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Alternate Shots with Richard Haass and John Ellis

The idea of the podcast is this: We talk about “three things” that are interesting, important or both. The third thing will be about something from the world of sports.Richard is a veteran diplomat (he served in the Carter, Reagan, G.H.W. Bush and G.W. Bush administrations). He was president of the Council on Foreign Relations for two decades (he’s now president emeritus). He’s a Senior Counselor at Center|View Partners, a prominent New York City-based investment banking firm. He also distributes a weekly newsletter — Home a

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    Bored of War: Episode 27

    John Ellis and Richard Haass discuss the latest on multiple wars, actual and political. They review the absence of good options for ending the war with Iran, noting that wars dont necessarily end when one side (in this case Donald Trump) has had enough.  The big question as the President heads to China is what he might be prepared to give up on Taiwan or chips to get Xi’s help with Iran or on trade. The surprising good news is how the tide of war is slowly but steadily turning against Vladimir Putin in his increasingly unsuccessful war of choice against Ukraine. Peace or at least a lasting ceasefire may be closer than many realize. Closer to home, the two look at the partisan wars in several states over redistricting, which for now seem to be favoring the Republicans but no matter what the result are sure to leave American politics more polarized and the political center losing out to the extremes.  Last but never least, Ellis and Haass turn to sports, in this case to celebrate the Knicks who are playing their best basketball of the year and who could well end up in the NBA finals if they manage to keep it up and stay healthy.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    More Stress than Strategy: Episode 26

    Alternate Shots returns with John Ellis and Richard Haass examining a geopolitical and domestic political landscape defined by drift. The crisis surrounding Iran and the Strait of Hormuz underscores a broader reality: deterrence is fraying, diplomacy is episodic, and the risk of miscalculation is rising. The United States faces narrowing options, caught between rising economic pressure, a lack of promising military options, and the absence of a coherent endgame. Beyond the Middle East, transatlantic relations continue to erode, as Europe questions both American reliability and judgment. At home, political fragmentation reflects a deeper institutional fatigue, raising doubts about the capacity of either party to address structural challenges, from technological disruption to economic insecurity. What emerges is a portrait of a system and a world under stress. Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Two Wars & A King: Episode 25

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass tackle two wars, a Royal visit, and the world of sports. The conversation starts with the Iranian proposal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and leave the nuclear issue for later, which the Trump administration appears to be resisting but Haass argues the US should run with. From there, they pivot to the war in Ukraine, where Kyiv’s battlefield resilience and drone innovation are quietly reshaping modern warfare and building opposition to Putin at home. They then wind their way to the limits of royal diplomacy during King Charles III’s visit to Washington and end with a discussion of the sub-two hour marathon and the post-NFL draft Giants. Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Cautious Optimism: Episode 24

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass navigate a tumultuous week where cautious optimism collided with geopolitical reality.  The conversation ranges from Iran and the fragile ceasefire in and around the Strait of Hormuz to electoral upheaval in Hungary.  The hosts also speak their minds on the attacks aged by both the president and vice president on Pope Leo. They end with the apparent demise of the Saudi-supported LIV golf tour and this coming week’s NFL draft, which will go a long ways toward determining the fate of the once great but recently humbled NY Giants.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Strait Talk Everywhere But the SitRoom: Episode 23

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass dissect a ceasefire that exists mostly on paper and a war that has created more problems than it has solved. The Strait of Hormuz has gone from highway to choke point, while what to do about Iran’s nuclear efforts and its support of proxies remains as much of a question as ever. Along the way, they critique a decision-making process dominated by a president that contains little in the way of process, expertise, or analysis. Fortunately, they end with their fearless and probably baseless predictions for this week’s Masters golf championship.  Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Losing the Battle, Winning the War: Episode 22

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, hosts John Ellis and Richard Haass dissect a familiar American illusion: that battlefield dominance equals strategic victory. Yes, Iran has taken a beating; but, as Haass notes, capability plus will still makes for a dangerous adversary. The conversation skewers the president’s speech which failed to articulate a strategy for what comes next. Meanwhile, Gulf allies fret, NATO frays into a polite fiction, and China quietly enjoys the distraction. The verdict: the U.S. may be winning the war it is fighting, but risks losing the one that matters. A classic case of measuring what’s measurable and missing what’s decisive. Plus a few thoughts on Cuba, Tiger Woods, and the Masters.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Strait Talk or Dire Straits: Episode 21

