In the Wasatch

2025 marks the 10 year anniversary of the Mountain Accord Charter. This charter isa landmark, consensus document that memorializes the hard fought negotiations and agreements that were struck among the major interests of the Central Wasatch.In this episode, former Central Wasatch Commission Staff, Ben Kilbourne, facilitates a conversation with three individuals that were instrumental in the Mountain Accord process. Featured in this conversation are former Salt Lake County Mayor and U.S. Congressman Ben McAdams; former Utah State Representative and former Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker; and current Summit County Councilmember and CWC Commissioner Chris Robinson.

Today we’re going walking with Tom Diegel in the Wasatch. Tom has been involved with the CWC for some time now, and has held the Stakeholders Council Co-Chair role for the last two years. He’s focused a lot of his efforts on Mill Creek Canyon, and has a special affinity for it, so that’s where we went.Tom is heading to Europe for the winter so I wanted to give him a chance to reflect on his time with the CWC before crossing the Atlantic. We discuss timely topics like the construction in upper Mill Creek Canyon and the Update to the shuttle feasibility study. Tom’s been working on the shuttle project in particular for many years, so he is able to provide a detailed lowdown on its history. We also discuss the possible rescission of the 2001 Roadless Rule and what that could mean for the Wasatch. Finally, I ask him my favorite question, the question I ask all interviewees. What does the Wasatch mean to you—in unquantifiable terms? I ask this question because I have a gut feeling that there's something you can’t put your finger on that underpins all the work we do at the CWC. I have a feeling the real meaning of the mountains can’t be measured in the distance from your front door to a trailhead or in tax revenue dollars. And it’s possible that that special something will be described differently by different people. Tom, in his unique and surprising way, identifies fun, or the ability to have fun so easily as the “special something” that makes the Wasatch the place he wants to call home. Personally, I think he’s onto something. Fun and playing are antidotes to the harder parts of life, and here, with incredible mountains in reach, we’re able to have a type of fun that rejuvenates those parts of our spirits that get beaten down by the fast pace of the world, the news cycles, the internet, and the relentless attention economy. Tom also admits that, for the last 23 years he’s kept a spreadsheet in which he logs nearly every outdoor activity he does. The title of the spreadsheet, perfectly, amazingly, and ironically, is Fun. It made me laugh when I reflected on our conversation later and realized that his spreadsheet is an effort to quantify the unquantifiable. In any case, I don’t think you’ll be able to listen to this episode without feeling stoked by the end. Tom’s excitement sure rubbed off on me. By the end of our walk I was like “this place is even more incredible than I thought it was” And the result of that realization, for me, is an increased drive to work for the land, to protect it, and an increased drive do everything in my power to find time in my life to get out there and have fun.Chapters:00:00 Intro05:54 Mill Creek Canyon: A Hidden Gem08:57 The Mill Creek Canyon Shuttle Project11:47 The Importance of Recreation14:49 The Role of the Stakeholders Council17:43 Public Engagement and Feedback20:45 The Future of Mill Creek Canyon23:32 Challenges in the Wasatch26:35 The Roadless Rule and Its Implications29:36 The Value of Fun and Recreation32:32 The Role of Youth in Conservation35:33 Reflections on the Central Wasatch38:37 The Impact of Climate Change in the Wasatch41:44 Community and Connection in the Outdoors44:38 The Future of Outdoor Recreation in the Wasatch47:51 Final Thoughts on the Wasatch

Summit Community Gardens and EATS connect Summit County residents, and especially kids to what it really means to live in the Central Wasatch. For the second consecutive year, they have been awarded a grant through CWC's short-term grant program for their environmental education program where they connect kids to the process of growing food in rocky clayey soil at more than 6,600 feet above sea level.   The result? The next generation of Central Wasatch stewards with a deep knowledge of soil health, weather, climate, native vegetation, firewise planting, and how to grow things in the Central Wasatch. It's undeniable that increased local knowledge results in care for place. When people care for the place where they live, as Wallace Stegner once told us, they tend to stick around. And there's almost nothing more beneficial to the Central Wasatch--or any place--than a population who is invested and therefore wants to stay, through thick and thin.  We met Summit Community Gardens' Executive Director Helen Nadel at the garden and she walked us through bee-laden flowers, collaborative areas where kids were harvesting sugar snap peas, the La Milpa plot, and even her own garden plot. Come take a walk with us and learn how the Central Wasatch is benefiting--now and in the future--from the short-term grant Summit Community Gardens received from the CWC.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Central Wasatch Commission02:48 The Mountain Accord and Environmental Stewardship05:55 Summit Community Gardens: A Community Hub09:05 Connecting Kids to Food and Agriculture11:53 Adapting to High Elevation Gardening14:38 Soil Health and Sustainable Practices17:25 Education and Community Engagement20:26 Conclusion and Future DirectionsMountain AccordShort-Term Projects Grant ProgramSummit Community Gardens & EATS

