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ChildCare Conversations with Kate and Carrie
by Carrie Casey and Kate Woodward Young
Kate and Carrie have over 62 years in the childcare business industry and bring that background to their conversations. Having worked with over 5000 childcare programs across the country in the last 30 years together they are a fun and powerful team - ready to help you tackle your problems with practical solutions.
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343: What’s It Like Growing Up Literally Inside a Childcare Center? With Jonathan Pearce
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you'll meet Jonathan Pearce - a Louisiana childcare leader who literally grew up in childcare (his mom built a center next to her dance studio!). Jonathan shares his fascinating journey from engineering student and bartender to running four childcare centers. But here's where it gets really interesting - frustrated by inconsistent licensing regulations, he found his voice in advocacy. He shares how shifting the conversation from "babysitting" to essential education and business services has created real change in Louisiana. Such an inspiring chat!Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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Bonus Episode: The Greatest Lessons on Leadership and Connection from “Devil Wears Prada 2”
Send us Fan MailIn this fun bonus episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Marie chat about the new Devil Wears Prada 2 movie and what it means for early childhood leaders. They dig into how technology can never replace the human heart in childcare, and why encouraging your staff to share their stories matters so much. Vulnerability, authenticity, and celebrating the people around you are big themes here. With Teacher Appreciation Week as a backdrop, this episode is a warm reminder to lead with heart and keep discovering new perspectives!Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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342: Are You Making Too Many Reactive Decisions in Your Childcare Leadership?
Send us Fan MailEver feel like you're constantly putting out fires instead of running your program? Carrie and Kate get real about the hidden costs of reactive decision-making in childcare leadership. From losing staff and families to making impulsive purchases, those snap decisions add up fast! They share some genuinely practical strategies, like taking a simple pause before responding, leaning on your policies as a guide, and knowing when it's time to let someone go. If you're ready to lead with more confidence and less chaos, this one's worth a listen!Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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341: The Greatest Secrets from a Former State Licensing Consultant With Ronnae Williams
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of ChildCare Conversations, the hosts Kate and Carrie sit down with Ronnae Williams, aka the "State Lady," a former licensing consultant for Georgia. Ronnae shares her journey from Pre-K teacher to licensing rep and drops some seriously helpful wisdom about shifting your mindset around licensing visits. Instead of dreading that clipboard, think of it like a restaurant health inspection; it's there to keep kids safe! She also digs into playground safety, knowing your rules fully, and why year-round compliance beats last-minute panic every single time.Learn more about Ronnae or reach out if you want to learn more!email: [email protected]: www.culturally-yours.comCheck out this month's sponsor: CenterIQ.ioThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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340: How Is Whitney McCrory Fighting Oklahoma’s Childcare Crisis?
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you'll meet Whitney McCrory, a true childcare legacy carrier from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Her mom launched the business back in 1982, and Whitney took the reins in 2018, running three nationally accredited five-star centers. She gets real about surviving COVID, navigating brutal state budget cuts, and fighting for quality care in a heavily regulated environment. Plus, she shares some genuinely memorable stories along the way. Her biggest staff retention secret? Simply showing up. Learn more about her journey in this episode Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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339: The Most Innovative Childcare Funding Strategy You Haven’t Heard About Yet With Barbara Tedrow
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you'll meet Barbara Tedrow from New Mexico, a childcare owner turned powerhouse advocate. Barbara shares how New Mexico built a truly universal childcare system, funded by an oil and gas trust fund that has grown to a whopping $11 billion! She also breaks down how the state created its own Early Childhood Department at the cabinet level, giving childcare a real seat at the table. Plus, she shares some genuinely sweet staff appreciation ideas. This one is packed with inspiration, listen now!Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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338: How Can You Successfully Finance Your Childcare Center? With Dr. Mia Young
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversation, Kate and Carrie sit down with the amazing Dr. Mia Young, a 27-year education veteran who went from public school principal to childcare entrepreneur! Dr. Young breaks down the real financial journey of opening and expanding child care centers, including navigating SBA loans, building banking relationships, and what it actually costs to build a $57 million facility. She also drops gems about assembling an advisory board, using free SCORE and SBDC resources, and showing your staff genuine appreciation year-round. Grab a notebook, this one's packed! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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337: Struggling with Staff Retention? Here’s What Every Childcare Director Needs to Know!
