Conversing with Nature

On this episode, we are joined by Holley Owings, co-owner and landscape architect at Earth Design, for a timely conversation about designing landscapes that work with nature, not against it. With over two decades of experience in ecological and sustainable design, Holley shares how nature-based solutions are being applied across the Southeast to support healthier ecosystems, stronger communities, and more resilient places. The conversation explores what nature-based solutions look like in practice - from green infrastructure and ecological restoration to community-centered site design - before turning to the lasting impacts of Hurricane Helene. Holley reflects on how natural systems across South Carolina and the region performed during the storm, where they fell short, and what those lessons mean for recovery and long-term resilience. Together, Liz and Holley discuss how nature-based approaches can support both immediate post-disaster recovery and better preparation for future storms. Looking ahead, Holley paints a vision of what a truly nature-forward and resilient Greenville could look like over the next 10–20 years, and shares what gives her hope as interest in climate-resilient design continues to grow.--Conversing with Nature is hosted and edited by Dr. Liz Fly and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we are joined by Shannon Wilson, program manager of sustainability for Milo's Tea Company. As Shannon describes the history and core values of Milo's - especially their use of simple, quality ingredients and their dedication to their employees - we see how a dual focus on people and nature can help a company thrive. Through their zero waste initiative, water stewardship goals, purposeful partnerships, and community outreach efforts, Milo's is continually investing in the communities and ecosystems around them, setting an example that, with a little bit of effort, conservation and commerce can happily coexist. --Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we welcome Kate Ancaya, founding partner and design principal at Living Roofs, Inc., a firm out of Asheville, NC that specializes in creating green roofs and landscape on structure. As Kate dives into building plant communities in unlikely spaces, she explains the beauty and benefits behind this growing method of infrastructure and resilience. Kate reminds us that resilience starts in our backyards (or roofs!) and as we bring nature back into our everyday lives - whether that's through a living roof or a pollinator garden - we can shift nature-based designs from simply being accepted in our communities to becoming the standard. --Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we welcome two of The Nature Conservancy's leaders in South Carolina land protection: Katy McWilliams, the director of land protection, and Dr. David Bishop, senior project director. Together, Katy and David explain how The Nature Conservancy (and partners) are investing in land protection across the state to protect South Carolina's wild places through land purchases and conservation easements. As Katy and David explain their process of identifying, protecting, restoring, and maintaining these unique spaces, we are reminded that land protection isn't just about promoting biodiversity or maintaining wildlife corridors, it's also about us - how the preservation of these lands leaves behind a legacy of clean water, fresh air, and open spaces for current and future generations to enjoy.Learn more: Explore more of South Carolina’s protected lands on The Nature Conservancy’s Land Protection Dashboard.Visit the South Carolina Heritage Trust to discover a heritage preserve near you.--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we welcome April Magill, the owner of Root Down Designs, an architectural firm focused on sustainable design; April is also the executive director of the non-profit Root Down Building Collective, which provides architectural services, consulting, and house plans for climate-smart structures. An advocate for natural building materials, April explains how plant-based and mineral-based building products help reduce our carbon footprint, increase building performance, and are better for our health than commonly used plastic-based products. As April navigates this growing movement of sustainable design for us, she reminds us of two very important things: 1) making even one sustainable building choice matters and 2) community building, skill building, and empowerment work together to elevate the health of our neighbors and our environment. Learn more:For more information on natural building materials, check out the US Hemp Building Association.(Coming soon!) Be sure to check out Root Down Building Collective's "Events" page throughout the year to discover new women-centered programming. --Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this exciting crossover episode we welcome Rick Crawford, the president of Emerger Strategies and host of the wildly popular podcast, The Sustainable Angler. A lover of all things fishing, Rick talks about his efforts to educate and excite anglers and businesses to take positive action towards sustainability. Together, Liz and Rick explore what it looks like when science, conservation, business, and the bottom line come together for the betterment of our society and the environment. As we are reminded of the interconnectedness of all things – our business practices and supply chain choices, reducing emissions, combating biodiversity loss, and conserving nature – we see that this is an area where all people from all types of industries and interests can unite for a common goal. Want to learn more about how we can bridge the gap between nature-based solutions and business? Rick and Liz will be teaming up for a follow-up episode in the near future. Leave a comment if there is a topic or question you would like them to discuss.