Dishing on Divorce Podcast

What if divorce, conflict, and emotional pain were not just endings, but invitations to something deeper? In this powerful episode of Dishing on Divorce, Deanna Coyle and Mandy Pullen Barr sit down with psychotherapist, behavioral health consultant, and transformation coach Adrienne Beloin for an honest conversation about healing, identity, relationships, and the inner work that often follows divorce. Adrienne shares her deeply personal divorce story, the physical and emotional toll of living disconnected from herself, and how her journey inspired her groundbreaking framework called Sacred Reckoning. Together, they explore emotional safety, attachment wounds, co-parenting, self-abandonment, relational intelligence, and the courage it takes to truly know yourself. This episode is filled with powerful insights for anyone navigating divorce, burnout, relationship struggles, or major life transitions. It is a conversation about moving beyond survival mode and learning how to become whole within yourself so you can build healthier, more authentic relationships moving forward. Topics include: • Emotional and psychological safety in relationships • Divorce as a catalyst for transformation • The connection between emotional stress and physical health • Co-parenting and healing after divorce • Attachment wounds and relational patterns • Sacred Reckoning and self-discovery • Why “fight with me like you love me” changes everything If you have ever wondered who you are outside of your roles, relationships, or responsibilities, this episode will resonate deeply. Connect with Adrienne: https://www.betterhalf.solutions/ Connect with Mandy and Deanna: [email protected]

What if the patterns showing up in your divorce didn’t start with you? In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna sit down with Dr. Kathy Memel, a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 40 years of experience, to discuss why the court is often not the best place to begin the divorce process and what families can do instead. Dr. Memel shares how looking at your family tree can uncover generational patterns that influence how you communicate, handle conflict, and make decisions in relationships. With that awareness, it becomes possible to move through divorce in a more intentional and child-centered way. This conversation goes beyond the legal process. It is about understanding behavior, reducing conflict, and creating a path forward that supports both you and your children. In this episode, we cover: • Why the court system can feel overwhelming and disempowering • When court is necessary, including situations involving safety concerns • How staying out of court can support better outcomes for families • What makes a strong and detailed parenting plan • Why details matter more than most people expect • The impact of conflict on children’s emotional development • How generational patterns shape relationships and divorce • Why does how you speak about the other parent matter • What it takes to build a healthy co-parenting relationship over time Dr. Memel also shares a powerful reminder that change is possible. It may feel slow, uncomfortable, and unfamiliar, and it can lead to a completely different future for your family. If you are early in the process, feeling overwhelmed, or wondering how to do this more healthily, this episode offers clarity, perspective, and hope. Connect with Kathy: https://drkathymemel.com/ Connect with Deanna and Mandy: [email protected]  

Friendship is one of the most powerful and often overlooked support systems during divorce and life transitions. In this honest and deeply personal episode, Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle open up about a recent strain in their own friendship and what it taught them about communication, space, and healing. They share how grief, health challenges, financial stress, and emotional overwhelm began to impact their connection, and how a moment of misalignment created distance, silence, and misunderstanding. Through their story, they explore how even the strongest relationships can be tested and how working through those moments can actually deepen connection and trust. This episode is a reminder that friendships require care, just like any relationship. Mandy and Deanna also reflect on how these dynamics mirror what many experience in divorce, including loss of trust, fear of rejection, and the importance of having the right support system. They discuss when to lean on friends, when to seek professional guidance, and how to navigate hard conversations with honesty and compassion. If you have ever felt disconnected from someone you love or struggled to show up as your best self during a challenging time, this conversation will resonate deeply. Connect with Mandy and Deanna: [email protected]

What happens when the life you carefully planned falls apart and you’re left asking, “What now?” This episode is a powerful reminder that even in the midst of chaos, you can rebuild something stronger, clearer, and more aligned than ever before. Today, we are joined by Amanda Da Silva, founder of Right Step Solutions, a transition-focused coach who helps individuals navigate life’s most pivotal moments with clarity and confidence. After experiencing her own deeply challenging divorce, Amanda shares what it truly looks like to rebuild when your identity, career, and sense of stability have been shaken. This conversation goes far beyond career coaching. Amanda opens up about losing her confidence, her income, and even her ability to function as she once could, and how she slowly found her way back. Through her work, she now helps others do the same, blending practical strategy with emotional support in a way that meets people exactly where they are. In this episode, we explore: • What divorce can do to your confidence, identity, and ability to move forward • Why clarity is the first step when everything feels uncertain • The connection between mindset and real-world decisions, like job searching • How to rebuild financially and professionally after stepping away from work • Why taking a step back can sometimes be the most powerful move forward Amanda’s story is honest, raw, and deeply inspiring. It’s a reminder that you don’t have to have everything figured out; you need the right support and the willingness to take the next step. Connect with Amanda: [email protected] Connect with Deanna and Mandy: [email protected]

Divorce can break your identity or become the moment you rebuild it stronger than ever. Therapist and author Caryn Gottlieb shares how to heal, move forward, and truly thrive after divorce. Summary: In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we sit down with Caryn Gottlieb, licensed clinical therapist, life coach, and author of Beauty Within Divorce: A No BS Guide to Healing, Reinventing, and Loving Life Again. Caryn shares her deeply personal journey through divorce and how it shaped the work she does today, helping women move from surviving to truly thriving. Drawing from both her clinical background and lived experience, she offers powerful insight into the emotional challenges of divorce, including loss of identity, navigating triggers, and breaking generational patterns. We explore the difference between therapy, coaching, and counseling, and why having the right kind of support matters at different stages of the process. Caryn also introduces a refreshing perspective on divorce, one rooted in growth, resilience, and the opportunity to create something new. This conversation is filled with practical tools, mindset shifts, and honest reflections for anyone navigating divorce or life after it. Connect with Caryn: https://caryngottlieb.com/ Connect with Deanna and Mandy: [email protected]

When trust is gone, how do you move forward and protect yourself financially? A raw look at high conflict divorce, hidden money, and finding clarity. What happens when you can no longer trust the person you once built a life with, and the finances don’t seem to make sense? In this powerful episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna sit down with a dynamic duo who bring both emotional grounding and financial clarity to even the most complex divorces. Keri Gwynne, a high-conflict divorce coach and mediator, shares her deeply personal journey through abuse, trauma, and a high-stakes legal battle, and how it led her to help hundreds of families move from chaos to clarity. Ryan Finley, CPA, CDFA, and forensic accountant, breaks down what really happens behind the financial scenes of divorce, including hidden money, dissipation of assets, and the subtle signs that something isn’t adding up. Together, they explore: • How to navigate divorce when trust is completely broken • Why structure and boundaries matter more than emotion • What hidden money can look like and how it’s uncovered • When to bring in a forensic accountant • How to stay grounded when everything feels overwhelming This conversation is honest, eye-opening, and deeply empowering for anyone navigating divorce, especially in high-conflict situations. Because even in the most overwhelming moments, clarity is possible. Connect with Keri: https://www.startingpointfreedom.com/ Connect with Ryan: https://www.freedomfsg.com/

Financial abuse in divorce is often invisible, but its impact is profound. This episode uncovers the signs of coercive financial control and how it can leave individuals feeling trapped, fearful, and financially powerless. Janice breaks down how financial manipulation can quietly strip individuals of independence, leaving them feeling isolated and unable to move forward. She shares the most common red flags, from restricted access to money and accounts to hidden assets and financial intimidation, and explains why many people don’t recognize what’s happening until they’re already in crisis. The conversation highlights how financial control can complicate the divorce process, creating confusion and paralysis at a time when clear decision-making is critical. Janice emphasizes the importance of building a strong support team, including legal, financial, and emotional professionals, to help individuals regain clarity and confidence. Listeners will walk away with practical steps to protect themselves, insights into evolving legal recognition of financial abuse, and a powerful reminder that financial independence is possible, even after years of control. This episode is both eye-opening and empowering, offering hope and guidance for anyone navigating divorce or supporting someone who is. Connect with Janice: [email protected] Janice Berner is a registered representative of and offers securities and investment advisory services through MML Investors Services LLC., Member SIPC. Supervisory office: One Marina Park Drive, Suite 1600 Boston MA 02210. 617-585-4500. The views and opinions expressed are those of the program participants and are not necessarily those of MML Investors Services LLC. Neither MML Investors Services, LLC nor any of its subsidiaries, employees or representatives are authorized to give legal or tax advice. The material is not intended as recommendations appropriate for you and should not be construed as legal, tax or accounting advice. Consult a qualified legal, tax and accounting advisors on specific legal and tax matters. Janice Berner is a Licensed CPA, but not practicing. 

