Titles, tenure, and paths don't matter

In this episode, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about why résumés, job titles, and career timelines take a back seat to what really matters when hiring — your actual work. They share how real-world examples cut through the noise, and open doors for people who may not have a traditional path.Key Takeaways:00:00 – Episode highlights00:10 – Why final hiring decisions come down to a candidate’s actual work03:50 – The 37Better redesign project07:27 – How real project work reduces the guesswork of hiring14:29 – Why creating work outside your portfolio shows your range and creativity20:02 – Hiring when it hurtsLinks and Resources:“Years of Evidence” from Jason Fried’s HEY WorldThe 37Better Project (archived)Record a video question for the podcastBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X