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Go to patreon.com/GenderSpiralPodcast to gain to listen ad-free and gain access to bonus content like videos, extended interviews, cut-for-time content, live shows and more!Gender Spiral is an award-winning podcast about being a varied, ever-changing human in a world built around categories. Hosts Ally Beardsley (Dropout) and Babette Thomas (Yale University) interview trans and queer guests- the experts on reinvention and evolution- and investigate how we as humans interact with, reject, and reconfigure the boxes society puts us in.
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[PREVIEW] Gender Spiral LIVE at University of Pittsburgh! (AD-FREE)
In March, we got to close out UPitt's Pride week with a special live show! It was a blast talking to students, answering their questions, and reflecting on how Gender Spiral has grown over the past 3 seasons. You might say we were on fire- so much so that there may have been an incident involving a fire alarm about halfway through...Stay tuned- season 4 begins very soon!Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world.
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[PREVIEW] Gender Spiral LIVE in Chicago (Night 1 w/ Lynzo the Heartthrob & Eoin McGraw) AD-FREE
Missed us in Chicago? NEVER FEAR, THE RECORDING IS HERE! On night one of our two-night extravaganza at iO Theater in May, Ally and Babette were joined by drag artist/DJ/rapper Lynzo the Heartthrob and tattoo artist/overall lovely human being Eoin McGraw for a hilarious and thoughtful convo. Then, they answer some audience questions!Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Making Podcasts for Trans People (w/ Tuck Woodstock) AD-FREE
On a special gender-podcast crossover episode, Tuck Woodstock talks hosting their podcast Gender Reveal, creating Trans Day of Snacks, and naming themself after a Montana-based beer brand.Find Gender Reveal wherever you get your podcasts. If you don't know where to start, check out the starter packs on the Gender Reveal website. Follow Gender Reveal and Tuck on Instagram.
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[PREVIEW] A Baby? In This Economy? (w/ Cass Adair) AD-FREE
We're continuing the thread on trans & queer parents in a conversation with scholar, writer, audio producer Cassius (Cass) Adair. He tells us about transitioning in the early days of Tumblr, getting baby fever in his late 20s, and the nitty-gritty of pregnancy and parenting as a trans dad in Minnesota.Check out Cass's work at his website cassiusadair.com. There, you can find links to his writing, audio work, and trans media consulting firm Sylveon Consulting (which he co-runs with our friend Tuck Woodstock!).Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Gender Spiral Season 1 Starter Pack AD-FREE
Babette and Ally reflect on Season 1 of Gender Spiral and listen to some highlights from past episodes. Thanks for spiraling with us!Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world.
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[PREVIEW] Season 3 Highlights (w/ Ally & Babette) AD-FREE
It's been a month since season 3 ended, so we decided to catch up and reflect! Here are some of our favorite moments from this season, plus an update on what's going on in our own lives.Here are the clips you heard in this episode (in order):Ericka Hart & Ebony Donnelly, "Parenting on Purpose"Kamra Hakim, "Community Care in the Catskills"Cass Adair, "A Baby? In This Economy?"Judith Butler, "Judith Butler Talks About Their Gender"J Wortham, "There is No Solo Future"River Nice, "Money Sucks -And- You Can Do It"Judith Butler (again), "Judith Butler Talks About Their Gender"Make sure to go back and re-listen to these and all of our other episodes from season 3!Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Money Sucks -And- You Can Do It (w/ River Nice) AD-FREE
Is it possible to get out of my mountain of credit card debt? How do I budget for mutual aid? Should I be buying stocks? What even IS life insurance?! Anti-capitalist financial planner River Nice answers these questions and more, and Babette and Ally learn a thing or two about financial literacy.Find River on Instagram @financewithriver and check out their financial literacy programs, free budget templates and more at their website beintentionalfinancial.comFind transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] The Revolution is Horny (w/ Nori Reed) AD-FREE
Ally & Babette get into some post-election catharsis, then our guest Nori Reed provides some much-needed laughter as she shares stories about growing into herself as both a trans woman and comedian.Find Nori Reed on Instagram @norireedFind transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] "My Kid Sees Me" (w/ Asher Pandjiris) AD-FREE
