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A School Leader’s Playbook by Connecting Through Conversation
by Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
School leadership is messy, meaningful, & anything but easy. Hosted by Erika Bare & Tiffany Burns, long-time school leaders & authors of Connecting Through Conversation: A Playbook for Talking with Students & A School Leader’s Playbook for Tough Conversations, this podcast dives into the toughest moments educators face. From staff conflict & caregiver communication to power struggles & student behavior, it focuses on conversations that drive performance, behavior, & culture. With honesty & humor, Erika & Tiffany share what works, what doesn’t, & how to navigate the moments that shape school.
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When People Get Mad, Get Curious
You’re in the conversation and it turns. Someone is frustrated. Maybe their voice gets louder. Maybe they shut down. Maybe they come at you.And in that moment, it is easy to react or defend.In this episode, we focus on what to do instead. Because when someone gets mad, there is usually something underneath it. And if you can listen for that, you can get to the real issue and move the conversation forward.In this episode, you will learn:Why anger is often a signal of something deeperHow to listen for what is underneath the reactionWhy you cannot control others but you can control yourselfHow to identify a common purpose to move the conversation forwardThe difference between positions and the real problem underneathHow to use partnership language to stay on the same teamWhy focusing forward matters more than rehashing the pastSentence stems to identify the real issue:What would a resolution to this situation look like for you?How can I support you?What does support look like in this situation?What would be most helpful to move forward?Part of a 6-episode playbook for the toughest conversations school leaders face.Resources:https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resourcesLearn more about our books:https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book
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Let Them Catch Your Calm
You know those conversations where emotions start to rise and suddenly everything shifts? You feel it in your body. Your heart rate picks up, your shoulders tighten, and you can feel yourself getting pulled in.In this episode, we focus on what to do in that moment. Because even when you’ve planned well, tough conversations can escalate quickly. And when they do, how you show up matters.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why emotions escalate so quickly in tough conversationsHow emotional contagion impacts the tone of an interactionWhat mirror neurons are and why they matter for leadersWhy you can’t control others—but you can control yourselfSimple strategies to stay calm when emotions riseHow slowing your voice and presence can de-escalate the momentPart of a 6-episode playbook for the toughest conversations school leaders face.Resources:https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resourcesLearn more about our books: https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book
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Before You Say It, Plan It
You know the conversation you need to have. But how do you say it so it actually lands? In this episode, we share the concrete steps to plan a tough conversation so you can go in calm, clear, and ready to say what needs to be said. When someone catches you with “Do you have a minute?”, we show you how to buy yourself time and transition to a planned conversation instead. Then, we'll talk you through how to plan for it and anticipate what might come up.In this episode, you’ll learn:How to buy yourself time instead of getting pulled into an unplanned conversationSentence stems you can use to pause and schedule the conversationHow to plan with purpose, timing, location, and a clear concernWhy planning ahead makes tough conversations easier to manage and more likely to landPart of a 6-episode playbook for the toughest conversations school leaders face.Resources:https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resourcesLearn more about our books:https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book
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The Conversations That Keep You Up at Night
You know those tough conversations school leaders need to have and don’t want to? The ones you avoid, delay, or hope will resolve on their own? In this episode, we unpack what gets in the way, why waiting makes it worse, and why an imperfect conversation is better than none at all.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why leaders avoid tough conversations (even when they know they shouldn’t)Why bad news doesn’t get better with timeHow avoiding the conversation impacts your culture and your teamWhy softening the message can cause it to miss entirelyPart of a 6-episode playbook for the toughest conversations school leaders face.Resources:https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/resourcesLearn more about our books: https://www.connectingthroughconversation.com/our-book
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School leadership is messy, meaningful, & anything but easy. Hosted by Erika Bare & Tiffany Burns, long-time school leaders & authors of Connecting Through Conversation: A Playbook for Talking with Students & A School Leader’s Playbook for Tough Conversations, this podcast dives into the toughest moments educators face. From staff conflict & caregiver communication to power struggles & student behavior, it focuses on conversations that drive performance, behavior, & culture. With honesty & humor, Erika & Tiffany share what works, what doesn’t, & how to navigate the moments that shape school.
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