Facilitating Change: How to create transformative spaces that inspire, empower & drive real change

In this episode, Mentor sits down with Elizabeth Werbe, a heart-centered coach, facilitator, and program designer who has spent more than two decades supporting social change leaders. Elizabeth’s work has taken her across leading educational and cultural institutions - from Barnard College, Obama Foundation, The New School to the Smithsonian - and her focus has always been the same: helping people discover what makes them come alive and use their gifts in service of their communities. This conversation explores what it means to lead from the heart, why inner change must come before outer change, and how circles can help people see themselves more clearly, build trust, and move through fear with courage. Elizabeth shares how her own journey - shaped by perfectionism, wilderness leadership, the loss of her mother, and a powerful experience working with Tibetan refugee youth in Dharamsala - taught her to drop her protective armor and connect more deeply with her own heart. Together, Mentor and Elizabeth dive into: The real meaning of heart-centered leadership Why we often teach what we most need to learn How community, consistency, and shared intention build trust The practice of circles and why they help people uncover patterns and blind spots Why slowing down is essential in a culture of urgency How grief, suffering, and challenge can deepen compassion The role of art, nature, and creativity in supporting transformation Why relational capacity is foundational, not “kumbaya” Elizabeth also reflects on two quotes that guide her work: “When you show up authentic, you create the space for others to do the same,” and Howard Thurman’s reminder to “ask what makes you come alive.” These ideas run through her life, her facilitation, and her belief that the most courageous thing we can do is come from the heart. Find Elizabeth on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethwerbe/ 

In this Thanksgiving week, we bring you one of the most moving conversations we have ever had on Facilitating Change. Mentor sits down with two remarkable leaders from READ Global: Sanjana Shrestha and Swathi Massar. Their work spans rural Nepal, India, and Bhutan, where they support communities in building community-led libraries and resource centers that unlock dignity, agency, and long-term change. This episode goes deep into what real facilitation looks like in places where people have been told for generations that they have no power. Sanjana and Swathi share stories of bonded laborers, women who were once considered untouchable, and entire villages that shifted from “this is our fate” to “we are the authors of our own future.” They show us how deep listening, humility, patience, and shared humanity can transform whole systems. You will hear stories of: – How a simple tent became the first “library” in a brick kiln community – What it takes to earn trust in places where outsiders usually create dependency – Why facilitation is not a method but a way of being – The five kinds of patience needed to help communities lead their own change – How READ centers are built, owned, and sustained by the community itself – Why not a single READ center has closed in 35 years This is a conversation about dignity, trust, and the kind of change that lasts because people own it. A Thanksgiving Invitation This week, as we reflect on gratitude, we also have a chance to support work that is helping families create real freedom and possibility for the next generation. If this episode moves you, consider supporting READ Global. General information: www.readglobal.org Donate here: www.readglobal.org/empower Even a small contribution makes a meaningful difference, especially now when global funding is shifting and the work depends on community-paced, patient, human facilitation. If you’re looking for a place to give during Thanksgiving week, this is the organization Mentor is choosing to champion. Thank you for listening, for supporting, and for being part of a community that believes in change shaped by the people living it. Enjoy the episode.

What does it take to truly live your work as a facilitator, teacher, or leader? In this episode, Mentor Dida sits down with Dylan Ayaloo - also known as the Inner Work Guy. Dylan is a facilitator of transformation, a yoga teacher of teachers, and a healer who has helped thousands of high-achievers release burnout, heal emotional patterns, and reconnect with their purpose. Dylan shares his journey from full-contact martial arts training for the Olympics into yoga, meditation, and deep inner work. Together they explore what “inner work” actually means, why awakening is simply waking up from the hypnosis of the mind, and how loosening our grip on fixed identities can change the way we teach, lead, and learn. This conversation dives into how to design spaces - in education, work, and group settings - where people feel safe enough to be real, ask “Who am I?”, and step into the unknown together. In this episode, you’ll hear about: Dylan’s turning point from physical mastery to inner mastery What inner work looks like across body, mind, and energy Why awakening is about seeing through the noise of the mind The danger of rigid identities and how to hold them more lightly What it takes to facilitate real transformation in a group Links Website: www.dylanayaloo.com Instagram: instagram.com/dylanayaloo  Facebook: facebook.com/dylanisms YouTube: youtube.com/@DylanAyaloo

In this thought-provoking episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor Dida sits down with educator, facilitator, author, and mother Daniela Papi-Thornton to explore what it truly means to transform systems—starting with ourselves. Daniela shares her journey from founding a youth education organization in Cambodia to reshaping how institutions around the world teach social innovation. Together, they unpack the deeper purpose of education, the myth of “fixing” systems, and why inner work is central to creating outer change. Daniela challenges traditional models of leadership and entrepreneurship, revealing how systems are “perfectly designed to get the results they’re getting”—and what it takes to shift them toward well-being and wholeness. Listeners will come away with a renewed understanding of systems-led leadership, the importance of mental models, and practical insights for educators and changemakers who want to contribute to the next era of learning and transformation. Guest Bio: Daniela Papi-Thornton is an educator, facilitator, and author whose work focuses on systems-led leadership—an approach to social innovation that centers on systems understanding. She is currently a lecturer at the University of Colorado Boulder and a consultant to education organizations, foundations, and for-profits committed to systems change. She previously served as Deputy Director of the Skoll Centre for Social Entrepreneurship at Oxford’s Saïd Business School and has lectured at Yale School of Management, Watson Institute, and Dartmouth College. Daniela designed the Impact Gaps Canvas, launched the Map the System competition now hosted by over 50 institutions, and co-authored Learning Service and The 55 Minutes. Her influential report Tackling Heropreneurship and TEDx Talk Reclaiming Social Entrepreneurship have shaped a global conversation around reimagining social change. Learn more about Daniela’s work and join the Systems Change Educators community at systemschangeeducatorsunite.com. Links: Systems Change Educators Unite Impact Gaps Canvas Map the System Daniela’s TEDx Talk – Reclaiming Social Entrepreneurship Learning Service (Book) Enjoy! 

