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Community, Health and Capital @ 19 Hills
by Dr Jonny Currie
A podcast series exploring new approaches to primary care, public health and public service delivery, supporting the 19 Hills Wellbeing Centre and community activities in Ringland, a small area in the east of Newport in south east Wales. We talk to colleagues and partners around the UK and beyond on how shifting to prevention, prioritising action on the Social Determinants of health and community-owned models of service delivery could change lives - and give staff a better job and purpose.
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Why healthcare spending isn't always patient-centred or value-driven, and what we do about it, with Professor Sally Lewis (GP, health policy expert and author)
Let us know what you think of the showWelcome back to another episode of the Community, Health and Capital podcast with Dr Jonny Currie, NHS GP and Co-Director of 19 Hills CIC. Joining us in this episode is Professor Sally Lewis, GP, former National Clinical Director for Value-Based and Prudent Healthcare in NHS Wales, founder of the internationally recognised Welsh Value in Health Centre and author of a new book, Implementing Value-Based Healthcare: an Insider's Guide to improving patient outcomes and creating sustainable systems. Sally walks us through how she went from GP in an area of deprivation in south Wales to advocating across the NHS in Wales and Welsh Government to make healthcare planning and spending more based on data about what is working well, around how patients and the public feel their treatment is working and based on financial value. Sally shares how surprised patient associations and groups are when they learn this is isn't always the case, while describing some insights from other countries she has worked in in recent years.Sally's book is available at https://kintsugi-international.com/book and you can contact her at [email protected] if you are interested in how her organisation, Kintsugi International can help you achieve excellence in value-based healthcare.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Holistic approaches and the power of the gut with Dr Lisa, Lifestyle Medicine GP
Let us know what you think of the showWelcome back to another episode of the Community, Health and Capital podcast with Jonny Currie and Matt Thorne, NHS primary care clinicians and Co-Directors of 19 Hills CIC. Joining us in this episode is Dr Lisa, Newport GP, specialist lifestyle medicine doctor, (new!) author and creator of Revive Prescribed, an online platform promoting holistic and patient-led approaches to improving health.Recorded at a venue kindly provided by Dan Harris, Managing Director of Focus Shift Films and member/creative lead on our 19 Hills Partnership Board, we speak to Lisa about her journey into lifestyle medicine, starting with some personal events in the health of her family, and how these experienced shaped her response while leading a COVID-19 field hospital in the early phase of the pandemic.Lisa berates those who claim lifestyle or wellness approaches have no place in areas of greater deprivation, describing some of the many impacts she has had, going on to talk about her Calm Belly method for people with Irritable Bowel Syndrome and lots of the emerging science coming out about the gut microbiome and how this could be transferred into practice.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Investing in #TechforGood with Paul Miller, Managing Partner and CEO, Bethnal Green Ventures
Let us know what you think of the showJoining us in this episode is Paul Miller, Managing Partner and Chief Executive Officer at Bethnal Green Ventures (BGV). BGV started in 2012, with social innovation camps aiming to bring together people at the sharp end of social and environmental challenges with some of the best tech talent in the UK.The founders drew on learning from the success of accelerator programmes in the US and started with the idea of Europe's first 'tech for good' accelerator programme.The group have since 2012 raised over £50M from investors which they continue to put into a rolling programme, offering £60,000 investment to handpicked projects who receive 6 weeks mentoring and wider support.Hear about how the programme has grown, what has motivated companies to invest, whether well-intentioned tech can mitigate the sometimes harmful impacts of other technologies and how interested listeners can apply.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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How organisations can work to secure kids' rights to play and outdoor spaces with Marianne Mannello from Play Wales
Let us know what you think of the showJoin us for our latest episode this time with Marianne Mannello, Assistant Director at Play Wales, a charity championing/promoting/advocating for children’s needs and rights to play. We talk about how outdoor play has changed in Wales and other countries over time, the different factors that can affect children's ability to play freely outdoors and how organisations can work together to help secure children’s right to a quality, safe and free space for the betterment of their creativity and development.ResourcesEnglishhttps://play.waleshttps://playfulchildhoods.walesWelshhttps://chwarae.cymruhttps://plentyndodchwareus.cymruGet in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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NHS Hack Day - connecting tech and public service leaders - with Dr Anne Marie Cunningham
Let us know what you think of the showIn this episode we speak with Dr Anne Marie Cunningham, GP, former Associate Medical Director at Digital Health and Care Wales and now GP Advisor at the Department of Health in Northern Ireland. Anne Marie talks to us about the NHS Hack Day coming up 1st-2nd March in Cardiff, how such events can build greater common understanding between NHS staff and the tech industry, while meanwhile generating support for new ideas for how #TechForGood can create new opportunities in innovation across the public sector in general.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Finding radical, trauma-informed and inclusive approaches to health with Dr Karen Sankey, #TheHolisticMedic