College planning becomes even more complex during divorce. College planning strategist and Smart College Buyer podcast host Jack Wang explains how financial aid rules, FAFSA changes, and scholarships impact divorced families and what parents can do to avoid overpaying for college. In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna sit down with Jack to unpack the often-confusing intersection of divorce, financial aid, and higher-education planning. Drawing from both professional expertise and his own experience navigating divorce while raising two sons, Jack shares practical guidance to help families make thoughtful, financially sound decisions about college. The conversation explores common misconceptions about financial aid, including who actually fills out the FAFSA in divorced families, how remarriage and stepparent income can affect aid eligibility, and why timing major financial decisions during high school years can make a significant difference in the aid a student receives. Jack also explains the additional complexity of CSS Profile schools, the role of institutional scholarships, and how families can think more strategically about choosing colleges based on financial fit rather than just academic reputation. For divorced parents, the discussion highlights the importance of early planning and communication. Mandy and Deanna explore how parents can align expectations about what it means to “pay for college,” how divorce agreements can influence future college costs, and why understanding the financial aid process earlier than most families expect can make a meaningful difference. The episode also covers recent legislative changes affecting federal student loans and what those changes may mean for families planning for college in the coming years. Whether you are newly divorced, navigating co-parenting, or simply trying to make wise financial decisions for your family, this episode offers valuable insight into one of the largest financial investments many parents will ever face. Connect with Jack: [email protected] Check out his Podcast: smartcollegebuyer.podbean.com/  Connect with Mandy and Deanna: [email protected] 

On this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy Barr is joined by Michael Pereira, founder of The Autism Voyage, to explore the complex intersection of divorce, parenting, and raising a neurodivergent child. Michael shares both professional expertise and personal insight as the father of a son with autism. After his son’s diagnosis, Michael’s life shifted dramatically, leading him to leave corporate America and build a platform dedicated to helping families navigate the emotional, financial, and logistical realities of raising children with special needs. Together, Mandy and Michael discuss: • The emotional journey parents experience after an autism diagnosis • How neurodivergence can impact marriages and sometimes lead couples to the brink of divorce • Why routines and stability are critical for children on the spectrum during separation • The importance of financial planning, insurance, estate planning, and long-term care strategies • How parents can shift from fear and isolation to clarity and intentional planning Michael also shares how The Autism Voyage was created to provide education, resources, and community for families who often feel alone as they navigate neurodiversity. This conversation offers compassionate guidance for parents facing difficult transitions as they plan a stable future for their children. Connect with Michael: https://theautismvoyage.com/ Email Michael: [email protected] Connect with Mandy and Deanna: [email protected] 

Considering divorce? In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we explore how couples mediation, also known as marriage mediation, can help strengthen a marriage before making the final decision to separate. Jennifer Hawthorne Kelsey, a Massachusetts mediator and collaborative attorney at Skylark Law and Mediation in Southborough, explains how mediation provides clarity, structure, and practical problem-solving for couples navigating conflict. For some couples, this process helps repair communication patterns, reduce tension, and create new agreements that support staying together. Instead of immediately lawyering up and heading into litigation, couples mediation offers a structured, neutral space to work through parenting schedules, financial responsibilities, household roles, communication breakdowns, and future planning. We discuss: • The difference between couples mediation and divorce mediation • How mediation differs from therapy • How structured problem solving can help preserve and strengthen a marriage • When mediation may clarify that separation is the healthiest path • Co-parenting, parenting plans, and conflict de-escalation • Situations where mediation may not be appropriate, including coercive control and intimate partner violence Jennifer also shares her personal journey through divorce and co-parenting, and how curiosity, communication, and emotional maturity can reshape even high-conflict dynamics. If you are considering divorce and want to explore every option before making a life-changing decision, this conversation offers grounded guidance, perspective, and hope. Connect with Jennifer: https://skylarklaw.com/jenniferhawthorne/ Connect with Deanna and Mandy: [email protected]

Dishing on Divorce welcomes Teresa Luse, co-parenting coach, family mediator, and author of Combative to Collaborative: The Co-Parenting Code. Teresa shares how she and her former spouse intentionally designed a collaborative co-parenting relationship after divorcing when their son was six, creating a stable, supportive childhood that their now adult son describes as happy. Mandy and Deanna explore practical ways parents can move from conflict to cooperation, including Teresa’s Golden Rule approach, how to stop assigning motives and start seeking clarity, and why you do not have to like your co-parent to co-parent well. Teresa breaks down common co-parenting breakdowns, such as punishing for past hurt and positional bargaining, then offers tools to get unstuck, including interest-based problem-solving, paraphrasing for better communication, and her three-list framework for what parents must align on versus what can differ across households. They also dive into Teresa’s Three Cs for healthier relationships: civility, caring, and communication, and discuss why communication often needs to increase, not decrease, as children grow and the stakes get higher. The episode is a hopeful reminder that collaborative co-parenting is built by intention, not perfection, and that even one parent choosing a different approach can begin to shift the entire dynamic for the better. Connect with Teresa Luse: https://teresaluse.com/ Get Teresa's Book: Combative to Collaborative: The Co-parenting Code Connect with Mandy and Deanna: [email protected]

On this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna sit down with Lis Davies, CDFA®, and Jeff Matthews, CFP®, CDFA®, from the Arlington Group Investment Consulting in Columbus, Ohio, to explore the growing trend of divorce after 50. With decades of experience and personal connections to divorce, Lis and Jeff bring both professional insight and lived understanding to this important conversation. They unpack the unique financial complexities that arise later in life, when couples may be nearing retirement, managing significant accumulated assets, and reimagining a future they once assumed would look very different. In this episode, we discuss: • Why divorce after 50 is on the rise • The emotional and financial realities of dividing assets after decades of marriage • Social Security rules every divorcing spouse over 50 should understand • Spousal support expectations today • The real cost of keeping the family home • Lifestyle shifts and spending patterns after divorce • Why financial planning early in the process matters Lis and Jeff also share how they collaborate with attorneys, therapists, CPAs, and estate planners to support clients holistically during this life transition. Connect with Lis and Jeff: https://fa.wellsfargoadvisors.com/The-Arlington-Group/index.html Connect with the concierge team: [email protected] 

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we sit down with Jessica Breckenridge, Family Law Attorney and Co-Founder of Empower Family Law in Colorado, and a vetted Vesta professional in Vesta’s new Colorado Hub. Jessica shares how her early life in the foster care system and an adoption experience that went wrong shaped her passion for helping children and families. She also shares her experience of divorce during her first semester of law school, including a painful attorney intake call that strengthened her commitment to ensure clients feel informed, supported, and respected. We discuss common misconceptions about hiring a divorce attorney, including the belief that lawyers automatically make divorce more adversarial, and explain why, in Colorado, good legal guidance can reduce conflict. Jessica breaks down full scope versus limited scope representation, why preparation matters, and how the right divorce team, including coaches, therapists, financial experts, and real estate professionals, can protect your peace and your future. Jessica was recognized by the National Academy of Family Law Attorneys as one of Colorado’s Top 10 Under 40 for 2025. Connect with Jessica Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.empowerfamilylegal.com/ Connect with Vesta's Concierge Email: [email protected] Note: This episode is for education only and is not legal advice. If you are experiencing domestic violence, coercive control, threats, or feel unsafe, please prioritize safety and reach out to local emergency services, a domestic violence hotline, or a trusted professional in your area.