--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we welcome Jesse Blom, the executive director of the Green Heart Project, an organization that builds garden-based experiential learning projects and school garden programs to educate and connect people in Charleston, SC. As Jesse describes the benefits of urban agriculture and school garden programs, he celebrates food, not just as a source of nutrition, but also for its role in bringing people together across neighborhoods and generations and for its ability to help us maintain cultural traditions. Everyone benefits from nature-based experiences, and spending time in the garden (no matter how small the garden) is one way that we can instill a love of nature (and a love of vegetables) in ourselves and our communities. --Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we welcome Dr. Susan Johnson, the founder and CEO of Nature at Work, a statewide initiative working to improve workplace wellbeing through an intentional connection with nature. As Susan draws parallels between human health, the workplace environment, and the benefits of being surrounded by nature, she reinforces what many of us already know: nature makes us healthier, happier, smarter, and better stewards of our environment. In describing the Nature at Work framework, Susan reminds us that there are many ways we can incorporate nature into our lives – both at work and at home, through our design choices and our behaviors – and that the investment in nature (and ultimately ourselves) is well worth it.  Learn more:Check out the South Carolina Healthy Business Challenge.View the Nature Pyramid in this article by The Nature Conservancy’s New Mexico chapter that offers some tips on tapping into nature’s benefits.-- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we welcome Maeve Snyder, the owner of SnailSeed Native Plants in Myrtle Beach, SC. As Maeve describes the many benefits of native plants, the science behind genetic diversity, and the artistry of designing a beautiful garden, she teaches us that a native plant garden is something we can all do to create spectacular places of beauty, biodiversity, and restoration. Through Maeve’s passion for native plants and her dedication to seeing them thrive in communities around the world, we are reminded of our connection to nature, and that with a little work and dedication we can all make a positive impact on the unique ecosystems that surround us. Interested in expanding your native plant knowledge? Maeve recommends:Read Doug Tallamy's book Nature's Best HopeGet involved with your local chapter of the Native Plant SocietyLook for local field guides about the ecosystem where you liveCheck out Greening Your Space from North Carolina Sea Grant to find plants perfect for your container garden---Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we are joined by the three founders of The M.A.R.S.H. Project: Dr. Blake Scott, Joel Caldwell, and Blake Suarez. A grassroots and community program focused on revitalizing and advocating for Charleston's unique marsh ecosystems, The M.A.R.S.H. Project provides opportunities for neighbors to gather for cleanups, plant native plant gardens, be inspired through art and storytelling, and enjoy time together in nature. This group of friends proves that with a little dedication, a lot of passion, and a dose of positivity, it is possible to shift baselines at the community level and dream a better future into being through individual and collective action.Learn more:To join Charleston's Ecological Corridor, visit https://themarshproject.com/join.Follow them on Instagram @marsh_projectUpcoming events:Oct 16: Hed Hi Studio Film Screening & TalkOct 20: Planting a demonstration garden at the College of CharlestonNov 20: Marsh cleanup--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we are joined by Zack Snipes, co-owner of Shoreline Restoration Group (SRG), a Charleston, SC-based company that promotes thriving and resilient landscapes by preserving and stabilizing Lowcountry shorelines. As Zack walks us through SRG's history and the need for nature-based solutions in South Carolina (including the value of native stormwater buffers), he reminds us of the need for clear communication and education and the need to plan (and budget for!) maintenance. Through SRG's work, we see a beautiful example of what can happen when a handful of people who really care about nature come together with a commitment to producing healthy ecosystems. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On our first episode of season 3, we sit down with Gillian Zettler, cofounder of The Drop In, a Charleston, SC-based movement studio that seeks to cultivate human connection and community resilience by growing individual wellness. As Gillian talks about movement, green spaces, and vulnerability, we are reminded that when we invest in people, we are investing in nature as well. Through her love of nature and her passion for both people and wellness, Gillian inspires us to be human pollinators who build personal, community, and natural resilience through our daily actions.--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Dr. Liz Fly and Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation and The Nature Conservancy. To learn more, visit our website (www.naturebasedexchange.org) or follow the Nature-Based Exchange on Instagram @naturebasedexchange and Facebook.