Send us Fan MailEver wonder why staff retention feels so hard in childcare? Kate and Carrie get real about it in this episode! They dig into how childcare evolved without much business training built in, leaving many directors figuring out staff management on the fly. Sound familiar? They share practical wisdom on avoiding favoritism, showing appreciation equitably across your entire team, and why positive reinforcement matters for everyone. They also highlight their book "From Overwhelm to I Got This" and their leadership courses.Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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336: Is Staff Appreciation Week Really Enough to Keep Your Childcare Team Happy?
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie tackle why Staff Appreciation Week alone isn't enough to retain your childcare team. They share practical, budget-friendly ideas for showing appreciation year-round — think personalized gifts, cooking lunch, surprise concert tickets, and even starting a movie club! They also address the post-COVID challenge of scaling back extravagant perks and offer smart advice on keeping staff involved in planning celebrations. The big takeaway? Know your people, appreciate them consistently, and build a culture where everyone feels truly seen. Take a listen to learn more!Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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335: Walk, Notice, Appreciate: The Secret to a Happy Childcare Team
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Child Care Conversations, Kate and Carrie dive into making staff appreciation a daily leadership habit. Inspired by the concept of "management by walking around," Carrie shares how doing quick, intentional classroom walk-throughs twice a day helps leaders truly see their staff in action. From jotting notes on paper to sending a quick video message saying "I saw what you did, and it was amazing!", the focus is on timely, specific praise. Even small gestures matter more than you'd think. Consistency is the real secret here!Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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334: The Best Ways to Celebrate Your Childcare Team!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Kate and Carrie chat about the real-life ups and downs of showing appreciation to childcare staff, without breaking the bank. They swap clever, heartfelt ideas like handwritten notes, photo keepsakes, and simple thank-yous for everyone from teachers to van drivers. The duo reminds us that genuine recognition, whether it’s a high five or remembering a staff member’s favorite snack, creates a joyful, supportive workplace. Their resourceful tips prove you don’t need a big budget to make staff feel valued, and when you do, everyone (especially the kids!) wins. Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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333: How Can Early Childhood Leaders Shift Their Focus from Problems to Positives?
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie chat about a leadership habit every early childhood director should try: focusing on the positives! They explain why our brains naturally spot problems first, but how shifting to notice and celebrate what’s going well can boost morale and quality. Carrie shares her “Caught in the Act” strategy, intentionally catching staff doing great things and giving real-time praise. It’s a friendly, practical conversation full of tips you can use right away to create a happier, more supportive program. Give it a listen and try catching someone being awesome today! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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332: How Can Childcare Directors Show Genuine Appreciation to Their Staff? You're Probably Doing it Wrong
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie chat about how childcare directors can truly show appreciation for their staff, without falling into the trap of generic gifts or pizza parties. They share practical tips on understanding each team member’s unique “language of appreciation,” planning for special occasions, and making even simple gestures feel personal and meaningful. Whether it’s a thoughtful note, a favorite snack, or a homemade meal, Kate and Carrie remind us that real appreciation comes from knowing and valuing the wonderful people who make childcare possible.Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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331: How Can Childcare Centers Boost Enrollment and Communication Effectively? With Jared Hall
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, you’ll join Kate and Carrie as they chat with Jared Hall, CEO and Founder of IntelliKid Systems, a software platform built for childcare centers. Jared shares stories from his family’s decades in the industry and dives into how technology can help with enrollment, lead tracking, and communication (yes, answering the phone really matters!). You’ll pick up practical tips on sales, marketing, and building trust with families. It’s a friendly, resourceful conversation that feels like old friends swapping secrets over coffee, perfect for anyone looking to grow their childcare business. Want to see how IntelliKid Systems' Enrollment Intelligence tools can help your center grow? Check them out at https://www.intellikidsystems.com/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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330: Are Personal Phones in Childcare Classrooms a Hidden Danger?