In this conversation, Mentor Dida and Cole Hoover break down Harvard Business Review’s “Every Team Needs a Super-Facilitator” by Jamil Zaki and connect it to what we’ve learned from dozens of world-class spaceholders on Facilitating Change. We unpack the article’s three pillars - attunement, communication, and distribution—and translate them into practical moves for leaders who want meetings that actually create progress.  What you’ll learn How super facilitators sense the room, name tensions, and invite quieter voices without losing momentum. Harvard Business Review Ways to communicate with clarity and care, so challenge fuels learning instead of shutdown. How to “keep the ball moving” so contribution is distributed and collective intelligence shows up.  When to open the door wide vs. curate the room, and why design before the meeting often determines the outcome. Tactics for power dynamics: naming power, creating structure, and using small groups to share airtime. Why movement, somatic cues, and thoughtful transitions matter—onsite and on Zoom. The “time paradox” of transformation: planting seeds, holding patience, still delivering value now. Who this episode is for Leaders, facilitators, learning designers, team coaches, and anyone responsible for turning a group’s time together into real change. Links Harvard Business Review: Every Team Needs a Super-Facilitator — Jamil Zaki. Harvard Business Review Zach Mercurio on The Power of Mattering. Zach Mercurio+1 Adam Kahane, Power and Love (book). PenguinRandomhouse.com David Ehrlichman, Impact Networks (book). PenguinRandomhouse.com+1 Jeff Hittner, Ambitious Dads (Substack). https://ambitiousdads.substack.com/  If this episode lands, share it with a colleague who runs meetings, trainings, or retreats—then try one small shift this week: name a tension, rotate a role, or redesign one agenda to distribute contribution.

This episode flips the script - no guest, no prep, just me answering your questions in real time. Together we dig into the messy, human side of facilitation and what it really takes to hold a room. The some questions I unpack: What’s the real difference between being a teacher and being a facilitator? How do you keep a session alive when the group goes completely silent? What’s the biggest mistake facilitators make - and how do you recover when it happens? Where's the field going? Along the way, I share personal stories, raw lessons, and small mindset shifts that can change how you show up in any space. Think of it as sitting down with me after a workshop, where nothing’s polished and everything’s honest.

What does it take to design learning spaces where everyone feels they belong - not just as participants, but as full human beings? In this episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor sits down with Shaheen, an inclusive learning designer and founder of Ta’leem Consulting. From growing up in a small town in India to shaping inclusive learning and leadership programs across Australia, Shaheen’s story is a testament to the power of education as both a leveler and a liberator. Together, we explore: Why education must go beyond content delivery and start with connection before content. The role of inclusive design in everyday learning and work - not as an HR checkbox, but as a mindset that shapes culture. How to hold space for complexity, balance openness with boundaries, and protect group well-being. Why conversations, stories, and even silence are vital tools for learning in an age of distraction. Practical strategies for designing spaces that honor mental health, diversity, and the unseen “backpacks” people carry with them. Shaheen also shares her Inclusive Learning Framework, a practical tool for teams and organizations who want to embed equity and inclusion at their core. And for Facilitating Change listeners, she’s offering an exclusive 20% discount - just book a discovery call here and share what resonated with you from this episode. This is a conversation for facilitators, educators, leaders, and anyone who believes learning should unlock human potential - not shut it down. Links: About Shaheen: taleemconsulting.com/about LinkedIn: Shaheen Hajira Inclusive Learning Framework: taleemconsulting.com/audits

Some people stumble into facilitation. Mansi Jasuja designed her way here - literally. From practicing architecture in India to working with the UN and EU on environmental projects, her path has been anything but linear. What unites it all? A deep calling to serve, to listen, and to create spaces where people belong. Rooted in her Sikh heritage, her yoga practice, and a lifelong love for the planet, Mansi calls herself a warrior of the heart. Over the past 15 years, she’s turned her focus toward facilitation, participatory leadership, and systems change - helping groups move beyond business-as-usual into collaboration, equity, and bold collective action. In this conversation, Mansi and Mentor explore what facilitation really looks like when it’s rooted in values and purpose - and why it matters for anyone leading change today. You’ll walk away with both inspiration and practical tools you can apply right away. Together, they dive into: How Mansi’s journey from architecture to environmental work to facilitation shaped the way she designs spaces for learning and collaboration. Why belonging is the hidden superpower of facilitation - and how to intentionally create it in any group. The role of values - like social justice, equality, and sewa (service) - in designing meaningful conversations and processes. The Art of Hosting and Harvesting: what it means to create participatory spaces where everyone’s voice can shape the outcome, and how to capture the wisdom that emerges. What it looks like to host at the edges and tend to the margins, where unheard and unseen voices rise to lead. Simple, practical ways facilitators can bring more depth, heart, and play into their work. Mansi reminds us that facilitation isn’t about standing in front of the room - it’s about holding space with courage, presence, and care. If you’re curious about how to design conversations that spark real change - and why the edges often hold the most powerful voices - this episode will inspire you to step into your own practice with fresh eyes. Connect with Mansi Jasuja LinkedIn: Mansi Jasuja