This week, psychotherapist Asher Pandjiris talks growing up as a tomboy and their relationship to masculinity, parenting as a nonbinary person, and mental health hurdles that often overlap with gender dysphoria.Content warning for eating disorders from 21:50-22:59 and from 24:52 to 30:08.Article: "Unpacking 'gender exploratory therapy,' a new form of conversion therapy"Find Asher on Instagram or their website
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[PREVIEW] Community Care in the Catskills (w/ Kamra Hakim) AD-FREE
Everyone wants to run away from society and build a queer homestead with their polycule, but what does it actually take to make that happen? We talk to artist and organizer Kamra Hakim about the land they bought in upstate New York, the artist residency/community space they created on it, and why conflict management is actually the most important skill in an off-grid queer community (besides knowing how to fix a generator).You can find Kamra on Instagram @almostkarmabutnotquite, and Activation Residency @activationresidency. Check out Kamra's music on Bandcamp and their book Care Manual: Dreaming Care Into Being at Flower Press.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Thinking Outside the "Man Box" (w/ Thomas Page McBee) AD-FREE
Writer Thomas Page McBee shares about his personal and professional journey examining and reimagining masculinity. Content warning for gun violence at timecodes 28:48 to 31:36.Check out Thomas' work at his website: https://www.thomaspagemcbee.com/Check out Babette's 3D Virtual Walking Tour of West Oakland at: westoaklandyesterdaytodaytomorrow.comFind transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] "The Masc is In Your Brain, B*tch" (w/ Jordan Underwood) AD-FREE
Model Jordan Underwood talks confusing cat-callers, their alter ego Debbie, and what fat liberation could look like within the transmasc community.Find Jordan on Instagram
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[PREVIEW] Suing the Government (w/ Zander Schlacter) AD-FREE
Artist Zander Schlacter and his lawyer Carl Charles from Lambda Legal explain the effects of the Tr*mp administration's executive order barring trans folks from obtaining passports with their correct gender markers, and why Zander is suing the US State Department about it.For more information about Zander's case, visit lambdalegal.org.Find Zander on Instagram @zanderschlacter, and check out the reel he posted when his case was filed.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] The Sands of Time (w/ Halo Perez-Gallardo) AD-FREE
Gender Spiral TIME TRAVEL EDITION! Chef and restauranteur Halo Perez-Gallardo of Lil' Deb's Oasis in Hudson, NY talks to Ally about emotion, evolution, and good eats as they reflect on clips from the first time Ally interviewed them in 2020.Follow Lil' Deb's Oasis on InstagramCheck out "Please Wait to Be Tasted: The Lil' Deb's Oasis Cookbook"Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] Anxiously Pulling Tarot (w/ Honey Pluton) AD-FREE
In a hilarious and chaotic episode, comedian Honey Pluton talks the "they/them to he/him pipeline," French parents, and the derogatory C-word (customer).Find Honey on Instagram @honeypluton for info on his upcoming show dates. Also, listen to Honey's podcast "Up Good with Honey Pluton" and support him on Patreon. Find transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] Radicalizing the Rave (w/ Alima Lee) AD-FREE
Artist and DJ Alima Lee talks about claiming Black femininity as a nonbinary person, how DJing helps with social anxiety, and how we can make club culture more accessible and equitable.Check out Alima Lee on their Instagram @alima_lee and websiteFind transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] Grief Barbie (w/ Amie Morrison) AD-FREE
This week, musician and friend of the show Amie Morrison talks transitioning in her 30s, how her marriage blossomed into a queer relationship, and exploring transness with her late best friend.Content warning: suicide and grief at 21:45-31:00 and 36:35-38:05.Find Amie on Instagram and Spotify
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[PREVIEW] My Best Trans Wedding (w/ Rose Dommu) AD-FREE
Twitter-queen-turned-fiction-novelist Rose Dommu talks about her new book Best Woman: a family drama Trojan-horsed into a rom-com loosely based on Rose's personal experiences. We also get her opinions about DIY hormone cocktails, bleaching your way out of a crisis, and what Fire Island is really like for trans folks.Best Woman is out NOW! Get your copy at a local bookstore or on Bookshop.org!You can find all of Rose's fiction novel reccomendations on THIS LIST. And find Rose on Instagram @rosedommu.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Baddies Who Go to Church (w/ Bay Davis) AD-FREE
