Talking Dateline: The Phantom

Lester Holt sits down with Josh Mankiewicz to talk about his latest episode, “The Phantom.” In the fall of 2023, Colorado mother Kristil Krug was found murdered after she was stalked for months. Investigators initially believed her stalker and potential killer was her high school ex-boyfriend. But they soon realized they’d been led astray, and the killer was in front of them all along: Kristil’s husband, Daniel Krug. Lester and Josh discuss how Kristil helped solve her own murder through meticulous logging and how police finally zeroed in on Dan. Later, Josh shares a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview with Kristil’s cousin, who’s now an anti-stalking advocate. Then, Josh and Lester answer your questions from social media. Listen to the full episode of “The Phantom” on Apple: https://apple.co/4mGwFYA Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1aD1jMdHTYYbM6iywq62sU

Episode 251001 of the Dateline NBC podcast, hosted by NBC News, titled "Talking Dateline: The Phantom" was published on October 1, 2025 and runs 21 minutes.

October 1, 2025 ·21m · Dateline NBC

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Lester Holt sits down with Josh Mankiewicz to talk about his latest episode, “The Phantom.” In the fall of 2023, Colorado mother Kristil Krug was found murdered after she was stalked for months. Investigators initially believed her stalker and potential killer was her high school ex-boyfriend. But they soon realized they’d been led astray, and the killer was in front of them all along: Kristil’s husband, Daniel Krug. Lester and Josh discuss how Kristil helped solve her own murder through meticulous logging and how police finally zeroed in on Dan. Later, Josh shares a podcast-exclusive clip from his interview with Kristil’s cousin, who’s now an anti-stalking advocate. Then, Josh and Lester answer your questions from social media. Listen to the full episode of “The Phantom” on Apple: https://apple.co/4mGwFYA Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1aD1jMdHTYYbM6iywq62sU

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