Episode Description What happens when you combine the art of community building, the craft of learning experience design, and the skill of facilitation? That’s where Anamaria Dorgo lives. A learning strategist and community architect, she helps organizations create spaces where people connect, grow, and transform - whether it’s launching L&D Shakers, a global community of 8,000+ learning professionals; building peer-learning networks for distributed teams; or facilitating programs that help first-time leaders build confidence, break silos, and share best practices across cultures. In this episode, Anamaria and Mentor explore: Why communities of practice are powerful drivers of connection, innovation, and change. The difference between a network and a community - and why it matters. How learning experience design shapes community journeys. The role of facilitation in creating safe, participatory spaces that invite diverse perspectives. Common mistakes organizations make when building communities - and how to avoid them. The future of communities in an AI-powered world, and why “being human” is still our competitive advantage. Anamaria shares her own journey from psychology and HR into facilitation and community leadership, the lessons she’s learned from building global communities of practice, and practical strategies for making communities both vibrant and sustainable. If you’ve ever wondered how to create spaces where people feel they belong, contribute, and grow - this conversation will give you clarity, inspiration, and tools you can apply right away. Connect with AnaMaria Dorgo LinkedIn: Anamaria Dorgo Newsletter – The IRrEGULAR LEtTER: Subscribe here Podcast – Mapping Ties: Listen here

What happens when you sit down for 30 conversations with some of the most thoughtful facilitators on the planet? You start to see patterns. You start to feel shifts. And you begin to realize: facilitation isn’t a technique - it’s a way of being. In this milestone episode, Mentor and Cole turn the mics on themselves to reflect on the journey so far. Together, they revisit the moments that cracked something open, the insights that lingered long after the recording stopped, and the deep themes that showed up across every single interview. You’ll hear stories and lessons about: Why great facilitators are like tuned instruments - able to read a room, feel what’s needed, and not flinch when things get messy. How setting the space (physically, emotionally, energetically) is just as important as what happens in the space. The myth of the "perfect session" and the beauty of designing for seasons, not single events. Reimagining power - not as something to hold, but as something to share. The surprising reason so many amazing space holders don’t even call themselves facilitators. This episode is equal parts celebration and invitation. We’re not just looking back - we’re asking forward. If you’ve been listening and learning with us, now’s your chance: What questions are still alive for you? What spaces are you trying to transform? And what kind of world could we build if we all learned to hold space a little better? Mentioned in this episode: The Soil of Leadership by Britt Yamamoto Love and Power by Adam Kahane SessionLab’s State of Facilitation Report The magic of Jeff Hitler, Greg, Natasha, Vipul, and many more past guests Coming Soon: A special series on Facilitating Change in Education. Know someone reimagining how we learn? Send them our way. Keep the conversation going: Connect with us on LinkedIn or at changemakerallies.org

In this conversation, we dive deep with Dr. Elsa Maxwell - intercultural educator, facilitator, and founder of Shift Intercultural - into how we build bridges across cultures in an increasingly polarized world. Elsa shares her personal story of transformation, beginning with a trip to Honduras as a teen that opened her eyes to the power of language and culture. From that spark, she’s spent decades studying, living, and working across borders, including 16 years immersed in Chilean life. We explore: How culture shapes how we see, feel, and interpret the world What it means to “suspend judgment” and why it’s a core facilitation skill Activities that cultivate curiosity, perspective-taking, and belonging in a group The difference between adaptation and assimilation - and why that matters in group dynamics How to create psychologically safe virtual and in-person spaces across difference What intercultural facilitation has to offer in the face of global polarization This is a rich, personal, and practical conversation for anyone holding space for diverse groups-whether in a classroom, a boardroom, or across borders. Learn more about Dr. Elsa Maxwell and Shift Intercultural: www.shiftintercultural.com

In this powerful conversation, our host Mentor Dida sits down with Dr. Scott Sherman, founder of the Transformative Action Institute, to explore what it really takes to lead meaningful change in today’s world. Scott is the co-founder of the Transformative Action Institute, where he trains the next generation of changemakers to tackle the world’s biggest social and environmental challenges. He has taught at top universities like UCLA, Yale, and Princeton, and coached businesses that have generated over $15 billion in revenue and impacted 600 million lives worldwide. Scott shares his personal journey - from being frustrated by problem-focused education to creating one of the first leadership institutes dedicated to social innovation and transformative action. We dive into the three core principles of transformative leadership: Shine a Light on Injustice: Naming the problem is the first step, but not the last. Practice Social Aikido: Move beyond “us vs. them” to invite power into partnership. Paint a Better Vision: Instead of only fighting what’s wrong, show what’s possible. Scott also introduces the "Positive Five Game," a simple yet profound approach to turning life’s stresses into opportunities for personal transformation and resilience. You’ll hear how his students, including one initially skeptical young leader, went on to create life-saving solutions - and how business leaders, nonprofits, and changemakers can apply these lessons today. Whether you’re a facilitator, social innovator, or business leader, this episode is packed with actionable insights on how to unlock the genius in the room, build resilience, and cultivate hope in a world that too often feels divided. Key Links: Transformative Action Institute: Website Follow Scott Sherman: LinkedIn

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Cole talks with Zach Mercurio about the critical yet often overlooked concept of mattering, which is the fundamental human need to feel significant to the people around us. The conversation explores how we're experiencing not just a loneliness epidemic or disengagement crisis, but a mattering deficit where people feel unseen, unheard, and undervalued in their daily interactions. Zach shares powerful stories from his work with organizations ranging from airlines to electronics companies, demonstrating how small moments of genuine connection can transform entire workplace cultures. Throughout their discussion, Zach emphasizes the crucial distinction between having a job that matters and experiencing mattering in your job. He explores how leaders can create cultures where people feel noticed, affirmed, and needed through specific, learnable skills rather than relying on programs or initiatives. The conversation shares some practical approaches for showing people their significance, including the powerful practice of "laddering" that NASA used to help every employee, from physicists to janitors, connect their daily work to putting a person on the moon. Their conversation concludes with actionable ways for anyone seeking to weave more mattering into their work and communities. Zach reminds us that while we can't control how others treat us, we can commit to showing people how they matter in our everyday interactions, and that our next great leadership act is really in our next interaction. Show notes: Learn more about Zach's work and access free resources, including a mattering self-assessment: https://www.zachmercurio.com/mattering Get a copy of "The Power of Mattering: How Leaders Can Create a Culture Where Everyone Thrives" Check out Zach’s course on mattering skills for leaders: https://www.zachmercurio.com/mattering-class-for-leaders/  