In this soulful episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle sit down with love and intimacy coach, IFS psychotherapist, and Omega Institute faculty member Robyn Vogel. Robyn shares how early loss and heartbreak shaped her life’s purpose and led her to help others heal, rebuild self-trust, and create lasting love. The conversation centers around her new book, Come Back to Love: A Path to Healing, and the Four Gates framework she uses to guide people through emotional healing, nervous system regulation, body-based healing, and soul-level perspective. Listeners will hear: Why abandonment wounds are so common after divorce How the brain can be rewired to release limiting beliefs Simple nervous system tools to calm overwhelm and anxiety How love, compassion, and purpose can transform even the deepest pain This episode is tender, insightful, and deeply human. It is for anyone healing from divorce or loss, or from old stories that no longer serve them, and for anyone ready to return to love. 📘 Come Back to Love releases February 9. Get your copy here: Order Your Copy. 💛 Learn more about Robyn’s groups, retreats, and book launch: https://www.comebacktolove.com/ Join us for her book launch party: https://bit.ly/MasterClassFeb9

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we sit down with Dr. Lee Baucom, marriage and relationship coach, author of seven books, and host of the Save the Marriage podcast with over 5.5 million downloads. Dr. Baucom shares practical, compassionate guidance on how couples lose connection, why love alone is not enough to sustain a marriage, and what actually helps relationships heal. We explore when it makes sense to work on saving a marriage, when it may be healthier to move forward, and how to do both with clarity and without regret. This conversation covers rebuilding connection, personal responsibility versus blame, limiting beliefs, and how the work you do on yourself impacts every relationship in your life, including co-parenting after divorce. A must listen for anyone questioning their marriage or wanting to show up differently in love and family life. Learn more about Dr.Lee Baucom: https://leebaucom.com/ Check out his podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@SaveTheMarriageSystem

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Deanna Coyle sits down with certified divorce coach and pre-mediation coach Lyerly Spongberg to talk about how preparation can completely change the divorce experience. Lyerly shares how her own high-conflict divorce led her to become the coach she once needed. She explains what divorce coaching is, how it is different from therapy, and why working with a pre-mediation coach can save time, money, and emotional energy. They discuss: What divorce coaching really is and who it is for How pre-mediation coaching helps you walk into mediation prepared and confident The biggest misconceptions about mediation How to stay grounded and regulated during high-conflict conversations Why keeping children at the center leads to better long-term outcomes If you are considering divorce or preparing for mediation, this episode will help you understand your options and feel more empowered about your next steps. Subscribe for more expert conversations on divorce, co-parenting, finances, and rebuilding life after divorce. Connect with Lyerly: https://stepupwithlyerly.com/

Therapist, writer, and divorce support group leader Oona Metz joins Dishing on Divorce to talk about what so many women experience but rarely feel prepared for: the emotional journey of divorce. With 30 years of clinical experience and 15 years specializing in divorce support, Oona shares why community matters, why the traditional grief model does not fully fit divorce, and how her Five Phases of Divorce Grief can help listeners feel less lost and more grounded. We also talk about language that increases shame, the hidden losses people grieve, and simple tools that regulate the nervous system when everything feels like too much. Oona’s new book, Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women, is a practical and compassionate companion packed with stories, exercises, resources, and real support for the road ahead. Oona Metz, LICSW, CGP, is a therapist, writer, and speaker with 30 years of clinical experience. She specializes in supporting women+ through divorce and offers therapist-led divorce support groups, along with training for mental health clinicians through the Beacon Group Fellowship. Her private practice is based in Brookline and Arlington, Massachusetts. Connect with Oona: https://www.oonametz.com/ Get Oona's book: https://www.amazon.com/Unhitched-Essential-Divorce-Guide-Women/dp/1668075385

A conversation about mediation, collaborative divorce, and healthier paths forward. On this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we’re joined by Debra Whitson, founder of Whitson Law and a vetted Vesta professional in New York. With more than 25 years of experience in divorce and family law, Debra has seen firsthand how litigation can deeply impact families—especially children. That experience led her to shift her work toward healthier, more intentional divorce pathways, including mediation and collaborative divorce. Debra shares insight from her powerful resource, From the Kitchen Table to the Courthouse, and explains how the way a divorce begins can shape its emotional, financial, and relational outcomes long after it’s over. In this episode, we discuss: Why starting a divorce with blame often makes everything harder The difference between kitchen-table divorce, mediation, collaboration, and litigation When mediation is not appropriate—especially in cases involving power imbalances or safety concerns Common myths about “telling your story” in court The emotional and financial cost of prolonged conflict How divorce impacts children and what parents can do to reduce harm This episode provides practical guidance and a thoughtful perspective for anyone seeking a more informed, humane approach to divorce. Resources mentioned: From the Kitchen Table to the Courthouse – https://bit.ly/DebraWhitsonPDF Divorce Like a Pro: A Better Way to Break Up –  https://whitsonlawfirm.com/divorce-like-a-pro/ Connect with Debra: https://whitsonlawfirm.com/ If you are experiencing domestic violence, coercive control, or feel unsafe, please reach out to local emergency services or a trusted support organization immediately.

In this powerful and deeply human episode of Dishing on Divorce, Deanna and Mandy sit down with Jodi Goodman, a longtime Vesta community member turned Concierge Specialist, to share her remarkable journey through divorce, healing, and transformation. Jodi opens up about navigating two very different divorces, the emotional toll of starting over, and how finding the right support system changed everything. After discovering Vesta, she leaned into attending webinars during one of the hardest seasons of her life, Jodi found not only clarity and guidance—but a community that helped her rebuild her confidence, reclaim her voice, and move forward with intention. Together, they explore: What it truly feels like to go through divorce—and why support matters How working with a coordinated team (attorney, coach, financial professional) can reduce chaos and overwhelm The power of divorce coaching and having someone help you pause before reacting How personal growth, self-awareness, and healing can emerge from even the most painful transitions Why community, compassion, and connection are essential during life’s hardest chapters Jodi also shares her own evolution—from client to trusted member of the Vesta concierge team—and how her lived experience allows her to support others with empathy, clarity, and deep understanding. This episode is a heartfelt reminder that divorce doesn’t have to define you—and that with the right support, it can become the beginning of something stronger, healthier, and more aligned with who you truly are. Listen in for honesty, laughter, and hope—and a reminder that you don’t have to walk this journey alone. Connect with the concierge team: [email protected]

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna are joined by Danielle Konzelmann, Esq., a New Jersey family law attorney and mediator, and a Vesta-vetted professional in the New York / New Jersey Hub. With more than 20 years in family law, Danielle brings a calm, child-centered approach to high-conflict divorces, complex custody matters, and significant-asset cases—while firmly believing that divorce does not have to be nasty. In this conversation, we cover: Divorce process options in New Jersey, including mediation, collaborative divorce, and divorce from bed and board Key differences between New Jersey and Massachusetts divorce laws What truly drives high-conflict cases (financial control, restraining orders, complex assets, custody distrust) Child support considerations in 50/50 parenting schedules Why divorce is a marathon—not a sprint—and how perspective, pacing, and grace can lower conflict Danielle also shares how her own childhood experience of divorce shaped her work and why keeping children at the center of the process can change outcomes for families long after the legal case ends. A powerful reminder from this episode: How you divorce matters—because the story doesn’t end when the paperwork is signed.   Connect with Danielle: [email protected] Website:  https://www.konzlaw.com/

