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4 THE LOVE OF POG
by 4 THE LOVE OF POG
4 THE LOVE OF POG is Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stuart - London-based friends for more than 20 years. Now joined by Steve, they watch and talk about cycling, but also about food, footie, family life, and anything else that takes their fancy. But mostly, about cycling.
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4 the love of plod
After celebrating Sebastian Sawe's incredible 1.59.30 world record at the London Marathon with their own record for a 4TLOP episode intro, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about Liège-Bastogne-Liège and the other Ardennes Classics. They also talk about mountain biking and cycling infrastructure in South Korea. There's the usual 'Thought for Tadej'. And they all reveal just how many used inner tubes they have in their sheds.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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Be still my beating Aert - WOWt!
After passing brief judgement on the Hungarian election result, and in what many might consider a lacklustre performance [sorry], Matthew, Lawrence, Andy, and Steve talk mostly about Wout van Aert's win in the sensational 2026 edition of Paris-Roubaix. They also bang on a bit about some other races and riders too, including Pog at Flanders, obvs. There's yet another update on the 'cycle route at the end of Matthew's road' and he reels off yet more alternative race names. Plus, Andy loses his way a bit talking about Albert Bridge.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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Pog v Pidders at Milan Sanremo
After going on a bit about whether or not Donald Trump is Bored of Peace, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about the amazing battle between Pog and Pidders at Milan Sanremo. There's yet another update on the 'cycle route at the end of Matthew's road'. 'Thought for Tadej' is about whether he will return to MSR for 2027. It's the turn of Team Polti Visit Malta to get the Kit Crit/Crush treatment. And in a shocking revelation, Lawrence outs himself as the anti-social cyclist.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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The Omelette
After going on a bit about Nottingham Forest's relegation battle, Matthew, Lawrence, and Andy talk mostly about some of the races in professional cycling's 'opening weekend'. They also talk about 'London's lost bikes', there's an update on the 'cycle route at the end of Matthew's road', and Andy reveals he has many (other) cycling friends. 'Thought for Tadej' is a look ahead to Strade Bianchi. It's the turn of Team Picnic PostNL to get the Kit Crit/Crush treatment, and Andy (him again) has exciting news about one of his bikes.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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Cyclocross at the Winter Olympics
After going on about how to improve the sport of curling, Matthew, Lawrence and Steve talk mostly about whether cyclocross should be included in the Winter Olympics. They also talk about British Cycling, the NHS and the Tour de France coming back to the UK in 2027, and 'cycling on TV' being moved yet again. 'Thought for Tadej' is all about Pog's new haircut and his 'crypto-connection'. It's the turn of Red Bull Bora Hansgrohe to get the Kit Crit/Crush treatment, and Steve confesses his Strava segment obsession.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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Simon Yates's Wine Lodge
After banging on about what they did at Christmas and New Year (Brazil, broken bones, and botched flights), Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about Simon Yates' sudden (and surprise?) retirement from professional cycling, Sustrans' relaunch as the Wheel, Walk Cycling Trust, and Oscar Onley's big bucks move to INEOS. And returning after a long lay-off, it's the turn of INEOS in Kit Crit/Crush.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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Meeting Matt Stephens!