On this episode, we are joined by Andy Hollis, the manager of the Shellfish Management Section at the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources. Andy transports us to South Carolina's vast system of estuaries as he describes the South Carolina oyster: its history, its impact on the Lowcountry's landscape and culture, its role as a habitat and a resource, and how SCDNR is working to manage the fishery and restore oyster beds across the coast. Through his passion and deep knowledge of this pivotal creature, Andy reminds us to respect and value the oyster and to always recycle your oyster shells!Learn more:Buy a saltwater fishing license.Learn more about SCDNR's Shellfish Management Section, view recreational oyster harvest maps, find oyster shell drop-off locations, and more.Volunteer with SCORE.Check out the video of Andy's interview on the "Put 'em Back" podcast by Toadfish.---Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl and Dr. Liz Fly, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we sit down with Mary Edna Fraser, a Charleston-based artist and environmental activist. An expert on the ancient method of Batik on silk, Mary Edna makes the artist's case for nature by bridging art and science to bring messages of conservation, stewardship, and environmental awareness to her art. As Mary Edna walks us through her design process and discusses her scientific collaborations, she inspires us to make art (and do it as much as possible!), to be proactive for the things we care about, to be adventurous, and to never stop learning.To learn more about Mary Edna Fraser:Visit her website (MaryEdna.com)Check out her YouTube Channel (@MaryEdnaFraser)Explore her advocacy website (DeleteApathy.com)Sign up for her course at John C Campbell Folk School this October titled “Mapping Your Personal Landscape-Batik on Silk”--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

This episode honors Dale Morris, the former Chief Resilience Officer for the City of Charleston and co-founder of the Dutch Dialogues. Dale passed away unexpectedly just 4 days after this interview. With permission from his family, we have released this episode to honor the incredible work Dale achieved throughout his life as well as to showcase the passionate, charismatic, and kind person that Dale was. A renowned advocate for resilience, Dale educates us on living with water, the lasting impact of the Dutch Dialogues, and the urgent need to show people the relevance and effectiveness of nature-based solutions. Dale dives into Charleston’s resilience strategy, exploring how the city may adapt in the future to live with water. Featuring insights into Charleston’s recent Water Plan as well as its most “misunderstood” project (the Coastal Storm Risk Management Study), Dale prompts us to remember our own love of Mother Nature and urges us to incorporate nature-based solutions into relevant spaces. Through his stories and insight, we get a glimpse of a world that respects nature, protects infrastructure, and values people, giving us hope that together we can find a way to be resilient.Learn more:Rebuild by DesignNRDCWaggonner & Ball Dutch DialoguesThe Charleston Water Plan (storymap)Charleston Peninsula Coastal Storm Risk Management ProjectWant to jump to a specific part of the episode? 3:04 - Dale’s path to the Dutch Embassy and the Netherlands relationship with water11:05 - The Dutch Dialogues34:53 - Charleston’s Water Plan42:10 - Nature-based solutions in Charleston’s Resilience Strategy48:20 - Economic benefits of nature-based solutions51:40- Charleston Peninsula Coastal Storm Risk Management Study1:03:47 - How can other cities learn from Charleston?1:10:18 - Dale’s reflection on his path forward--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Leslie Skardon, the chief executive officer at Sustain SC, which works to ensure a sustainable future for both our economy and our environment. As Leslie describes Sustain SC’s mission and roadmap, she dives into what it means for businesses to be both sustainable and profitable. (Hint: choosing the environment can also mean choosing profit!) Covering topics on energy, conservation, innovation, collaboration, metrics, and even some recent poll results, Leslie gives us hope that together we can see sustainable businesses, a resilient state, and a healthy environment.Learn more: The Roadmap to Sustain SCSustainability Leadership Initiative---Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we welcome EV Bell, the education and outreach manager at the South Carolina Sea Grant Consortium. EV makes the educator's case for nature through stories of empowering teachers, engaging kids with hands-on learning, and inspiring the next generation of environmental stewards. She reminds us that there will always be opportunities for education, simple language can be the most effective, and the valuable role that animals play in our connection to nature.Learn more:South Carolina Sea Grant Consortium's Education Programs (including the Seeds to Shorelines Program and the Palmetto Environmental Education Certification)Environmental Education Association of South CarolinaThe South Carolina Marine Education Association--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we sit down with Andrew Wunderley, the executive director of Charleston Waterkeeper. With training in both science and law, Andrew describes how Charleston Waterkeeper uses a combination approach of science, stewardship, and advocacy to be a voice for local creeks, marshes, and waterways. As Andrew describes the intricate relationship between land and water, we learn how our society - and our everyday choices - can harm water quality, and what we can do to fight against pollution and take a stand for water.Interested in expanding your impact? Volunteer with Charleston Waterkeeper!---Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Rollen Chalmers, a farmer in the South Carolina Lowcountry who specializes in the cultivation of Carolina Gold Rice and other heritage crops, and the co-owner of Rollen’s Raw Grains. As Rollen dives into the history and traditions behind these special crops, he teaches us about the ecosystem where Carolina Gold Rice thrives, including the vital role of soil and water, and shares his favorite recipe. Rollen's story reminds us of the importance of wild places, that it's never too late to pursue your passions, and that quality is worth the price.Learn more about the University of Georgia's Center for Research and Education at Wormsloe.--Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we welcome Tom Dooley, the director of forest conservation for The Nature Conservancy's South Carolina chapter. An expert on forest management, Tom illustrates the ecological and social value of forest ecosystems while simultaneously describing the science and history of the South's primary forest management technique: fire. As Tom and Liz discuss controlled burns (also known as prescribed fire), their conversational journey takes them across the U.S., from western wildfires to the impacts of Hurricane Helene to the South Carolina coast. Through Tom's insight, we learn that fire is a useful - and natural - solution to forest management if we take the time to plan and execute it safely and carefully. Learn more about the Sewee Fire Fest on March 15, 2025: The Nature Conservancy: Sewee Fire Fest 2025 The Longleaf Alliance: Sewee Fire Festival -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we sit down with Robert Etheridge, the owner and president of Mixon Seed Service. A PhD in agronomy and crop science, Robert makes the case for sustainable agriculture as he shares his knowledge and experience on all things farming, from the purpose of cover crops to the benefit of innovation, from the value of small and big ag to the significance of collaboration. As Robert gives a voice to the agricultural community, we are reminded that feeding the world is hard work, but together we can do it sustainably. Learn more: Sustain SC -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we have the pleasure of being joined by Spencer Wetmore, South Carolina State Representative for District 115. As Spencer describes what it is like to work in state government - the challenges, successes, collaboration, and sometimes even fun! - she makes the political case for raising awareness for the environment and protecting nature. Through her personal experiences and stories, Spencer explains the need for effective local government, the value of authentic community messengers, and the impact that regular citizens can have when they step up to advocate for themselves and their communities. Learn more about South Carolina's House of Representatives. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by KJ Kearney, a community organizer and founder of the social media account “Black Food Fridays.” An avid foodie, KJ explains how food can be used as a medium for political action and how he's used social media to support Black owned restaurants and businesses. KJ’s knowledge of Gullah Geechee history and his connections with Black chefs and restaurant owners worldwide gives him a unique perspective on eating local, addressing environmental impacts, and overcoming barriers to address social change. As KJ offers tips for communicating through social media and shares how his love of food led to his love for nature, he encourages all of us to get outside and spend more time with one another. (This episode NOT brought to you by SC State Parks, but KJ thinks it should be!) Learn more about KJ on his website, Black Food Fridays. Follow Black Food Fridays on social media: Instagram (@blackfoodfridays) Facebook (@blackfoodfridays) Craving food? Check out a few of KJ's favorite Black owned restaurants in Texas, Maryland, New York, and South Carolina: The Breakfast Klub (Houston, TX) ChopnBLok (Houston, TX) Papi Cuisine (Baltimore, MD) Cuples Tea House (Baltimore, MD) Melba's (Harlem, NY) Aunts et Uncles (Brooklyn, NY) Swank Desserts (Summerville, SC) My Three Sons (North Charleston, SC) Rodney Scott's Whole Hog BBQ (multiple locations) -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we welcome Maurie Lawrence, the vice president of sustainability and general counsel at Milliken & Company. Maurie makes the corporate case for nature as she describes Milliken's sustainability efforts, their commitment to progress and volunteering, and the value of good data. As she talks, Maurie reminds us of the power of partnerships, the need to "set the standard" in our work and actions, and the value in maintaining a sense of wonder. Learn more: Milliken's 2023 Sustainability Report Sustain SC and the Sustain SC Annual Symposium -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