In this powerful and refreshingly honest episode of Dishing on Divorce, hosts Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle sit down with renowned sexologist, integrative somatic trauma therapist, and author Zoë Kors to explore one of the most tender, transformative, and commonly misunderstood parts of life after divorce: reclaiming your sexuality. Zoë —author of Radical Intimacy and resident Sex & Intimacy Coach at The Choral Lab—has spent decades helping women heal shame, reconnect with their bodies, and rediscover desire after major life transitions. Her work blends science, spirituality, trauma healing, and emotional intelligence, making her the perfect guide for this conversation. Together, we dive into: Why sexuality often shuts down during long-term marriages What a “sexless marriage” does to emotional and physical intimacy How cultural conditioning, religion, family messages, and early experiences create sexual shame The impact of menopause, hormones, and midlife changes on libido Navigating pornography and compulsive sexual behavior in relationships The fears many people face about dating, vulnerability, and being seen naked again What it truly means to build sexual confidence from the inside out How somatic healing, trauma work, and self-intimacy can transform your future relationships Zoë offers gentle, insightful pathways for healing—reminding listeners that nothing is broken and nothing is wrong. Whether you’re single, newly divorced, in the early stages of healing, or beginning to imagine intimacy again, this episode gives you the compassion, wisdom, and possibility you’ve been craving. She also shares two beautiful quotes from Buddhist teacher Pema Chödrön, including the powerful reminder: “You are the sky. Everything else is just weather.” This conversation is vulnerable, warm, surprising, and deeply needed. It’s a celebration of resilience, pleasure, and the courage to rediscover who you are. ✨ If this episode resonates, please subscribe and leave us a five-star review — your support helps others find hope, healing, and their path forward. Connect with Zoë: https://www.zoekors.com/ Get Zoë's book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/radical-intimacy-cultivate-the-deeply-connected-relationships-you-desire-and-deserve

In this special anniversary episode, Mandy and Deanna look back on an incredible first year of Dishing on Divorce—a year filled with wisdom, laughter, vulnerability, unforgettable guests, and profound moments that shaped both the show and their own lives. They kick off with nostalgia, remembering their launch party led by mentor Jennifer Grace on December 7th—a celebration that brought together Vesta professionals, attendees, and fellow creatives from their podcast training. From fumbling through Zoom downloads to mastering Descript editing, they reflect on how launching imperfectly was precisely what allowed them to grow consistently and meaningfully. One year later, they haven’t missed a single week. The conversation highlights how the podcast transformed their concierge calls. Many listeners now arrive already feeling connected—“I feel like I know you girls”—a testament to the authentic, girlfriend-style tone that makes the show feel both comforting and deeply informative. Mandy and Deanna revisit standout episodes and the guests who left lasting impressions: * Jennifer Grace, whose teaching on patience and co-parenting set the tone for episode one. https://bit.ly/Apple-Jennifer-Grace   * Claudia Brown Coulter, who shared her journey into mediation, her wisdom on “rejection is protection,” and her humor about finally being able to “pee whenever she wants.” https://bit.ly/Apple-Claudia-Brown-Coulter   * Dr. Thomas Jordan, whose book helped them understand patterns of love, grief, and healing in transformational ways. https://bit.ly/Apple-Thomas-Jordan   * Simonne Rossi, who opened up about betrayal, forgiveness, and clearing emotional space like “an old Parisian apartment.” https://bit.ly/Apple-Simonne-Rossi   * Jennifer Lee, who inspired conversations about legacy, family love letters, and “squeezing the juice” out of life. https://bit.ly/Apple-Jennifer-Lee   * Pascha Rose, who courageously shared her story of leaving a high-conflict marriage and depending role as an attorney to honor her role as a mother. https://bit.ly/Apple-Pascha-Rose   * Loren Larsen, whose real-estate expertise (and hilarious “limping antelope” metaphor) helped listeners approach the marital home strategically. https://bit.ly/Apple-Loren-Larsen   * Lisa Happ, who spoke with raw honesty about trauma, healing, and supporting clients through the most challenging moments. https://bit.ly/Apple-Lisa-Happ   Together, Mandy and Deanna reflect on how these conversations didn’t just help listeners—they changed the hosts too. They discuss learning to find levity in chaos, navigating grief, reframing difficult days, and embracing the personal growth that emerged throughout the year. Most meaningful of all are the testimonials from listeners who say the podcast helped them feel informed, supported, and less alone during one of life’s most overwhelming transitions. The episode closes with gratitude—between the co-hosts, for each other and the journey they’ve shared—and for every listener who’s walked alongside them this year. Here’s to Year Two of learning, laughing, healing, and helping families move forward with clarity and hope. Connect with Mandy and Deanna: [email protected]

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Deanna and Mandy welcome back one of Vesta’s favorite professionals, Dr. Susan Trotter, along with comedian, actress, and writer Kelly MacFarland, for a conversation that’s equal parts heartfelt, insightful, and laugh-out-loud funny. Susan shares how she knew at 15 that she wanted to be a therapist and how her own midlife reinvention, divorce, and transition into coaching shaped her passion for helping people rebuild their lives, improve their relationships, and date with confidence and intention. She talks about mindset, our relationship with ourselves, why it’s essential to understand the role we played in past relationships, and how challenging seasons can actually become our greatest growth opportunities. Kelly brings her signature humor and honesty to the realities of long-term partnership, COVID stress, and blended family life. She shares how she approached dating “differently this time,” what it was like to become a stepmom to her now 20-year-old stepson, and how she and her husband were intentional about introducing Kelly into his son’s life by building trust over time. Together, Susan and Kelly offer a warm, real-world look at blended families, co-parenting, and what it means to lead with authenticity—on stage, in relationships, and in life. In this episode, we explore: Why mindset and self-awareness are essential before dating again How to avoid repeating patterns in future relationships The emotional realities of starting over in midlife and beyond Practical tips for blending families and building trust with kids and step-kids The power of humor, gratitude, and authenticity when life doesn’t go as planned If you’re navigating divorce, dating again, or blending a family, this episode will leave you feeling seen, hopeful, and a little lighter—proof that your next chapter can be both meaningful and full of laughter. And be sure to watch Kelly's recent special, Hot Gnome 2025!  Check out Kelly's Hot Gnome 2025 Special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TSFuVXY_vI Connect with Susan: [email protected]

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we sit down with Loren Larsen — former family law attorney, top-producing Compass realtor, and founder of The Collective — to explore one of the most stressful and misunderstood parts of divorce: what to do with the marital home. Loren brings a rare combination of legal and real estate experience, offering deep insight into how to navigate the sale or purchase of a home during divorce. She explains why choosing the right realtor is just as important as choosing the right attorney, the biggest pitfalls couples face, and how the wrong real estate strategy can cost you money, time, and emotional well-being. We also dive into critical new changes, including: Massachusetts’ updated rules around home inspections The new tax withholding requirement for home sales over $1M The impact of deferred maintenance on your net proceeds How Compass Concierge can reduce stress and upfront costs If you’re thinking about selling your home, staying in it, or want to understand your options during divorce, Loren’s guidance will help you feel informed, supported, and empowered. Connect with Loren: https://thecollectiveatcompass.com/  or Email Loren: [email protected] Connect with Deanna and Mandy [email protected]

