34 Circe Salon -- Make Matriarchy Great Again -- Disrupting History

Kimberly Rockwell, Dawn "Sam" Alden, and Lauren Torres talk about what it feels to walk through life as a woman in a large body, what feedback women receive about their bodies, and how the current emphasis on thin bodies to the exclusion of everything else can destroy us both from within and without. What messages did we absorb from our parents about what size was optimum for women? Why do we still believe the "calories in, calories out" message, despite it being just plain bad science? Why don't we understand more about what really affects our body size? And why does it freaking matter anyway???

Hello listeners! I hope you have had a chance to check out our interview with Chelsea Gardner and Melissa Funke of Peopling the Past, which aired earlier this season.  As a follow up, they have generously allowed us to do a Podcast Takeover of one of their episodes!  We here at 34 Circe are big fans of Wonder Woman, so although it’s not a typical episode for them, we are sharing the one in which they discuss Wonder Woman and other classics in comics with Dr. Natalie Swain.  We hope you enjoy, and check out the rest of their episodes at peoplingthepast.com

In modern times divination is often seen as superstitious tools used primarily to predict the future. However, since ancient times our ancestors used divination as essential meaning making tools, allowing us to connect with core archetypes in order to see our personal and cultural lives in deeper ways.  Join Lauren Torres and Anu Dudley author of The Goddess Casts the Runes, as we discuss the evidence for the matriarchal origins of the Elder Futhark Runes, their meaning when a patriarchal overlay is removed, and why connecting with them can offer a powerful recovery of ancient ways of knowing.Support the podcast: lovemmga.com

While researching Robert Graves, Sean Marlon Newcombe reached out to Dr. Anett K. Jessop, who introduced us to Laura Riding Jackson, a poet, linguist, revolutionary thinker and sometime lover of Robert Graves. It could be argued she was the inspiration for a lot of Graves work, including the idea of reclaiming myth from the patriarchal lens. A fascinating, uncompromising and multi-talented woman, we just scratch the surface of her legacy in this interview! With Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden.

Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden sit down with Professor Carolyne Larrington to get back to basics in discussing the Norse pantheon of Goddesses. Just how much information was in the original source material? And how much of even that was through the lens of those who were decrying their subjects? Join us to find out!

Sean Marlon Newcombe, Dawn "Sam" Alden and Kimberly Rockwell are playing Siskel and Ebert again, this time with movies featuring female spies. Espionage apparently looks different in fishnets.

Dawn "Sam" Alden interviews Melissa Funke and Chelsea Gardner of the Peopling the Past project - a website, a podcast, and so much more. In this meta episode, they talk about talking about the ancient world, how archeology actually works, and why focusing on the everyday in antiquity is so important to getting the complete picture.

In this episode we sit down with Walter Penrose, PhD, associate professor of history at San Diego State University. Dr. Penrose specializes in the History of Gender and Sexuality in Ancient Greek, Hellenistic, and South Asian contexts. We talk with him about the historical views of the Amazons, particularly in the non-Western world. Female bodyguards were employed by the Ancient Indians and Persians and many of these women came from the Black Sea region-- the same region where the Greeks identified the presence of Amazons.  We discuss the Indian concept of "Stri Rajya" or "The Kingdom of Women"  which the Ancient Indians located to the west of them, towards the Eurasian Steppe and Caspian Sea-- in the same neighborhood as the Black Sea.  Lastly, we also explore the stories of Hellenistic warrior queens and their connection to the warlike tribes from the same region as the female bodyguards and The Kingdom of Women: the Thracians, Scythians and Sauromatians. Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.

Kimberly Rockwell, Dawn "Sam" Alden and Lauren Torres talk about the music that shaped their youth. The songs we scream-sang, and those that comforted us when we were heartbroken - did we ever really listen to the lyrics? Music has power to teach, and words set to music stick in our heads. What were we absorbing when we were young, what were we being taught by the music on the radio?

Kim Gould is a mentor and coach who teaches people to access their own unique way to create meaningful change in their lives through astrology and the human design system. Join us as we discuss how Ms. Gould reframes the astrological viewpoint to focus on the myths of women and the space objects, like asteroids, named after them.Lauren Torres and Sean Marlon Newcombe co-host.