Every year the CWC distributes grants for Short-Term Projects that would help further the goals of the Mountain Accord by implementing transportation and transit solutions, protecting the ecosystems that originate in the Central Wasatch, stewarding recreational access, and sustaining the economic vitality of the area. This year, the Swaner Preserve and Ecocenter applied for a grant to remove old fencing along East Canyon Creek in Kimball Junction, and in May, CWC awarded Swaner $5,000--exactly the amount they needed to pay a trained crew to remove the tangled wire and t-posts from the banks of the creek.To kick off our first "shorts" episode of In The Wasatch, I met Rhea Cone, Swaner's Conservation Director, at the project site to see how the work was progressing. The crew had already removed a quarter mile of fencing but had nearly three-quarters of a mile remaining. "The fencing...has just fallen into disrepair, is a barrier to wildlife passage, and prevents our staff and volunteers from moving safely though the area to do other restoration work," Rhea said. Once the project is complete, she told me, other restoration work can begin. They will be able to plant more narrowleaf cottonwoods and perform invasive species removal, among other needed projects.What really stood out to me, is that in my short time on the Preserve, we saw red tailed hawks, fish, fox holes, ducks, songbirds, and a handful of riled-up and very large bees--evidence that the Swaner Preserve is an incredible bright spot of biodiversity on the edge of a bustling urban center. It's exactly the kind of place that makes the Central Wasatch a place like no other.#wearethewasatch #swanerpreserve #restoration #shorttermgrants #cwc #centralwasatchcommission #wildlifehabitat #conservation #ecosystem #treeplanting #beavers #biodiversity #communityinvolvementTakeawaysThe removal of fencing is crucial for wildlife passage.Tree planting will provide shade and stabilize creek banks.Exclusionary fencing can hinder restoration efforts.Beavers play a vital role in maintaining ecosystems.Planting native species enhances biodiversity.Community involvement is essential for conservation success.Professional help can significantly improve project outcomes.Chapters00:00 Restoration Efforts at East Canyon Creek01:51 Introduction to the Central Wasatch Commission02:23 The Importance of Removing Exclusionary Fencing04:31 Enhancing Wildlife Habitat and Ecosystem06:42 The Role of Beavers in Ecosystem Engineering08:19 Planting Native Species for Biodiversity09:42 Challenges in Restoration Projects11:34 The Impact of Professional Help in Conservation12:27 Conclusion and Call to ActionSwaner Preserve & Ecocenter CWC Short-Term Grants Program

