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Class of Business
by Wisdom
Class of Business is the show for anyone who wants to understand how modern business really works—without the jargon, the fluff, or the boring lectures. Each episode breaks down real strategies, real stories, and real challenges from founders, creators, and builders who are figuring it out in the real world.If you’re building a business, growing a brand, or trying to turn your ideas into something that pays the bills, this is your weekly masterclass. Straight talk. Sharp insights. Zero intimidation.Come learn the lessons nobody teaches but everyone needs.
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How Battle Scars Shape Founders—Chris Shurian | Ep 5
If you’ve ever wondered what really changes after decades in business, this episode will hit home. Chris Shurian, founder of Bootstraps and Battle Scars, opens up about nearly forty years of entrepreneurship—including leading a $15 million construction company, surviving cancer, and finishing two Ironmans. You’ll pick up what "bootstrapping" means at a gut level, how Chris actually uses hard-won lessons ("battle scars"), and what truly makes a business sustainable in a world that keeps changing. We also get into why founders struggle to drop their armor, building teams that can step up when you need to step away, and how setbacks can be blessings in disguise. Tune in for the wisdom you earn the hard way, delivered with honesty and perspective.Connect With Chris ShurianWebsite: https://bootstrapsandbattlescars.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisshurian/If Class of Business speaks to you, consider subscribing so you never miss an episode. And if you have a moment, leaving a review helps more people discover the conversations shared here. Your support truly means a lot.There's more to every story than what you hear on the episode. Join the Class of Business newsletter to receive thoughtful takeaways, episode extras, and personal notes that don't make it into the show. It's a quiet way to stay sharp between listens.Sign up here: https://classofbusiness.com/joinChapters00:00 Lessons in Battle Scars00:26 Meet Chris Shurian—Entrepreneur and Survivor01:15 The Meaning Behind Bootstraps and Battle Scars02:45 Why “Bootstrapping” Resonates With Founders03:50 Business Lessons and Battle Scars04:34 Old Chris vs. New Chris—A Founder’s Evolution05:37 How Wisdom, Not Just Youth, Shapes Entrepreneurs06:34 Deliberately Facing Fear and Past Mistakes07:00 Dropping the Armor—The Leader’s Dilemma08:09 Why It’s So Hard to Be Vulnerable at the Top09:14 Loneliness and Isolation in Entrepreneurship10:00 Creating Safe Spaces for Honest Founder Conversations11:58 What Makes Businesses Truly Sustainable12:43 Lessons From Adapting to Technology and Disruption14:05 Staying Ahead of Change—Ignore AI at Your Peril14:57 Surviving Cancer—How It Changed Chris’s Business Approach16:13 Building Teams That Can Run Without You17:27 Don’t Wait to Enjoy Life Along the Way18:18 How Ironman Training Helped During Tough Times19:36 Seeing Setbacks as Blessings21:00 E + R = O—Choosing Your Response22:22 The Ups & Downs—An Uncomfortable Truth for Entrepreneurs23:09 Where to Find Chris and Connect23:39 Endnotes and How to Stay Connected
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How Discipline and Systems Build a Millionaire Service Business — Chris McManus | Ep 4
If you've ever wondered what it really takes to turn a trade skill into a thriving business, this episode is for you. Chris McManus shares his journey from mowing lawns fresh out of high school to running a multi-seven-figure landscaping, pools, and real estate business by age 26. You'll pick up candid advice on hiring, discipline, using AI for systems, and managing cash flow as you grow. We also get into when to delegate, stacking related businesses, and building long-term wealth with real estate. Plus, Chris opens up about the tough lessons learned along the way. Tune in for an honest window into scaling a service company from scratch.Connect With Chris McManusWebsite: https://gclandscapinginc.com/TikTok: GC Landscaping IncInstagram: GC Landscaping Inc / ChrisMcManus151Facebook: GC Landscaping IncIf Class of Business speaks to you, consider subscribing so you never miss an episode. And if you have a moment, leaving a review helps more people discover the conversations shared here. Your support truly means a lot.There's more to every story than what you hear on the episode. Join the Class of Business newsletter to receive thoughtful takeaways, episode extras, and personal notes that don't make it into the show. It's a quiet way to stay sharp between listens.Sign up here: https://classofbusiness.com/joinChapters00:00 Chris McManus: From High School Hustle to Scale00:40 