PODCAST · kids
After the Drop Off
by Beth Stanford Brown and Jess Ashworth
After the Drop Off is hosted by two working mums talking careers, kids, burnout, friendship shifts, invisible labour and the constant sense that something is being forgotten. It’s funny, honest, occasionally chaotic, and deeply reassuring if you’ve ever thought, surely it’s not meant to feel this hard.
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Enneagram Types Explained (for Mums): Why You React, Rage & Repeat the Same Patterns
This week on After the Drop Off, we’re breaking down the Enneagram personality types in a way that actually makes sense, especially if you’re a mum running on coffee, overstimulation and questionable patience by 5pm.We unpack all 9 Enneagram types, what they really look like in real life, and how they show up in motherhood, relationships, emotional triggers and burnout.Are you a perfectionist (Type 1) losing it when things feel out of control?A helper (Type 2) who gives everything then quietly resents everyone?Or avoiding conflict like a pro (Type 9) until you suddenly snap?We get honest about:* Why you react the way you do under pressure* The mental load, mum rage and emotional patterns no one talks about* How your Enneagram type impacts your parenting and relationships* Whether personality frameworks actually help or just give us new labels to hide behindIf you’ve ever googled “why do I overreact as a mum?” or “how to stop yelling at my kids,” this one’s for you.Because self-awareness is great, but what you do with it is what actually matters.
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The Names by Florence Knapp: Marriage, Motherhood, Domestic Violence & the Choices That make a life
This week on After the Drop Off, we’re diving into The Names by Florence Knapp, a powerful, conversation-starting novel that explores motherhood, marriage breakdown, and domestic violence in a way that is simultaneously intimate and deeply real.If you’re looking for a deep-dive book review of The Names, or a thoughtful book club discussion guide, Beth and Jess unpack the novel’s unique three-timeline structure and talk about what it tells us about identity, choice, and the invisible load carried by mothers.
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Our puberty education: a chicken book that turned Beth vegan & a very confronting diagram
The chicken book, the PE diagram… and everything no one actually explainedPuberty isn’t here yet for our kids… but we can see it coming.And if our own experiences are anything to go by, we’ve got some unpacking to do first.Because for a lot of us, “the talk” looked more like: • a profoundly confusing book about chickens • a very clinical (and weirdly arousing) diagram in a PDHPE class • and a whole lot of unanswered questions we were left to figure out ourselvesIn this episode of After the Drop Off, we’re reflecting on what puberty education actually looked like growing up: the awkward, the unclear, and the moments that weirdly stuck with us (sometimes as a full-blown sexual awakening… whether we were ready or not).We chat about: • What we were told vs what we needed to know • The gaps in how our generation learnt about bodies, sex, and puberty • How those early experiences shaped our comfort levels as adults • Why it still feels awkward talking about it — even now • And what we want to do differently with our own kidsThis isn’t a how-to guide, it’s a conversation about awareness.About breaking patterns, keeping what worked, and doing things more openly, honestly, and without the mystery.Because before we prepare our kids for puberty…we’re preparing ourselves.🎧 Perfect for parents of young kids who know puberty is coming..just not quite yet.⸻Keywords:puberty education 90s kids, how we learnt about sex at school, parenting before puberty, preparing kids for puberty conversations, awkward puberty stories, parenting influenced by childhood experiences, talking to kids about sex and bodies, millennial parents puberty reflection
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Our honest review of Margot’s got money trouble - and the other books we’ve read so far this year
Margot’s Got Money Trouble is about to hit Apple TV+ this April but is the book actually worth the hype?In this episode, we dive into our honest, unfiltered review of Margot’s Got Money Trouble the internet’s favourite chaotic read about money, motherhood, identity, and the lengths we go to when everything feels like it’s falling apart. We unpack what worked, what didn’t, and whether this is one you need to read before it lands on screen.But it wouldn’t be book club without a few strong opinions…We also share our takes on some of the most talked-about reads right now, including Good Material by Dolly Alderton, The Women and The Nightingale by Kristin Hannah, and Mad Mabel. Expect hot takes, questionable literary analysis, and the kind of honest mum-chat you won’t find in a Goodreads review.If you’ve ever wondered whether a book is actually good or just BookTok good, this one’s for you.🎧 Perfect for your post school drop-off walk, your solo Woolworths run, or hiding in the car for five minutes of peace.⸻Keywords: Margot’s Got Money Trouble, Apple TV+, book club podcast, Dolly Alderton, Kristin Hannah, The Women, The Nightingale, Mad Mabel, book reviews, mum podcast, Australian podcast, books to read 2026
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Perfectionism in Motherhood: Why So Many Mums Feel Like They’re Failing
In this episode of After the Drop Off, we unpack the quiet pressure of modern parenting — and the growing expectation that mothers and fathers should somehow be doing everything perfectly.From perfectly packed lunchboxes and homework supervision to birthday parties, careers and extracurriculars, many parents feel trapped in a cycle of perfectionism in parenting and the pressure to “get everything right”.Starting with a confronting statistic — that 73% of Australian parents say they feel “not good enough” at least once a week — we explore where this parenting pressure comes from, why mum guilt and perfectionism in motherhood have become so common, and whether our children are starting to absorb these unrealistic standards.We also look at how perfectionism in families can show up in children through family dynamics, including birth order roles. From eldest child syndrome and the pressure often placed on first-borns, to the independence associated with middle children, the freedom youngest children sometimes experience, and the unique expectations placed on only children who receive the full focus of parental attention.This episode isn’t about lowering the bar for parenting. It’s about questioning whether the modern parenting standards many of us are trying to live up to were ever realistic in the first place — and what it might look like to embrace good-enough parenting instead of perfectionism.