If you’re navigating narcissistic abuse, a high-conflict divorce, or the emotional chaos of the holidays, this conversation with Lisa Happ will give you clarity, comfort, and practical tools. Lisa Happ is a certified divorce and narcissistic abuse coach and a grief recovery specialist. She guides clients through trauma bonding, emotional recovery, and toxic relationship dynamics—and even travels nationwide to support clients directly in court. In this episode, we explore: How narcissistic abuse shows up in relationships What trauma bonding and the fawn response actually feel like Strategies for navigating high-conflict divorce How to get through the holidays when you’re separated, coparenting, or newly divorced Creating new traditions when your kids aren’t with you Nervous system tools to calm anxiety, overwhelm, and fear Scripts for setting boundaries with toxic or draining family members Whether you’re in the middle of a high-conflict divorce, leaving a narcissistic partner, or trying to survive the holidays emotionally intact, this episode offers hope, validation, and tangible steps forward. Connect with Lisa  Check out Lisa's Podcast: https://divorce-detox.com/ Learn more about Lisa: https://www.lisahapp.com/ Learn more about the Central Mass Hub: https://vestadivorce.com/central-ma-hub/

Feeling stuck in life—or in your divorce journey? In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, hosts Deanna Coyle, Co-Founder of Vesta: A New Vision for Divorce, and Mandy Barr, Strategic Managing Partner, share empowering insights from the Tony Robbins AI Advantage Summit on shifting from managing your circumstances to creating your life. Together, these Divorce Concierge Specialists explore the emotions that keep us stuck—fear, guilt, and uncertainty—and how to break those patterns through energy, mindset, and gratitude. Whether you’re contemplating divorce, navigating it, or rebuilding afterward, this conversation will help you find clarity, courage, and creative power. 🎙️ Brought to you by Vesta Divorce Concierge — personalized support for your next chapter. Reach out to the concierge team: [email protected] Schedule a call any time: https://calendly.com/mandybarr or https://calendy.com/deannacoyle Check out our book "Heal to Lead" - https://bit.ly/Heal-To-Lead 

From the Divorce Concierge team at Vesta: A New Vision for Divorce, elder law attorney Aaron Miller explains how families can protect their assets, navigate long-term care costs, and build a legacy with clarity during and after divorce. Presented by Vesta: A New Vision for Divorce, where we’ve built a better way for people to navigate the divorce process — through expert guidance, professional counseling, and a community of support before, during, and after divorce.  In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, your host and Vesta's co-founder, Deanna Coyle, speaks with elder law attorney Aaron Miller, founder of Miller Law Office in Plano, Texas. Aaron shares how a personal family experience led him to help others protect their legacies, avoid crushing long-term care costs, and maintain family harmony through thoughtful planning. They cover: • The real difference between a will and a revocable living trust — and why wills still go through probate • What Medicare, Medicaid, and VA benefits actually cover (and what they don’t) • Strategies for paying for long-term care without depleting assets • Why updating your estate plan after divorce is essential — including wills, trusts, and beneficiary designations • How to start the hard conversation with aging parents about care and planning • How often to revisit your estate plan and why This episode is packed with practical insights for anyone navigating divorce, caring for aging parents, or simply wanting to leave a smoother path for loved ones. Connect with Aaron: Website: aaronmillerlaw.com Phone: (214) 292-4225 Connect with Deanna and Mandy email: [email protected] Learn more about Vesta’s Divorce Concierge services: vestadivorce.com

“Divorce isn’t a weapon; it’s a tool of transformation." In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Deanna Coyle, Co-Founder of Vesta: A New Vision for Divorce and Concierge Director, sits down with Karen McNenny—mediator, divorce coach, therapist, TEDx speaker, and host of The Good Divorce Show—to reframe divorce as a tool for transformation, not a weapon. Drawing on 25+ years in human behavior and her own peaceful co-parenting journey, Karen shares practical ways to “divorce by design”: compost old hurts into growth, keep kids out of the middle, and replace ego battles with the mantra, “You can be right or you can make it right.” Together, they explore how to end your marriage without ending your family, turning what can feel like a painful ending into a healthy new beginning. Karen also discusses post-divorce dating (hello, “D-Orgasmic Era”), the case for workplace support during divorce, and simple habits—like shared family threads—that stitch two homes into one family story. As part of Vesta’s mission to educate and empower, Deanna highlights how working with a Divorce Concierge can help you find the right legal, financial, and emotional experts to guide your journey. Whether you’re seeking divorce support, mediation, or coaching near you, this conversation offers clarity, compassion, and hope for what’s next. Plus, don’t miss the sneak peek of Karen’s upcoming Wiley book, The Good Divorce: How to End Your Marriage Without Ending Your Family (coming May 2026). 00:00 Welcome & why “good divorce” is possible 04:00 Pantry → compost: a new grief framework 10:30 Divorce by design vs. default (and lawyers’ incentives) 18:45 Co-parenting ground rules: kids as the true client 28:00 Dating & the “D-orgasmic era” (boundaries + timelines) 36:30 Work, FMLA, and supporting employees in divorce 44:00 Scripts: “Be right vs. make it right” 50:00 Practical tools: family text threads, shared celebrations 56:00 Karen’s Wiley book + where to find her 59:00 Closing mantra: “If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.” Connect with Karen Connect with Karen McNenny: https://www.karenmcnenny.com/ Listen to the Good Divorce Podcast: https://www.karenmcnenny.com/good-divorce-show/ Connect with Vesta: Email concierge: [email protected]  Past episodes mentioned: Shame & Divorce: https://bit.ly/Apple-Blame-and-Shame Re-Entering the Workforce: https://bit.ly/Apple-Career-Options

Divorce changes everything — but it doesn’t have to destroy your finances or your peace of mind. In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, presented by Vesta: A New Vision for Divorce, hosts Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle speak with Jamie M. Lima, MBA, CFP®, CDFA®, Certified Mediator — Founder of Allegiant Divorce Solutions and Co-Founder/CEO of SecureSplit™, a groundbreaking divorce FinTech platform simplifying money decisions for clients and professionals. With nearly 20 years of experience in wealth management and divorce financial planning — including senior roles at Morgan Stanley and Fidelity Investments, where he managed more than $1 billion in assets — Jamie understands the financial and emotional realities of divorce firsthand. Having lived through his own divorce after watching his parents’ separation, Jamie blends expertise and empathy to help others create stability, clarity, and confidence in one of life’s most challenging transitions. Together, we explore: The two biggest divorce money mistakes and how to avoid them How to build “Team You” — your trusted divorce attorney, CDFA®, divorce coach, and emotional support network Why early financial planning is critical before filing for divorce How modern tools like SecureSplit™ empower both clients and professionals with real-time financial clarity 🎙 Listen now to learn how to protect your future, rebuild your wealth, and move through divorce with clarity, confidence, and support. Connect with Jamie Website: https://allegiantds.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1445727706255413/

Divorce is hard enough — but the tax fallout can be brutal. In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle talk with tax attorney Hubert Johnson about how to protect yourself from hidden IRS surprises, avoid costly filing mistakes, and take back control of your financial future. Hubert shares essential tips, including: Why you should never ignore an IRS letter — and how to tell if it’s real or a scam When “Married Filing Separately” can save you thousands How to protect yourself from a spouse’s unpaid tax debt The difference between a CPA and a tax attorney — and when to call each Simple steps to prevent identity theft and IRS headaches Whether you’re separated, divorcing, or rebuilding, this candid conversation will help you file smarter, protect your finances, and move forward with confidence. 🎧 Listen now to learn how smart tax moves can protect your next chapter. Connect with Hubert Website: https://guardiantaxlaw.com/about/ Email: [email protected]