John Knoblock is the Central Wasatch Commission’s outgoing Stakeholders Council Chair. In this role he has actively participated in nearly every System Committee meeting, every Stakeholders Council meeting, and every Board meeting for the last two years. Since his term is up at the end of the month, we wanted to give him a chance to share his thoughts on his tenure in a podcast-style exit interview. To make it a special event we asked him to choose a location in the Central Wasatch that he’s passionate about. For reasons that become increasingly clear through the duration of the conversation, he had me meet him at the foot of Grandeur Peak on a sunny summer morning where the latest section of the Bonneville Shoreline Trail has recently been completed.The conversation switched back and forth as we ascended the singletrack trail, but a strong narrative thread ran throughout: Whether the topic is trails, transportation, or conservation, John touts the importance of embracing long-term thinking. Without a decent grasp of history, he says, it’s hard to remain committed to big and important projects. This newest section of the Bonneville Shoreline Trail, for example, took him more than 20 years to finish. By the end of our walk, 20 years seemed like a much shorter duration than it did at the trailhead. The Mountain Accord is only 10 years old and the Central Wasatch Commission is only seven years old, John reminds us–and big goals such as the Central Wasatch Conservation and Recreation Area Act (CWNCRA) could take 20 years to complete, but they will get done.Chapters00:00 The Journey of the Bonneville Shoreline Trail01:52 Connecting Community and Nature04:51 The Urban-Wildland Interface09:00 Land Acquisition Challenges12:54 Trail Development and Community Involvement15:48 Trail Design Considerations19:47 Legislative Challenges and Opportunities25:32 The Role of IMBA and Community Support30:52 Incremental Progress vs. Comprehensive Solutions34:54 Ski Resorts and Legislative Support35:30 Reflecting on Two Years of Progress41:08 Building Collaborative Relationships47:59 The Long View: Patience in Progress54:07 Education and Long-Term Thinking01:01:08 Finding Common Ground in Conservation01:05:51 The Personal Connection to Nature#BonnevilleShorelineTrail #CentralWasatchCommission #landacquisition #communityinvolvement #traildevelopment #urbanwildlandinterface #outdoorrecreation #environmentalprotection #legislation #IMBA #CentralWasatch #MountainAccord #collaboration #environmentalconservation #longterm thinking #stakeholderengagement #recreation #communitydialogue #sustainabledevelopmentMountain Accord https://cwc.utah.gov/mountainaccord/Central Wasatch Commission https://cwc.utah.gov/Visitor Use Study https://cwc.utah.gov/visitor-use-study/CWNCRA https://cwc.utah.gov/legislation-and-federal-designation/Donate to CWC Project work https://cwc.utah.gov/contribute/Trails Utah https://trailsutah.org/

Season 2 (and winter) have both come to an end, and a new chapter is beginning. While the gamble oaks and maples have been leafing out, a changing of the guard is taking place at the Central Wasatch Commission. Mia McNeil is heading out on an adventure, and Ben Kilbourne, the new Communications Director, will be taking over the pod. Listen to learn a little about Ben and find out how Mia's relationship with the Central Wasatch has changed during her time at CWC. The Mountain Accord Charterhttps://cwc.utah.gov/InstagramFacebook

A public comment period is an essential component to many government projects. It provides evidence as to why the development should or should not be implemented, needs to be reevaluated, or does not follow official protocol. Comments can change the trajectory of a project in a positive way, but how can the public give effective input that makes a substantial difference? Kirk Nichols joins me in this episode to explain how public comment periods work, the history and laws behind them, and ways to improve your comment submissions. "Now is the time. Don’t wait for a comment period, write your legislators, governor, BLM, Forest Service, and Park Service in support and in encouragement to do the right thing by our public lands." - Kirk NicholsResources: How to Participate in RulemakingNational Environmental Policy Act (NEPA)Administrative Procedures Act (APA)Central Wasatch Commissionhttps://cwc.utah.gov/⁠Instagram - Facebook - 

The Central Wasatch Commission was created because of a document called the Mountain Accord charter. This document is the foundation of the organization and its goals to help alleviate issues regarding the economy, environment, recreation, and transportation throughout the Central Wasatch. The CWC’s Executive Director, Lindsey Nielsen, will read verbatim the Mountain Accord charter.  This episode is specifically for auditory learners, who would prefer to listen than to read the document.Mountain Accord Charter: Read hereCentral Wasatch Commissionhttps://cwc.utah.gov/⁠Instagram - Facebook - X

The state of an economy depends on a variety of factors. Job opportunities, housing availability, business prosperity and more. The Central Wasatch’s economy consists of tourism, recreation, hotels, restaurants, and multiple towns and cities. The wasatch front and back are physically separated but have common themes. In this episode, I talk economics with CWC stakeholder Morgan Mingle and how it relates to the four interdependent systems of the Central Wasatch.More Information:Park City Chamber of Commerce and Visitors BureauSustainable Tourism PlanCentral Wasatch Commissionhttps://cwc.utah.gov/⁠Instagram - Facebook - X