Our first episode of season 2(!) features a chat with poet, artist, model, and overall incredible human Bay Davis about Brujería, burnout, and building a new relationship with herself through spirituality.Learn more about: Labor Community Strategy Center and Black BloomFind transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] The Joy and Defiance of Marsha P. Johnson (w/ Tourmaline) AD-FREE
Artist, activist and author (and swimsuit designer!?) Tourmaline kicks off Season 3 of the podcast with a conversation about her connection to Marsha P. Johnson that led to multiple artworks and two recent books.Find Tourmaline on Instagram @tourmaliiine, and find "Marsha: The Joy and Defiance of Marsha P. Johnson" and "One Day in June" wherever you get books (order from Bookshop.org to support local bookstores).Find transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] Trans People are a Reflection of Nature (w/ Massima Bell & Dust Reid) AD-FREE
Dust Reid and Massima Bell are the producers of the new album TRANSA, "a spiritual journey celebrating trans people." They talked to Ally and Babette about creating the album, compiling both covers and new work, and working with artists like Hunter Schafer and Sade.TRANSA is out now. Find more info at transa.world.Find transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] Transitions and Tattoos (w/ Eoin McGraw) AD-FREE
You might already know Eoin from our live show in Chicago this past May, but you're about to get to know him even better! Before the show that day, we got a chance to talk with him in-depth about the world of powerlifting, having a cis identical twin, and why for Eoin, tattooing, sexuality and gender are all intricately connected. Then, we got tatted!Find Eoin on Instagram @eoin_mcgraw and book a tattoo if you're in the Chicago area, we highly recommend his work! He also travels for guest spots, so keep an eye out in case he comes to your city.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Judith Butler Talks About Their Gender (w/ Judith Butler) AD-FREE
The legendary gender philosopher and scholar Judith Butler tells us about their personal relationship to non-binary identity. They also provide insight on the global rise of anti-trans ideology, the subject of their 2024 book "Who's Afraid of Gender?"Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Pirates, Vikings and Skateboarders (w/ Liv Hewson) AD-FREE
Actor Liv Hewson (Yellowjackets, Santa Clarita Diet) talks their journey to top surgery, their queer literature recommendations, and Sam Reid in Interview with the Vampire.
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[PREVIEW] The Strongest Woman in the World (w/ Marley Gotterer) AD-FREE
While recovering from surgery, comedian Marley Gotterer (who you probably already know from TikTok and Insta reels) made time to tell us about getting facial feminization (FFS) and chat about her love of sports, how she got to run social media for Cardi B, and lifting twinks live on stage.Check out Marley's work and get notified about her upcoming shows on her Instagram(s) @marleyismarley and @transsportsgirl.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Stream of Consciousness Chat w/ Ally & Babette AD-FREE
A little bonus episode just to check in! More new season 3 interviews rolling out next week, and biweekly after that. And check us out at patreon.com/GenderSpiralPodcast for more bonus content like this!Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] F*ggot Renaissance (w/ James Tom) AD-FREE
Comedian James Tom figures out their pronouns, talks the art of the 35-minute Grindr hookup, and shares about naviagating Hollywood as a transmasc twink.Find James on Instagram and Twitter.
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[PREVIEW] Coveralls and Clicky Shoes (w/ Jazmine Green) AD-FREE
Audio documentarian and artist Jazmine Green talks workwear, exploring her gender through audio, and what makes a sound queer.Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world.Support us on Patreon! patreon.com/GenderSpiralPodcastFind Jazmine on Instagram and her website
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[PREVIEW] Queer Friendship (w/ Chris Renfro) AD-FREE
Actor Chris Renfro talks about feeling gender-fluid, binary "non-binary" roles in Hollywood, and their Gen Z bestie.Find Chris on Instagram and their website, and check out their podcast "One of Us" with Finn Argus!
