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Between The Covers

Author Jay Ruud has read every ”100 Best Book” list there is, so it’s only natural that he would create his own. Listen to each episode as he and his wife, author Stacey Margaret Jones discuss a book from his carefully cultivated ”100 Lovable Books” list. Stacey interviews Jay on what makes the book ”lovable” and where it ranks on the master list. They’ll also discuss current books in the CHAOS READER segment.

  1. 84

    In a World of Nurse Ratcheds, Be The Chief …?

    This week Jay’s entry on the list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language is Ken Kesey’s seminal novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, which grapples with the power of systems against the individual human mind and various responses to the forces of the powers that be. Chaos Reader doesn’t achieve her goal, and checks in on Trollope.

  2. 83

    A Good Book of Short Stories is Hard to Find

    But not this week! Jay names The Complete Stories by Flannery O'Connor to his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, and—spoiler alert!—he LOVES talking about them. Stacey won’t let him spoil them all for you, though, dear listener. Chaos Reader makes a promise.

  3. 82

    The Jewel of Paul Scott’s Raj Quartet

    It’s fitting for Jay to follow up last week’s pick of A Passage to India with Paul Scott’s novel The Jewel in the Crown, as this first novel of Scott’s Raj Quartet has definite references to Forster’s earlier work as Scott chronicles the friction among people of differing races and classes in mid-century India. Chaos Reader updates her progress reading Ian McEwan’s latest novel.

  4. 81

    A Passage to Colonialism

    E.M. Forster’s 1924 novel A Passage to India is Jay’s pick this week for his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language. The nuance and opacity of this unflinching look at interpersonal relationships when empires are involved feels particularly relevant today. Chaos Reader shares a TV show she’s reading… in French.

  5. 80

    The Continuing Relevance of LORD OF THE FLIES

    Jay kicks off Season 3 of Between the Sheets with William Golding’s 1954 novel about boys stranded on a remote island, and their collective and individual responses to their situation. The novel’s themes are timeless. Chaos Reader checks in with Ian McEwan’s newest novel.

  6. 79

    Who is Really the Monster in Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein?

      In the final episode of Season 2, Jay names Mary Shelley’s 19th century gothic-horror novel FRANKENSTEIN to his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, and Chaos Reader checks in AGAIN with Gerald Ford’s biography, in which the author has entered the chat. BETWEEN THE COVERS will be taking a break between seasons, but we’ll be back later this spring to finish the list of 100 most lovable novels.

  7. 78

    I want, I want, I want… to read Henderson the Rain King

      Saul Bellow’s comic, yet philosophical novel Henderson the Rain King is Jay’s most lovable novel this week for his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language. Henderson’s mid-life crisis and the resulting international journey leads to a greater exploration of his own inner self. Chaos Reader checks in on her progress reading a biography of Gerald Ford (still).

  8. 77

    That Epic Book By That One New Jersey Guy

      Jay’s lovable novel this episode is AMERICAN PASTORAL by Philip Roth, in which the hero, Seymour “Swede” Levov, struggles to understand his life in late 20th  century America, and how the 1960s still reach into his family to trouble and unsettle him and those he loves. Chaos Reader introduces a new book she’s just picked up, one of Trollope’s Victorian-era Palliser novels, to fulfill her goal of having a long-book reading year. NOTE: Jay erred when he called Swede’s wife, “Donna.” Her name in the novel is “Dawn.”

  9. 76

    Postmodern Suspense in The Crying of Lot 49

      Jay makes his case that The Crying of Lot 49 is the most lovable of Thomas Pynchon’s novels as he dives into the plot of the 1966 conspiracy-theory, suspenseful novel. (It’s also Pynchon’s shortest novel.) Chaos Reader checks in on the progress she’s making in Kawabata’s The Sound of the Mountain.

  10. 75

    The Black Comedy of A Clockwork Orange

      This week, Jay’s pick is the 1962 novel by Anthony Burgess, A Clockwork Orange, which focuses on a violent teen subculture and a dystopian society’s attempt at reformation. Chaos Reader updates her progress on the biography she’s reading of Gerald Ford.