What happens when two life transitions collide — divorce and menopause? In this powerful and deeply relatable episode, Dishing on Divorce hosts Mandy Barr and Deanna Coyle sit down with Wendi Francis, a bestselling author, nationally recognized nutritionist, and women’s wellness expert, to explore the connection between hormones, emotions, and healing during midlife. Wendi shares her personal story of navigating perimenopause and divorce simultaneously, offering compassionate insight into what so many women experience but rarely discuss. Together, they unpack: The emotional overlap between hormones and heartbreak Why menopause is not a crisis — it’s a catalyst for growth The top three symptoms most women face (and how to manage them) How nutrition and mindset can stabilize mood and energy What employers and loved ones can do to better support women in midlife This episode is honest, hopeful, and packed with practical takeaways for anyone experiencing — or supporting someone through — significant life transitions. 🎧 Tune in wherever you listen to podcasts and discover why midlife might be the most powerful chapter yet. #DishingOnDivorce #MenopauseAwareness #MidlifeWomen #DivorceSupport #HormoneHealth #EmotionalWellness #HealingJourney #WendiFrancis #Podcast Contact Wendi: Email: [email protected] Website: https://konenkims.com/

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, hosts Mandy Barr and Deanna Coyle dive into a topic that so many divorce survivors face: how do you reenter the workforce after years (or even decades) of being a stay-at-home parent? Deanna shares her personal journey from a successful Wall Street career to full-time parenting, as well as the challenges she faced when trying to reestablish her professional life after her separation. Mandy offers her own perspective on balancing career, marriage, and motherhood — and the difficult choices that often come with it. Together, they unpack: The realities of reentering the workforce after a career break How “hidden” skills from parenting and volunteering (negotiation, organization, time management) translate into marketable strengths Stories of resilience, reinvention, and turning passion into a career Practical tips for exploring new career paths, networking, volunteering, and building confidence The importance of mindset, reframing your narrative, and seeking support from coaches or vocational experts This candid and inspiring conversation reminds listeners that it’s never too late to start fresh, discover new passions, and create a fulfilling career after divorce. ✨ Takeaway: You are stronger and more capable than you think — and your next chapter may be your best one yet. Contact Deanna and Mandy: [email protected]

Clear strategies for tuition, savings, and student loans when divorce complicates college planning. Financial Planner and CDFA® Lars Lambrecht shares practical ways to handle college costs during divorce: agreement language, 529s vs. Roths, federal vs. private loans, repayment/forgiveness, and small steps that add up. Divorce + college costs = overwhelm. In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, we’re joined by Lars Lambrecht, CFP®, CDFA® — financial planner, program manager of Vesta’s Southern MA & RI Hub, and founder of Island Time Financial Services. With over 30 years of experience, Lars brings both professional expertise and personal perspective, having navigated divorce as both a parent and child. What we cover in this episode: What to include in your divorce agreement about tuition and why “ability to pay” language matters The pros and cons of 529 plans, Roth IRAs, and UTMA accounts When to rely on federal vs. private student loans Repayment and forgiveness programs every parent should know Why life insurance is often overlooked in college planning Lars’ mantra: small changes add up over time About Lars Lars Lambrecht, CFP®, CDFA®, is the founder of Island Time Financial Services and program manager for Vesta’s Southern Massachusetts and Rhode Island Hub. He helps clients reduce stress, simplify their financial lives, and move forward with confidence. Contact Lars: https://www.islandtimefinancialservices.com/ 📌 Subscribe for more expert conversations on divorce, co-parenting, finances, and rebuilding life with clarity and confidence.

In this episode, we sit down with Melissa Hoyer, affectionately nicknamed The Inheritor Whisperer. Melissa is a Certified Financial Planner, life coach, and wealth coach at The Wealth Conservancy. She specializes in guiding women in transition who receive a financial windfall—whether through a divorce settlement or an inheritance. With nearly 20 years of experience, she combines traditional financial planning with life coaching, helping clients navigate not only the numbers but also the complex emotions that accompany sudden or significant wealth. Melissa shares why money is never “just numbers” but is deeply tied to our emotions, stories, and sense of self-worth. She explains how wealth shifts can trigger fear, guilt, shame, or uncertainty—and how her process blends financial planning with life coaching to help clients integrate these changes, align their money with their values, and turn finances into a source of confidence and possibility. Key takeaways include: How to separate net worth from self-worth and rewrite limiting money stories. The stages of “money maturity” after a windfall and how to move from overwhelm to confidence. Understanding money personalities (like Accumulators, Connectors, and Alchemists) and how they shape habits. Why the “decision-free zone” after divorce or inheritance is crucial for wise choices. The role of abundance, generosity, and mindset in creating financial peace. Melissa also shares her own journey—from unexpectedly entering the world of financial planning as a French major, to discovering her passion for supporting clients through life’s most significant transitions. As a mom raising a teenage daughter, she brings both professional expertise and personal wisdom, emphasizing the importance of teaching self-love, resilience, and financial confidence. This conversation is a powerful reminder that healing our relationship with money starts with healing our relationship with ourselves. Connect with Melissa Website: https://www.thewealthconservancy.com/about-us/melissa-hoyer/ Coaching Program: Way Into Wealth~ https://www.wayintowealth.com/

In this powerful episode, Mandy Pullen Barr sits down with Pascha Rose, a California-based family law attorney, certified divorce coach, mediator, and collaborative professional. For nearly three decades, Pascha has helped families navigate premarital agreements, divorce, and post-divorce transitions with compassion and clarity. Pascha shares how she pivoted from high-conflict litigation to mediation and coaching, creating a more holistic and client-centered practice. She opens up about the moment that changed everything for her as a young mother and attorney — and the profoundly personal divorce journey that shaped her work today. Together, they explore: Why mediation and coaching can be powerful alternatives to courtroom litigation What to look for in the right legal team if court is unavoidable How a divorce coach can save you time, money, and emotional energy The importance of protecting children from conflict, not divorce itself Pascha’s own story of resilience, rebuilding, and creating a beautiful next chapter Their candid conversation is filled with practical advice, heartfelt storytelling, and a reminder that even in the most challenging moments, your next chapter can be your best chapter. ✨ Learn more about Pascha’s work, workshops, and retreats at https://www.pascharoselaw.com/ ✨ Join Pascha's Facebook Group: Divorce Matters: from heartbreak to healing

Financial advisor, author, and founder of Modern Wealth, Jennifer Lee, joins us to talk about money, meaning, and how to squeeze the juice out of life. With nearly 30 years of experience, Jennifer has guided women through significant life transitions, particularly divorce, helping them make informed and confident financial decisions. In this episode, Jennifer shares the story of her late father’s “Family Love Letter” and how it inspired her to help others capture not just financial details, but values, wishes, and wisdom for loved ones. We also dive into: The biggest financial mistakes people make during divorce (and how to avoid them) Why money is really a tool for love, legacy, and choice Simple ways to rebuild after divorce, starting with your discretionary number How a “Squeeze the Juice” account can bring more joy and freedom to your life Jennifer’s book, Squeeze the Juice, blends heartfelt stories, financial expertise, and practical exercises that will change the way you think about planning for the future. ✨ Whether you’re navigating divorce, rebuilding afterward, or want to live more intentionally, this conversation will leave you empowered to take control of your money and your life. Disclaimer: Discussions in this show should not be construed as specific recommendations or investment advice. Always consult with your investment professional before making important investment decisions. Securities offered through Registered Representatives of Cambridge Investment Research, Inc., a broker-dealer, member FINRA/SIPC. Advisory services offered through Cambridge Investment Research Advisors, Inc., a Registered Investment Advisor. Modern-Wealth, LLC and Cambridge are not affiliated. Connect with Jennifer Website: https://modern-wealth.com/ Schedule a call: Squeeze the Juice Call Order her book: https://squeezethejuicebook.com/

