The Proud Pragmatist: Why Design Quality is Negotiable with Matthias Schreck

EPISODE · Apr 20, 2026 · 35 MIN

The Proud Pragmatist: Why Design Quality is Negotiable with Matthias Schreck

from Behind the Teams · host Nicole How

In this episode of Behind the Teams, host Nicole How sits down with Matthias Schreck, Head of Design at WiseTech Global. With a career spanning nearly two decades, including nine formative years at Atlassian, Matty shares his philosophy as a "proud pragmatist". We dive into why the best design leaders are willing to negotiate on "gold standards" to ensure the ultimate success of the product.Key Takeaways:The Pragmatic Design Leader: Why sticking strictly to a process can be a trap and how to gain the confidence to "go right" when the process says "go left"Hiring for Intellectual Horsepower: Why Matty prioritises a designer's raw ability to solve high-complexity problems over their ability to simply follow the Double DiamondThe "System" Trap: Why implementing design systems or rigid processes too early can stifle innovation and create blind spots.AI and Future Workflows: How the rapid evolution of AI requires us to stay in an "era of experimentation" rather than rushing to build new guardrails.

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