Human Rights in Russia week-ending 17 June 2022 -with Nikolai Kavkazsky

EPISODE · Jun 21, 2022 · 38 MIN

Human Rights in Russia week-ending 17 June 2022 -with Nikolai Kavkazsky

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<span style="color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext">Our guest on the podcast this week&nbsp;is Nikolai Kavkazsky. Nikolai Yurievich Kavkazsy is a Russian civil society activist, human rights defender and opposition politician. He is one of the leading Yabloko activists in Moscow. Nikolai Kavkazsky was a defendant in the Bolotnoe case. Politically, he defines himself as a left-wing social democrat, an internationalist, a supporter of LGBT rights and of feminism. He is an advocate of juvenile justice and a humane drug policy. <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; letter-spacing:.3pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">This podcast is in Russian. You can also listen to the podcast on our&nbsp;website,&nbsp;<span style="color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext">SoundCloud,&nbsp;Spotify,&nbsp;iTunes,&nbsp;Google Podcasts,&nbsp;<span style="color:black;mso-color-alt: windowtext">Anchor&nbsp;and&nbsp;<span style="color:black;mso-color-alt: windowtext">YouTube.&nbsp;<span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;; letter-spacing:.3pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext">The recording was made on 18 June 2022. <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">The questions we ask Nikolai Kavkazsky include:<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Which word best describes you – civil society activist, human rights activist or politician?<span style="font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">You studied law at the Institute of World Economy and Informatization. At what point did you realize you wanted to be a civil society activist and a politician?<span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">You became a member of the Yabloko party in 2007 and are one of the party’s leading activists in Moscow. Why did you choose Yabloko as your party?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Why are political parties weak in Russia?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">You took part in the Bolotnaya Square protest in 2012, after which you were charged with ‘participation in mass riots’ (under Article 212(2) of the Russian Criminal Code) and held on remand for almost a year and a half. Amnesty International recognized you as a prisoner of conscience, along with several other individuals involved in the Bolotnaya case. In December 2013, you were amnestied and the criminal case was dropped. How did all this happen?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">What were the conditions in pre-trial detention centre?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">You were an associate of the late Andrei Babushkin, who headed the Committee for Civil Rights. What is the work of this organization? And what kind of person was Andrei Babushkin?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">You support LGBT rights in Russia. Why is the country so intolerant of LGBT people?<span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">On 24 February 2022 you were detained for taking part in an anti-war protest. The next day you were jaled for six days. What is the situation regarding anti-war protests in Russia?<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">·&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">How do you see the future of the country and, in particular, the future of human rights?<span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif; mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;letter-spacing:.3pt;mso-fareast-language: EN-GB">&nbsp; <span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Sergei Nikitin&nbsp;writes on&nbsp;Facebook:&nbsp;“Everything, absolutely everything, must be politicized. Including the question of installing benches at the entrance to an apartment building and protesting against plans to build in housing courtyards.” That’s what Simon Cosgrove and I were told by Nikolai Kavkazsky in a conversation we had with him last week. I’ve known Nikolai since the infamous Bolotnaya trial in Moscow. He is first and foremost a politician, a political activist. We also remember his active participation in human rights organizations, including Andrei Babushkin’s Committee for Civil Rights. It was an interesting conversation in which Nikolay Kavkazsky bravely states that he wants to change politics as they now are in Russia; he wants to change society so that it is more just, more free, and integrates all oppressed social groups.

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