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Coastlines to Cranes

Coastlines to Cranes is your 15-minute midweek chaos cure, hosted by ABC San Diego CEO Shandon Harbour. She’s dishing out unfiltered takes on construction, politics, and apprentice glory—sprinkled with sass, laughs, and zero corporate snooze. Drops Wednesdays at 6 a.m. Buckle up (or don’t).

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    The Data Center Gold Rush: Why AI Runs on the Skilled Trades

    AI may live in the cloud, but it runs on construction. In this solo episode, Shandon breaks down the data center boom, what it means for San Diego and the Imperial Valley, and why the future of AI depends on electricians, plumbers, HVAC pros, low voltage technicians, and the skilled trades.Key TakeawaysData centers are driving major demand in construction.AI infrastructure depends on trained craft professionals.ABC San Diego helps contractors build workforce pipelines, compete, and grow.Resources: ABC San DiegoWant to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Advocating for Small Business Growth in San Diego with Chris Cate

    What does real support for small business growth in San Diego look like?Shandon talks with Chris Cate, President and CEO of the San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce, about why small and mid-sized businesses need stronger advocacy, better support, and a bigger seat at the table. From navigating regulation and rising costs to building a more connected pro-business community, this conversation is packed with insight for contractors, business owners, and leaders focused on growth. Key takeawaysWhy small and mid-sized businesses need policy that reflects real operational challengesHow the Chamber is expanding workshops, partnerships, and practical business resourcesWhat a stronger, more coordinated business voice could mean for San Diego’s futureResources: ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Connect with ChrisSmall Business Development Center (SBDC)Small Business Resources⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube

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    How Contractors Stay Competitive on Public Works with Corey Klinke

    In this episode, Shandon Harbour sits down with Corey Klinke, Executive Vice President of West Coast Group Benefits, to talk about why benefits matter more than many construction leaders realize.This conversation breaks down how a smart employee benefits strategy can help a contractor stay competitive, support retention, and navigate the real-world demands of public works. Corey explains how the ABC California Health Trust gives contractors access to stronger buying power, competitive health plan options, and support with prevailing wage, fringe benefits, and hour banking.For small and mid-sized contractors, this is not just about checking a box on insurance. It is about reducing payroll burden, improving workforce stability, and making better business decisions that support long-term growth. This episode also touches on rich plan design, family coverage, and why fair and open competition matters for contractors across the industry. Key takeawaysA health trust can give a contractor stronger buying power and access to more competitive benefits options. Prevailing wage, fringe strategy, and hour banking can directly affect whether a contractor can bid work profitably and stay competitive. Better benefits can help support workers, improve retention, and grow with more stability.Resources: ⁠ ⁠⁠Connect with Corey⁠View all our Member Benefits⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube

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    Growing a Construction Business Through Safety & Leadership with Marjorie Del Toro

    What if safety wasn’t just a requirement, but one of the smartest ways to grow a stronger construction business? In this episode, Shandon talks with Marjorie Del Toro of ehs International about leadership, compliance, and building a company that protects people while supporting long-term growth. Marjorie shares how her personal story shaped her mission, and why safety, smart delegation, and the right support systems can help small and mid-sized contractors stay competitive, build better teams, and create more stable operations. It’s a practical conversation for construction business owners who want to grow with purpose and lead well. Key TakeawaysSafety can support business growth, not just compliance.Delegation and outsourcing can help small contractors scale smarter.Strong leadership starts with serving your team and protecting your people. Resources: ⁠ ⁠Connect with MarjorieRead more about Marjorie's story⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube

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    Building a Business in a Specialized Trade with Jen Fulton

    In this episode, Shandon sits down with Jen Fulton from San Diego Backflow Testing to talk about what it really takes to build a business in a specialized trade. What started as an unexpected career pivot turned into a growing company, and Jen shares honest lessons on entrepreneurship, resilience, leadership, and long-term business development. This conversation is packed with value for small and mid-sized contractors, specialty trades, and construction business owners navigating growth, workforce pressure, and the everyday demands of running a company. Jen talks about building strong industry relationships, being intentional about where you invest your time, learning not to quit too early, and understanding what only you can do as a leader. She also offers a refreshing reminder that sustainable leadership starts with taking care of yourself so you actually have the energy to lead, grow, and serve your team well. Key takeaways:Grow through consistency: How relationships and smart visibility create momentumKnow your audience: Why being intentional about where you spend time mattersLead sustainably: A practical mindset on delegation, trust, and avoiding burnoutResources: ⁠ Connect with Jen⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube