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie dive into the real risks of staff using personal phones in childcare settings. They share eye-opening stats about explicit content on devices and discuss why strict no-phone policies are a must to keep kids safe. They offer practical tips—like using phone organizers and staff training—to help directors protect children and avoid legal trouble. Their friendly, knowledgeable chat is a wake-up call for anyone in childcare: it’s time to take action and put safety first! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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329: The Best Tips for Planning a Stress-Free Preschool Graduation Ceremony With Allie Guinn
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you’ll join Kate, Carrie, and guest Allie Guinn as they chat about all things preschool graduation. They share smart tips for planning meaningful celebrations, from picking the perfect timing (spring or August?) to budgeting for those adorable caps and gowns. Allie dishes out her expertise on safety (watch out for those bargain-bin tassels!) and offers resources to make organizing a breeze. You’ll feel like you’re swapping stories with old friends—full of laughs, practical advice, and a little nostalgia. Perfect for anyone gearing up for graduation season! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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328: The Best Marketing Partnership Ideas for Childcare Centers!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Childcare Conversations," Kate and Carriechat about a clever way to market your childcare center, by creating a neighborhood guidebook from a child’s perspective! They share how partnering with local realtors and businesses (think: restaurants, pediatricians, movie theaters) can help you connect with new families and stand out as a community leader. It’s all about building relationships, sharing resources, and making your center the go-to spot for families moving in. If you love creative, practical ideas (and a good story or two), you’ll feel right at home here! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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327: How Can Boost Help Teachers in Financial Crisis? Podcasthon 2026 Episode
Send us Fan MailIn this heartwarming episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie chat with Meredith Douglas from Boost, a nonprofit helping preschool teachers through tough times, think surprise car repairs or medical bills. Meredith shares how Boost steps in with emergency funds, offers financial education, and makes it easy for directors to nominate teachers in need. They also discuss how centers can support Boost through donations, creating a ripple effect that benefits entire classrooms. If you care about teachers and kids, this episode is packed with practical ways to make a real difference! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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326: Ditch the Decorative Bookshelf: How to Use Leadership Books for Real Growth!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, your favorite duo gets real about leadership books. You know, the ones piling up on your nightstand. They chat about using books as tools, not just decor, and share tips for matching your reading style (audio, visual, or hands-on) to the right format. Kate and Carrie also recommend practical reads like It’s Lonely at the Top and spill the beans on upcoming conferences. If you want to grow as a leader without feeling overwhelmed, this episode is full of friendly, resourceful advice just for you! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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325: The Importance of Social-Emotional Development in Early Education With Sharon Burnett
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you’ll join a warm chat with curriculum expert Sharon Burnett. Sharon shares her journey from kindergarten teacher to founder of Frog Street and creator of the “Foundations” program, which blends music, play, and social-emotional learning for emergent literacy. You’ll pick up practical tips on weaving these playful, research-backed strategies into your daily routine; no need to overhaul your schedule! Sharon’s stories and advice will leave you inspired and ready to make learning joyful and meaningful for every child.Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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324: The Greatest Benefits of Collaboration Between Home-Based and Licensed Child Care!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you’ll feel like you’re sitting down with two friends over coffee as they unpack the role of home-based childcare in our communities. They chat about the differences between regulated and unregulated care, the unique strengths of home providers, and how centers and home programs can support each other (not compete!). They also tackle tough topics like safety, stereotypes, and the importance of educating families. You’ll walk away with practical tips, fresh insights, and a renewed sense of how we can all work together for kids’ well-being. https://www.kxan.com/investigations/risks-to-children-why-texas-is-warning-about-unregulated-home-child-care/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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323: How Can Mentorship Transform Your Journey in Early Childhood Education? With Meghan Cornwell
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you’ll meet Meghan Cornwell, whose journey from theatre and entertainment marketing to early childhood education is anything but typical! Meghan opens up about the ups and downs of finding mentorship—like being “ghosted” and feeling unsure how to ask for help. Together, the trio shares wisdom on making mentorship meaningful (and less intimidating), the hidden skills we all bring, and how even small contributions can make a big difference. If you’ve ever wondered how to give or get support in childcare, this chat is full of practical, heartfelt advice. https://www.famly.co/us/blog/mentorship-in-early-childhood-education-why-it-matters-and-how-to-make-it-happenThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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322: The Greatest Communication Pitfalls Between Childcare Owners and Directors
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie dive into the everyday communication hurdles between child care center owners and directors. Through relatable role-plays and real talk, they unpack why owners and directors sometimes feel like they're speaking different languages, especially around emails, staff appreciation, and budgets. They share practical tips for setting boundaries, clarifying expectations, and understanding classroom finances. If you’ve ever felt lost in translation at work, this episode is packed with friendly advice and resourceful strategies to help your team thrive together! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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321: Navigating Childcare Differences: A Chat with Fiona Webb on Best Practices
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Carrie and Kate sit down with Fiona Webb, a UK childcare owner, for a warm, globe-trotting chat. They swap stories about Fiona’s journey from the army to early years education, compare UK and US childcare quirks, and dream up a world tour to explore international programs. The conversation is full of laughs, practical wisdom, and reminders that finding the right fit. Between families and programs, matters most. You’ll walk away inspired to keep learning, connecting, and maybe even planning your own childcare adventure!Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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320: How Can Childcare Centers Thrive Without Financial Bailouts?