Why Landscaping Right After Graduation01:15 No Plan B—Making It Work01:36 Early Projects and Mistakes02:14 Learning Customer Service the Hard Way03:14 Grind, Discipline, and Building a Name04:13 Breaking the Seven-Figure Barrier05:23 Delegation vs. Micromanagement05:34 Systems, SOPs, and Avoiding Overwhelm06:13 Using AI for Quick SOPs06:48 Real-World Systems: Morning Dispatch07:24 Addressing Service Quality with SOPs07:57 Start Small, Let It Snowball08:32 Evolving Systems as You Grow09:23 Implementation, Repetition, Creating Habit10:22 Focus on 1% Progress, Not Perfection11:03 Team Ownership and Upgrading SOPs12:06 Training Management to Think for Themselves13:27 Fostering a Culture Where It’s OK to Fail14:06 Cash Flow Pain as Revenue Grows15:17 Projecting Cash Flow and Payment Timelines17:22 Why You Need Access to Capital18:12 Expanding into Pools and Real Estate19:25 Real Estate for Long-Term Wealth20:58 Deciding When to Add Services22:01 Pools and Landscaping—Perfect Integration23:25 Vertical Integration and Owning the Pipeline23:31 Key Lessons and Your Next Steps24:48 Where to Follow Chris McManus25:46 Episode Wrap and Newsletter Invite
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How to Turn Content Into a Business Asset—Alan Lazaros | Ep 3
If you've ever wondered how top podcasters make the leap from content creation to real business growth, this episode is for you. CEO Alan Lazaros of Next Level University sits down to unpack the frameworks and lessons that've shaped his seven-figure education business and global podcast. You'll pick up tactical approaches like the “delete, delegate, double down” productivity method, learn how your client relationships shape your company culture, and hear what really turns visibility into revenue. We also get into fulfilling work, the balance between achievement and meaning, and how Alan thinks about building a community around actionable improvement. Tune in for insights you can apply in your own journey.Connect With Alan LazarosWebsite: https://nextleveluniverse.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/alazaros88/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelUniversityPodcast: Next Level University (available on all major platforms)If Class of Business speaks to you, consider subscribing so you never miss an episode. And if you have a moment, leaving a review helps more people discover the conversations shared here. Your support truly means a lot.There's more to every story than what you hear on the episode. Join the Class of Business newsletter to receive thoughtful takeaways, episode extras, and personal notes that don't make it into the show. It's a quiet way to stay sharp between listens.Sign up here: https://classofbusiness.com/joinChapters00:00 Meet Alan Lazaros—Scaling Education and Coaching00:30 What You Pay Attention to Shapes Your Future00:50 The First Business Lesson Alan Learned01:08 Who Are Your “Absolutely” People?01:30 High Humility, Work Ethic, Improvement Orientation01:59 The "Unmedzai" Framework for Fit02:41 Productivity Without Founder Burnout02:47 Alan’s Time Audit and Whiteboard Exercise03:29 The Scaling Formula—112 Waking Hours03:54 Invest in Your Primary Skill04:23 Delegate, Buy Back Time, and ROI05:05 When Delegation Doesn't Move the Company Forward05:49 Delete, Delegate, Double Down in Practice06:34 Making Sacrifices for Business Success07:03 From Labor to Leadership to Ownership07:16 What’s Your Venn Diagram for Meaningful Work?08:03 Are You Actually Good at It?08:30 Alan’s Content Business Model Breakdown09:13 Visibility vs. Revenue—Systems That Work09:32 Why Next Level University Isn’t Chasing Trends10:25 Facing Hard Truths, Not Just Affirmation11:02 The Three “4K TVs” for Growth12:04 Education and Outgrowing Old Patterns12:18 The Chessboard of Life—Awareness as Power13:03 Tying Together Story and Self-Discovery13:15 Honest Breakdown of the Podcast Business Model14:24 The Five-Layer Funnel to Revenue15:12 Book Club, Meetups, and Community Building16:11 From Free Value to Paid Clients17:53 The Importance of Mastery and Repetition18:47 Achievement vs. Fulfillment in Business19:21 The Mastery–Impact–Profitability Sequence20:21 Why Profit Comes Last20:53 Finding Your Passion, Purpose, and Profit21:05 Where to Find Alan and Next Level University21:40 Daily Improvement and Consistency22:33 Everyday Habits—Get Better, Not Just Affirmed23:05 Wrap Up—Take Action and Stay Connected
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How to Build Leaders from Within—Rich Ashton | Ep 2