Let us know what you think of the showJoin us for our latest episode this time with Dr Karen Sankey (#TheHolisticMedic), GP and therapeutic coach. Dr Sankey set up Community Wellness CIC, a social enterprise designed to enable people marginalised by mainstream service approaches to find new approaches to wellbeing that respect acceptance, compassion, creativity and shared knowledge.Dr Sankey shares her insights into the challenges facing those creating new approaches outside of the status quo, and how her work has aided practitioners, service users and community networks around them to better understand trauma, adversity and resilience.#CommunityWellnessCIC is currently calling for support for a financial appeal - which you can see more about at https://community-wellness.co.uk/urgent-appeal. If you might be interested in workshops, coaching, mentoring or other support from Dr Sankey, further info is at https://theholisticmedic.com.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Engaging, developing, or organising with communities? Talking 'People before Programme' with Citizen UK's Tim Hall
Let us know what you think of the showThis episode introduces Dr Tim Hall, former academic lecturer, now Academic in Residence for Citizens UK, a network of groups and institutions apply a Community Organising approach to bring communities together to inspire and create change. The organisation has a long history of campaigning, but aims to do so through respectfully by strengthening relationships between those in positions of power and community members.Tim talks to us about some of the subtle but important differences between community engagement and community organising, and how this has been started to be applied in the health sector across the UK.If you'd like to know more about Citizens UK you can visit their website at https://www.citizensuk.org including finding out if there is a chapter near you.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Creating a Patient-led revolution in healthcare with Susannah Fox, author of Rebel Health
Let us know what you think of the showThis episode we welcomed Susannah Fox, author of Rebel Health and former Chief Technology Officer for the United States Department of Health and Human Services. Susannah walks us through why she chose to write a book about the need for more community- and patient-orientated healthcare innovation, but how such an approach could transform both the outcomes of how care is delivered but also the approaches we might take instead to addressing health problems.If you would like to find out more about Susannah and her recently published book, visit https://susannahfox.com/rebel-health, visit her LinkedIn, Youtube or X profile.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Primary Care as a place of sanctuary for migrant groups: introducing Lizzie, Makeda and Mohammed from the Cardiff Refugee Project
Let us know what you think of the showFor our 10th episode we welcome Lizzie O'Brien, Makeda Kingue and Mohammed Quhill, current and former students of Cardiff Medical School all involved with Cardiff Refugee Health Project. The group talk about their work with Doctors of the World UK promoting the Safe Surgeries toolkit, designed to support primary care services in meeting NHS guidance on registration and access policies, particularly for certain population groups that are at risk of discrimination and unfair treatment.If you would like to find out more about the Cardiff Refugee Health Project, visit their LinkedIn or X pages. Information about the Safe Surgeries toolkit is available at https://www.doctorsoftheworld.org.uk/safesurgeries/safe-surgeries-toolkit. Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Disclaimer for Disney/Lucasfilm - the Chewies we're discussing today aren't one of yours
Let us know what you think of the showIn our 9th episode we talk to Dr Connie Junghans, GP in Westminster, London, Senior Clinical Fellow at Imperial College London and Clinical Lead for the Community Health and Wellbeing Workers (CHWWs - hence the bad Star Wars joke...) programme in West London. Connie talks to us about how they've implemented this model of proactive and comprehensive programme in Westminster involving teams of workers visiting around 120 households several times a year to address unmet health and social needs.The programme has the support of the National Association for Primary Care, NHS England's Professor Bola Owolabi and seems to be expanding into new areas each year across the UK - and with only £300 million estimated to fund the workers in the areas in greatest need across the UK, begs question if this should be a new feature in primary care planning.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Increasing action on social determinants of health in primary care with Dr Selva Selvarajah, GP at Bromley-by-Bow
Let us know what you think of the showJoin us for our 8th episode as we speak with Dr Selva Selvarajah, a GP Partner at St Andrews Health Centre at the infamous Bromley-by-Bow Health Centre in Tower Hamlets, east London. Selva narrates a brief history of how Bromley-by-Bow grew from its roots as a community-led social action organisation into one delivering primary healthcare, but with a radically different approach. Selva talks to us about recent developments at Bromley-by-Bow including how the NHS is commissioning their organisation to deliver more preventative, 'population health' activity in the community and how action on the social determinants (money, housing, work and more) is becoming a routine part of the care they provide to people with long-term conditions. Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Integrating primary care, health and community services at a neighbourhood level with Pippa Britton OBE
Let us know what you think of the showIn this episode we speak with Pippa Britton OBE, Vice Chair of the Board of Aneurin Bevan University Health Board, Vice Chair of Sport Wales and double Paralympian for Great Britain. Pippa speaks about what integration of services could mean at a neighbourhood level and what effects this might have on experiences of care for service users, as well as the potential benefits of community involvement and a more holistic focus beyond people's medical needs in a consultation.Pippa has considerable experience working with and influencing boards of various sporting organisations in the UK and is also a certified coach and mentor. She has a particular interest in diversity and inclusion and good governance which we touch on during the podcast of how we can consider such perspectives when we plan new centres and services.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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International health partnerships and frugal innovation with Dr Matt Harris