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    From Coastlines to ABC 2026 Convention

    In this episode, Shandon brings you along if you were not able to attend ABC's 2026 Convention in Salt Lake City. She highlights the moments that stood out - from leadership lessons to meaningful connections, she breaks down how to turn a few days into real momentum for your business and your people. If you missed Convention this year, put it on your calendar for next year, Denver 2027! Listen in to hear the highlights.⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube

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    Why Leadership Is as Essential as Safety in Construction with Inez Odom

    In this episode of Coastlines to Cranes, Shandon Harbour sits down with Inez Robinson-Odom to talk about why leadership can no longer be treated like a soft skill in construction. From communication and workforce development to instructor training and retention, this conversation explores what it takes to build stronger teams and stronger companies in a changing industry. Inez shares practical insight for small and mid-sized contractors who are growing fast and trying to lead well while managing everything else. This episode touches on people-centered leadership, adult learning, coaching, and how to think differently about developing both field leaders and the next generation of talent, without giving away the full conversation.Key takeawaysWhy people-centered leadership is becoming essential in construction, not optionalHow communication, curiosity, and being understood can change team outcomesWhy workforce development also means investing in instructors, adult learning, and leadership toolsResources: ⁠Connect with InezPurchase The Silent Rebellion on Amazon⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube

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    Digital Marketing That Wins Work with Tanita Antonio

    In this episode, Tanita Antonio, Co-Founder and Director of Marketing at Tenacious Digital Marketing shares why marketing matters for small and mid-sized contractors. She breaks down why social media is more than just Facebook and LinkedIn, why viral content does not always turn into real business, and what contractors can do right now to build a stronger presence online and make it easier for customers to find and trust them.This conversation looks beyond posting trends and platform pressure to focus on what really matters: showing up where customers are already looking, building credibility online, and creating digital touchpoints that support your business. Tanita also shares practical first steps contractors can take, from cleaning up branding, bios, and links to building a strategy that fits the realities of day-to-day operations.Resources: Connect with Tanita⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠YouTube

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    Building Opportunity: Women in Construction with Marcella Garofalo

    In honor of Women in Construction Week, Shandon sits down with Marcella Garofalo, Director of Marketing at Lusardi Construction Co., to talk leadership in a male-dominated industry, why “getting involved” is career rocket fuel, and how community, associations, and service shape the construction world from the inside out.Key TakeawaysIf you want a bigger seat at the table, your first move is often outside your day job. Leadership is built by showing up, listening well, and contributing early. Networking is a skill, not a personality trait, and it can be learned.Resources: Connect with Marcella Garofalo⁠⁠Learn more about SMPS San Diego⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠YouTube

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    The Construction Finance Playbook with Valerie McGuire

    Valerie McGuire (Controller at Pacific Rim Mechanical, CCIFP, CPA) joins Shandon Harbour to talk construction finance the way it actually happens: pressure, deadlines, tough calls, and the ripple effects on crews, subs, and customers.Valerie has lived on both sides of the business. She shares how her path moved from running work to running numbers, and how tough market shifts shaped the way she thinks about decisions, leadership, and protecting relationships.She walks through how she thinks about runway, what metrics matter when the market shifts, and why “penciling it out” beats guessing every time. She also breaks down what the CCIFP credential is really about, why she went back for her CPA, and how her role in ABC San Diego’s training trust keeps her connected to the people behind the work: apprentices, instructors, and craft pride.If you’ve ever wanted a clearer, calmer way to approach financial decisions in construction, this episode is a practical listen.Listen, subscribe, and share with a contractor, PM, or finance lead who’s trying to run a tighter, smarter operation.Resources: Connect with ⁠Valerie McGuire⁠ABC San Diego Events Calendar⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠YouTube

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    Networking That Builds Real Connections with Jennifer Hopper