Blended families are complex — and love alone isn’t always enough. In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, hosts Deanna Coyle and Mandy Pullen Barr sit down with April Eldemire, nationally recognized marriage and family therapist, stepfamily expert, and founder of Couples Thrive. With over 13 years of experience and advanced training in the Gottman Method and Emotionally Focused Couples Therapy, April brings both research-based tools and lived experience to the conversation. Together, they dive into: Why building bonds in blended families takes 5–7 years (and why patience matters) The misconceptions couples often bring into stepfamily life — and how to reset expectations Why “love is the spark, not the glue” that holds families together The silent challenges of loyalty binds, parenting misalignment, and the hidden mental load of stepparents Simple tools to move from reactivity to genuine connection, including curiosity, mindfulness, and alignment rituals April also shares insights from her new program, The Blended Family Alignment Blueprint, a step-by-step course designed to help couples shift from chaos to clarity, create a united front, and build emotionally safe homes. Whether you’re a parent, stepparent, or supporting someone navigating divorce and remarriage, this episode offers real-world wisdom, practical tools, and hope for the journey ahead. 🎧 Listen now and discover how curiosity, alignment, and intentional connection can transform blended family life. Connect with April Website: https://www.couples-thrive.com/ Learn more about the Blended Family Alignment Blueprint: https://www.couples-thrive.com/services/the-blended-family-course

In this episode, we welcome Myrna Laine-Hyppolite, CFO, wealth strategist, speaker, and founder of Empower Financial Wellness. Myrna’s journey into financial empowerment began with her mother’s divorce, which left her without a financial safety net. Watching her mother and other women struggle inspired Myrna to dedicate her career to helping women build confidence, financial literacy, and long-term wealth. Armed with an Ivy League education (Dartmouth undergrad and MBA from Tuck) and decades of experience in finance, private equity, and corporate leadership, Myrna now focuses on breaking down money management into plain, accessible language. She believes financial wellness is one of the most overlooked forms of self-care and is passionate about bridging the wealth gap for women. Myrna reminds us that money touches every part of our lives, and caring for our financial wellness is a profound act of self-care. Her practical wisdom and empowering approach make the overwhelming feel achievable. Join her for a Free Masterclass — Aug 26, 7:00 PM ET: Reclaim Your Confidence, Reinvent Your Wealth & Rise After Divorce with Myrna Laine-Hyppolite & Lea Gerlock. Use this link to register: https://bit.ly/MasterClassAug26.  Connect with Myrna: https://empowerfinancialwellness.com/

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, host Mandy Barr chats with Jennifer Chaney, a Real Estate Agent, investor, and strategist, about navigating one of the most emotional decisions in divorce: what to do with the marital home. Drawing from her personal experience, Jennifer shares invaluable insights, including four key tips for deciding whether to keep or sell your home. Jennifer emphasizes the importance of understanding your future goals, knowing your financial numbers, and evaluating your options carefully. She also highlights the importance of seeking professional guidance, noting the value of having a knowledgeable "divorce dream team" to help you through the process. Tune in to learn how to make a more informed and balanced decision about your home, and get the tools you need to navigate this complex aspect of divorce with confidence. Contact Jennifer Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.jenniferchaneyhomes.com/

Fear of the unknown can feel overwhelming, especially during divorce. In this raw and honest episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna explore the most common fears people face: financial insecurity, parenting worries, identity loss, and the big question… “Will I be okay?” They share their own stories, break down the mindset traps that keep people stuck, and offer tangible ways to move forward. From understanding your rights and protecting your finances to finding the right words for your kids, this episode is full of wisdom, compassion, and practical advice. Whether you're at the beginning of your divorce or on the road to rebuilding, you're not alone. And as Mandy reminds us, fear is often just False Evidence Appearing Real. Contact Us- [email protected] Check out our book, Heal to Lead: https://bit.ly/Heal-To-Lead

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, host Mandy Pullen Barr welcomes Laura McGee, J.D., founder of Leave Strong Divorce Services and a trusted Vesta professional. With a law degree from the University of British Columbia and over four decades of experience, Laura brings a unique blend of legal expertise, mediation skills, and compassionate coaching to her clients in California and beyond. Laura works with people in one of two ways: As a neutral mediator for couples, she helps both parties reach peaceful resolutions through a flat-fee, client-centered approach. As an individual divorce coach, she guides clients through the emotional and strategic aspects of divorce. Together, Mandy and Laura explore: The difference between working with Laura as a coach vs. a mediator—and why you can’t be both. How Laura’s Canadian legal background informs her U.S. mediation and coaching practice. The benefits of flat-fee mediation, flexible scheduling, and transparency in process and cost. Laura’s expertise is in co-parenting plans and support for reorganized families. Key questions to ask when interviewing divorce professionals to ensure the right fit. Whether you're contemplating divorce or already deep in the process, Laura’s grounded, strategic approach helps clients move forward with clarity and confidence. Learn more at Leave Strong Divorce Services: www.leavestrong.com Do you have a question or would you like to connect? Email us at [email protected].

In this heartfelt episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna get real about one of the most personal and challenging parts of divorce: the emotional weight of shame and blame. From neighborhood parties that feel like the walk of shame to well-meaning comments that linger for years, they unpack the hidden narratives we tell ourselves—and how to rewrite them. They share personal stories, including mom guilt, generational wounds, and the journey to self-acceptance. You'll also hear about the healing tools that helped them shift from pain to power: mindfulness, journaling, reframing thoughts, and reconnecting with the present moment. Plus, don't miss the announcement of their upcoming live event with Dr. Thomas Jordan in NYC—and why they believe divorce is not a failure, but a chance to begin again with clarity and courage. Key Topics: The “Scarlet Letter” of divorce Rewriting your internal story Mindfulness and emotional regulation Letting go of guilt and self-blame Self-love and starting over Heal to Lead: Volume One – Featuring chapters by both Mandy and Deanna Grab your copy here: https://bit.ly/Heal-To-Lead Questions or feedback? We’d love to hear from you: [email protected] 

This week on Dishing on Divorce, we sit down with Kristyna Hawkett, founder of the UK-based Minus One Club and a certified Separation & Divorce Coach, who’s transforming how people experience divorce. With roots in both the Czech Republic and England, Kristyna brings a powerful blend of emotional insight and practical guidance to her work, helping clients navigate divorce with clarity and confidence. After enduring her own two-year divorce and feeling lost in a maze of disconnected professionals, Kristyna created the Minus One Club to offer the cohesive, compassionate support she wished she had. She now helps clients understand the legal process, regulate their emotions, and build better communication with their legal teams. In this episode, we dive into the disconnect between emotional needs and legal realities, the most common myths people believe about divorce, and how working with a divorce coach can reduce stress, save money, and set you up for a healthier next chapter. If you're going through a divorce—or guiding someone who is—this episode is full of practical tools, hope, and heart.   Contact Kristyna Hawkett Website: https://www.minusone.club/about-us Email: [email protected]

In this powerful episode, Deanna Coyle and Mandy Pullen Barr open up about the most common—and costly—divorce mistakes they’ve made personally and seen repeatedly in their work with Vesta. From letting emotions drive decisions to misusing professionals and overlooking post-divorce financial realities, they share candid lessons and practical strategies to help you avoid unnecessary heartache and expense. They also emphasize the importance of assembling the right support team, including divorce coaches, financial experts, and consulting attorneys, and guiding co-parenting with intention and grace. Whether you’re contemplating divorce or already deep in the process, this episode is packed with insights that can save you time, money, and stress. Takeaways include: How to avoid emotionally driven decisions The true cost of “going it alone” Financial traps that can derail your future Why using the right expert at the right time matters Real talk about parenting through divorce Resources Mentioned: Top Ten Divorce Mistakes and How to Avoid Them: https://vod.vestadivorce.com/ Vesta's Interview Guide: https://bit.ly/DivorceInterviewGuide Connect Deanna and Mandy: [email protected]  Subscribe, share, and remember: You are not alone. You got this.