Join us as we interview Dr. Sandra Glahn, professor at the Dallas Theological Seminary, about her wonderful book, Nobody's Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament.  Nobody's Mother is a scholarly re-examination of the cult of Artemis of Ephesus and the cultural world surrounding early Christianity—especially the world behind 1 Timothy 2, a New Testament passage long used to restrict women’s leadership. Were the Apostle Paul's writings in 1 Timothy 2 a response to the nature and power of the cult of Artemis?  Tune in as we explore this fascinating topic.Sean Marlon Newcombe hosts.

In today’s episode in the Founding Mother’s series, we explore two influential women from the past: Lilian Gilbreth, an American psychologist, industrial, consultant and educator who was once described as “a genius in the art of living," and Edith Clark, an electrical engineer who is credited with laying the foundation for the smart grid. Both women were born in the late 1800s, but both of them made impacts in their fields that affect our lives to this day.Join Lauren Torres and Kimberly Rockwell as they discuss the legacies (sometimes controversial!) of these two fascinating women.

"Karen"-- a term that became ubiquitous in 2020.  It was used as a verbal cudgel to upbraid a certain type of woman: white and very outspoken.Some say the term had its origin as a response to racism; others say it was the product of misogyny. Either way, the word "Karen" became a weapon of derision, mockery and humiliation.  It was a way, quite simply, to silence a group of women. Join us as we do a deep-dive into the history and facts surrounding this term and in our quest to uncover the truth of its purpose. Also, please, feel free to share with us your thoughts and experiences with the word at [email protected]

"Rob from the rich, give to the poor!"  This is the famous rallying cry of Robin Hood.  But is he the only legendary figure to do so? And were there any female Robin Hoods in history?  Well, ask no more!  Join Dawn "Sam" Alden as she introduces us to the stories of various women throughout history who have broken the law to break bread for the hungry.Sean Marlon Newcombe co-hosts.

We're back!  We hope you've all had a wonderful summer break!  Now it's time to Make Matriarchy Great Again. :-) Join us for our preview of our sixth season. We'll give you a taste of what's upcoming as well as take a quick look back at the last five fantastic years.  We can't wait to get things going again!

Our final episode of the season is an encore presentation, in memoriam, of the first episode of the season-- Sally Roesch Wagner and the Suffragists-Native American connection.  Sally Roesch Wagner passed on June 11 at the age of 82.  She was an historian of women's history and the Women's Suffrage Movement, an author and an educator. She was the founding director of the Matilda Joslyn Gage Foundation and Social Justice Dialogue Center which honored the accomplishments of pioneering suffragist, Matilda Joslyn Gage.*****In this episode: The Iroquois, alternatively referred to by the endonym Haudenosaunee, are a confederacy of Native Americans and First Nations peoples in northeast North America.  Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Matilda Joslyn Gage, and Lucretia Mott had formed friendships with Haudenosaunee women that enabled them to see the real possibility of creating a very different structure for their American culture, a matriarchal one, like the one that their Haudenosaunee sisters had experienced for generations. We talk to Sally Roesch Wagner about this amazing story and how she discovered this overlooked pieced of American feminist herstory.Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.

In the Northern Hemisphere, this is the time of year when cultures celebrate the return of light and warmth after the long, cold nights of winter.  In many places, this return of bright days and nature's bounty has been represented by the divine feminine.  So, let us celebrate the Goddesses of Summer!  Join Dawn "Sam" Alden as she regales us with their stories. Happy summer everyone!Sean Marlon Newcombe co-hosts.

In another installment of our continuing series called, "The War Against The Goddess," we welcome Max Dashu once again as she joins us to discuss the cults of Magna Mater (Cybele) and the Great Mother Goddesses in the Ancient World and the many attempts to destroy them from Ancient Rome through early Christianity. Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.

The sine qua non of this podcast: Matriarchy.  What is it and why is it desirable.  Dawn "Sam" Alden and Sean Marlon Newcombe have an open and frank discussion on the topic of "matriarchy."  A defining episode for this series. 