    If you’ve ever walked into an industry event and wondered what to say (or how to make it worth your time), this episode is for you.Jennifer Hopper, Community Affairs Manager at ABC San Diego, breaks down what her role really does for members: building relationships in the community, creating connections that matter, and helping the merit shop story get heard in a way that lands.Jennifer shares a simple approach to networking that doesn’t feel salesy, including how to start conversations, how to handle “big titles” without getting in your head, and the one move that makes people remember you fast: becoming the connector. She also touches on how she talks about merit shop apprenticeship and workforce opportunity when the conversation gets political, without turning it into a debate.You’ll get:Easy ways to start conversations without sounding salesy.The “connector” strategy that builds your network fast and naturally.How ABCSD shares the merit shop apprenticeship message through people-first stories, not debates.Resources: Connect with Jennifer Hopper⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and YouTube

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    Real Stories from the Field: Fentanyl's Impact on Construction with Terri & Ernie

    Shandon welcomes Terri from the CDC Foundation and Ernie from the San Diego-Imperial HIDTA to unpack why construction is getting hit so hard by fentanyl, from injuries and opioid exposure to counterfeit pills that look like “normal” meds. They share real local impact, including two deaths at a Coronado residential site and the story of Connor Gerhart, then lay out what employers can do now, especially making naloxone available and changing culture so people can speak up and get help.Related listen: If you want the step-by-step “what to do on the jobsite” playbook, go back to our Fentanyl on the Jobsite (Part 1 & Part 2) with Bill Perno.Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Contractor Tax Moves That Matter with Chad Fischer

    Shandon sits down with Chad Fischer to break down the money moves that matter for contractors, without the accounting fog. Get practical insights on how to lower taxable income, stay compliant in California, and keep your numbers looking strong for banking and bonding. Chad, Senior Tax Manager at Aldrich CPAs + Advisors, also touches on the One Big Beautiful Bill Act so you can understand what could impact your tax strategy and what likely won’t.Resources: Connect with Chad Fischer, CPA | Aldrich AdvisorsWant to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Fentanyl on the Jobsite with Bill Perno: Part 2

    This is Part 2 of our Fentanyl on the Jobsite series with Bill Perno (SAY San Diego). If you missed Part 1, start there for what fentanyl is, why it’s so dangerous, and the key overdose warning signs. In this episode, the focus shifts to what to do when it’s real and it’s happening. Bill walks through response steps, unpacks California law as it relates to overdose situations, and explains Narcan (naloxone), including what it can and cannot do. You’ll also hear additional drug stats that put the scope of the issue into sharp focus.What you’ll get out of Part 2Simple overdose response stepsClarity on the California lawNarcan basics, plus its limitsFind the resources for this episode here: ⁠abcsd.org/fentanyl-on-the-jobsite-resources/⁠Learn more about SAY San Diego: ⁠saysandiego.org⁠Want to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠⁠⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠⁠

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    Fentanyl on the Jobsite with Bill Perno: Part 1

    This is Part 1 of our two-part series, Fentanyl on the Jobsite. Today, Shandon Harbour talks with Bill Perno (retired deputy sheriff and senior prevention specialist with SAY San Diego) about what fentanyl is, why it’s so dangerous, and how it’s showing up in the construction world.Part 2 airs next week, covering how to respond step-by-step, California law, Narcan (naloxone) plus its limitations, and additional drug stats that put the scope into perspective.Find the resources for this episode here: abcsd.org/fentanyl-on-the-jobsite-resources/Learn more about SAY San Diego: saysandiego.orgWant to ask Shandon anything? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠Be a guest: ⁠⁠Submit Here!⁠⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠⁠

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    More Than Another Insurance Renewal: Building Trust with Matt Gorham

    What if insurance felt less like paperwork and more like a power tool? In this episode, Shandon sits down with Matt Gorham of Rancho Mesa Insurance to talk about building real trust and turning insurance into a business asset, not a once-a-year headache. Matt shares how a contractor-first approach, trade-specific knowledge, and proactive planning can help you protect your people, your projects, and your peace of mind.They also explore how safety culture strengthens your story long before a claim ever happens, plus the tools and resources that help contractors stay ready and resilient. The big idea: when trust leads the conversation, insurance stops being a checkbox and starts supporting the way you build.Learn more about Matt + Rancho Mesa Insurance: ranchomesa.com/matt-gorhamWant to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠,⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For a guest feature: ⁠Submit Here!⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠⁠

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    Delegation is Leadership - At Work and at the Christmas Table

    As the year winds down and the holidays approach, Shandon reflects on one of her biggest leadership lessons of the year: delegation. Through candid stories from professional 360 reviews, an end-of-year team celebration, and holiday traditions at home, this episode explores the shift from control to trust—and from delegation as task-offloading to delegation as invitation. Whether leading a team, a project, or a family gathering, Shandon reminds us that when we invite others in, we don’t lose control—we build connection, confidence, and culture. Leadership isn’t about doing it all—it’s about trusting others, sharing ownership, and building something meaningful together.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠,⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For a guest feature: ⁠Submit Here!⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠⁠

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    The Power of Purple

    In this uplifting episode of Coastlines to Cranes, host Shandon Harbour shares the fun and unexpected origin story of Purple Wednesdays — a simple tradition that began in her family business and now brings camaraderie, positivity, and mid-week sparkle to ABC San Diego. Discover how one lavender shirt turned into a culture-builder, how the tradition spread organically across departments, and why small rituals can transform the workplace. Tune in for a warm reminder that fun is part of strong leadership — and that a little purple goes a long way.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠X⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Facebook⁠⁠,⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For a guest feature: ⁠Submit Here!⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠⁠

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    From One Chair to the Next: Building on a Legacy of Leadership with Scott Uren and Steven Cabaj

    In this special episode, Shandon welcomes Scott Uren, outgoing Chair of ABC San Diego, and Steven Cabaj, incoming Chair, for a candid conversation about leadership transitions, teamwork, and the vision that drives the construction industry forward. Together, they reflect on how they started their own businesses, lessons learned, guiding the chapter through growth and change, and what’s next for ABC San Diego as it continues to champion merit-shop values and workforce development.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠For a guest feature: Submit Here!Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠

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    Serious About Safety feat. Corey Crosby

    When a back injury shifted his career, Corey Crosby discovered his calling: helping others stay safe on the job and get home to their families.Now, as Director of Safety at Teague Insurance Agency and ABCSD’s incoming Safety Committee Chair, Corey brings passion, field wisdom, and compassion to every conversation.In this episode, Shandon and Corey talk about what it takes to build a safety culture that goes beyond rules and regulations. From lessons learned in the field to leadership that puts people first, Corey shares how he’s turning “safety meetings” into something everyone actually wants to be part of.Keep up with Teague Insurance and their latest updates at teagueins.com⁠.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠For a guest feature: Submit Here!Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠

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    The Power of the Post: From Field Notes to Smart Documentation with Peter Lasensky

    In this practical and energizing conversation, Shandon welcomes Peter Lasensky, founder of Command Post, to talk about one of construction’s most persistent pain points – missing documentation and forgotten change orders. Peter’s passion for helping contractors stay organized and protected led him to create an app that makes jobsite documentation fast, intuitive, and reliable.Together, they discuss the real-world consequences of poor documentation, how technology can bridge the gap between field and office, and why small changes in process can lead to big gains in profitability and peace of mind.Learn more about Command Post at commandpost.aiWant to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠⁠, ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For a guest feature: ⁠Submit Here!⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠⁠⁠ 

  22. 17

    The Strategy Spark: Turning Mission into Momentum with Deirdre Maloney

    In this episode, Shandon sits down (on video too!) with Deirdre Maloney, founder of Make Momentum, Inc. and author of The Mission Myth and other acclaimed works, to talk about what truly drives results in business and nonprofit leadership.Together, they unpack the myths that hold organizations back, the clarity that comes from a solid strategic plan, and how to move from lofty mission statements to measurable impact.With stories from the field, practical insights, and plenty of laughs along the way, this conversation reminds leaders that momentum doesn’t happen by accident—it’s built through alignment, accountability, and a plan that actually works.Takeaways:Strategy isn’t fluff — it’s how you stay ahead of changePassion drives success, but discipline keeps it on trackFocused teams outperform distracted onesLearn more about Deirdre and her work at MakeMomentum.com.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, Facebook⁠, LinkedIn⁠⁠For a guest feature: Submit Here!Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠Membership - ABC San Diego⁠⁠ 