    War, markets, and maritime choke points collide in this brisk tour of a Middle East crisis that could empty gas tanks worldwide. John Ellis and Richard Haass unpack whether the U.S. has really clipped Iran’s wings or merely annoyed a country that can still turn the Strait of Hormuz into the world’s most expensive parking lot. They debate mines, drones, insurance panic, election math, and a White House strategy that may be improvising in real time. Along the way, Haass unveils his stark “we break it, you own it” doctrine for allies now stuck holding the bill. It is geopolitics as supply chain thriller, with a golf detour for recovery of morale. Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    It Takes Three to Tango: Episode 20

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass dissect the messy endgame of the US-Israeli war with Iran. They discuss leverage, informal and formal ceasefires, and strategy. The conversation explores whether and how Washington might end a conflict it started, given that Israel and Iran still have their own agendas. Haass explains why Iran’s biggest bargaining chip may be the Strait of Hormuz, where even the threat of disruption has sent oil markets into panic. The discussion widens to the geopolitical ripple effects: Russia and China quietly benefiting from U.S. distraction, Ukraine watching American weapons flow elsewhere, and the uncomfortable reality that a trillion-dollar Pentagon still struggles with the cheap drone warfare dominating modern battlefields. And as always the two find a way to pivot from geopolitics to golf, safely predicting that the favorite will win the Players Championship.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Missiles, Missteps, and Middle East Math: Episode 19

    In this week’s episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass dissect the widening conflict with Iran, asking the uncomfortable question: what exactly is the strategy? They debate the shaky logic behind Operation Epic Fury, the limits of American air-defense stockpiles, and why time may actually favor Tehran. Along the way, they examine how the war could boost Russia, drain resources needed for Ukraine, and rattle U.S. politics at home. The conclusion is sobering: wars of choice are easy to start, much harder to end, and the clock may already be ticking on Washington’s ability to control the outcome.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Tehran, Tariffs, Cartels, & Capacity: Episode 18

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass begin in Iran, where the Trump administration has assembled more military might than strategy.  From there, they unpack the recent Supreme Court decision on tariffs, making clear it will not lead to any clarity for the country’s trading partners. The conversation then moves south, where cartel violence potentially threatens both the United States and Mexico.  Closer to home, they examine the awkward but unavoidable topic of diminishing presidential capacity.  And last but not least, they somehow manage to end on a high note thanks to Olympic hockey.  Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    From Munich to Machine Learning: Episode 17

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass begin with the recent Munich Security Conference. A focus is Marco Rubio's speech, which was praised by some but did little to reassure on Ukraine or on US support for a democratic Europe.The conversation shifts to Asia, where Japan is undergoing a historic transformation in its national security posture, strengthening its defense and moving closer to Taiwan, much to China's dismay. Meanwhile, in North Korea, internal dynamics are drawing attention, particularly the emerging public profile of Kim Jong Un's daughter, which may signal new uncertainties over succession.Ellis and Haass also explore the impact of AI on the economy. AI is reshaping -- sooner than anticipated -- how companies operate, threatening traditional software models while opening new possibilities for efficiency and innovation, leading among other things to short-selling of software companies.As always, the episode concludes with the sports world: the remarkable comeback of golfer Anthony Kim, Collin Morikawa's victory at the AT&T, and the big news from the Olympics: the condom shortage in the host village.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    From the Middle East to the Midterms: Episode 16

    In episode 16 of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haassbegin with Iran and the critical question of how the U.S. defines “success” as well as the limits to what military force could accomplish. They then turn to the expiration of the New Start, the last remaining U.S.-Russians ams control pact, and the even bigger problem of horizontal proliferation—particularly if countries like South Korea and Japan begin doubting U.S. security guarantees. The discussion turns to concerns about the integrity of the upcoming U.S. midterm elections. Ellis and Haass examine the potential for voter suppression and inaccurate counts by the Trump administration, casting doubt on the willingness of Republicans in Congress to stand up for democratic stability. They also reflect on the decline of major media institutions in light of the massive firings at The Washington Post. The episode concludes with lighter fare: Super Bowl predictions along with explanations of why Ellis loves curling and Haass the biathlon.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode 15

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass begin with the muddled US response to upheaval in Iran, highlighting the lack of clarity as to both US objectives and the potential role of military force. Here at home, they examine Minneapolis and the larger issue of immigration policy, arguing that Democrats would be wise to find a middle ground between both borders and the administration's excessive deportations on one hand and between "Abolish ICE" and letting ICE run amok on the other. They then turn to the growing brain drain in the sciences and the federal work force that amounts to nothing less than national self-sabotage.  Finally, they call out the outrageous NFL Hall of Fame snub to Bill Belichick and, turning to golf, wonder if we are witnessing the end of the expensive LIV effort to compete with the PGA tour.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode 14