When they eventually stop reminiscing about 1970s and '80s TV shows and bikes, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about Lawrence's 'Brief Encounter' moment with cycling's Matt Stephens! They also talk about the 'return(?) of Ineos' and the TTT changes for next year's Tour de France. And this episode's 'Thought for Tadej' is all about Pog's 2026 race programme.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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Strava vs Garmin
For this celebratory 50th episode, the podcast is as rambling and random as ever. When they eventually get going, Matthew, Lawrence, Steve, and Andy talk mostly about the Strava vs Garmin 'controversy'. They also talk about hill climbing: Ned Boulting's 'Mur de Ned'; Pog being beaten by an amateur at the Pogi Challenge, and Steve's gold medal revelation! 'Thought for Tadej' is all about Pog crushing all at Il Lombardia. They set themselves some World Track Championships 'homework'. And Andy tries to sell his bike, again. Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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The Worlds and The Euros 2025
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about Pog's dominance at both the World and European Championships. Away from the professional peloton they also talk policy - with Matthew giving an update on the eagerly anticipated 'cycling route at the end of his road'.Get in touchX @4theloveofpog
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Pro-Palestine Protest Prevents Pidcock's Proper Podium Pride
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, and Andy (he's back!) talk mostly about Tom Pidcock's brilliant performance at La Vuelta and the unconventional and endearing podium celebration that followed. They also chat about Pog's chances of winning a second rainbow jersey at the World Championships in Rwanda, and whinge about the lack of a senior women's GB team. Oh, in a cheeky twist, Andy tries to sell one of his bikes!Get in touchX @4theloveofpogBuy Andy's bike!
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Vuelta Skelter and the Tour of Great British Britain
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve take on far too many topics: the latest developments in La Vuelta, the first stage of the Tour of Britain, and Fred Wright's move to Q36.5. Plus, Lawrence fails again to deliver his Tour de France Femmes dispatch, there's a bit of Pog chat in the resurrected feature 'Though for Tadej', and Matthew both cheers and jeers about the stretch of the new Cycle Route 35 being built near his house.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Top Four Tour Thoughts
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about their top 4 (ish) thoughts about this year's Tour de France. At around 15 minutes, Lawrence's audio vanishes, so after that it gets a bit weird. Still, it just about hangs together. We think.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Tick Tock Tour Talk
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about time-trialing at this year’s Tour de France - with Steve sharing a surprising confession about his own time-trialing exploits! They also chat about Quinn Simmons’ unforgettable hair-do and Pog (so far) at the Tour. And they get a little bit critical about Lime Bike’s new ‘Respect the Red’ campaign, through which Steve reveals - in another startling confession - that he's probably still wanted by the City of London Police!Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Tour de France 2025 | Stages 1-3
In this episode, when they finally get going, Matthew, Lawrence, and Steve talk mostly about Stages 1-3 of this year's Tour de France, including yellow cards, crashes, the TV coverage, Pog (obvs), and Mathieu van der Poel's plane!Get in touchX @[email protected]
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The Brothers Spin | Brompton 'review' down the A2
The second episode of The Brothers Spin - a spin-off show from 4 THE LOVE OF POG - sees brothers Matthew and Lawrence continuing the cycling chat - this time while actually riding their bikes, or does it....?Matthew and Lawrence take a 'spin' down the A2 into Kent on a muggy Monday night for an 'Italian tune-up'. Matthew gets all confessional about his driving ban, Lawrence 'reviews' the Brompton, and they both ponder (a bit) on whatever happened to cycling couriers. Stick around to the end of the episode for news about comedy genius and cycling fan Chris Morris!
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Pog at the Dauphinoise
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, and (a warm welcome to) Steve discuss Pog's dominance in the Criterium de Dauphine (aka, 'The Dauphinoise'). They also talk about (frankly, quite fanciful) ideas for kit changes in the peloton, Dave Brailsford's rumoured return and - for only the second time ever - Mountain Biking! Oh, and Steve's chainsaw...Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Oh, Giro!