Marvelously acted, written and director, the film Tár was a critical darling.  But this will not be a film review, but rather an appraisal of how Hollywood handles strong women in leading roles.  We will examine the movie from different perspectives--feminist, cultural, personal-- and give our own take on what this kind of movie says about how strong women are handled in popular entertainment. Sean Marlon Newcombe, Lauren Torres and Kimberly Rockwell host.

Kimberly Rockwell and Dawn "Sam" Alden discuss the Female Gaze - is there such a thing? How does a film camera typically "look" at a woman vs how it "looks" at a man? We've been discussing movies a lot this season, so we thought we'd zoom out (pun intended) and think about how filmmaking controls the way we perceive characters in the movies we watch.

Right now, the world needs goddesses, so there's no better time to give an encore presentation of our episode on the Titanides with Max Dashu! Tune in and enjoy!*****It is our pleasure, once again, to present a fascinating conversation with Max Dashu!Max Dashu has championed the various lost histories of women and championed female-centric civilizations for decades. Max Dashu founded the Suppressed Histories Archives in January of 1970 to research and document women's history on a global scale.In today's episode, we discuss chapter one of Max's new book Women In Greek Mythography.  Focused on the Titanides, the pre-Olympian goddesses, chapter one explores their original stories and the later patriarchal revisions.  Female-centric, the mythology of the Titanides explained how the universe came into being, with goddesses central to that understanding.Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.*****Support the MMGA podcast on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/34Circe

Join us for a wonderful, foundational episode: we're making matriarchy great again! Laura Hirch is a filmmaker, writer, artist and a scholar of matriarchal studies.  Her six-part documentary, From The Goddess, explores the concept of the Great Goddess and how matriarchal societies, centered around Goddess worship, thrived in peaceful coexistence for millennia until the emergence of patriarchy 5,000 years ago.  We discuss her series and other aspects of matriarchal herstory along with our own matriarchal scholar and inspiration, Vicki Noble.  Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.The full series is available to watch on Vimeo here:  https://vimeo.com/ondemand/fromthegoddessdocuseriesSupport the MMGA podcast on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/34Circe

The Thracians - Once the most numerous people of Europe, but, now, lost amidst the fog of history.They were known as formidable and warlike-- and some even said that they were the people who spawned the Amazons.  (Amazon queen Penthesilea was thought to be Thracian by the ancients.)It's this potential Amazonian connection lead us to the fascinating goddesses in their pantheon.Join Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden as they talk about what is known about the goddesses of this almost forgotten but once influential people - the Thracians.Support the MMGA podcast on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/34Circe

Co-hosts Dawn "Sam" Alden and Kimberly Rockwell discuss the works of author Kate Quinn and the women characters in her WW2 novels. Most based on actual women, these stories of spies, pilots, investigators, and drunks with dark secrets are compelling and fun reads. Join the discussion, and leave a comment if you have read these novels as well!Support the MMGA podcast on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/34Circe

The last in our series, this might actually be what a true Female Revenge Film looks like!  Dawn “Sam” Alden and Kimberly Rockwell talk about this brutal gem of a movie.  Content warning: because the film contains implied castration, implied pedophilia and the aftermath of the murder of a minor, we talk about these topics as they arise in the movie.  Skip this episode if that's outside your comfort zone.

Was Crete one of the latest Matriarchies to resist infiltration and overthrow by the waves of Indo-European invasion? What evidence is hidden in plain sight to support the presence of Matriarchy on the island?  Joan Cichon talks about her book “Matriarchy in Bronze Age Crete” which she has generously made available to all online.  Joining the discussion are Vicki Noble, Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn Sam Alden.Buy or download Joan's book here: https://www.archaeopress.com/Archaeopress/Products/9781803270449Support the podcast here:  https://www.patreon.com/34Circe

The gang's all here and we're ready to discuss the sexism and misogyny imbedded in many words in our language and we're using the book Wordslut by Amanda Montell as our starting point.Amanda Montell, reporter and feminist linguist, deconstructs language—from insults, cursing, gossip, and catcalling to grammar and pronunciation patterns—to reveal the ways it has been used for centuries to keep women and other marginalized genders from power. Dawn "Sam" Alden, Sean Marlon Newcombe, Lauren Torres and Kimberly Rockwell take a deep dive into Ms. Montell's language deconstruction and bring in some language analysis of their own.What's in a name? A lot, apparently! 