  11. 74

    Tess of the D’Urbervilles: Hardy’s Take on 19th Century Values

      Jay’s entry this week to his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language is Thomas Hardy’s 1892 novel Tess of the D’Urbervilles, and it raises issues 21st century readers are still grappling with. Chaos Reader discusses her reading goals for 2026. A NOTE ON THE SOUND: We discovered a mic issue after we recorded, so we know the sound is off on this one, but it wasn’t possible to fix in editing. We apologize and hope you’ll stick with this episode anyway.

  12. 73

    A Novel without a Hero? Vanity Fair!

      This week’s entry on Jay’s list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language is William Makepeace Thackeray’s VANITY FAIR, often considered the Victorian domestic novel that kicked off this sub-genre of fiction. Jay talks about why he has so much affection for the 1848 book that follows the lives of Becky Sharp and Amelia Sedley through British society. Chaos Reader checks in on the biography she’s reading of Gerald Ford.

  13. 72

    A Wacky-Sounding Book Can Be Great in the Hands of the Right Writer

    Jay chose Anthony Doerr’s CLOUD CUCKOO LAND for this episode’s lovable novel.  While the plot sounded a bit wackadoodle to Stacey, Doerr’s deft ability to link the book’s different narratives to a common theme that booklovers can relate to makes an effective case for its lovability. Chaos Reader discusses her personal reaction to being in a musical based on Dickens’ A CHRISTMAS CAROL.

  14. 71

    Exploring Gulliver’s Travels

      Jonathan Swift’s 1726 novel GULLIVER’S TRAVELS is Jay’s pick this week for his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, and Stacey admits she had a very narrow view of what the book was like to read or what it is really about. (Spoiler: It’s not a children’s story.) Chaos Reader discusses a recent New Yorker essay that made an impact on her.

  15. 70

    Ivanhoe Walked so Frodo Could Run

      Walter Scott’s IVANHOE: A ROMANCE is Jay’s choice for his 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language list this week. A 19th century example of medievalism, the book takes readers back to England in the Middle Ages and influenced how people think of this era today and significantly influenced 19th, 20th and 21st fiction to come. Chaos Reader buys a collection of poems by Margaret Atwood.

  16. 69

    Kick off the Christmas Season with some Little Women

    Jay chose Louisa May Alcott’s LITTLE WOMEN for this week’s lovable novel (which is also a lovely Christmas read) and surprises Stacey with the backstory of how it got written and how some savvy young readers green-lit the manuscript to get it published. After this discussion of Meg, Jo, Beth and Amy’s passage from girlhood to womanhood in Civil War-era New England, Chaos Reader picks up a biography of Gerald R. Ford about his passage from Congressman to President.  

  17. 68

    The Call of London’s The Call of the Wild

    This week Jay enters Jack London’s 1903 naturalist fiction novel The Call of the Wild, which Stacey was surprised to learn is not a children’s or young-adult novel. London’s dog hero Buck and his struggles highlight many issues inherent in a growing industrial economy as it trickles down to the creatures upon whom the work depends. Chaos Reader revisits Exit Interview for an update.

  18. 67

    Go Read Go Tell It on the Mountain!

    Jay convinces Stacey to read James Baldwin’s 1953 semi-autobiographical novel Go Tell It on the Mountain, a coming-of-age novel that grapples with race and religion in mid-twentieth century America. Chaos Reader gives a progress report and shares a tribute to a big influence in her reading life after his recent passing.

  19. 66

    The Rich, Rewarding, Historical World of Louise Erdrich’s The Night Watchman

    This week, Jay puts Louise Erdrich’s The Night Watchman on his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language. Stacey wants to know how he chose from Erdrich’s extensive list of works, because she too loves this American author and her entire canon. Chaos Reader checks in on her progress reading the Irish novel The Star of the Sea.