In this mercifully shortish episode, Matthew and Lawrence talk about Simon Yates’ improbable win in the Giro d’Italia and continue to moan about the cost of watching cycling on TV in the UK. Plus, Matthew shares new entries in his ever-growing list of alternative race names, while Lawrence continues his quest for bike number three, when deep down, he knows he should just buy a Brompton.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Low Traffic Neighbourhoods
In this episode, Matthew and Lawrence talk about a recent High Court ruling that found Lambeth Council’s implementation of an LTN in West Dulwich unlawful, after it failed to consider a comprehensive dossier from local residents outlining potential negative impacts. Oh, and a little bit about Pog's awesomeness in the Ardennes Classics, the Giro's Albanian adventure, 'renaming races', and a very important Brompton purchase!Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Pog v Poel at Paris-Roubaix
In this episode, Matthew and Lawrence talk about the battle between Pog and Pol at Paris-Roubaix. They also talk about some of the other races Pog has been winning, and nearly winning, since the last time they could be bothered to speak into microphones mostly about cycling, though Matthew hadn't sorted his out properly, so he sounds a bit crap.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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The Brothers Spin | Tour de France Grand Depart 2027 and Severance!
The first (and quite possibly the last) episode of The Brothers Spin, a spin-off from 4 THE LOVE OF POG, sees brothers Matthew and Lawrence continuing the cycling chat - this time while actually riding their bikes. In this episode - after arguing about the concept for the entire show - they talk mostly about the possibility of Britain hosting the Tour de France 2027 Grand Depart, and about the Apple TV show Severance, Season 2, Episode 7!
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Cyclocross World Championships 2025
In this episode, Matthew and Lawrence talk about Mathieu van der Poel's dominance in the Cyclocross World Championships and Tom Pidcock's flying start at Q36.5. And they have a right old moan about how it's going to become a lot more expensive to watch live cycling on TV in the UK.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Cyclocross British Championships 2025
In this special and mini episode of the podcast, Lawrence 'reports' from the Cyclocross British Championships 2025. He also eats some chips.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Pidders pedals off to Q36.5
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about Tom Pidcock's shock(ish) move from INEOS to Q36.5. They also chat about Remco getting 'doored', how e-bikes are more important than electric vehicles for decarbonisation, and what they want from 'Cycling Santa' this Christmas.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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So long Sir Cav
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Stu are joined by the 'one and only' Tom Whalley. After quite a few false starts due to technical issues, they eventually chat about Mark Cavendish bringing to an end his glittering cycling career, ITV losing the Tour de France UK TV rights, and whether or not they will cross the Channel for the Lille Stage in TDF 2025, Plus, Lawrence reviews Ned Boulting's latest one-man show.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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London 3 Day
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Stu discuss the London 3 Day track cycling event. But it's less about the actual cycling, and more about pale ale, 'principled conversations', and a hunt for vegetarian food.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Pog rules the World (Championships)
In this episode, Matthew and Lawrence talk mostly about Pog's incredible ride in the World Championships Road Race 2024. But also a little bit about frogs, salamanders and 1980s TV programmes.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Pidders at the Olympics!
In this episode, Matthew and Lawrence get very excited indeed about Tom Pidcock's astonishing ride in the Paris 2024 Olympic Mountain Bike race. Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Tour de France 2024 | Stages 1-9
After dissecting England's quarter final performance at Euro 2024, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu eventually talk about Stages 1-9 (but mainly Stage 9 on the gravel) of the Tour de France 2024: Pog in yellow, Girmay in Green, Cav's stage win record and an angry Remco. Team Visma | Lease a bike's jersey gets the Kit Crit treatment and they also lament missing out on yet more cycling events And at 16:35, Derek Gee has them in stitches.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Cycling and the manifestos
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about the lack of cycling references in any of the party manifestos for the UK General Election 2024. They also talk about the cycling documentary 'Chase the Sun', the knighthood for Mark Cavendish, Matthew's Bradley Wiggins story, and some of the recent racing (which they haven't really watched). And there's yet more controversy in AOB...Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Critical Mass London
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Stuart talk about the latest Critical Mass London bike ride. They also celebrate (and moan about) World Bicycle Day, 10 years of mini-Hollands in the UK and Pog's Giro d'Italia success. And in the latest of his post-hip-op Field Notes, Andy reveals he is back on his Brompton.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Pog sitting pretty in pink