The Motherpeace Round Tarot deck is a co-creation of Karen Vogel and Vicki Noble. Created in 1978, within a year of being given their first tarot deck, Motherpeace represents a vision of Goddess energy and a transmission of ancient wisdom. The Motherpeace deck is based on the traditional tarot system and uses ancient images from goddess-centered cultures throughout the world.  The deck is world renown and very popular.Lauren Torres interviews Make Matriarchy Great Again founding member Vicki Noble and her co-creator Karen Vogel about the history and significance of the Motherpeace deck.

It’s the 20th Anniversary of an amazing documentary, Double Dare. We speak with the director and one of the stars, and speak fondly of the other star, lost to us this year.  Or, the one in which Zoë muses, Dawn rants, and Amanda puts things perfectly. (And all remember Jeannie fondly.)

Dr Felicitas D. Goodman was an anthropologist who made some ground breaking discoveries in her field. She discovered and verified that holding specific postures altered states of consciousness and that these postures were represented on ancient representations in art and pottery. Join Lauren Torres and Dawn "Sam" Alden as they discuss this amazing woman's legacy with Laura Lee.Laura Lee and her husband Paul are the Co-Directors of the Cuyamungue Institute, a non-profit educational research organization, a worldwide headquarters in Santa Fe, New Mexico. They are leading authorities on the practice of Ecstatic Trance Postures and the work of the late anthropologist Felicitas D Goodman. 

Dr. Carla Ionescu joins us again, this time to talk about Spartan women!  The women of Sparta were unique in the Ancient Greek world for the level of freedom and power that they enjoyed.  Renown for their athletic skill and beauty, they were also reviled by some Greek writers for their learning, economic wealth and open sexuality.Drawing on the groundbreaking work of Dr. Sarah Pomeroy, Dr. Ionescu joins Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden to discuss these amazing women. 

A frank discussion about abortion. 

We're back for the 2024-2025 season!  And what better way to begin than to discuss the history of a sisterhood between the Haudenosaunee women and the American suffragists.  Join us as we interview Sally Roesch Wagner, noted feminist pioneer, activist and author as we discuss her book, Sisters In Spirit.The Iroquois, alternatively referred to by the endonym Haudenosaunee, are a confederacy of Native Americans and First Nations peoples in northeast North America.  Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Matilda Joslyn Gage, and Lucretia Mott had formed friendships with Haudenosaunee women that enabled them to see the real possibility of creating a very different structure for their American culture, a matriarchal one, like the one that their Haudenosaunee sisters had experienced for generations. We talk to Sally Roesch Wagner about this amazing story and how she discovered this overlooked pieced of American feminist herstory.Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.

A belated season-end thank you from the 34 Circe Salon to all of our listeners!  We concluded the 2023-2024 season with our Medusa episode and we'll be back again in October for the 2024-2025 season.  We're already recording, so get ready for discussions of all of your favorite topics from warrior women and goddesses to stuntwomen and Bad Marthas.  Thank you to all of you around the world who have supported us! You'll hear from us in a few weeks as we all Make Matriarchy Great Again!

In this episode, we delve into the matriarchal reinterpretation of the Medusa myth, contrasting it with the traditional patriarchal narrative of Ancient Greece. Starr Goode, Miriam Robbins Dexter and Joan Marler each bring their unique insights and years of scholarship to our understanding of this famous legend.Starr Goode is a noted writer and teacher as well as a scholar of matriarchal history with a particular emphasis on the Sheela na gig symbols.Miriam Robbins Dexter, Ph.D., holds a B.A. in Classics and a Ph.D. in Indo-European Studies (comparative linguistics, archaeology and mythology), from the University of California, Los Angeles. Joan Marler is the Founder and Executive Director of the Institute of Archaeomythology.  She worked closely with Marija Gimbutas as her personal editor from 1987-1994 and lectures internationally on Prof. Gimbutas’ life and work.  We will explore how Medusa's image as a monstrous figure has been transformed into a symbol of female empowerment and resistance. Drawing from feminist theory and historical analysis, we discuss the evolution of her story from a cautionary tale of male dominance to a rallying cry for women's autonomy and strength. Join us as we unravel the layers of Medusa's legacy and its significance in modern feminist discourse.Dawn "Sam" Alden and Sean Marlon Newcombe co-host.