What does it really mean to be a changemaker? In this rich and reflective episode, Olga from Ashoka joins Mentor Dida to explore the full arc of changemaking—from the personal to the planetary. Drawing on 13+ years at Ashoka, Olga shares how her understanding of changemaking evolved—from direct service to systems change, and ultimately, to supporting a world where everyone can step into this role. Olga has been with Ashoka for over 12 years and has held a variety of roles—from building up Ashoka’s office in the Czech Republic to accompanying social entrepreneurs around the world in refining their systems change strategies. In recent years, she has led Ashoka’s knowledge work, focusing on codifying key insights on how systems change happens. Olga has developed several online courses, case studies, and podcast episodes exploring social entrepreneurship, systems thinking, working with government, and mindset shift as a pathway to change. Today, she serves as the Academic Director of Ashoka’s executive education initiative, the Visionary Program, and is a partner in Ashoka’s Globalizer—its flagship accelerator on systems change. Beyond her global work, Olga also leads efforts to improve the waste management system in her home region. Together, Olga and Mentor unpack what it takes to create the conditions for changemaking—why exposure matters more than explanation, how inner work is foundational to outer impact, and why authentic change begins with being, not just doing. Olga introduces frameworks like the 5Rs of systems change, shares tools for facilitating mindset shift, and reflects on how building trust across sectors is central to durable impact. Whether you’re an educator, policymaker, parent, or community leader, this episode offers a grounded, hopeful, and practical look at how we might design spaces that ignite changemaking—starting from the inside out. Resources Mentioned: Ashoka Systems Change Masterclass Mindset Shift Online Course Working with Government Course Ashoka Systems Change Podcast Follow Olga on LinkedIn

What if the key to great facilitation isn’t just what happens in the room- but everything you do before you even walk in? In this episode, we dive in with Natasha Walker, a master facilitator who believes preparation is an act of care. With decades of experience leading complex conversations across sectors, Natasha shares why planning every minute matters-and why letting go of the plan matters just as much. From stakeholder interviews to handwritten flipcharts, Natasha takes us behind the scenes of how she builds trust, alignment, and clarity - especially in messy, high-stakes environments. If you’re working on culture change, sustainability, citizen engagement, or anything that requires people to show up and shift - this episode is full of wisdom. You’ll learn: How deep preparation creates space for real improvisation What questions help clients clarify fuzzy goals Why skeptical participants are essential - and how to engage them How Natasha uses AI, Slido, and Mural as part of her toolkit What makes transformation last after the workshop ends Whether you’re a new facilitator or a seasoned one, Natasha’s grounded approach reminds us that thoughtful process design is a quiet but powerful force for change. Links: Learn more about Natasha Walker

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Cole talks with Joel Fariss of Holon Institute about navigating the complexity of our current moment and creating spaces for transformative community experiences. The conversation explores the poly opportunity - a play on "polycrisis" - which represents the multiple pathways and possibilities emerging during this time of planetary transformation. Joel shares insights from hosting gatherings in Berlin, New York, Tangier, and Istanbul that bring together diverse practitioners, dreamers, and change-makers. Throughout their discussion, Joel emphasizes the importance of moving beyond the abundance of ideas to actually embodying new ways of being. He explores the tension between urgency and the slower work of cultural transformation, arguing that our culture's mythology of speed and productivity often undermines our capacity for genuine change. The conversation delves into practical approaches for creating gatherings that help people remember who they are, including mystery meetups, dedicated integration spaces, and intentionally unstructured time for emergence and connection. Their conversation concludes with reflections on scale, decentralization, and the metaphor of spreading spores - trusting that transformative communities will grow organically without centralized control.  Show notes: Learn more about the PolyOpportunity series and join the June 2025 gathering in Istanbul: polyopportunity.com Explore Holon Institute's work: holoninstitute.org

In this special episode of Facilitating Change, the full Changemaker Allies team - Mentor Dida, Cole Hoover, and Ali Fraenkel - comes together for a heart-to-heart conversation on their evolution as facilitators. This episode is honest, reflective, and rooted in lived experience. We explore: When we first realized we were facilitators - and why that term can be hard to claim What we’ve learned that changed how we hold space What we’ve had to unlearn (like needing all the answers or sticking too tightly to the plan) What still challenges us today - from group selection to post-session integration The embodied nature of facilitation, and how breath, presence, and movement shape the magic Whether you’re new to facilitation or have years of experience, this episode invites you to reflect on your own journey. Come for the insights - stay for the laughs, stories, and shared learning among three friends doing this work together.