  23. 16

    Character Building: The Stories that Shape Us with Earl The Pearl

    In this powerful episode of Coastlines to Cranes, Shandon sits down with her husband, Earl “The Pearl,” a Marine fighter pilot and leader who’s lived through more than a few “character-building days.”From the flight line to the job site, Earl shares stories of grit, loss, and leadership, how true character is forged in the hardest moments. Together, they explore what it means to lead with resilience, build a culture of camaraderie, and show up for your team when it matters most.Takeaways:Why adversity is the ultimate training ground for growthHow small acts of leadership can change a lifeThe importance of camaraderie and loyalty in every workplaceWant to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠⁠  Listen on ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠Listen on ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠, LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  24. 15

    From Coastlines to Champions

    In this special Coastlines to Champions episode, Shandon cranks up the spotlight on the Craft Champions who are bringing the heat at the November 1st showdown. These aren’t your average jobsite stories - this is where grit meets glory. Hear how they joined the apprenticeship program and how they are getting ready for the big day. Listen in to the real deal - because craftsmanship doesn’t just build things, it builds champions.Hard hats on, headphones in. Let’s build some buzz.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠⁠⁠  Listen on ⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠Listen on ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  25. 14

    Courageous Conversations with Lisa Norquist

    What does it really take to lead with courage? In this episode, Lisa Norquist of Grey Monkey Group joins Shandon to unpack how vulnerability, open dialogue, and trust can reshape leadership in construction. Lisa shares practical strategies for creating psychological safety, improving communication, and strengthening retention, from handling tough feedback to fostering a culture where people feel safe to speak up. If you’re ready to lead with more confidence, compassion, and clarity, this episode is for you.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠⁠  Listen on ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠Listen on ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠,⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  26. 13

    Building Smarter with SmartBuild

    From coastlines to construction sites, innovation is reshaping how we build. In this episode, Shandon sits down with Rowan Steelhall, COO of SmartBuild, to talk about the technology empowering small and mid-sized contractors. Rowan explains how SmartBuild is helping teams simplify project management, streamline paperwork with AI, and make cutting-edge tools accessible.They also explore what AI really means for the construction industry: how it’s already woven into daily life, why it’s not here to replace people, and how businesses can start embracing it now instead of being left behind.Learn more about SmartBuild: SmrtBld.comConnect with Rowan: LinkedInWant to chat with Shandon? Connect on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠⁠  Listen on ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠Listen on ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠, ⁠⁠X⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠,⁠⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  27. 12

    Why Gen Z is Choosing the Trades

    In this episode of Coastlines to Cranes, Shandon explores the generational shift reshaping the future of the workforce - how Gen Z is increasingly choosing the trades over traditional college paths. From the lasting impact of the COVID-19 pandemic to the rising cost of living and a growing unwillingness to take on burdensome student loan debt, young people are rethinking what success looks like. Shandon also shares the inspiring story of an apprentice who made a complete career pivot into the trades, finding not only professional success but also deep personal fulfillment. It’s a conversation that reveals why the trades are more relevant - and rewarding - than ever.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  28. 11

    Why Culture Matters in Construction and How to Build It

    In this episode of Coastlines to Cranes, your host, Shandon Harbour, explores why culture may be the most important thing you can build in construction. Beyond paychecks and projects, culture drives retention, safety, and pride, shaping how teams work together and what they pass on to the next generation. Shandon also shares practical ways to strengthen culture on the jobsite, from celebrating wins to leading by example.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  29. 10

    Building Stronger Minds: Mental Health in Construction

    This week on Coastlines to Cranes, Shandon Harbour opens up a conversation about one of the toughest challenges in our industry - mental health. From long hours and physical strain to the unspoken pressure to “be tough,” construction workers face unique struggles that can take a real toll. Shandon explores why breaking the stigma matters, the human cost of silence, and how programs like VitalCog are giving apprentices tools for resilience and support that extend far beyond the jobsite. This is a reminder that protecting our minds is just as important as protecting our bodies - and that wellness is strength, not weakness. Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  30. 9