  20. 65

    Faulkner’s (Somewhat) Accessible Novel Light in August Makes the List

    William Faulkner’s southern gothic novel Light in August is Jay’s pick for his 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language list this week, and he and Stacey discuss the 1932 modernist work with its themes of race, sex, class and religion in the interwar American South, and why this is the book of Faulkner’s canon Jay selected. Chaos Reader shares a Diane Keaton tribute in the wake of the beloved actress’s recent passing.

  21. 64

    It’s a Good Time to Pick Up Steinbeck’s Grapes of Wrath

    This week, Jay makes the case for John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath as not only a relevant and cogent book for anyone who follows current events, but also as a book that is lovable—a joy to read. Chaos Reader checks in with the memoir of a corporate-America refugee.

  22. 63

    Henry James (Barely) Makes the List with The Turn of the Screw

    This week is the first time Jay surprises Stacey with a selection for his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, when he chooses Henry James’s novella The Turn of the Screw. Jay has been negging James since Jay was in graduate school, and Stacey wasn’t that taken with the novella when they recently read the book together. Who do you agree with? Chaos Reader checks in on the anthology of Marie Howe poetry she’s been enjoying.

  23. 62

    If You Don't Love Ulysses, Try Joyce's Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

    Jame Joyce’s Ulysses seems to be on every single reading and novels list, but it’s not on Jay Ruud’s. He chose Joyce’s A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man instead, because it actually is lovable. Chaos Reader discusses another existentialist work, Waiting for Godot.

  24. 61

    Beyond the Book Banning: Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter

    This week, Jay names Nathaniel Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter: A Romance to his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in English. Even though it’s one of the most banned books in the United States, there is a lovable novel to be read here, one that closely considers America’s Puritan past in a way that is still relevant today. Chaos Reader shares her progress in The Star of the Sea by Joseph O’Connor.

  25. 60

    Celebrate Banned Books Week with Huckleberry Finn

    Jay joins Ernest Hemingway and many others in his love of Mark Twain’s Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, and this week it gets added to his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language. He and Stacey discuss its lovability and its “bannability” as one of the most banned novels in the United States. Chaos Reader finally joins the party for a very popular novel she hasn’t picked up until now.

  26. 59

    Enter the Mysterious World of Dickens’ Bleak House

    Jay puts his second Dickens novel on the list this week, Bleak House, published in 1853. The looooong book uses many characters, two narrative points of view and several suspenseful plots to keep the reader turning pages to travel deeper and deeper into early industrial England, in which cultures are clashing and litigants are fighting in a decades-long lawsuit in Dickens’ masterful social criticism that still remains a delight to read. Chaos Reader picks up a new novel for a trip she’s taking soon.

  27. 58

    The Way They Lived Then is The Way We Live Now

    Jay adds Anthony Trollope’s The Way We Live Now to his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in English this week. This long Victorian novel, which was initially serialized and then published in 1875, focuses on the greed and dishonesty of all facets of life in the second half of the 19th century in Great Britain by following a financial scammer and his marks. Chaos reader talks about a New York Times listicle that is currently running her life.

  28. 57

    The Lord of the Rings isn’t an Allegory, but it is Applicable

    Named for the Dark Lord who created the One Ring, this trilogy is about the individuals who work together to save their society when the power to destroy them and their communities is building. Two of the smallest, least worldly characters embark on a journey only they can make, compelled by duty, and motivated by love. LOTR is one of the best-selling books of all time, and Jay and Stacey have plenty to say on this trilogy, that was originally conceived as one book (which is Jay’s defense for putting three books on his list as one entry). Chaos “Reader” has been doing a series rewatch and talks about why she loves Sex and the City. A note on the sound: We had some file issues with the production, so listeners may notice a change in the sound in the last few minutes of the episode. We apologize.

  29. 56

    A Hardboiled MacGuffin: The Maltese Falcon

    Jay shares with Stacey why he selected Dashiell Hammett’s classic detective novel The Maltese Falcon for his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, and they continue their discussion from last week’s talk about the hardboiled detective novel and how Hammett helped create the genre. Chaos reader introduces Henry James to the chat.