What does it take to create space where real transformation happens? In this episode of Facilitating Change, we sit down with Nicole Taylor - facilitator, leadership coach, and fierce advocate for well-being - who brings a deeply integrative approach to space holding. With roots in yoga, meditation, Ayurveda, and somatic experiencing, Nicole shares how she blends nervous system regulation, presence, and sharp facilitation design to support deep change in individuals and groups. We explore what makes a space truly transformative - from creating the right conditions, to sensing the intelligence of the room, to navigating emergent dynamics with clarity and courage. Nicole speaks candidly about how her own healing journey fuels her fierce commitment to truth, and how facilitators can cultivate the presence needed to guide others through complexity, trauma, and breakthrough. This conversation is a rich offering for facilitators, educators, coaches, and changemakers who are hungry to go deeper - not just in theory, but in practice. Topics We Cover: The lineage and origin of Nicole’s facilitation journey Self-regulation, co-regulation, and the facilitator’s nervous system How to create conditions for depth, trust, and transformation Working with Theory U and sensing the field Naming truth with love - even when it's uncomfortable The power of silence, spaciousness, and being changed together Connect with Nicole: Website: ajoyfulpause.com LinkedIn: Nicole Taylor

In this deep and energizing episode, Mentor Dida sits down with Dustin Liu - facilitator, educator, and the Senior Associate Director at NYU Stern’s Initiative on Purpose and Flourishing - for a conversation that spans the art, science, and spirit of facilitation. Together we explore what it means to “ease the journey of becoming,” how to create conditions for human growth, and why great facilitation starts with setting intention - not controlling outcomes. Dustin shares insights from years of guiding learning communities, designing transformative experiences, and helping organizations move toward more generous, humane ways of working. We talk about the importance of norms, naming the unspoken, the role of the ego in group dynamics, and what it means to “listen louder than you speak.” Drawing from his background in systems-change, adult development, and life design, Dustin also shares what it takes to lead in a way that’s grounded in purpose, curiosity, and joy. If you’ve ever wondered how to create truly transformative spaces, disrupt power dynamics with care, or lead from a place of humility and presence, this episode is for you. About Dustin Liu Dustin Liu is the Senior Associate Director at the NYU Stern Initiative on Purpose and Flourishing, where he helps design programs that bridge research and practice on purpose-driven leadership. A former Fulbright Scholar and educator at institutions like Stanford’s d.school and Harvard Extension School, Dustin is a certified life design facilitator, systems-change practitioner, and lifelong learner - currently diving into the world of death doulas. He’s worked with Ashoka, the University of Chicago, and schools and organizations around the world to help individuals and teams reimagine what’s possible. Links Mentioned Connect with Dustin on LinkedIn Learn more about the NYU Stern Initiative on Purpose and Flourishing Find out more about the Facilitating Change podcast at changemakerallies.com/podcast

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Cole talks with Dr. Britt Yamamoto about his book "The Soil of Leadership” and meaningful ways to support social impact leaders right now. A large part of the conversation centers around the core metaphor from the book about “growing soil”. Britt compares conventional farmers who focus on growing plants (short-term, visible results) versus sustainable farmers who prioritize growing soil (long-term, beneath-the-surface conditions). He applies this metaphor to leadership, arguing that effective leadership requires cultivating the deeper conditions that allow teams and organizations to thrive rather than just focusing on immediate, visible outcomes. Throughout the conversation, Britt discusses the compelling resonance of this farming metaphor across cultures, the importance of understanding organizational "seasons", including periods of rest and renewal, and the value of reflection and relationship-building as essential leadership practices. Their conversation ends with some wisdom for leaders navigating challenging times, emphasizing the importance of connection, remembering one's purpose, prioritizing wellbeing, and maintaining hope.   Show notes:    Grab a copy of the Soil of Leadership: https://amplifypublishinggroup.com/product/nonfiction/business-and-finance/leadership-and-management/the-soil-of-leadership/   Learn more about Britt's organization Perennial: https://www.perennial.org/about/

In this conversation, we dive deep with Jenny Sauer-Klein - a master of designing experiences that don’t just tick a box, but truly move people. Jenny has worked with companies like Airbnb, Google, and Genentech to bring their cultures to life, and she's the founder of The Culture Conference, where leaders come together to build workplaces that actually feel human. We talk about the real difference between experience design and facilitation, and what it takes to balance structure and spontaneity when you're holding a group. Jenny shares her powerful "Primary Shift" framework, the importance of psychological safety, and how connection isn’t just nice to have - it's the foundation for real transformation. If you lead groups, design learning spaces, or just care about helping people grow - this episode is full of hard-won lessons and practical tools that can help you create something deeper. Resources Mentioned: The Primary Shift Culture Conference Facilitation Finesse Course (use code Changemaker20 for 20% off)

In this soulful conversation, Sarah-Marie Hopf, joins us to explore the deeper art of facilitation - one that doesn’t just solve problems, but awakens possibility. Sarah-Marie is an executive coach, spaceholder, and facilitator who brings rare presence and clarity into the room. In this episode, we explore: How she first discovered facilitation as a pathway to deeper connection What it means to truly listen - to life, to self, to others How shared agreements create safety, even in complexity The role of trust, presence, and inner resourcing in designing transformative experiences Why sometimes the agenda needs to be set aside in service of what wants to happen What it means to let life work through you in service to the whole This episode is a masterclass in deep facilitation. You’ll walk away grounded, inspired, and reminded of the quiet intelligence that lives beneath the noise. Links 🔗 Learn more about Sarah-Marie’s work: https://www.sarahmariehopf.com 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahmariehopf/

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Cole sits down with Kori Linn, a professional coach who works with high achievers and individuals navigating complex relationships. Kori shares her insights on creating spaces where healthy conflict can thrive and how facilitation can benefit from coaching methodologies. She explores the concept of "connection orientation" - an approach that centers our desire for connection even during disagreements. Kori opens up about the importance of practicing curiosity when holding discomfort and offers practical advice for ensuring repair after rupture. This episode delves deep into how different coaching mindsets can enhance facilitation, leadership, and community building. Cole and Kori discuss experiences working with high achievers, the challenges of perfectionism, and how small steps taken consistently lead to meaningful change. Whether you're a facilitator, community leader, or someone interested in better communication approaches, this conversation will inspire you to create more intentional spaces where both individual goals and collective priorities can be honored.