    From Y2K to AI: Fear, Facts & the Future of Work

    At the turn of the millennium, people feared Y2K would knock out banks, planes, and power grids. Today, headlines warn that artificial intelligence is coming for our jobs. But what’s the truth behind the fear?In this episode of Coastlines to Cranes, Shandon Harbour takes us on a journey from the Y2K scare to the AI boom - two moments that sparked panic before understanding. She unpacks the real lessons we learned from Y2K, what AI means for the future of construction, and why the human element will always be at the heart of the construction industry.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  31. 8

    What Politicians Get Completely Wrong About Our Industry

    In this episode of Coastlines to Cranes, Shandon pulls back the curtain on what many politicians don’t understand about our industry. She explains what a Project Labor Agreement (PLA) is, why it matters, and how these agreements can impact the future of construction in our state. Shandon also highlights the incredible benefits of the merit shop model and why ABC’s political involvement is crucial to protecting opportunities for apprentices, tradespeople, and their families. Without strong representation, the livelihoods of those building our communities could be at risk — and this conversation sheds light on why the stakes are so high.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  32. 7

    Why Labor Day Matters, Especially to ABC San Diego

    This week on Coastlines to Cranes, we dive into the history and meaning behind Labor Day — from its roots in the American labor movement to why it remains a vital celebration of hard work and progress today. We’ll explore how ABC’s Apprenticeship Program continues that legacy by preparing the next generation of skilled professionals, strengthening our workforce, and honoring the spirit of those who built the path before us. Whether you’re in the trades, training for a career, or simply curious about the story behind the holiday, this episode will leave you inspired to celebrate Labor Day with purpose.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  33. 6

    Flip-Flops, Hard Hats, and Family Trips: Our Summer Recap

    Summer may be winding down, but the momentum is just heating up. In this episode, Shandon reflects on what makes summer so special, not just for vacations, but for getting things done. She shares a personal story from a recent family trip (yes, there’s a difference between a trip and a vacation), breaks down why summer is her favorite season for making progress, and gives a heartfelt shoutout to the ABC Training Trust team for helping launch a powerful new semester. From sunscreen to strategy, it’s a thoughtful and lighthearted wrap-up to a season of growth.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  34. 5

    The Cowbell Was Born in the Marines?! Earl “The Pearl” Tells All

    What does a decorated Marine pilot have in common with the chaos of a jobsite? More than you think.This week, Shandon sits down with her first guest and husband—Earl “The Pearl” Wederbrook—for an unforgettable conversation about how the Cowbell actually originated in the Marines and why construction and the military are more alike than not. It’s part cowbell, part love story, part leadership masterclass.Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

  35. 4

    More Cowbell: Why a Cowbell Is the Most Powerful Tool in Construction (Yes, Really)

    We’ve got a fever—and the only prescription is... more cowbell. In this episode, Shandon takes you on a wild ride through the history of ABC San Diego’s most iconic noisemaker: the infamous Cowbell. From its stolen origins to the turf wars with other ABC chapters who dared try to steal it (literally), this episode hits all the notes—comedy, chaos, and construction pride.Learn more about the cowbell: ⁠Cowbell Challenge - FreeEnterprise AllianceWant to connect with Shandon? Connect on LinkedInInterested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? Membership - ABCSan Diego  Listen on AppleListen on Spotify Follow ABC San Diego on Instagram, X, Facebook, LinkedIn⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠

  36. 3

    Wait… We Have a Podcast Now?

    That's right! We launched a podcast like everyone else. Coastlines to Cranes is your 15-minute midweek chaos cure, hosted by ABC San Diego CEO Shandon Harbour. She’s dishing out unfiltered takes on construction, politics, and apprentice glory - sprinkled with sass, laughs, and zero corporate snooze. Drops Wednesdays at 6 a.m. Buckle up (or don’t).Want to connect with Shandon? Connect on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Interested in becoming a member of ABC San Diego? ⁠Membership - ABCSan Diego⁠  Listen on ⁠Apple⁠Listen on ⁠Spotify⁠ Follow ABC San Diego on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠For sponsors or guest features⁠⁠

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Coastlines to Cranes is your 15-minute midweek chaos cure, hosted by ABC San Diego CEO Shandon Harbour. She’s dishing out unfiltered takes on construction, politics, and apprentice glory—sprinkled with sass, laughs, and zero corporate snooze. Drops Wednesdays at 6 a.m. Buckle up (or don’t).

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