As the southeast reels from the devastation of hurricanes Helene and Milton, we decided to investigate what role nature-based solutions have - and could - play in post-disaster rebuilding. On this special post-disaster episode, we feature three guests - Darren Meyer from MKSK, Joshua Robinson from Robinson Design Engineers, and Garey Payne from Tyndall Air Force Base - who talk to us about three nature-based projects spanning from the mountains of South Carolina to the coast of Florida. Through these examples, we learn how nature-based solutions can protect communities from the impact of storms as well as some best practices to consider as we plan and (re)build in a world facing more frequent and intense storms. Learn more: Unity Park, Greenville, SC (MKSK) Smith Branch, Columbia, SC (Robinson Design Engineers) Coastal Resilience on Tyndall Air Force Base Interested in helping with hurricane relief efforts? FEMA suggests cash donations to local relief organizations National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Dr. Liz Fly and Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by the Therblig Foundation. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we sit down with Captain Chris Crolley, the owner and CEO of Coastal Expeditions and the founder of the Coastal Expeditions Foundation. An avid environmental interpreter, Chris talks about the importance of environmental education and the impact a small, dedicated group of people can have for nature. Through examples of seabird and shorebird habitat restoration, the establishment of a South Carolina state sea bird, and his philosophy to have no child left dry, Chris makes Nature's case for nature as he inspires us all to get outside. Check out the Crab Bank Pelicam to see birds in action. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit ww.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

In November 2023, the Nature-Based Exchange held a celebration to commemorate one year of successful workshops in South Carolina. At this event, we collected recordings from guests on a range of questions related to nature-based solutions. As we start Season 2, we wanted to reflect on some of those answers to understand why we should support nature-based solutions in South Carolina and beyond. This unique episode features multiple guests to provide different experiences and perspectives, but they all agree that nature and people can benefit from more nature-based solutions. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl and Dr. Liz Fly, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this special summer episode, we are joined by Tony and Belinda Jones, the owners of Morning Glory Homestead Farm on St. Helena Island, SC. Tony and Belinda describe how their combined love of nature and family histories led them to become farmers and why they are so supportive of regenerative and sustainable agriculture practices (as well as what that means to them). Tony and Belinda share how they use their farm and their passion for education and their Gullah history to serve the community through their homeschool program, campfire dinners, and farm tours. As an added bonus, this episode features students from their spring homeschool program who reveal their love and curiosity for nature and what we can all do to protect it. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Dr. Liz Fly and Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we welcome Marilyn Hemingway, the founder and president of the Gullah Geechee Chamber of Commerce. Marilyn talks about the history and legacy of the Gullah Geechee people in the U.S. and worldwide, and explains how nature plays an important role in their culture and communities. Marilyn's passion for the environment is evident as she discusses the Gullah Geechee Seafood Trail, the Gullah Geechee Environmental and Energy Conference, and other initiatives the Chamber is pursuing to support local communities, while also encouraging each one of us to find our journey, build our confidence, be intentional, and make an impact in our own communities. Learn more about the Gullah Geechee: Hiking Groups: Outdoor Afros and Girl Trek Gullah Geechee Chamber Foundation Gullah Geechee Seafood Trail Gullah Geechee Nation Gullah Geechee Cultural Heritage Corridor National Heritage Area --- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Dr. Liz Fly and Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we sit down with Jared Bramblett, a senior water resources engineer at Moffatt and Nichol. Jared reveals how he uses his passion for photography to connect people with the science behind flooding in the Lowcountry while also offering suggestions on how to incorporate water into the build environment. Jared's training as an engineer combined with his interest in green infrastructure gives him a unique perspective to help communities plan, design, and learn to live with water on large and small scales. Learn more: ⁠Mean High Water⁠ (website) ⁠Mean High