  30. 55

    Shut Your Response Hole: Raymond Chandler’s The Big Sleep

    This week, Stacey and Jay discuss the 50th book on Jay’s list of the Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, Raymond Chandler’s hard-boiled detective novel The Big Sleep. Our culture’s dark and complicated detective trope comes from this brilliantly written crime story. Chaos Reader dips into a how-to book for a big life change.

  31. 54

    Go Through the Looking-Glass to Wonderland with Alice … and Us

    Jay adds Lewis Carroll’s companion novels Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass to his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in English. He and Stacey talk about the delightful prose in the children’s book and some of the reasons it’s enchanting for adults, as well. Chaos Reader talks to Jay about his Substack, which is one of her newest reading pleasures.

  32. 53

    Step with Us to the Original Pirate Tale: Treasure Island

    This coming-of-age tale still ranks on Jay’s list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in English, because even as a retiree, the tale of “buccaneers and buried gold” still moves him with its imagination and insight. Chaos Reader shares one of her recent writing projects.

  33. 52

    A Post-Modernist Tale Inspired by an OG Novel: The Sot-Weed Factor

    This week’s addition to the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language list is John Barth’s Sot-Weed Factor, which Jay loves and Stacey hasn’t read (you might not have either…but you may want to after listening). Chaos Reader shares a new anthology that she and Jay have stories in.

  34. 51

    “The most perfect” novel, Tom Jones, a Foundling

    Jay Ruud and Stacey Margaret Jones discuss an OG novel, The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling, by Henry Fielding, a picaresque novel from the early days of the whole genre of novel writing. Why is it lovable? Find out with Stacey, who hasn’t read it, as Jay shares why he just loved reading it. Chaos reader gives an update on Sinead O’Connor’s memoirs.

  35. 50

    Come Away to Wuthering Heights With Us

    This week Jay has chosen Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë for his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, and he and Stacey discuss it along with last week’s entry, Jane Eyre, by Charlotte Brontë. Chaos reader shares her experiences with Sinead O’Connor’s memoir Rememberings.

  36. 49

    Charlotte Brontë Makes the List with Her Gothic Classic Jane Eyre

    This week's entry on the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language is Charlotte Brontë's Jane Eyre (listen to the pod to learn her pen name for initial publication), which Jay and Stacey discuss after having recently reread the novel aloud together and traveling to the Brontë family home in West Yorkshire, UK. Chaos reader shares a contemporary Irish novel they bought recently in Dublin. 

  37. 48

    A Fable of Colonial Power in J.M. Coetzee's Waiting for the. Barbarians

    J.M. Coetzee’s 1980 novel still has insight and meaning for us today as it grapples with how colonial power trickles down and through the individuals who administer it. Jay talks about how he selected this from Coetzee’s catalog of titles, and Stacey swoons over its selection, as she is a Coetzee completist. Chaos Reader starts a new book of poems.

  38. 47

    Atwood’s Dystopian Novel Makes the List

    This week, Jay shares in-depth why the disturbing dystopian novel The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood is a lovable book, even as it envisions a future for the United States that is peak patriarchy. Chaos Reader reports on her presidential-biography reading project.

  39. 46

    The Wonderful World of Wodehouse’s Woosters

    Jay’s List of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in English finally gets to one of his favorite writers when he discusses P.G. Wodehouse’s The Code of the Woosters, from which our culture gets the well-known Jeeves figure. Chaos reader goes again to the cookbook shelf for a volume by someone Americans love to hate.

  40. 45

    A Timeless War Novel from More than a Century Ago

    This week’s 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language entry is Stephen Crane’s The Red Badge of Courage, which Stacey knew was about a war, but not which war. Jay shares why it made his list and how it's as meaningful today as it was in 1895 when it was published. Chaos reader talks more about Richard Nixon by John A. Farrell.