    In episode 14 of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass delve into the new "real estate doctrine" of American foreign policy, discussing the irrelevance of ownership in international relations, particularly in the context of Greenland. Haass critiques the U.S. shift from an approach to allies based on consent to one of coercion under the Trump administration, a shift that has raised fundamental concerns about America's reliability and intentions. The conversation also touches on the failure thus far of American policy toward Iran. The discussion discusses in detail the implications of Trump's speech at Davos, which among other things heightened concerns about his mental capacity and judgment. Haass for his part had nothing good to say about the Board of Peace initiative, be it its mission, membership, or funding model. The episode concludes with predictions and analysis of the upcoming NFL matchups, with the co-hosts agreeing on Seattle and going their separate ways on Denver and New England.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode 13

    In the newest episode of Alternate Shots, hosts John Ellis and Richard Haass dig into many of the most pressing issues around the world. Iran is experiencing widespread protests against a regime that has lost widespread support. The Trump administration needs to decide on its definition of success there and how to bring it about. Haass and Ellis go on to discuss how Venezuela is an example of where the U.S. opted for considerably less than regime change—and is encountering problems in bringing about stability and large-scale oil development. The two agree that Trump's outlandish approach to Greenland is equal parts unnecessary and counterproductive, while Cuba could be a case where regime changes comes less because of U.S. efforts than internal decay and collapse. Closer to home, the hosts predict the midterm elections may be manipulated to suppress voter turnout and alter voting outcomes in a year meant to celebrate American democracy. And as always, the two wrap up with sportsand the latest in college and pro football, a much-needed pressure valve to a heavy set of topics.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode 12

    In the year's first episode of Alternate Shots, hosts John Ellis and Richard Haass discuss the U.S. intervention in Venezuela: what led to it, why it is better understood as leadership rather than regime change, and why the US might well encounter difficulties down the road. They also discuss what it is likely to mean for oil prices, its implications for U.S. interests in the region, and why Russia and China might be happier with it all than their public comments suggest.  Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode 11

    In the latest episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass look back at 2025, focusing on a Trump foreign policy that is radically different from what we have known for 80 years, the resistance of the Military Industrial Legislative Complex to much needed military reform, an executive branch that dominates both the Congress and the Supreme Court, and the adverse impact of a host of policies, from immigration to defunding research, on innovation. The conversation also delves into the AI bubble that isn't, the changing media landscape, and on two women shaking up the world of sports.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Ten

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass discuss the recent National Security Strategy, highlighting a significant shift in U.S. foreign policy that has come to prioritize commercial interests and the Western Hemisphere over the balance of power in Europe and Asia, the rule of law, or traditional alliances. They delve into what is transpiring in and around Venezuela, and explore the implications of China's advances in fracking. The conversation also touches on President Trump's unsuccessful attempt in Pennsylvania to demonstrate he understands affordability concerns, the Biden administration's botched handling of immigration, and the controversial proposal for social media scrutiny of visitors to this country. The episode concludes as always with reflections on sports, in this case the return of a 44 year old grandfather to the NFL.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Nine

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass discuss flaws in the US approach to negotiating an end to the war between Russia and Ukraine on terms consistent with US interests, new doubts raised about U.S. foreign policy commitments to NATO and Taiwan, the complexities of attacking boats allegedly carrying drugs off Venezuela, and why we are spending our defense dollars in the wrong way. They also delve into the health of Donald Trump and the never-ending struggles of the New York Giants.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Eight

    In this episode of Alternate Shots, John Ellis and Richard Haass discuss the recent developments in U.S. foreign policy, particularly focusing on the controversial Ukraine peace plan. They explore the implications of the plan, the disarray within the U.S. administration, and the public's sentiment towards Ukraine. The conversation also touches on the aftermath of the Afghanistan withdrawal, rising tensions between China and Japan, and concludes with a light-hearted discussion about the New York Giants' future in sports.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Seven

    In this episode of "Alternate Shots," hosts John Ellis and Richard Haass dive into a range of pressing global issues and intriguing insights. John, the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters, and Richard, a seasoned expert in foreign relations, bring their unique perspectives to the table. They explore the complexities of U.S. military presence in the Caribbean, discussing its implications for Venezuela and the broader geopolitical landscape. The conversation shifts to Russia's ongoing conflict with Ukraine, examining the sustainability of Russia's war efforts and potential future scenarios.The hosts also tackle the topic of U.S. debt, drawing parallels to climate change as a slow-motion crisis that demands attention. They ponder the role of AI in economic growth and the potential for a "debt coalition of the willing" to address fiscal challenges. As the episode unfolds, John and Richard share their thoughts on the evolving media landscape, the rise of alternative voices, and the future of traditional news outlets.With a touch of humor and candid exchanges, they wrap up with a lighthearted discussion on sports, injuries, and the New York Giants' prospects. Tune in for a thought-provoking and engaging episode that navigates the intersections of politics, economics, and media.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Six