In this episode of Facilitating Change, we sit down with Vipul Shaha, creator of 'Mindful Being' and a global facilitator passionate about holistic education, mindfulness, and transformation. Vipul shares his journey from teaching in under-resourced classrooms to integrating mindfulness, nature, and body awareness into his facilitation practice. He opens up about the power of silence, the importance of daily mindfulness practices, and how we can break free from limiting stories that hold us back. This episode delves deep into how mindfulness can enhance facilitation, leadership, and our overall well-being. Vipul discusses his experiences in nature-based therapy, working with youth, and the profound impact of embodiment on transformation. Whether you're a facilitator, changemaker, or someone passionate about mindful living, this conversation will leave you inspired to deepen your practice and create more intentional, transformative spaces. Learn more about Vipul Shaha: LinkedIn: Vipul Shaha LinkedIn Mindful Being Website: Mindful Being Just Being Center: Just Being Center Global Citizen Year: Global Citizen Year Vipassana Meditation: Vipassana Meditation

In this conversation, Cole Hoover and Adam Kahane of Reos Partners explore the art of systems transformation through stories from Adam's remarkable career. They discuss how everyday habits create lasting change and why transformation must inherently be a collective activity. Adam shares insights from his forthcoming book, highlighting the value of collaboration, self-reflection, and making space for diverse perspectives. The dialogue explores how humility and vulnerability strengthen leadership and how skilled facilitation removes obstacles to allow natural emergence. The discussion also covers power dynamics in designing gathering and how inner transformation drives external change. Adam ultimately advocates for "radical engagement", an approach grounded in curiosity that addresses root causes and builds the long-term relationships necessary for sustainable transformation. Shownotes: Order a copy of Adam's new book: https://reospartners.com/everyday-habits-for-transforming-systems  Learn more about Adam's work: www.adamkahane.com  www.linkedin.com/in/adam-kahane

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor Dida sits down with Maria Galaykova, a learning experience designer who is passionate about creating transformative experiences through human-centered design and constructivist psychology. Maria discusses her journey from a certification manager and workplace consultant to discovering the missing link between change and learning, which led her to the field of learning experience design. Together, they explore how people construct meaning from their experiences, the role of vulnerability in learning, and the importance of balancing stress and comfort zones for transformative growth. Maria also shares insights on how facilitators can create spaces that encourage meaningful change by designing for both safety and exploration.   Learn more about Maria’s work by visiting her Medium blog and checking out the article she referenced on "Bildung" here. Maria on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-galaykova/

In this insightful episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor Dida sits down with Peter Williamson, co-founder of Barometer XP, to explore how play can powerfully transform team dynamics and organizational culture. Peter shares his journey from professional athlete to expert facilitator, revealing how play became central to his approach to building strong teams, enhancing empathy, and sparking innovation. Together, they unpack why incorporating play into retreats and meetings can deeply impact organizational outcomes—from increased trust and empathy to uncovering hidden talents. Peter emphasizes that the magic isn't just in the game itself, but in how we set up and reflect on these playful moments. This conversation dives into practical tips on introducing play into any workspace, navigating skepticism, and creating meaningful, reflective experiences. Peter’s unique approach, drawn from his own journey as an athlete and co-founder of Barometer XP, provides a blueprint for leaders and facilitators looking to leverage play as a transformative tool. Join Mentor and Peter as they explore how play can become your team’s secret weapon for learning, connecting, and thriving together. Learn More about Peter and Barometer XP: Barometer XP Website Connect with Peter Williamson on LinkedIn

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Cole Hoover speaks with Dr. Julie Pham, an expert on interpersonal dynamics, organizational development, and cross-sector collaboration. Julie unpacks why our traditional understanding of respect often leads to disconnection, despite our best intentions. She shares frameworks from her book The 7 Forms of Respect which places respect on a spectrum and gives us tools to transform the ways we relate with others.  From misinterpreting signals in the workplace to navigating different expectations in personal relationships, Julie shares practical strategies for using curiosity to better understand what matters to others and to ourselves. She also explains how these frameworks allow us to articulate our own needs more effectively while genuinely honoring others. If you've ever found yourself frustrated when your well-meaning efforts missed the mark, or if you're looking to build stronger connections across differences, this conversation offers a fundamental shift in how we approach respect in all areas of life.    Show notes: Check out the great work Julie and her team are doing at: Curiositybased.com A page dedicated to Julie's book The 7 Forms of Respect and courses you can join to learn how to integrate its frameworks into your work and life: https://formsofrespect.com

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor Dida speaks with Jeff Hittner, a master facilitator, executive coach, and founder of the Ambitious Dads project. With 25 years of experience building better teams and people, Jeff shares his insights on how vulnerability and safe spaces drive transformation. From designing engaging workshops to helping leaders embrace change, Jeff breaks down his facilitation process step-by-step. He also opens up about his personal journey with the Ambitious Dads initiative, supporting fathers in their parenting roles. If you're curious about how to create environments for profound change, this episode is for you! Links: Learn more about Jeff Hittner: JeffHittner.com Subscribe to Ambitious Dads on Substack: https://ambitiousdads.substack.com/  Follow Jeff on LinkedIn: Jeff Hittner

In this episode, the Changemaker Allies team, your co-hosts Mentor Dida & Cole Hoover alongside Ali Fraenkel, welcome you to a reflective discussion inspired by THE go-to, global annual report for facilitation.  We dive into musings, a-has, and reflections inspired by the 2025 State of Facilitation Report from SessionLab. With insights from over 1,000 facilitators across 78 countries, this report is a must-read for anyone who works with teams or holds space for learning, growth, and collaboration. This is our first all-team podcast format... Tune in now to feel like you’re hanging out with your facilitator friends while sharing a cup of tea, and let’s continue the conversation together! Explore the full report here: https://www.sessionlab.com/state-of-facilitation/