Join Lauren Torres and Dawn "Sam' Alden as they welcome author Molly Remer and discuss (and praise) the Goddess Persephone. Goddess of spring and Queen of the Underworld, the myths of Persephone are familiar in the Western World.  In this episode, as always, we examine this goddess using a matriarchal rather than patriarchal lens. We also view Persephone from a more personal standpoint, with the work of Ms. Remer as a guide.In her book, Walking with Persephone, Ms. Remer weaves together personal insights and reflections with experiences in practical priestessing, family life, and explorations of the natural world and how the tales of Persephone have helped her. Come along with us and praise another goddess!

Just a brief message to our sponsors from the newest members of the 34 Circe Make Matriarchy Great Again family, Lauren Torres and Kimberly Rockwell.  Thank you all for your support and we look forward to bringing you more exciting matriarchal content in the coming seasons!

Taking care of new mothers by restoring their health through rest, bodywork, and nourishing foods can be found in every society, most in the not so distant past.  Why then does it become all about the new baby that has arrived?  Why don't we think of offering care and support to the parents?  New mothers are born into a new role and ceremonies like Closing the Bones help her transition into a new identity while also restoring her body.  Join us as we talk with Dr Sophie Messager - experienced perinatal educator, healer, retired doula and former research scientist about the four common (and global) elements of postnatal recovery.  Sophie's commitment and passion to educate birth professionals and families on the importance of the postnatal care of mothers has transformed the life of many women, laying the ground for healthy women and healthy families. Author of the book "Why Postnatal Recovery Matters." you can find Sophie at sophiemessager.com, and on Instagram @sophie_messager.

Join Dawn "Sam" Alden and Kimberly Rockwell as they discuss the female revenge film Peppermint (2018).  Starring Jennifer Garner, Peppermint tells the story of woman whose happy life is destroyed when a drug cartel kills her husband and daughter. The event turns her into a vigilante and she will not be satisfied until she has her revenge.Our hosts discuss not only the creative quality of the film, but also what it says about our culture's view of the intersection of gender, ethnicity and power.

We're back with the long-awaited follow-up discussion to our foundational episode on Amazons and Matriarchy.  In Part I, we discussed the movements of the Old Europe matriarchies in the third millennium B.C., as well as Vicki's concept of the "Double-Goddess," its significance for matriarchy and it's connection with the Amazons. In this episode we pick up in the second millennium B.C., and discuss the final eras of the matriarchies of Old Europe and the rise and end of what could be called the "resistance movement" of bands of warrior women called "Amazons."  Vicki Noble, once again, leads the way and shares her knowledge of Amazons and the Matriarchal world from which they'd sprung.  Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden host.

Has it been four years already? Why, yes, it has! Join us as we celebrate our fourth anniversary and take a trip down memory lane.  Favorite episodes and stories from Dawn, Sean, Laruen and Kimberly... and a VERY BIG thanks to all of our listeners!

They are the daring action women that we all adore, but what is it really like to be a stuntwoman? Join us for a really fun discussion with four Hollywood stuntwomen: Katie Rowe is the head of the Hollywood Stuntwomen's Association and an amazing stuntwoman of more than two decades.  Angela Meryl is also legendary stuntwoman who has doubled such luminaries as Beyonce and Viveca Fox.  Indus Alelia a stuntwoman who has worked on several independent movies and is renown for her fire stunts.  Devavani Conroy is a stuntwoman and actress who is fairly new on her stuntwoman journey and already making a name for herself.  All four women represent the best of the stuntwoman community.Join us as we celebrate these female action heroes!Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.

