It's the Democracy, Stupid | Jan. 31, 2026

On this week's show:– George Packer, staff writer at The Atlantic and author; his latest piece for The Atlantic is “What Should Americans Do Now?” and his latest book is “The Emergency: A Novel”– James Santelle, former United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Wisconsin (2010 to 2015), and a 30-year veteran of the Department of Justice– Steve Held, co-publisher of Unraveled Press– Betsy Hodges, former mayor of Minneapolis (2014-2018) and member of the Minneapolis City Council (2006-2014) Catch “It’s the Democracy, Stupid” Saturdays from 1:00 to 4:00 p.m. Central on WCPT (heartlandsignal.com/programs/edwin).   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.