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[PREVIEW] Lou Sullivan and The Pink Butt Book (w/ Zach Ozma & Ellis Martin) AD-FREE
Lou Sullivan, arguably one of the first out gay trans men, kept diaries from age 11 until his death in 1991. Decades later, Zach Ozma and Ellis Martin compiled those diaries into "We Both Laughed in Pleasure" (aka the Pink Butt Book) which tells the story of Lou's full, freaky, fascinating life. Zach and Ellis talk to us about painstakingly parsing through Lou's Catholic school cursive and learning that the trans experience is really on a historic loop.Get your copy of "We Both Laughed in Pleasure" from Nightboat Books, or request a copy at your local library.For further reading, check out Zach and Ellis' recommendations.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Reflecting on our Second Season of Spiraling (feat. YOU!) AD-FREE
Babette and Ally take a look back on some highlights from season 2 of the podcast. We also hear some voicemails from listeners who tell us what queer media means to them.Thanks to our guests from season 2 featured in this episode (in order): Bay Davis, River Ramirez, Honey Pluton, Daria Lourd, Massima Bell & Dust Reid, Thomas Page McBee, Halo Perez-Gallardo, Pascal Stevenson, Alima Lee, Alys Aurora, Dr. Crystal Beal and Nori Reed. And thanks to all of our other incredible season 2 guests!And thank you to our listeners for sticking with us through our second season and beyond. We love spiraling with you! A special shoutout to those of you who called in and left us a voicemail. Those featured in this episode were: Gabi, Nick, Max, Iris, Charlie, J, Tex, Jorge, Blake, Gael, Johanna, Shelby, Gwen, Alanna, Edith, Tess, Dei, and Lauren. <3Find transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] There is No Solo Future (w/ J Wortham) AD-FREE
What are the practical skills you need to survive the apocalypse? Writer, podcast host, culture afficionado, and reiki practioner J Wortham has done the research (and watched a lot of Survivor).J shares what they learned during their survivalism crash-course on a remote island in Mexico, tells us about their reiki and breathwork practices, and examines why dissasociation might not always be a bad thing.Keep up with J Wortham on Instagram @jennydeluxe, and on Substack. Check out their first book "Black Futures," their article "My 10-Day Crash Course on Surviving the Apocalypse," and their podcast "Still Processing."Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Interdisciplinary Furby (w/ River Ramirez) AD-FREE
Multi-talented artist and hilarious human River Ramirez joins us for a chat about their journey to androgyny, the intersection of activism and self-care, and the Christian rock band "Underoath."Check out River's EP "Giving," their substack "River's World," and support them at patreon.com/PILE_OF_TEARS Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] Trans Hirstory (w/ Chris Vargas and David Frantz) AD-FREE
Artist Chris Vargas and curator David Frantz of the Museum of Trans Hirstory and Art (MOTHA) talk LGBTQ archives, John Waters, and their new book, "Trans Hirstory in 99 Objects."Order "Trans Hirstory in 99 Objects" and find MOTHA on Instagram
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[PREVIEW] What Makes a Haircut Queer? (w/ Alys Aurora) AD-FREE
Brooklyn-based hairstylist Alys Aurora of Studio Botanicum helps us answer questions like: Is there such thing as a queer haircut that isn't a mullet?How can a haircut help affirm your presentation?What does "queer" hair look like for folks with textured/kinky hair?Find Alys @studio.botanicum on Instagram, and book an appointment!Find transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] Fashion Club (w/ Pascal Stevenson) AD-FREE
Musician Pascal Stevenson aka Fashion Club talks to us about writing her first album since transitioning, how getting sober helped her come out, and her taste in, well, fashion.The new Fashion Club album "A Love You Cannot Shake" is out now. Follow Pascal on Instagram @fashion.club.la.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] Gluten Intolerance & Building Queer Families (A New Year's Minisode) AD-FREE
Babette and Ally do a little stream-of-conciousness reflecting on 2024. Thank you for spiraling with us all year!Find transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] The Revolution Will Be Self-Published (w/ Sasha Fuentes) AD-FREE
The multi-talented Sasha Fuentes tells us about developing his queer archival practice, collecting vintage gay p*rn, and the importance of print media in the age of digital censorship. And stick around to the end of the episode: our very special season finale guest, the legendary Judith Butler(!), joins in to discuss bridging intergenerational differences within the queer community.Follow Sasha on Instagram @three6sashiaa, and get their zines and screenprints on their webstore.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Being Trans on the Internet (w/ Charlotte McDonnell) AD-FREE
Twitch streamer and YouTube star Charlotte McDonnell joins us to talk about digital footprint as a Trans Person on the Internet™, how taking a break from YouTube helped her get in touch with herself, and which video games are the most trans-coded.Find Charlotte @coollike on Twitch and Instagram.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] All About HRT (w/ Dr. Crystal Beal) AD-FREE
This is part 1 of 2 episodes where we get the answers to some FAQs about medical transition from medical professionals. In this episode, Dr. Crystal Beal (founder of Queer Doc) tells us all about hormone replacement therapy (HRT), how it's prescribed, and all the various ways it can help folks reach their transition goals.TRIGGER WARNING (anti-trans healthcare bans, suicide, death threats): 8:52-10:22Further reading as suggested by Dr. Beal:"State-level anti-transgender laws increase past-year suicide attempts among transgender and non-binary young people in the USA" - Nature"The Substance of Borders: Transgender Politics, Mobility, and US State Regulation of Testosterone" - Toby BeauchampTrans Healthcare Resources:- CenterLink (Find an LGBTQ Center near you)- WPATH (World Professional Association for Transgender Health)- Queer Doc's Compilation of Trans and Gender Affirming Resources State-by-StateFind and contact your legislators and tell them to lean on the DEA to extend telemedicine flexibilities.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] Pisces are Psychic (w/ Alice Sparkly Kat) AD-FREE
Astrologer and writer Alice Sparkly Kat tells us about coming out to their Chinese family, how gender manifests in the planets, and why queer people like astrology so much. Check out Alice's writing and other work at alicesparklykat.com.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] All About Trans Surgeries (w/ Kayla McLaughlin) AD-FREE
This is part 2 of 2 episodes where we get the answers to some FAQs about medical transition from medical professionals. In this episode Kayla McLaughlin, a Physician Assistant and surgery education liaison, gets into nitty-gritty details about trans surgeries and what it looks like to get one, especially bottom surgeries like vaginoplasty and phalloplasty.Content Warning (genital anatomy, surgeries).Find transcripts and leave us a voicemail at genderspiralpod.com.