In preparation for our upcoming part 2 episode, we bring you the uncut version of part 1 of Vicki Noble's discussion of the matriarchal origins of the women called "Amazons."  This was the first episode that we recorded for our "Make Matriarchy Great Again" podcast and you can tell as we're still introducing ourselves to all of you. :-)Here we go... The first installment in our series on the birth of the historical women called "Amazons." Who were their ancestors? Where did they come from? We talk about the destruction of the Old Europe matriarchy by the warrior men from the Eurasian steppes and how it was the spark that produced the matriarchal resistance movement of the Amazons. The concept of an "Amazon" begins to develop as the millennia pass and the descendants of the Old Europe matriarchies are forced to take up arms to protect their people and culture. Vicki Noble leads the way and shares her extensive knowledge of the era. Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden host.

Join us for the first episode in our Founding Mother Series! Viola Spolin developed a complete system of education which she called Theater Games and her methods are the roots of contemporary improv.  While the power of Viola's system is widely recognized in the theater education community, her fundamental contribution to improvisation is just beginning to get full recognition. Spolin's non-authoritarian methods are about direct personal expression and are used in diverse fields to foster creativity, empathy, and self-knowledge.Our Hosts Lauren Torres and Dawn "Sam" Alden talk with Aretha Sills (Viola's grandaughter) about Spolin's fascinating history. We also discuss a powerful second Founding Mother: Neva Boyd.  Aretha was featured on the PBS Documentary about Viola Spolin Inventing Improv, to view visit: https://www.pbs.org/video/inventing-improv-fjrunv/ To learn more about Viola Spolin, find her books, or take workshops in her empowering methods visit: https://www.violaspolin.org/Photo courtesy of the Estate of Viola Spolin, www.violaspolin.org. All rights reserved.

We welcome back Professor Walter Penrose, specialist in gender and sexuality in the Ancient World, to discuss everyone's favorite Amazon: Wonder Woman!Fans had demanded a Wonder Woman movie for decades, so when the movie reached theaters in 2017, the reactions were huge. With Professor Penrose, Dawn and Sean look back on that moment, as well as the comic book genesis and the life of the family who created her. (With a nod, of course, to the legends of the Amazons that we so love.)

It's no secret that Artemis is beloved at the 34 Circe Salon Make Matriarchy Great Again podcast, so this episode is a match made in heaven for us.... because it's all about Artemis!Our guest is Dr. Carla Ionescu who is one of the leading experts in the worship and ritual of Artemis. In the summers she scavenges new locations and cities world wide, digging through the remains of grave sites, ruins, and abandoned buildings, trying to uncover the long lost mystery that is Artemis, The Great Mother.We discuss Artemis in her many incarnations and in her many locations.Arise, Amazons, and praise Artemis!Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.

People speak of virginity as if it’s a thing. It’s not. It’s not a thing. Kimberly and Dawn talk about the science and the myth of virginity, and why it can be useful, but mostly isn’t.

It is our pleasure, once again, to present a fascinating conversation with Max Dashu!Max Dashu has championed the various lost histories of women and championed female-centric civilizations for decades. Max Dashu founded the Suppressed Histories Archives in January of 1970 to research and document women's history on a global scale.In today's episode, we discuss chapter one of Max's new book Women In Greek Mythography.  Focused on the Titanides, the pre-Olympian goddesses, chapter one explores their original stories and the later patriarchal revisions.  Female-centric, the mythology of the Titanides explained how the universe came into being, with goddesses central to that understanding.Sean Marlon Newcombe and Dawn "Sam" Alden co-host.

Join new Make Matriarchy Great Again host Lauren Torres as she talks with Lucy Pearce, the founder of Womancraft Publishing. Lucy is a multi-faceted creative whose work spans the expressive arts, exploring the lost archetypes of the feminine and symbols of the soul. She is the author of multiple life-changing non-fiction books, including Nautilus Award silver winners Medicine Woman, Burning Woman, and Creatrix: she who makes. Lucy founded Womancraft Publishing, publishing paradigm-shifting books by women for women, in 2014. Listen in as we celebrate the transformative power of the stories of women by women!