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I Once Got Letters Listing My Personality Flaws (So Let’s Talk About Friendship)
Beth once received handwritten letters from would-be friends outlining her personality flaws. So naturally, we’re talking about friendships — childhood nostalgia, adult reality, and how we model being good friends for our kids.In this episode of ATDO, we dive into the weird, wonderful and sometimes slightly brutal world of friendships — from the wholesome neighbourhood friendships of our childhoods to the awkward reality of navigating relationships as grown-ups.Jess reflects on the nostalgic magic of growing up in a street full of kids — rollerblading until dark, knocking on doors to see who could play, and the kind of friendships that felt effortless. The kind we secretly hope our kids get to experience too.But friendships aren’t always that simple.Beth also shares a truly unhinged childhood experience: receiving multiple handwritten letters from would-be friends… carefully outlining her personality flaws. Character building? Possibly. Traumatic? Also possibly.We talk about: • Why making and maintaining friendships as adults feels harder than it used to • The nostalgia of neighbourhood friendships and unsupervised street play • The mortifying experience of being critiqued via handwritten friendship letters • How motherhood changes the way we show up for friends • The importance of modelling healthy friendships for our kids • Why we want our children to grow up knowing how to be good friends — not just how to have them • The small ways we can nurture meaningful friendships in busy adult lifeBecause if we want our kids to grow up with strong, supportive friendships… they need to see what that looks like.And ideally it involves fewer handwritten personality assessments.
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Do Mums Get Hobbies? Identity, Guilt & Finding Yourself After Kids
When was the last time you did something just because you enjoyed it?In this episode of After the Drop Off, we’re unpacking hobbies in motherhood — why they disappear, why we feel guilty having them, and whether scrolling Instagram counts as one (asking for a friend).We talk about:Losing your identity after having kidsThe mental load and why hobbies feel indulgentThe difference between self-care and actual hobbiesWhy some mums “bounce back” into interests and others don’tThe pressure to be productive even in our downtimeWhether exercise counts as a hobby or just survivalIf you’ve ever answered “what do you do for fun?” with a blank stare, this one is for you.Because somewhere between daycare drop-off, school WhatsApp chats and cutting crusts off sandwiches, we forgot that we’re allowed to be interesting too.This episode is for the mums who:Used to have passionsWant something that feels like theirs againOr are just too tired to even know what they like anymoreIt’s honest. It’s funny. It’s mildly confronting. And it might just make you rethink what fills your cup.🎧 Listen now and tell us — do you actually have a hobby?