Water⁠ (Instagram) ⁠Imagining our Future with Water | Jared Bramblett | TEDxCharleston⁠ Christina Rae Butler’s book, Lowcountry at High Tide: A History of Flooding, Drainage, and Reclamation in Charleston, South Carolina -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Dr. Liz Fly and Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Kate Quigley, a natural resource and environmental economist with the NOAA Office for Coastal Management. Kate unveils what the study of economics is really about (hint: it's not just about money!) and explains how economists like herself study marine and coastal ecosystems to determine their value. Kate highlights some common economic valuation tools while also describing the importance of finding the co-benefits of natural systems, the need to tell nature stories using more than just numbers, and why our choices (such as how we spend our time and money) can show how much we support nature. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted and edited by Dr. Liz Fly and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Jonathan Zucker, Chairman of Z-Man Fishing Products and board chair for the South Carolina Aquarium. As a businessman, conservationist, and education advocate, Jonathan is a prime example of how a love of nature can permeate everything we do, from our work to our community involvement and our hobbies. Jonathan's passion for resilient ecosystems and communities is infectious as he describes his efforts to revolutionize the fishing industry, support education efforts at the South Carolina Aquarium and beyond, protect his own backyard, and scuba dive in faraway places. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Keisha Long, the environmental justice coordinator for the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control (SC DHEC). Keisha demystifies what “environmental justice” means (including what it means to be an EJ Community) and delves into the ways that SC DHEC’s EJ Strong initiative is working to support EJ Communities in South Carolina. Keisha’s engineering background coupled with her love for people and nature conveys the need to blend environmental justice with nature-based solutions and the far-reaching impacts of that action. Learn more: SC DHEC’s EJ Strong Initiative SC Food Access Map & Clemson Rural Health Locations EJ Strong Free Online Learning Module: Strengthening Communities for Disaster Risk Reduction, Response & Recovery -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit ww.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we talk to Rick Huffman, a landscape architect and the founder of Earth Design. A conservation advocate and founder of the South Carolina Native Plant Society, Rick illustrates the beauty and biodiversity of life in the South Carolina upstate while also explaining the importance of environmental education and exposure to nature. Rick's enthusiasm for science, native plants, and applied ecology shines a light on the need for actionable sustainability and how hard-work and persistence have led to changes within the landscape industry. Learn more about the South Carolina Native Plant Society and the ASLA SITES Initiative. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted and edited by Dr. Liz Fly and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we welcome Emily Bentley, chief of recovery and mitigation for the South Carolina Emergency Management Division (SCEMD). Emily explains what the SCEMD does for the state, the differences and similarities between recovery work and mitigation work, and why both aspects of emergency management need high levels of collaboration. Emily brings her love of nature to the discussion as she talks about the benefits of nature-based solutions and how important it is for us to work with nature, rather than against it. Learn more about the Conway project, the first nature-based solution in SC supported by FEMA funding. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we sit down with Mayor Frank McClary, a retired United States Army Colonel and the current mayor of Andrews, SC. Mayor McClary explains some of the resilience challenges and opportunities that are present in Andrews and how the town is tackling flooding, educating the community, and prioritizing the inclusion of nature-based design. Mayor McClary also talks about the town's new revisioning and revitalization plan and how they are planning for the new Black River State Park. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we welcome Kim Morganello, a senior project manager at Weston & Sampson⁠. Kim shares her findings from a study on Folly Beach that show how nature truly is resilient, and that we can draw inspiration from the resilience of nature and people during difficult times. Kim brings her past experiences as a biologist, educator, and urban designer to the conversation as she and Liz discuss the changing views towards green infrastructure, Clemson Extension's master rain gardener program, and Kim's desire to never stop exploring.  Explore Clemson Extension’s Carolina Rain Garden Initiative. Learn about Weston & Sampson’s Resilient Design work. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Michael Hodges, an oyster restoration biologist with the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources (SC DNR). Michael talks all things oysters: their benefits, their history in South Carolina, and how SC DNR is managing them today. Michael also describes the South Carolina Oyster Recycling and Enhancement Program (SCORE), how important community-based restoration is, and how YOU can recycle your oyster shells! To learn more about saltwater fishing and oyster permits, visit http://saltwaterfishing.sc.gov/. Visit SCORE's website to learn more about their programs and volunteer opportunities. If you're interested in volunteering with the SCORE program, email them at [email protected] to sign up. --- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Editing for this episode was done by Dr. Liz Fly with original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Alex Butler, the resilience planning director for the South Carolina Office of Resilience (SCOR). Liz and Alex dive into the history and purpose of SCOR as well as the contents and recommendations included in their recently released Statewide Resilience and Risk Reduction Plan. Alex also shares how SCOR is using nature-based solutions to address flooding and other hazards and describes specific projects and next steps to enhance community resilience across the state. For more information on the Strategic Statewide Resilience and Risk Reduction Plan, visit SCOR's Resilience Planning page. Decoding acronyms: SCOR - South Carolina Office of Resilience HUD - United States Department of Housing and Urban Development CDBG-DR - Community Development Block Grant Disaster Recovery CDBG-MIT - Community Development Block Grant Mitigation ARPA - American Rescue Plan -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

In the second half of our two-part episode with Cheryl Cail, southeast conservation associate director for American Rivers and vice-chief of the Waccamaw Indian People, Liz and Cheryl explore the history of the Waccamaw Indian People and the challenges of meaningful and intentional community engagement. Cheryl also explains the history and impact of PFAS and finding ways to improve existing social and political systems while enhancing our connection to nature. For more information on tribal communities in South Carolina, visit the SC Commission of Minority Affairs Native American Affairs Division. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

In the first of this two-part episode, we are joined by Cheryl Cail, the southeast conservation associate director for American Rivers and vice-chief of the Waccamaw Indian People. Cheryl talks about her life-long curiosity for nature, the impact our past experiences and ancestors can have on us in the present, the meaning of resilience, and how to address inequities. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode of Conversing with Nature, Liz is joined by Jen Howard, a principal at Steward Terra Communications. Jen explains the importance and impact of nature stories, including what makes a good conservation success story, what words are valuable to use, and why it is beneficial to get outside and experience nature for yourself. Resources: South Carolina Land Trust Network -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On this episode, we are joined by Howard Schnabolk, a habitat restoration specialist for the NOAA Fisheries Restoration Center. Liz and Howard talk about federal funding priorities and opportunities for nature-based solutions, including suggestions for strong applications, connections to DEIJ, and some nature-based projects that NOAA has funded in South Carolina. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On our third episode, we welcome Dale Threatt-Taylor, executive director of The Nature Conservancy South Carolina. Liz and Dale talk about soil conservation and agriculture in South Carolina and the many benefits of prescribed fire. Dale shares her thoughts on conservation leadership, diversity within the field of conservation, and her passion for fishing! -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

On our second episode, we are joined by Erin Stevens, the founder and president of Surculus, a landscape architecture firm based in Charleston, SC. Liz and Erin discuss all things native plants: their benefits and role in the ecosystem; the importance of educating clients and engaging the public in native plant gardens; and how Erin found her calling in landscape architecture. -- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.

Welcome to the first episode of Conversing with Nature! We welcome Keith Bowers, the founder and president of Biohabitats. Liz and Keith discuss landscape scale protection and restoration, and the importance of reconnecting people to nature. Keith shares his views on watershed planning, environmental justice, and the importance of incorporating nature-based approaches, biodiversity, and climate adaptation into local planning and zoning.  --- Conversing with Nature is hosted by Dr. Liz Fly, edited by Nicole Pehl, and produced by The Nature Conservancy. Original music provided by Matt Williams, cover art designed by Amy Nguyen, and funding provided by Honda. To learn more, visit www.naturebasedexchange.org or on Instagram @naturebasedexchange.