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, you’ll feel like you’re sitting down with two wise friends over coffee. Kate and Carrie get real about the financial ups and downs of running a childcare center, think about unexpected repairs, snow days, and the tricky balance between personal and business finances. They share smart strategies for building resilience, keeping staff in the loop, and planning for the unexpected. Plus, there’s a sneak peek at their upcoming summit packed with expert advice. It’s a resourceful, honest chat for anyone navigating the world of childcare business! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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319: How Can Daily Leadership Check-Ins Transform Your Multi-Site Childcare Program? With Chris Mabasa
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie chat with Chris Mabasa, an experienced area director in childcare. Chris shares how his team keeps communication strong and leadership unified across four rapidly growing sites. Think daily check-ins, shared training, and creative staff events like the Dream Summit. You’ll pick up practical tips on building a supportive culture, empowering staff, and managing growth without losing that close-knit feel. If you’re navigating multi-site challenges or just want to boost your team’s connection, this episode is packed with resourceful ideas and a few laughs along the way! Check out our past Primrose Episodes:243: https://www.buzzsprout.com/953587/episodes/16824455278: https://www.buzzsprout.com/953587/episodes/17733101 Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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318: Unlocking the Secrets to Engaging and Effective Childcare Training
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations with Kate and Carrie, the hosts chat about making professional development in childcare truly meaningful. They share tips on moving beyond “check-the-box” trainings, like using book clubs, setting personal goals, and encouraging real engagement; yes, even turning cameras on during virtual sessions! Carrie offers resourceful strategies for reflective learning and ongoing growth, while both hosts stress the importance of leadership modeling and accountability. If you’re looking to boost staff motivation and create lasting change, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and friendly advice.Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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317: How Does Your Classroom Environment Shape Young Minds? With Zlata Stankovic-Ramirez
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations with Kate and Carrie, you’ll hear a down-to-earth chat with a professor from Texas Woman’s University about how classroom environments shape little ones’ learning and behavior. They swap stories and practical tips—think calming colors, less clutter, and spaces that match your program’s philosophy (Montessori, Reggio, etc.). You’ll pick up resourceful ideas for making big improvements on a budget, why listening to kids’ preferences matters, and how a thoughtful setup helps both children and teachers thrive.Learn more about Zlata Stankovic-RamirezThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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316: The Best Strategies to Combat Burnout in Childcare Leadership!
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Kate and Carrie chat about the wild ride that is January and February for childcare directors. They share real talk about feeling overwhelmed, juggling too many hats, and how simple systems (like “tiger time” and body doubling) can save your sanity. You’ll pick up clever delegation tips, think about handing off party planning or SOP creation, and hear how automation and leadership development can lighten your load. It’s like sitting down with two wise friends who’ve been there, ready to help you work smarter, not harder! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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315: The Best Branding Strategies to Boost Your Childcare Enrollment with Ruth Ann Rose!
