Counsel Connect Podcast

In this episode of Counsel Connect, host Marcus Pullen speaks with Joseph Longo, Chair of the Australian Securities and Investments Commission and former General Counsel for Deutsche Bank.Drawing on decades of experience operating at the highest levels of law and regulation, Joe shares practical insights on the relationship between in-house counsel and regulators. The conversation explores how general counsel can build trust with regulators, navigate internal corporate pressures, and provide objective advice when things go wrong.Joe also discusses the evolving expectations of modern in-house lawyers, from the importance of understanding the client business and risk, to embracing technology and leading a culture of compliance within organisations.This is a must-listen for any in-house lawyers, governance professionals, Boards and senior management seeking to navigate today’s complex legal and regulatory environment.------------------------------------------------------------Want to be a guest in a future episode or have a topic you want us to cover? Email us at: ⁠[email protected]: ⁠www.linkedin.com/company/jackson-mcdonald⁠Website: ⁠www.jacmac.com.auConnect with Marcus Pullen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjpullen/------------------------------------------------------------Chapters: (0:00) Introduction to Joe Longo and his legal background.(1:35) The #1 piece of advice for dealing with regulators(2:50) Navigating the entity: Helping boards think objectively about what went wrong.(5:15) Why in-house counsel must understand the business, not just the law.(6:30) The General Counsel as a "trusted advisor" on non-financial and reputational risk.(7:45) Systems intentionality and the challenge of holding corporations accountable.(10:15) Public expectations: Holding individuals vs. entities accountable.(11:20) Balancing legal independence with business partnership.(15:45) The "existential risk" of technology: Why ASIC and GCs must embrace AI.(21:30) Building a culture of curiosity and data literacy within legal teams.(25:00) Avoiding the trap of representing individuals over the entity.(35:45) Maintaining the role of the entity's "conscience"------------------------------------------------------------Produced by ⁠Podwave Studios⁠Music from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/light-prism/faded-beamsLicense code: BLWBQNZFIFV4LLLN

In this episode of Counsel Connect, Irene Kuo shares a candid and practical perspective on the realities of life as in-house counsel, from building trust and setting boundaries with stakeholders to navigating the isolation that can come with the role. She reflects on her journey to Perth, and her time at Fortescue, Rio Tinto and currently as a Director at Fluor Australia, alongside her leadership roles as the Immediate Past President of the Association of Corporate Counsel (WA Division) and an Advisory Board Member at UWA Law School.In this conversation we explore the rapid evolution of legal technology and AI, accountability and human agency within organisations, advising strong-willed leaders, and what in-house counsel truly value from their external advisers. The Counsel Connect Podcast is a dedicated resource for in-house counsel in Western Australia. Produced by Jackson McDonald and hosted by Marcus Pullen, Partner Disputes Resolution and NFP President, the series explores the legal, policy and public interest issues shaping the work of corporate legal teams across the State.Subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes.------------------------------------------------------------Want to be a guest in a future episode or have a topic you want us to cover? Email us at: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠LinkedIn: ⁠⁠www.linkedin.com/company/jackson-mcdonald⁠⁠Website:⁠ ⁠www.jacmac.com.au⁠Connect with Marcus Pullen: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjpullen/⁠------------------------------------------------------------Chapters: (00:00) Welcome to Council Connect(02:52) Building Trust & Boundaries(04:41) In-House Reality Check(06:13) Moving to Perth(07:31) Why In-House Can Feel Isolating (and How to ‘Phone a Friend’)(09:59) ACC’s Role(12:53) Creating Direct Pathways: Grad Programs, Internships & Training Juniors(15:26) Law School vs Real Practice(18:26) Legal Tech & AI Evolution(27:14) AI in Law School(29:53) Accountability & Agency(32:35) AI for Small Teams(37:22) What In-House Really Wants(42:08) Avoiding Court When Possible(43:27) Advising Strong-Willed Leaders(51:19) Career Advice for Aspiring In-House Leaders(53:59) What Brings Joy ------------------------------------------------------------Produced by Podwave StudiosMusic from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/light-prism/faded-beamsLicense code: BLWBQNZFIFV4LLLN

Our inaugural Counsel Connect episode features Dr Tony Buti MLA, Minister for Commerce; Tertiary and International Education; Multicultural Interests; and Attorney General of Western Australia, who reflects on his legal journey and shares his perspective on the evolving importance of the in-house profession.Whether you are leading a legal function or working as part of one, Counsel Connect offers relevant, grounded and forward-thinking discussions to support your role.The Counsel Connect Podcast is a dedicated resource for in-house counsel in Western Australia. Produced by Jackson McDonald and hosted by Marcus Pullen, Partner, the series explores the legal, policy and public interest issues shaping the work of corporate legal teams across the State.Subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes.------------------------------------------------------------Want to be a guest in a future episode or have a topic you want us to cover? Email us at: [email protected]: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jackson-mcdonaldWebsite: www.jacmac.com.auConnect with Marcus Pullen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjpullen/------------------------------------------------------------Chapters: 0:00: Introduction: Dr. Buti's roles as Attorney General and Minister 0:55: Why Dr. Buti started his career as a teacher 4:57: The Path to Law 6:57: Moving away from billable units to the Aboriginal Legal Service 8:47: The Stolen Generations Project12:54: Diversity in the Profession 18:03: Why Dr. Buti went into academia before politics 24:43: Priorities including Equal Opportunity, the Evidence Act, and judicial accountability 27:11: Grappling with AI and Access to Justice 34:03: Greatest Achievements------------------------------------------------------------Music from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/light-prism/faded-beamsLicense code: BLWBQNZFIFV4LLLN

The Counsel Connect Podcast is essential listening for in-house counsel in Western Australia.Produced by Jackson McDonald and hosted by Marcus Pullen, Partner, the series explores the legal, policy and public interest issues shaping corporate legal teams across the State.Each episode features candid conversations with leaders from government, business and the legal profession. Together, we unpack emerging risks, regulatory developments and practical challenges faced by in-house counsel, offering insights that support informed decision-making and strengthen legal capability within organisations.Counsel Connect offers relevant, grounded and forward-thinking discussions to support your role.Subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes.Want to be a guest in a future episode or have a topic you want us to cover?Email us at: [email protected] with Marcus Pullen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjpullen/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jackson-mcdonaldWebsite: www.jacmac.com.auMusic from #Uppbeathttps://uppbeat.io/t/light-prism/faded-beamsLicense code: BLWBQNZFIFV4LLLN