    In this new episode of 'Alternate Shots', Richard and John discuss the diplomatic twists and turns of the Ukraine "peace" negotiations, the "Donroe Doctrine" and Venezuela, financial "cockroaches", and the politics of the U.S. government shutdown and Congressional map redistricting. At the end, Richard yet again bemoans the sorry state of the New York Giants. At the very end, John and Richard marvel at Shohei Ohtani's performance in Game Four of the NLCS. Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Five

    John Ellis and Richard Haass discuss various pressing global issues, starting with the Middle East situation and the potential for a deal involving hostages and ceasefire in Gaza. They explore the political dynamics in Israel, the rise of right-wing politics in Europe, and the implications of AI-generated videos on political discourse. The discussion also touches on the declining trust in news media and the current government shutdown situation, concluding with heavy-hearted reflections on being a New York sports fan.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Four

    There was a famous rap song (at the time) entitled “Things That Make You Go Hmmmm”. That’s the general sentiment of this episode of “Alternate Shots”.Richard and John discussed (1) President Trump’s “unusual” speech to the General Assembly of the United Nations, (2) the shift in the president’s thinking about the Ukraine war, one of more than one since his election, (3) H-IB visas vs. China’s K-Visa, (4) a gloomy American electorate, (5) Mr. Trump’s continued hold over the GOP and his declining support amongst Independents, and (6) Daniel “Indiana” Jones, the former NY Giants QB, now flourishing as the QB for the Indiana Colts.Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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    Episode Three

    In Episode #3 of "Alternate Shots", John and Richard discuss five "stories" much in the news of late: (1) the active/passive Trump presidency, (2) the local election results from Rhine-Westphalia, Germany's largest state, (3) The murder of Charlie Kirk and the globalization of MAGA politics, (4) Charlie Kirk and the "youth vote" in the 2024 election, and (5) RFK Jr. vs. Big Pharma. John thinks and Richard suspects that Big Pharma will emerge victorious. Finally, Richard finds a silver lining (or two) in Sunday's crushing defeat of the New York Giants by the Dallas Cowboys.

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    Episode Two

    In the latest episode of Alternate Shots, hosts Richard Haass and John Ellis begin with a discussion of Richard’s new essay in Foreign Affairs, “A Palestinian State Would Be Good for Israel". It could also be a win for President Trump. Next up: Xi's anti-American gathering of world leaders in Beijing and the evident breach in U.S.-India relations. In the realm of geopolitics, the breach may be more important than the gathering. Part three: Judge Mehta's ruling on the DOJ's antitrust case against Google; good for Google, good for Apple and arguably what's best for the United States. Part four, the sports section, addresses three subjects: (1) The New York Giants, (2) Bethpage Black, the venue for the Ryder Cup, and (3) Bill Belichick's debut as coach of the UNC football team. All in 30 minutes. Well worth your time. 

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    Episode One

    On the inaugural episode of their podcast, Richard Haass and John Ellis discuss how a president might prepare for a summit, how President Trump flips that on its head, the results of the Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska, and what’s next for the war in Ukraine. They dig into broader geopolitical implications of resolving the Russia-Ukraine conflict, possible motivations of leaders on all sides, and global security prospects. Richard wonders why the United States suddenly looks toward a permanent peace, rather than a ceasefire, as previously had been indicated by U.S. leadership. John asks Richard to apply the logic of his book War of Necessity, War of Choice to the conflict at hand. They speculate as to Trump’s plummeting approval rating, in relation to the actions of D.C. leadership, and how, despite this, Trump continues dominating the U.S. political field. John shifts to an article in The New York Times reflecting a downward trend in registered voters committing to the Democratic party, and voices some skepticism on the report, given the recent success of Sherrod Brown; and yet, why does the Democratic party continue to lack substantive policy positions? John throws the voice-cloning technology of ElevenLabs into the ring of possible midterm influences.  The episode wraps up with a brief analysis of Jordan Spieth’s prospects for the Ryder Cup and a Gary Player anecdote on behalf of John. Hosted by John Ellis and Richard HaassNews Items on SubstackHome and Away on SubstackProduced by Dale Eisinger 

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The idea of the podcast is this: We talk about “three things” that are interesting, important or both. The third thing will be about something from the world of sports.Richard is a veteran diplomat (he served in the Carter, Reagan, G.H.W. Bush and G.W. Bush administrations). He was president of the Council on Foreign Relations for two decades (he’s now president emeritus). He’s a Senior Counselor at Center|View Partners, a prominent New York City-based investment banking firm. He also distributes a weekly newsletter — Home a

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