In this conversation, Cole and Mark explore the intricate dynamics of cross-sector collaboration and leadership in social enterprise. They discuss the messy reality of collaboration, where often everyone shows up with their own goals, metrics, and ways of measuring success. The discussion gets personal as they unpack how leaders need to do their own inner work around ego and bias, highlighting why those in power must be willing to look in the mirror before asking others to change. Through stories and practical examples, they tackle the challenging truth that long-term collaborations are constantly in flux, with people, motivations, and priorities shifting along the way. Mark and Cole share insights on creating spaces where organizations can pursue some of their goals in the short term while still working toward bigger shared dreams, offering honest perspectives on what it takes to keep complex partnerships alive and meaningful.   Show Notes: Follow Mark on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhoroszowski/ Learn about the work MovingWorlds does in the world: www.movingworlds.org

In this thought-provoking episode, Mentor Dida is joined by Kenny Clewett, who co-leads Ashoka’s Hello World initiative, a global effort focused on migration, integration, and refugee movements. Kenny shares his journey from his pastoral work to becoming a facilitator and change leader, spearheading cross-sectoral collaborations to tackle some of the world’s toughest social issues. Drawing from years of experience, Kenny discusses the art of facilitation, the importance of trust-building across different cultures, and how to navigate power dynamics in a group setting. He also shares the innovative work Ashoka is doing with Ecosystem Accelerators, which bring together diverse stakeholders to scale ideas and create systemic change in the field of migration and beyond.  Throughout the conversation, Kenny offers profound insights into what it takes to facilitate change at a global scale and how creating space for different voices to emerge is vital in building a better, more inclusive future.   Links: Kenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyclewett/?originalSubdomain=es Kenny Clewett's Article on Social Innovations Journal Hello World Report: https://helloworld.ashoka.org/files/peopleonthemove Hello Europe: https://www.hello-europe.eu/our-team 

In this conversation Cole connects with Nate Wong, a Partner at The Bridgespan Group and social impact educator, to explore how facilitation and transformative spaces can reshape relationships between funders and nonprofits. As a strategic advisor, Nate works to reshape traditional relationships between nonprofits and philanthropists, building new models based on mutual trust and shared ownership. Drawing from his rich background in social impact, he shares practical insights on creating welcoming spaces that truly honor diverse perspectives and lived experiences. The conversation explores trust-based philanthropy, power dynamics in the nonprofit sector, and finding the sweet spot between structured and organic community building. Through stories and examples, Nate offers guidance on designing spaces that foster authentic engagement and lasting change, from small intentional gestures to thoughtful long-term planning. This episode is essential listening for anyone working to create more inclusive and effective spaces for social impact. Show notes: Learn more about Nate's work on his site: www.natewong.com Learn more about The Bridgespan Group here: www.bridgespan.org

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor Dida speaks with Valentina Raman, co-founder of YouthxYouth and The Weaving Lab, about her approach to weaving communities, designing learning experiences, and building capacity for collective action. Valentina shares how she creates spaces for participants to bring their whole selves, the art of holding complex and diverse groups together, and how her work with Youth by Youth empowers young people to lead. They explore the role of the facilitator, the power of emergent strategy, and the importance of weaving ecosystems for the collective thriving of people and planet. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on facilitation, leadership, and co-creating transformative spaces. Links: Learn more about Youth by Youth: YouthxYouth Discover The Weaving Lab: The Weaving Lab Connect with Valentina Raman on LinkedIn: Valentina Raman

In this conversation, Cole and Nani talk about the art of transformative facilitation, exploring how to create spaces where authenticity is more important than assimilation, and deep listening guides design. They dive into Nani's work with the Courage Collective, discussing how her mission to "elevate the voices of the unheard" shapes her approach to DEI facilitation and consulting. The conversation highlights practical insights about building trust incrementally, balancing structure with emergence, and leveraging both virtual and in-person environments effectively. They also explore the importance of facilitators being selective about which spaces they choose to hold in order to ensure meaningful, sustained impact rather than superficial change. Through their discussion of specific techniques and real-world examples, they unpack how facilitators can create environments where multiple truths can coexist and participants feel truly included rather than merely welcomed.   Show notes:   Learn more about Courage Collective   Connect with Nani on Linkedin

In this episode of Facilitating Change, we sit down with Mohsin Mohi Ud Din, founder and CEO of #MeWe International Inc., to explore how communication, storytelling, and mindfulness are shaping changemakers across the globe. With more than 10,000 youth and caregivers impacted in over 12 countries, Mohsin shares insights from his groundbreaking narrative interventions and leadership programs, offering a fresh perspective on how intention, perspective, and creativity are at the heart of change. He also talks about the power of metaphor, the importance of creating space for both rest and connection, and how facilitators can tap into the rhythms of nature to guide communities through profound transformation. Mohsin’s experience spans strategic communications at the United Nations, Ashoka, and UNICEF, and his expertise in narrative therapy and biomimicry provides transformation for changemakers, educators, and facilitators alike. Learn more about Mohsin’s work: LinkedIn: Mohsin Mohi Ud Din #MeWe International: www.meweintl.org Mohsin’s Ted Talk: Your story of you keeps score | Mohsin Mohi Ud Din | TEDxBeaconStreetSalon