Send us Fan MailYou’re going to love this episode! Kate and Carrie sit down with marketing pro Ruth Ann Rose to chat about how childcare centers can boost enrollment with smart, consistent branding. They swap stories about marketing mishaps (including a cringe-worthy website link fail!), explain why your digital footprint matters, and share easy tips for keeping your online presence polished. Ruth Ann’s advice is practical and reassuring. Think of it as a friendly checkup for your center’s marketing health. If you want your program to stand out and attract more families, this episode is a must-listen! Learn more about Rose Marketing: https://rosemarketingsolutions.nethttps://www.facebook.com/RoseMarketingSolutions/https://www.instagram.com/rosemarketingsolutions/https://www.linkedin.com/company/rose-marketing-solutionshttps://rosemarketingsolutions.net/blog/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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314: Is Childcare in Crisis? Understanding the Urgent Challenges Facing Providers Today
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations with Kate and Carrie, it’s just Carrie at the mic, diving deep into the tough realities facing childcare in the U.S. She unpacks legal battles over subsidy freezes in five states, Head Start’s fight for DEI, and the ripple effects of payment delays and funding cuts. Carrie’s got practical advice and heartfelt stories, all with a dose of hope and resourcefulness. If you care about kids, families, or the future of child care, this one’s for you.Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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313: How Can Childcare Providers Unlock Hidden Funding Opportunities? With Logan Holley
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie sit down with the ever-resourceful Logan (aka “Logan the Leprechaun”) to chat about creative ways to fund your child care program. They share tips on using data you already collect, crafting compelling stories, and—here’s the gold—tapping into local business marketing budgets for sponsorships and discounts. You’ll walk away with new ideas and the confidence to ask for that “pot of gold” your program deserves! Learn more at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logan-holley-ba8559182/ or email [email protected] out this month's sponsor at ECENAC.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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312: How Can We Transform Families into Co-Pilots in Early Childhood Education? With Erica of Childcare Directors Chair
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Kate and Carrie get interviewed in an episode of The Child Care Director’s Chair. Erica Saccoccio sits down with them to chat about building real, lasting partnerships between schools and families. They share smart, down-to-earth tips—like swapping rushed updates for meaningful stories and asking parents thoughtful questions at pick-up. The trio reminds us that when educators and families become true “co-pilots,” kids thrive and communities grow stronger. Plus, there’s a special invite to the Early Childhood Empowerment Conference! If you’re ready to lead with heart and connect deeper, this episode is a must-listen. 🚀Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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311: Breaking the Glass Ceiling: Women Leading the Way in Early Education With Jaime Rechkemmer
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Childcare Conversations, Kate and Carrie sit down with leadership consultant Jaime Rechkemmer for a warm, insightful chat about women’s leadership in early childhood education. Jamie shares her journey, the power of informal mentoring, and how real growth often comes from everyday connections—not just formal titles. They discuss the challenges women face in balancing career and family, and why supporting each other is key. If you’re looking for practical tips and a little inspiration to boost your confidence as a childcare leader, this episode is like a coffee date with friends who truly get it!Check out this month's sponsor at ECENAC.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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310: How Nonprofits and Private Programs Can Collaborate for School-Aged Success! With Tyler and Autumn
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Childcare Conversations," Kate and Carrie sit down with Tyler and Autumn from Wichita Falls’ Southside Youth Center to chat all things school-aged care. You’ll hear how their program blossomed from a small girls’ club into a vibrant STEAM hub, plus get the inside scoop on the joys (and quirks!) of working with older kids. They share resourceful tips for nonprofit management, creative curriculum ideas, and the importance of tailored training. If you’re looking to level up your afterschool program, this episode is packed with wisdom, warmth, and a few laughs along the way! Learn more at: https://southsideyouthsenter.com/Check out this month's sponsor at ECENAC.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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309: How Can AI Transform Communication in Childcare? With Kaila Linder
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Childcare Conversations," Kate and Carrie sit down with Kaila Linder, an AI trailblazer and preschool owner, to chat about how artificial intelligence is transforming the childcare industry. ☎️🤖 Kayla shares her journey from teacher to tech innovator, introducing tools like “AI Emily” that help centers answer calls, manage messages, and even monitor online reviews. The trio swap practical tips and real-life stories, making AI feel less intimidating and more like a helpful friend—freeing up time so you can focus on what matters most: the children!Check out more at Linderconnect.comCheck out this month's sponsor at ECENAC.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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308: Are You Missing Out on Tax Savings for Your Childcare Center? With David Encarnacion
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Child Care Conversations, Kate and Carrie sit down with tax pro David of DaycareAccounting Pro to chat about smart, proactive tax strategies just for childcare center owners. They break down why traditional accountants might miss big savings and how working with a specialist can free up money for things like teacher bonuses or playground upgrades. David shares real-life success stories and tips for talking to your accountant about new strategies. If you’re ready to feel more confident and resourceful with your center’s finances, this episode is a must-listen! Learn more here: https://daycareaccountingpro.com/Check out this month's sponsor at ECENAC.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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307: Protecting Your Childcare Business: The Ultimate Guide to Insurance with Samantha Phillips
Send us Fan MailYou’re in for a treat with this episode of "Childcare Conversations"! Kate and Carrie sit down with insurance specialist Sam Phillips, who shares her hard-earned wisdom on protecting your childcare business. From why bundling insurance isn’t always your friend to decoding tricky policy terms (think: insurance made as easy as a Tinder swipe!), this episode is packed with practical tips. Sam’s real-life stories and her Childcare Insurance Playbook make insurance feel a lot less overwhelming. If you want to feel confident and prepared, this chat is a must-listen! Follow Sam to learn more! https://www.facebook.com/samthesparklyone/Check out this month's sponsor at ECENAC.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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306: Are You Ready to Kickstart Your 2026 with Confidence in Childcare Leadership?