What happens when divorce and business ownership collide? In this episode, attorney, mediator, and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® Amanda Singer joins us to unpack the financial and legal complexities that come with divorcing as a business owner or being married to one. With over a decade of experience guiding couples through peaceful, strategic resolution, Amanda shares her top insights on: How a business is treated as both an asset and a source of income The risks of relying solely on tax returns to determine financial reality When to bring in a business valuation — and what it can protect you from Smart, creative options for buyouts, co-ownership, and structured settlements The unique power of mediation in complex financial divorces Whether you’re running the business, supporting it, or trying to figure out what’s fair, this episode is packed with practical guidance and eye-opening truths that can save you time, money, and stress. Contact Amanda Singer, Esq., MDR, CDFA® Website: http://westcoastfamilymediation.com/amanda-d-singer/

In this powerful episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy Pullen Barr welcomes co-mediators Carolyn Laredo and Jim Bell to explore the transformative impact of co-mediation in divorce. With over 40 years of combined experience, this dynamic duo combines backgrounds in law, psychology, sociology, and education to help couples resolve conflicts, communicate more effectively, and reach durable, respectful agreements. Carolyn and Jim discuss how having two professionals of different genders and skillsets in the room reduces bias, improves communication, and empowers clients to move from “we” to “I” to identify and voice their personal needs. They share their use of transformative mediation techniques, insights from court-referred and high-conflict cases, and the value of debriefing after sessions to refine their approach continually. They also highlight: The use of caucusing for safety or emotional productivity How mediation supports long-term co-parenting and minimizes future legal battles Real-life examples of clients transforming their communication and mindset during the process How their work is fueled by their personal experiences with divorce and single parenthood The episode highlights how co-mediation promotes empowerment, self-awareness, and lasting resolutions, all while enabling clients to develop the skills necessary to navigate life after divorce, not just the legal separation itself. Contact Carolyn Laredo, Esq. Email: [email protected] Website: www.lawmediationny.com

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, host Mandy Pullen Barr welcomes special guest Kary Watson, a seasoned family law attorney and founder of Together You Part, a groundbreaking online mediation practice based in Charlotte, North Carolina. With over 20 years of experience, Kary shares her powerful journey from a high-conflict, aggressive divorce litigator—known as the “bulldog”—to a compassionate mediator dedicated to transforming the divorce process into a collaborative, cost-effective, and respectful experience. Kary opens up about the personal toll her early litigation career took on her and her family. These wake-up moments inspired her to seek a better way, and she eventually launched Together You Part to offer divorcing couples an innovative alternative grounded in emotional intelligence and transformative mediation. The episode delves into Kary’s unique five-step virtual mediation process, which centers on each individual’s “why,” fosters safe one-on-one conversations with mediators, promotes realistic timelines and flat fees, and culminates in a heartfelt closing ceremony, offering clients closure, clarity, and intention as they transition into their new lives. Mandy and Kary also discuss the evolving landscape of family law, generational shifts in attorney burnout, the importance of holistic support, including coaches and financial analysts, and how to navigate complex cases involving high conflict or power imbalances. Listeners will gain insight into how divorce can be handled with dignity rather than destruction, empowering them to be educated consumers and advocates for themselves throughout the process. Tune in for this inspiring conversation full of wisdom, heart, and hope that challenges the traditional divorce narrative and highlights a better way forward. Contact Kary Email: [email protected]

In this episode of Dishing on Divorce, Mandy and Deanna delve into the emotional rollercoaster that accompanies navigating divorce. They discuss how grief, uncertainty, loneliness, and even moments of joy can surface, sometimes all within a single day. Together, they emphasize the importance of processing your “emotional divorce” before diving fully into the legal and financial aspects. Through their work at Vesta, they’ve seen how critical it is to have not only legal and financial professionals but also therapists, coaches, and a strong support network to guide individuals through the ups and downs. Mandy and Deanna share personal experiences and practical insights on coping strategies that support healing, including yoga and Reiki, as well as running, journaling, building community, and volunteering. They also offer advice on avoiding common pitfalls, such as overspending or venting on social media, and remind listeners to practice self-compassion and patience as they navigate their path forward. Above all, this episode encourages listeners to lean into support, honor their emotional journey, and believe that the next chapter can be filled with growth, connection, and new possibilities. Contact Mandy and Deanna  Email: [email protected] Phone: (877) 355-7649 Check out their book: https://bit.ly/Heal-to-Lead

In this inspiring episode, Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle welcome Charmaine Panko, collaborative family lawyer, mediator, and founder of Panko Collaborative Law & Mediation in Saskatchewan, Canada. Charmaine shares how her unexpected path into family law became her life’s mission: helping families navigate conflict with dignity, empathy, and common sense (or as she calls it, cowboy logic, thanks to her practical-minded father!). Charmaine passionately unpacks the collaborative law model, where lawyers, child specialists, mental health professionals, and financial neutrals come together under one roof — not as adversaries, but as problem solvers — to design customized solutions for families, especially those with unique needs or high-conflict dynamics. She challenges the outdated adversarial system, advocating for future models that respect the individuality of each family, as well as that of each child. Charmaine’s work is about more than just legal resolutions; it’s about shaping peaceful futures, reducing trauma, and empowering families to make decisions that truly reflect their values. We also delve into her role as an educator and mentor, exploring why public education matters and how helping others, including clients and younger professionals, fuels her passion for transforming the field of family law. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking a more human, heart-centered approach to divorce — one where the children’s future, family well-being, and common sense take center stage. Contact Charmaine Panko Email: [email protected] Website: https://commonsenselawyer.com/ Contact Deanna and Mandy Email: [email protected] Call: (877) 355-7649

This Week on Dishing on Divorce: Navigating the Complexities of Stepparenting & Blended Families In this heartwarming and deeply personal episode, hosts Mandy Pullen Barr and Deanna Coyle explore the often unspoken challenges—and surprising joys—of stepparenting, co-parenting, and blended family life. Joining them is the remarkable Maria Natapov, founder of Synergistic Step Parenting and host of the Synergistic Step Parenting Podcast. With over 12 years of lived experience as a stepparent and a background in trauma-informed coaching, Maria shares her powerful personal journey: stepping unexpectedly into full-time parenting during a family crisis, ultimately becoming the legal mom to her stepdaughter, and transforming her challenges into a thriving coaching practice. Together, Mandy, Deanna, and Maria explore: The emotional layers and cultural stigmas around stepparenting (goodbye, wicked stepmother trope) How to set healthy boundaries and build authentic, trust-filled relationships in blended families Why “you knew what you signed up for” is one of the biggest misconceptions Tools for parents and stepparents to create safe, open communication with kids — and why the stories children tell themselves after divorce matter so much How Maria works with families to move from chaos to connection, empowering both adults and kids to thrive Mandy and Deanna also reflect on their own blended family experiences, sharing candid moments of what worked, what didn’t, and how important it is to have the right resources and support. Whether you’re a stepparent, co-parent, bonus parent, or someone navigating love and family after divorce, this episode offers wisdom, humor, and practical takeaways you won’t miss. Listen now, subscribe, and leave us a 5-star review — and remember, your next chapter might just be your best one yet. Contact Maria Email: [email protected] Website: https://synergisticstepparenting.com/