If you've ever wondered how to hand over your small business without worrying it'll fall apart, this episode is for you. Serial entrepreneur and author Rich Ashton shares his journey of developing leadership talent inside his companies—including the struggles and lessons that shaped his approach. You'll pick up practical ways to create a values-driven culture, why promoting employees too soon can backfire, and how to truly train people for leadership roles. We also get into the nuts and bolts of accountability, employee empowerment, and the real differences between running a small business versus a big one. Plus, Rich walks through his process for writing and teaching the principles in his book. Don’t miss it if you want real-world insight on building teams that last.Connect With Rich AshtonWebsite: https://growingyourown.netLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rich-ashton-397a2b10/If Class of Business speaks to you, consider subscribing so you never miss an episode. And if you have a moment, leaving a review helps more people discover the conversations shared here. Your support truly means a lot.There's more to every story than what you hear on the episode. Join the Class of Business newsletter to receive thoughtful takeaways, episode extras, and personal notes that don't make it into the show. It's a quiet way to stay sharp between listens.Sign up here: https://classofbusiness.com/joinChapters00:00 Meet Rich Ashton—Entrepreneurial Beginnings00:42 Early Inspiration and Father’s Influence01:01 Lessons in Integrity and Customer Service01:33 Leaving to Start a Business01:58 Turning Around a Company on the Brink02:47 The Heart of Healthy Business Culture03:27 Empowering Employees for Retention04:34 Solving the Leadership Dilemma in Small Business05:11 Why Promoting Too Soon Fails06:14 Second Generation Business Challenges06:37 The Origin of “Breaking Through” Leadership Training07:08 Building Confidence in Blue Collar Leaders07:41 Accelerating Growth with Leadership Blogs08:44 Company Culture Takes Off—and a Book Is Born09:38 Turning Blogs into a Legacy Book10:37 Core Principles—Accountability and Extreme Ownership11:23 Proactivity and Intellectual Curiosity12:24 Leading Different People, Different Ways13:13 The Dangers of Promoting Unready Leaders13:47 Universal Leadership Lessons for Small Business14:47 How Owners Can Work on Their Leadership15:16 Making Culture Intentional and Actionable16:06 Connecting With Every Employee—Why It Matters17:58 Small vs. Big Business Leadership—What’s Different18:31 Managing Culture Drift in Larger Teams19:45 Small Business Means Wearing Many Hats20:33 Embracing Delegation and Letting Go21:05 The Realities of Delegating Projects22:53 “You Can’t Expect What You Don’t Inspect”23:45 Final Thoughts and Where to Connect24:27 Thanks for Listening and Next Steps
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Why This Podcast Exists: The Business Class You Should’ve Had Sooner | Ep 1
This episode breaks down exactly what Class of Business is, why it was created, and why it might be the most useful (and funniest) business podcast you’ve ever added to your playlist.No fluff. No guru energy. No unrealistic “wake up at 4 a.m.” expectations.Just clear, relatable explanations of how business actually works and why so many people feel lost when trying to build something.You’ll learn who the podcast is for, how it’s different from every other business show out there, and what to expect from every episode moving forward.If you’ve ever wished someone would just tell you the truth about entrepreneurship — plainly, honestly, and with a little humor — this is the episode that welcomes you home.9WpMBz21z2B8K4OzkPo1
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Welcome to Class of Business: Your New Favorite Business Podcast
Class of Business is the podcast that finally makes business make sense. No jargon, no pressure, no “rise and grind” guilt — just real lessons, funny stories, and practical insights for anyone building something from scratch.In this trailer, you’ll learn what the show is about, who it’s for, why it matters, and how it’s different from every stiff, corporate, overly-polished business podcast you’ve heard before.If you’re trying to grow a business, start a brand, launch an idea, or simply understand how the game really works… this is your class.Grab a seat. The semester is about to begin.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Class of Business is the show for anyone who wants to understand how modern business really works—without the jargon, the fluff, or the boring lectures. Each episode breaks down real strategies, real stories, and real challenges from founders, creators, and builders who are figuring it out in the real world.If you’re building a business, growing a brand, or trying to turn your ideas into something that pays the bills, this is your weekly masterclass. Straight talk. Sharp insights. Zero intimidation.Come learn the lessons nobody teaches but everyone needs.
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