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Child Care Conversations, Kate and Carrie chat about kicking off 2026 with a fresh mindset for childcare leaders. They share practical tips on setting micro-goals (no vision board required!), finding the right mentors or coaches, and building a supportive network. Whether you’re facing enrollment challenges or just need a confidence boost, they’ve got you covered. The big takeaway? Focus on what brings you joy and remember—you’re not alone in this journey. Here’s to a confident, joyful year ahead in your center!Check out this month's sponsor at ECENAC.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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305: Building Strong Connections in Early Childhood Leadership With Lori Buxton
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of ChildCare Conversations, you’ll sit in on a warm chat with Lori Buxton from the Association of Early Learning Leaders and our hosts Kate and Carrie. Lori shares her unexpected journey into early childhood care, the healing power of children’s love, and her passion for supporting leaders. Together, they swap stories about leadership, communication, and the joys (and chaos!) of running childcare centers. You’ll pick up practical tips on staff support, parent relations, and the value of community—plus a few laughs along the way.https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-buxton-995bba29/AELL Annual Conference - https://web.cvent.com/event/25f30ec2-d9b6-4485-8579-8779f7d9b318/websitePage:09fc6960-9255-42dd-b154-f54a2bc45685?rt=Cw32CnkCOkuRvS1slJkv_QThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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304: How Can Home-Based Childcare Providers Thrive in a Competitive Landscape? With Jerletha McDonald
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Childcare Conversations," hosts Carrie and Carrie sit down with Jerletha McDonald, CEO of Family Tracker, to chat about the joys and challenges of home-based childcare. Julia shares her inspiring journey from hospital lab tech to passionate childcare advocate, and they all swap stories about why many providers love the flexibility and community of small, family-focused programs. You’ll pick up tips on building support networks, collaborating with centers, and advocating for quality care. If you’re curious about the heart behind home-based childcare, this one’s a must-listen!Learn more about Jerletha here: https://www.adfwchildcare.org/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerletha-mcdonald-74705812b/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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303: How Can We Reclaim the Power of Play in Early Childhood Education? With Denita Dinger
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Child Care Conversations, Kate and Carrie chat with Denita Dinger, a passionate early childhood educator, about the magic of child-led play. They dive into the challenges of balancing structured themes with letting kids’ interests lead the way—even when programs have strict schedules. You’ll pick up practical tips for weaving children’s voices into daily routines, plus hear about resources like Denita’s upcoming course and a free “Top Five Play Opportunities” guide. It’s a warm, insightful conversation perfect for anyone wanting to champion play in early learning! Here is the link to her freebie:https://mailchi.mp/1b5fecf26f42/denitas-top-5-play-opportunitiesThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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302: Advocacy, Family Dynamics, and Business Strategies for Success! With Tim Kaminski
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Child Care Conversations, you’ll join Kate, Carrie, and guest Tim Kaminski for a warm, insightful chat about what it really takes to lead in early childhood education. Tim shares his journey from healthcare to child care, the ups and downs of family business, and how he became a passionate advocate for the industry. You’ll pick up practical tips on building relationships with policymakers, collaborating with local resources, and supporting children’s needs—plus a few laughs and “aha!” moments along the way. It’s real talk for leaders who want to make a difference! Learn more about Tim at https://www.tlcca.org/ andhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-kaminski-74aa289/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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301: How Can We Transform Early Childhood Education with STEAM? With Susie Beghin
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Child Care Conversations, Kate and Carrie sit down with Susie Beghin, a passionate early childhood leader from Toronto. They chat about weaving STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Art, and Math) into preschool life—think block play as “engineering” and art projects inspired by real architecture! Susie shares her Four Pillars of Learning framework and offers clever tips for integrating literacy and science into every corner of the classroom. If you’re looking for friendly, practical ideas to spark curiosity and creativity in young learners, this episode is a treasure trove! Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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300! Let's Transform Your Team With Beth Cannon