Cole and David explore the art of effective gathering design and its crucial role in fostering meaningful conversations and cohesive experiences, especially in virtual settings. They discuss reimagining conferences as catalysts for ongoing learning communities. David shares insights on the benefits of time-bound "seasons" in collaborations, clear role distribution, and regular evaluation. They also touch on decentralizing power in online communities and explore strategies for facilitating spaces for change makers. Show notes: Learn more about Hats Protocol  Get your copy of Impact Networks Connect with David Erlichman on Linkedin

In this episode of Facilitating Change, we sit down with Greg Van Kirk, social entrepreneur and co-founder of The New Development Solutions Group, including Community Enterprise Solutions and Social Entrepreneur Corps. Greg shares his unique journey from investment banking to the Peace Corps, and how his work in rural communities helped him transition from a leader to a facilitator. As the author of It's What You Set In Motion: A Toolbox for Collaborative Changemaker, Greg discusses the importance of facilitation in empowering others, scaling ideas, and creating lasting systemic change through the MicroConsignment Model. He also dives deep into the challenges of managing power dynamics and the importance of collective wisdom in solving complex social problems. Tune in to learn how Greg's facilitation practices have helped him empower changemakers around the world. Learn more about Greg’s work: Greg Van Kirk on LinkedIn: Greg's LinkedIn Buy Greg's book on Amazon: It's What You Set In Motion Collaborative Changemaking Website: www.collaborativechangemaking.com

In this conversation, Cole and Dr. Pierce Otlhogile-Gordon explore the multifaceted role of facilitation. Pierce shares his journey to becoming a facilitator, rooted in childhood experiences and time spent navigating academia. They discuss the challenges some face in identifying as facilitators and balancing primary objectives with community-building. Pierce emphasizes creating spaces for emergence and improvisation, likening it to jazz. They delve into the intersection of research and facilitation in driving meaningful change, examining their respective benefits and limitations. Pierce highlights the importance of understanding power dynamics in facilitation, recommending 'Pedagogy of the Oppressed' as a valuable resource. They also explore the critical role of trust in the facilitation process and how facilitators can responsibly use the trust they've earned. Links Check out the Equity Intuition’s new six-week social skillbuilding strategy course to see if it could benefit you and your organization Learn about the variety of services Dr. Pierce offers globally Connect with Dr. Pierce Otlhogile-Gordon on Linkedin

In this episode of Facilitating Change, Mentor Dida speaks with his first facilitator inspiration & guide, Vipin Thekk, an experienced facilitator, design consultant, and creator of the Togetherness Practice, a framework for unlocking human potential. Vipin shares his deep insights on the role of facilitators, the balance between "being" and "doing," and the importance of creating relational fields where transformative change can occur. They also discuss the art of navigating resistance, fostering adult development, and the Togetherness Practice’s research-backed approach to social and systemic change. Vipin is a seasoned social entrepreneur at Ashoka and is known globally for this powerful and transformative changemaking processes. Tune in for an exploration of what it means to facilitate from a place of presence, trust, and deep love for humanity. Links: Learn more about the Togetherness Practice: www.togethernesspractice.org Connect with Vipin on LinkedIn: Vipin Thekk Explore more about Ashoka’s Your Kids Initiative: Ashoka

In this conversation Cole and Rebecca explore the art of facilitation and creating safe, connected environments. Rebecca shares her journey as a facilitator, emphasizing trust-building and the power of curiosity and playfulness in fostering deeper connections and innovation. They discuss the importance of authenticity in facilitating and designing communities that encourage learning and knowledge sharing. Rebecca also touches on AI's potential in transforming knowledge sharing, while highlighting the need for responsible development and ethical considerations in its use for human flourishing. More about Rebecca here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccakirstein/?originalSubdomain=ca Enjoy! 

In this heartfelt trailer, co-hosts Cole Hoover and Mentor Dida introduce *Facilitating Change*, a podcast born from their shared journey through countless classrooms, trainings, and conferences that left them uninspired and drained. Together, they reflect on the need for more intentional spaces—spaces that empower changemakers, unlock collaboration, and spark meaningful transformation & innovation.   Facilitating Change is more than just conversations. It’s a hub where facilitators and changemakers connect, learn, and grow. Each episode offers insights into best practices in facilitation, transformative leadership, and designing communities that foster engagement. Through candid conversations with inspiring leaders across the social impact space, we explore what it takes to navigate complexity, bridge differences, and create thriving environments.   This podcast invites you to step into the art of holding space—where profound learning meets real-world impact. Whether you’re a seasoned facilitator, an aspiring changemaker, or someone curious about transformation, these episodes are crafted to spark growth and inspiration.   💡 Interested in connecting with us or recommending a guest?  Connect with us directly on LinkedIn:   Mentor Dida: https://linkedin.com/in/mentordida Cole Hoover: https://linkedin.com/in/colehoover Ali Fraenkel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrafraenkel/ Join us every two weeks for fresh perspectives from world-class facilitators. Let’s build spaces for collaboration, transformation, and sustainable change—together. Facilitating Change podcast is powered by Changemaker Allies an organization co-founded by Cole Hoover, Mentor Dida, and Ali Fraenkel, dedicated to transformative spaces for changemakers everywhere.   

In this episode of "Facilitating Change," Mentor Dida sit down with Kristoffer Carter (KC), founder of Epic Leadership and author of "Permission to Glow." KC dives deep into the art of conscious leadership, exploring how we can courageously embrace transformation and unlock our true potential. He shares insights on holding sacred spaces for teams, essence discovery, and how leaders can foster trust and vulnerability to create lasting change. With a career spent coaching Fortune 100 executives, KC’s wisdom is not to be missed. Explore how to lead with authenticity, courage, and clarity in this powerful conversation. Links: Kristoffer Carter's Website Kristoffer Carter on LinkedIn Kristoffer Carter on Insight Timer Kristoffer Carter on Instagram Permission to Glow Book