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Stuart talk about Pog's performance so far at the Giro d'Italia. They also talk about Lawrence meeting the King (kind of) and get very animated and annoyed at the new UK cycling law. And in the latest of his post-hip-op Field Notes, Andy reveals he is back on a real bike at last.Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Diary of a ride | Lawrence's London to York
This special episode is a diary of a ride: Lawrence's London to York. Lawrence was alongside 19 others cycling the Gallery2Gallery Ride - 300 miles over 3 days - as part of the National Gallery's bicentenary celebrations. And at the same time raising money for the National Brain Appeal.Lawrence's story is not just about cycling, but also about getting lost, lorries, potholes, philosophical thoughts abut future challenges, and garden centres!Oh, and meeting someone who raced against Bradley Wiggins' Dad...Riding London to York for the National Brain AppealGet in touchX @[email protected]
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Liège-Bastogne-Liège 2024 | Pog Power
In this 1st Birthday episode of the podcast, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about Pog's powerful win at Liège-Bastogne-Liège. Andy provides some important Field Notes from Hammersmith. Lawrence reveals the latest news about his car (and microphone) repatriation from North Wales to South-East London. And about the finals preparations for his London to York charity ride.Riding London to York for the National Brain AppealGet in touchX @[email protected]
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Amstel Gold | 4 the love of Pid
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about the men's and women's Amstel Gold races. They also reflect on Paris Roubaix and the crashes at the Tour of the Basque Country. The latest developments in the Hammersmith Bridge saga are the subject of the Policy Parlour feature. Lawrence tells us about his upcoming London to York charity ride (link below). And Matthew 'reviews' and recommends 'End to End', a book by Paul Jones on the Lands End to John O'Groats record.Corrections Corner: Matthew talks about the Road Races Association, when he meant to say the Road Records Association.Riding London to York for the National Brain AppealGet in touchX @[email protected]
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Tour of Flanders | Majestic Mathieu capitalises on Koppenberg chaos
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about Mathieu van der Poel's win at the Tour of Flanders after the chaos on the Koppenberg. Lawrence submits some more Field Notes - this time from North Wales - about e-bike batteries and pot holes. But quite rightly, a good chunk of time is spent talking about Andy's very welcome news...Get in touchX @[email protected]
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Milan-Sanrem-o-m-g!
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about the epic race that was Milan-Sanremo and the many P's involved - Pidders, van der Poel, Pedersen, and of course the beloved Pog. A new feature makes its debut - Amsterdam Angle - with 'listener Steve' giving us his perspective on cycling in the Dutch capital. Team Visma Lease a Bike's TT helmets get the Kit Crit treatment. And Matthew shares his Brompton World Championships claim to fame.X @4theloveofpog
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Pog perfection at Strade Bianche
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about Pog's wonderful performance at Strade Bianche. And in a battle of the features - 'Policy Parlour and Bikes v Cars - they also talk about the UK government's plans to increase the power of e-bikes. Plus, they have a good old moan about the names of cycling teams. And Alpecin-Deceuninck's 'double denim' is the subject of the latest 'Kit Crit'. X @4theloveofpog
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Save Brixton Cycles
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about the plans to Save Brixton Cycles. They also talk about Hammersmith Bridge reopening for cycling, Remco's form in the recent races, and pose the all-important question: where's Pog? And Matthew tries his very best Chris Morris impression - twice.Save Brixton Cycles Crowdfunder
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Marvellous Mathieu at the World Cyclocross Champs
In this episode Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stuart talk about Mathieu van der Poel's crushing victory in the World Cyclocross Championships. There's an update on the trip to 'watch the Tour of Flanders', including the launch of a competition, with an amazing prize for a lucky listener! See below. And there's a partial conversation about the problems with the Cycle to Work scheme, cut short by some technical issues with the recording. Sorry. Tour of Flanders 'cushion competition' - post your answers at @4THELOVEOFPOG
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Bye-bye Dave Brailsford
In this episode Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stuart talk about Dave Brailsford's departure from INEOS and his somewhat bizarre decision to spend more time with Manchester United. They also talk about the Tour Down Under, Andy's hip and National Pothole Day - yes, really. There's the now regular Cyclocross Corner and Gravel Stretch features. And a surprise 'live from Canada' for Bike v Cars.