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[PREVIEW] Parenting on Purpose (w/ Ericka Hart & Ebony Donnelly) AD-FREE
Ericka Hart and and Ebony Donnelly are partners in love and podcasting, and co-parents to a toddler. We asked them to share their queer & trans pregnancy story, and give Ally some parenting pointers!Check out their podcast Hoodrat to Headwrap: A Decolonized Podcast and find Ericka and their other work as a speaker and sex educator on Instagram @ihartericka.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes.
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[PREVIEW] Dance Music is a Queer Safe Space (w/ Daria Lourd) AD-FREE
DJ Daria Lourd (Bored Lord) tells us about her musical background growing up in Memphis, how rave culture helped her explore her gender, and what lesbian signaling looks like as a trans woman (hint: caribeaners help).Check out Daria's work via her Instagram and Linktree.Find transcripts at genderspiralpod.com/episodes
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[PREVIEW] "I'm Not a 'Queer BIPOC'" (w/ Brontez Purnell) AD-FREE
Writer and dancer Brontez Purnell tells us about his ill-fated pact with the sacred masculine, finding divine femininity in dance, and how gentrification and lack of knee cartilage have affected his love life.Find Brontez on Instagram!
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[PREVIEW] Dungeons ;) Dragons and Drag (w/ Vico Ortiz) AD-FREE
Vico Ortiz (Our Flag Means Death) talks polyamory, exploring gender through drag, and the many skins they shed during the pandemic.Find Vico on Instagram and TikTok
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[PREVIEW] "I'm Just a Woman" (w/ Robert Colindrez) AD-FREE
Roberta Colindrez (A League of Their Own, Vida, Fun Home) talks "Romy and Michele" skirts, getting they/them'd in a Target, and predicting that Ricky Martin was gay.
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[PREVIEW] Unmasking and re-MASCing (w/ Dr. Devon Price) AD-FREE
Fresh out of top surgery, author Dr. Devon Price ("Unmasking Autism," "Laziness Does Not Exist") talks coming out as trans and autistic, the unsettling feeling of gender "success" and why autistic folks are more likely to be out as queer and trans. Find Devon on Instagram
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[PREVIEW] Lesbian to T-Guy Pipeline (w/ Jacke Colquitt & River Butcher) AD-FREE
In the pilot episode, Ally and Babette chat about being trans in a steakhouse bathroom, Black Quantum Futurism, and the "lesbian to T-guy express."Featuring interviews with multi-disciplinary artist Jacke Colquitt and comedian River Butcher!
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[PREVIEW] GENDER SPIRAL LIVE (w/ Naomi McPherson & E.R. Fightmaster) AD-FREE
Most podcasts don't host a live show until like, season two. But we're not "most podcasts."After releasing our first episode, we threw a launch party and recorded an episode live at The Yard Theater in LA. Thanks to everyone who came out to the show, and a HUGE thanks to our guests Naomi McPherson (MUNA) and E.R. Fightmaster (Grey's Anatomy, Shrill)! Ally, Babette, Naomi and E.R. talk about corporate pride, being queer in the "industry" and getting gender envy from skater boys and Pete Wentz.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Go to patreon.com/GenderSpiralPodcast to gain to listen ad-free and gain access to bonus content like videos, extended interviews, cut-for-time content, live shows and more!Gender Spiral is an award-winning podcast about being a varied, ever-changing human in a world built around categories. Hosts Ally Beardsley (Dropout) and Babette Thomas (Yale University) interview trans and queer guests- the experts on reinvention and evolution- and investigate how we as humans interact with, reject, and reconfigure the boxes society puts us in.
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