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Child Care Conversations," Kate and Carrie sit down with Beth Cannon, a seasoned leadership coach, to chat about the real challenges of leading early childhood programs—especially as the new year rolls in. Beth shares her journey from teacher to trainer, offers practical tips on staff engagement, accountability, and adapting to Gen Z, and highlights the power of clear communication. Plus, she announces her new book and upcoming events! If you’re looking for fresh, actionable leadership wisdom (with a dash of warmth and humor), this episode is a must-listen. Learn more about Beth at her website: www.bethcannonspeaks.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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299: How Can We Elevate the Perception of Early Childhood Educators? With Tym The Trainer
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Childcare Conversations," Kate and Carrie sit down with Tym Smith—aka "Tym the Trainer"—to chat about his 38-year journey in early childhood education. Tym shares insights on advocacy, the importance of language in elevating the profession, and the economic impact of childcare centers. He also dishes on upcoming events like training cruises and conferences, perfect for learning and connecting with fellow educators. If you’re passionate about early childhood education, this episode is packed with wisdom, laughs, and a nudge to take pride in your vital work! Learn more at: https://www.tymthetrainer.com/https://www.earlylearningleaders.org/wordsmatter/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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298: Empowering Young Mothers Through Childcare and Education With Nancy Sylvester
Send us Fan MailIn this heartwarming episode of "Child Care Conversations," you’ll meet Mrs. Nancy Sylvester, a true champion for young mothers still in school. Nancy shares how her center offers not just childcare, but tutoring, parenting classes, and wraparound support for teen moms. Her story is full of wisdom, resilience (even through her own cancer battle), and moments of deep connection—like when her girls donned scarves in solidarity on Zoom. If you’re passionate about supporting families or want to start a similar program, this episode is a must-listen!Leanr more at: https://www.globalconnectlearning.com/Check out this episode's sponsor: https://www.tryplayground.com/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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297: How Can We Transform Childcare to Support Families and Communities? With Crystal Campbell
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Child Care Conversations," Kate sits down with Crystal Campbell, President of SICA, for a warm, insightful chat about the real challenges and bright spots in early childhood education. They swap stories about building resilient childcare systems, supporting staff, and why local businesses matter. Crystal shares creative ideas for workplace wellness and community partnerships, while Kate offers practical advice on financial planning for centers. It’s like catching up with an old friend—full of wisdom, laughs, and a few “aha!” moments for anyone passionate about supporting kids, families, and communities. Learn more about SECA: https://www.seca.info/conferenceCheck out this episode's sponsor: https://www.tryplayground.com/Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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296: The Greatest Superpower for Early Childhood Directors: Emotional Intelligence
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of "Child Care Conversations," hosts Carrie and Kate explore the vital role of emotional intelligence (EQ) for early childhood education directors. They discuss how EQ helps leaders build trust, manage staff and parent relationships, and model emotional regulation for both adults and children. The conversation covers the benefits and potential pitfalls of high EQ, practical strategies for staff training, and tips for handling difficult conversations. The hosts also share resources for ongoing professional development and encourage directors to find a healthy balance between empathy and self-care in their leadership roles.Thanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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295: The Best Strategies for Navigating Child Care Management Challenges with Rob and Amanda
Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Child Care Conversations, Kate sits down with Rob and Amanda from Playground, the all-in-one child care management software. They swap stories about their unique paths into early childhood tech—think opera singer turned account manager and a corporate pro finding new purpose after a layoff! The trio chats about the real struggles child care leaders face, like chasing payments and tech headaches, and how Playground’s friendly support team makes life easier. Kate also shares upcoming events, ways to connect, and a few handy tips.Learn more about our episodes sponsor: www.tryplayground.comThanks for Listening 🎧Want to learn more? Check out our book; "From Overwhelmed to I Got This: Guaranteed Success Route to Directing Your Childcare Center" 📖Join our Facebook Group for Childcare professionals!Join our Podcast Newsletter!Want to be a guest on our podcast? Go to our website to learn more.Are you looking for director training in Texas? Check out our Texas Director Website for our training and additional resources!
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Kate and Carrie have over 62 years in the childcare business industry and bring that background to their conversations. Having worked with over 5000 childcare programs across the country in the last 30 years together they are a fun and powerful team - ready to help you tackle your problems with practical solutions.
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Carrie Casey and Kate Woodward Young
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