  41. 44

    Kingsolver’s Conversation with Dickens: Demon Copperhead

    This week’s entry on the 100 Most Lovable Books in the English Language List is Barbara Kingsolver’s Demon Copperhead… This beloved instant classic is popular for a reason. While it updates the eternally relevant Dickensian themes of David Copperfield, it also brings us something totally new and completely American. Chaos reader has also started a biography of a very American figure.

  42. 43

    Jane Austen’s Emma, with a Healthy Dose of Movie Talk Thrown In

    Jane Austen set out to write a novel with an anti-hero: “A heroine whom no one but myself will much like,” she wrote about her goals for the book, so why is Emma so lovable? Of course, we couldn’t discuss this enjoyable book without spending time on the equally lovable film adaptations. Chaos reader shouts out a podcast, because, well… chaos.

  43. 42

    Philip Pullman's Subversive Fantasy

    This week, Jay goes rogue and chooses a whole trilogy of books as the next entry on his list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, Philip Pullman’s His Dark Materials series. He and Stacey discuss the theology behind what Pullman never meant to be young-adult literature, even if the main characters are young people. The page-turning fantasy novels are a very engaging delivery device for a iconoclastic consideration of religious belief. Chaos reader checks in with a new-to-her book of poetry.

  44. 41

    A Twentieth Century Take on a Legendary King

    Something in the King Arthur canon was bound to make it onto Jay’s list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language, and this week Jay and Stacey discuss the linked novellas that comprise this modern classic, the historical influences on White and the new takes that make this novel officially Lovable. Chaos Reader finally gets reading again with one of the New York Times best fiction books of 2024.

  45. 40

    "A Record of Hate More than Love"

    This week our married authors discuss Graham Greene’s The End of the Affair, the most recent entry on Jay Ruud’s list of the 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language. The novel focuses on the jealousy and obsession that come to the narrator Maurice after his lover Sarah ends their illicit relationship for her own reasons in the tumultuous time after WWII has ended in England. Chaos reader checks in with a cookery book.

  46. 39

    An Odd Best Friend with a God Complex

    A coming-of-age story about two boys, Owen and John, growing up in the 1950s and 1960s in rural New Hampshire. While the premise may seem unremarkable and relatable, there is nothing normal about Owen. Chaos Reader also checks in with a recommendation for Princess Diana-philes.

  47. 38

    Things We Love: Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe

    This week’s entry on the 200 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language list is Things Fall Apart by Nigerian novelist Chinua Achebe. We talk about Okonkwo, whose life is destroyed by colonialism’s effects on his community. Even if it sounds heavy, Jay makes a case for its lovability and ranks it on his ongoing list. Chaos Reader also checks in.

  48. 37

    Journey into Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness

    Jay and Stacey discuss the iconic, influential novel (novella?) by Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness. The journey of the plot is also a journey of the soul for the characters and their country, as well as an indictment of colonialism. Chaos Reader also reports for duty.

  49. 36

    Spend the Day with Mrs. Dalloway!

    Jay and Stacey discuss Virginia Woolf's masterpiece, entering the life of the mind of Clarissa Dalloway and her social set in this watershed novel of the early 20th century. Chaos reader talks about her own novel, Mr. Catherine. 

  50. 35

    The Best of Best-Selling British Author Terry Pratchett's Novels: Night Watch

    This week's entry on Jay Ruud's 100 Most Lovable Novels in the English Language is Terry Pratchett's Discworld novel, Night Watch, a time-traveling fantasy on a flat planet that considers the nature of power, the repetition of history and the role of the moral individual in relationship to autocratic government. And it's funny! Jay considers how he chose this novel from the pantheon of Pratchett's prolific output. And Chaos Reader confronts her reading block.     

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Author Jay Ruud has read every ”100 Best Book” list there is, so it’s only natural that he would create his own. Listen to each episode as he and his wife, author Stacey Margaret Jones discuss a book from his carefully cultivated ”100 Lovable Books” list. Stacey interviews Jay on what makes the book ”lovable” and where it ranks on the master list. They’ll also discuss current books in the CHAOS READER segment.

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