Let us know what you think of the showIn this episode we speak with Dr Matt Harris, Clinical Senior Lecturer in Public Health at Imperial College London, on how working overseas in low- and middle-income countries changed his perspective and practice and how such experiences, including in a partnership arrangement, could share learning, improve services and build solidarity between the UK and other countries. Matt published a book in 2023 on Decolonizing Healthcare Innovation, setting out how the UK could address many health challenges if it adopted a more humble and proactive approach to learning from work in other contexts. We talk about how partnerships between Wales and the UK could be developed with partners abroad, how this can benefit services back in the UK and some practical steps to bringing this to life.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Promoting public and community involvement in healthcare with Professor Jennie Popay
Let us know what you think of the showIn this episode we speak with Professor Jennie Popay, Professor of Sociology and Public Health at Lancaster University on why and how communities of interest or of place can, and should, be involved in the planning and evaluation of health services.Jennie leads us on a path of understanding the history of public involvement in the NHS, her experiences of influencing this at a national level, and alongside sets out some practical steps for how the collective expertise and wisdom of communities and service users can enrich the services that are delivered by local healthcare organisations.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Developing health service and training pathways for health equity in Ireland with Dr Austin O'Carroll
Let us know what you think of the showIn this 4th podcast episode of the series we interview Austin O'Carroll, an inner city GP in Dublin since 1997, founder of Safety Net Ireland, a charity working to improve healthcare access for people who are homeless, and co-founder of the North Dublin City GP Training programme aiming to recruit and train GPs to practice inner-city medicine.Listen to the episode for how flexible access arrangements, a social model for health and patient empowerment (and more) could help us better tackle health inequalities through local services.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Community Development and Organising with Action in Caerau and Ely (ACE)'s Dave Horton, former Co-Director and Learning & Training Director
Let us know what you think of the showIn our 3rd episode of the series we interview Dave Horton, former Co-Director of ACE (Action in Caerau and Ely - www.aceplace.org) on the story of how a small community-based organisation in the west of Cardiff has grown in size and impact through its application of an Asset-Based Community Development approach, synthesising principles also from Community Organising, to work with local residents to build connections, social capital, pride and belonging in the area and wider impacts on the determinants of health and wellbeing.Dave is available to mentor, coach and support partner organisations and can be contacted via [email protected] in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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Baby and Me in Newport with Mark Carter from Barnardos - a proactive, trauma-informed model to transform outcomes for parents and children
Let us know what you think of the showThis 2nd episode of the Community, Health and Capital series interviews Mark Carter, a former social worker now Assistant Director for Children's Services at Barnardos covering south east Wales. Mark describes Baby and Me - a collaboration between local services and the third sector in Newport supporting parents expecting a baby who agencies are concerned are at risk of requiring statutory social services support, describing the benefits of collaboration between agencies, holistic and trauma-informed support, a proactive approach rather than waiting for issues to develop.Follow us at twitter.com/com_health_cap or get in touch via jonny.currie(at)wales.nhs.uk with any comments, questions or feedback.Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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The power of listening and relationships: interview with Dr Mark Spencer, GP and co-founder, Healthier Fleetwood
Let us know what you think of the showThis 1st episode of the Community, Health and Capital series interviews Dr Mark Spencer, a GP in Fleetwood in Lancashire. Mark talks through his career as a GP and how an encounter with a young man suffering from alcohol problems changed the way Mark thought about what value primary care and integrated services could bring to a community.After repeated and sustained engagement with residents of the area, Healthier Fleetwood, a "social movement" powered by residents to steer what opportunities and services are created in the area, was born. Mark describes how powerful this new approach has been to his own passion for general practice, to recruitment, and of course to community residents themselves. Get in touch via [email protected] if you have any feedback or would like to feature on an upcoming podcast of ours.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
A podcast series exploring new approaches to primary care, public health and public service delivery, supporting the 19 Hills Wellbeing Centre and community activities in Ringland, a small area in the east of Newport in south east Wales. We talk to colleagues and partners around the UK and beyond on how shifting to prevention, prioritising action on the Social Determinants of health and community-owned models of service delivery could change lives - and give staff a better job and purpose.
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Dr Jonny Currie
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