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Party Bags, Passive-Aggressive RSVPs & Other Primary School Politics
Kids’ birthday parties in Australia have become… a thing.What used to be pass-the-parcel and a Woolies mud cake is now balloon arches, RSVP anxiety and full-blown primary school social politics.This week on After the Drop Off, we unpack the modern kids’ birthday party pressure many Australian parents feel from comparison culture to party bags to the awkwardness of chasing RSVPs.Because somewhere between “just a few friends at the park” and “professionally styled backyard party”, the stakes got weirdly high.In this episode, we cover:The rise of over-the-top kids’ birthday partiesRSVP etiquette (and the passive-aggressive RSVP culture no one talks about)Low turnout anxiety and what it does to parentsKids’ party budgets: how much is too much?Party bags and lolly bags: are they essential or out of control? Comparison culture in primary school parenting The pressure to host a “good” party in Australia Kids’ party hacks we’ve seen online (and the ones that absolutely flopped). We are not event planners. We are not influencers. We are simply Australian parents in the thick of primary school birthday party season, trying to navigate modern party expectations without losing perspective (or our savings).And yes, we close with Party Court, where we put common kids’ birthday party crimes on trial, from not RSVPing to over-styling,and hand down completely unqualified verdicts.If you’ve ever:Googled “how much to spend on a kids birthday party in Australia”Spiralled over RSVP numbersCompared your backyard to someone else’s balloon installationWondered when birthday parties became competitiveYou’re in the right place.Please RSVP on time. It’s not that hard.____Hosts:Beth Stanford Brown @bethstanfordbrownJess Ashworth @jashworth_Follow the podcast @afterthedropoffKeywords: kids birthday parties Australia, kids party pressure, RSVP etiquette, party bags, primary school parenting, birthday party comparison culture, kids party budget, Australian parenting podcast
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“Nothing Tastes as Good as Skinny Feels?” Body Image, Diet Culture & Raising Kids in the Ozempic Era
“Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.”That quote — made famous by supermodel Kate Moss — shaped an entire generation of women. And if we’re honest? Parts of it still live in our heads.In this episode of After the Drop Off, we ask the uncomfortable question:Did diet culture ever actually go away — or did it just rebrand itself as “wellness”?We’re talking body image, weight loss pressure, gym culture, “clean eating”, and the quiet ways mums still shrink themselves — physically and metaphorically.We unpack:Growing up in peak 90s and 2000s diet cultureWhy “heroin chic” never really leftThe moral language we use around food (“being good”, “being bad”)Post-baby body image and the pressure to “bounce back”The contradiction of wanting to feel confident without becoming obsessedRaising sons and daughters in a world still obsessed with appearanceWhether body positivity has helped — or just added another standard to live up toWe also admit the messy bits:The calorie counting.The comparison spiral.The gym guilt.The jeans that don’t fit.The thoughts we’re trying not to pass on.This isn’t a body positivity lecture.It’s not anti-weight loss.And it’s definitely not us pretending we’ve figured it out.It’s a real conversation about body image in Australia — and what it takes to unlearn decades of messaging while raising kids who are watching everything.Because maybe the problem was never the quote.Maybe it’s how deeply we believed it.After the Drop Off is a podcast for parents navigating the primary school years — real, raw and funny conversations about modern motherhood, identity, friendships and the cultural stuff we’re still unpacking.
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The Primary School Shift No One Warned Us About (for Working Mums)
Welcome to After the Drop Off! This is episode one — and before we get into the conversations we’ll be having, we thought we should probably introduce ourselves.After the Drop Off lives in that moment once the kids are finally through the gate. You’re back in the car, your brain’s already half full, and you’re trying to switch gears into the rest of your day — work, life, logistics, all of it.In this pilot episode, Beth and Jess share where they’re at right now — very different seasons of motherhood, very real tensions, and the messy middle years of raising school-aged kids while still caring about your work, your friendships, and yourself.We talk about:Why this stage of motherhood feels so different to the daycare yearsThe shift that happens once you become a “school gate mum”The gap we felt in conversations for working mums of primary-aged kidsWhy we wanted a space that’s honest, grounded, funny — and not about fixing anythingThis podcast isn’t about advice, hacks, or having it all figured out. It’s about the conversations you usually have after drop-off — the ones that make you feel seen, lighter, and a little more normal heading into the day.If you’re listening in the car, post drop-off, we hope this feels like sitting next to that friend who just gets it.Follow us @afterthedropoffHOSTSBeth Stanford Brown @bethstanfordbrownJess Ashworth @jashworth_ LISTENER NOTEIf something in this episode resonated, we’d love you to share it with a friend who might need to hear it — or send us a message. We’re being real with you so you feel less alone.LINKShttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/231127044-mad-mabelhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57937453-all-her-faulthttps://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/tv-series/alone-australia
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After the Drop Off is hosted by two working mums talking careers, kids, burnout, friendship shifts, invisible labour and the constant sense that something is being forgotten. It’s funny, honest, occasionally chaotic, and deeply reassuring if you’ve ever thought, surely it’s not meant to feel this hard.
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Beth Stanford Brown and Jess Ashworth
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