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Festive 50
In this episode Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stu talk about their 'Festive 50km' ride in Richmond Park and the recording of it that never was. Three new items make their controversial debuts: Cyclocross Corner, Gravel Stretch and Bike versus Car. And there are some personal cycling New Year resolutions and pro-peloton predictions for 2024.
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Pog to ride the Giro!
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Andy talk about the news that the Beloved Pog will ride the Giro D'Italia in 2024. And they are in festive mood too. They talk about Christmas chocolate, Christmas cycling gifts and rather rashly announce their own Festive 50km ride. And as is customary, there's quite a bit of looking things up on the internet.
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Saudi Arabia's Cycling Circus
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Stuart talk about the controversial plans to overhaul the men's European cycling calendar. They also talk about the Giro and Tour routes for 2024 and London's most dangerous road junction for cycling. Plus, they lament the loss of cycling brand Islabikes.
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In Pog we trust
In this rather ramshackle episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stuart look back on Pog's swashbuckling win in Il Lombardia. They also talk about bike theft, cycling without saddles, Stuart's old 1980s Raleigh and whether or not they like cyclocross. Plus, they question the entire reasoning behind school half-term breaks and if darts is really just mini-javelin. There's also talk of watching some cycling in actual real life in 2024...
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Ride of the Falling Leaves
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Stuart are in slightly misty and mellow fruitfulness mode. They talk about the Ride of the Falling Leaves and the Race of the Falling Leaves. One in Italy, the other in Kent! They also talk about Rog leaving Jumbo and Sagan calling time on his road racing career. But mainly about whether it's time to finally ditch their cars.
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Venting over La Vuelta
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Andy vent about Jumbo Visma at La Vuelta. And how they might have been wrong about Remco. They also talk about how much they are looking forward to the return of Pog at Il Lombardia. And they answer an important question: are they responsible for the closure of local bike shops?
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From La Vuelta to La Belter?
In this episode, Matthew, Lawrence, Stuart and Andy talk mainly about La Vuelta. And ponder if, after 11 stages, the GC battle has finally got going. They also ponder why they don't get that excited about the Tour of Britain. Plus, there’s talk of 'holiday cycling', cheese, red trousers and the quality of tomatoes in UK supermarkets.
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La Vuelta | Postcard predictions
There's a different style and flavour to this episode. Dialing in from Croatia, France, Italy and Kent (!) with their audio postcards, Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stuart share their predictions for La Vuelta 2023. And of course, there's plenty of sidetracking and veering off on tangents.
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Marvellous Mathieu at the World Champs
In this rather confused episode, Matthew, Lawrence and Stuart talk mostly about Mathieu van der Poel's amazing ride in the Men's World Championship Road Race. And about the fabulously feisty Tour de France Femmes. They also get misty-eyed for Grandstand and Trans World Sport. Plus, they consider the absolute faff of driving from North Wales to South London.
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Tour de France | Stage 16 - 'that' time trial
In this somewhat worryingly serious and accurate episode, Matthew, Stuart and Andy talk about Stage 16 of the Tour de France. About also about the chances of a Pog fight back, the present and future fortunes of Wout and Pidders, and whether or not Cav will or should have one more go at getting that 35th stage win. Plus, what cycling in Copenhagen is really like compared to London.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
4 THE LOVE OF POG is Matthew, Lawrence, Andy and Stuart - London-based friends for more than 20 years. Now joined by Steve, they watch and talk about cycling, but also about food, footie, family life, and anything else that takes their fancy. But mostly, about cycling.
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