Polly Young-Eisendrath: Why Conflict is Necessary

EPISODE · Jun 2, 2025 · 50 MIN

Polly Young-Eisendrath: Why Conflict is Necessary

from The Meaningful Life with Andrew G. Marshall · host Andrew G. Marshall

Most of us dislike or even fear conflict with loved ones. Without it, however, you won't achieve sustained intimacy with your partner.  This week, Andrew talks to writer, psychologist and Jungian analyst Polly Young-Eisendrath, the author of Love Between Equals: Relationship as a Spiritual Path. They explore the challenges and possibilities of building partnerships based on respect, freedom and real dialogue.  Andrew and Polly discuss: What “real dialogue” means—and how to practice mindful curiosity with your partner. How and why to stop avoiding conflict with your partner. Projective identification in relationships.  What to do if you’re feeling defeated or distant in your relationship.  Polly Young-Eisendrath, Ph.D., is the founder of the Center for Real Dialogue in Vermont and the author of 19 books. Her work combines psychoanalytic thinking, mindfulness, and Buddhism to illuminate the inner work required to love with both strength and humility. She is also the host of the popular podcasts Enemies: From War to Wisdom and Waking Up is Not Enough: Flourishing in the Human Space. If You’re Looking for More… You can subscribe to The Meaningful Life (via Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Google Podcasts) and hear a bonus mini-episode every week. Or you can join our Supporters Club on Patreon to also access exclusive behind-the-scenes content, fan requests and the chance to ask Andrew your own questions. Membership starts at just £4.50: Join here This week, supporters will hear: ⭐ The Benefits of a Conversation Between the Spiritual and Psychological ⭐ Three Things Polly Young-Eisendrath Knows to Be True ⭐️AND access to all our previous bonus content—a rich archive of insight and inspiration Follow Up Attend Andrew's new men's retreat, Reconnect With Yourself, this autumn in the Brandenberg countryside near Berlin: Learn more here Read Polly Young-Eisendrath’s book Love Between Equals: Relationship as a Spiritual Path  Visit Polly Young-Eisendrath’s website  Listen to Polly Young-Eisendrath’s podcasts: ENEMIES: From War to Wisdom  Waking Up is Not Enough: Flourishing in the Human Space  Follow Polly Young-Eisendrath on Facebook, Instagram and X/Twitter. Get Andrew’s free guide to difficult conversations with your partner: How to Tell Your Partner Difficult Things Take a look at Andrew’s new online relationship course: My Best Relationship Tools Join our Supporters Club to access exclusive behind-the-scenes content, fan requests and the chance to ask Andrew your own questions. Membership starts at just £4.50: patreon.com/andrewgmarshall  Andrew offers regular advice on love, marriage and finding meaning in your life via his social channels. Follow him on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube @andrewgmarshall

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