Our environment is the foundation of life in local communities. With continuous development, it's crucial to monitor the level of impact imposed on the surrounding water, soil, and inhabitants. The National Environmental Policy Act, commonly known as NEPA, is the law that protects surrounding environments from potential damage. Kirk Nichols joins me in this episode to dive into what NEPA is and how the law is applied in the Central Wasatch.More Information:National Environmental Policy Act | US EPAWhat is the National Environmental Policy Act? | US EPANational Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) 101 | Bureau of Land ManagementCentral Wasatch Commissionhttps://cwc.utah.gov/⁠Instagram - Facebook - X

The first annual Central Wasatch Symposium was a success! The event was held on January 9th and 10th, 2025, at Millcreek City Hall, with various speakers and organizations in attendance. To capture the experience, we walked around in between breakout sessions to hear what attendees and speakers had to say. This episode highlights each person's perspective on the conference and the overall impact of the event. Special thanks to everyone who was interviewed: Molly Chien; Amy Brunvand from Great Old Broads for Wilderness; Adam Shaw from the Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest; Barbara Cameron; Mayor Silvestrini of Millcreek; Lee Ann Hansen; Ella Abelli-Amen from Cottonwood Canyons Foundation; and Andrew Gruber from Wasatch Front Regional Council (WFRC). Want to learn more about the Central Wasatch Symposium? Go to the CWC's website to learn more and stay tuned for next year's event! Learn more here - https://cwc.utah.gov/

The CWC’s first annual Central Wasatch Symposium is right around the corner! This two-day conference is an educational event spotlighting the four systems of the Central Wasatch: economy, environment, recreation, and transportation. The CWC’s Executive Director, Lindsey Nielsen, and Director of Operations, Sam Kilpack, will be with me announcing the Symposium and discussing what this event will look like. Learn more about the Central Wasatch Symposium here! CWC Website: cwc.utah.gov

The CWNCRA series continues with a new episode reviewing iterations of the bill and the changes made over time. The CWC’s Executive Director Lindsey Nielsen and Director of Operations Sam Kilpack will be with me reviewing each version of the CWNCRA. As a reminder, the Central Wasatch National Conservation and Recreation Area Act, also known as the CWNCRA, is a federal, consensus-based bill drafted by the Central Wasatch Commission aimed at protecting the sources of our drinking water, preserving recreational opportunities for the future, and ensuring enjoyment of the Central Wasatch Mountains in the face of pressures from a growing population. The purpose of this episode and the CWNCRA series is to inform people about the bill as the Central Wasatch Commission works towards its establishment. CWNCRA Iterations: https://cwc.utah.gov/legislation-and-federal-designation/  CWC website: https://cwc.utah.gov/  CWNCRA Reading Episode

We will be introducing you to Caitlin Curry who is part of Utah Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, an organization that supports county efforts to conserve public lands in ways that work for local communities and preserve their outdoor legacy for future generations. She is also a member of the CWC’s Stakeholders Council and participates on the Recreation System Committee. Utah Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Website: https://www.backcountryhunters.org/utah CWC Website: https://cwc.utah.gov/

Today we will be introducing you to Jayme Kogel, one of the founders of Speedmo, a local organization passionate about bringing the community of flying athletes together. They host races, gear demos, film viewings, festivals, and track records. A large part of their vision is sustainable recreation in the Central Wasatch. Jayme and I will be discussing flying, sustainability, and collaborative efforts. Speedmo's Website: https://www.speedmo.org/

Today we have the CWC’s Executive Director Lindsey Nielsen and Director of Operations Sam Kilpack back on the In the Wasatch Podcast! One of the primary components of the CWC’s mission is establishing its federal bill for the Central Wasatch: the Central Wasatch National Conservation and Recreational Area Act, also known as the CWNCRA. This will be the first episode in the In the Wasatch “CWNCRA” series, and we will be reading verbatim the October 27th, 2020 version of the CWNCRA, which is the most recent version of the legislation. This episode is specifically for auditory learners, who would prefer to hear the legislation than to read it – and in subsequent series episodes, we will provide a section by section explanation of what the legislation means, in practical terms and another episode to answer “Frequently asked questions.” Website Page: ⁠https://cwc.utah.gov/legislation-and-federal-designation/ ⁠

Wildlife are spread all across the Wasatch. Shauna Hart is a local wildlife photographer who spends her time capturing the beauty of animals in the Central Wasatch. Scott Root is the Conservation Outreach manager for the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources. In this episode, we will talk to Shauna and Scott about wildlife and photography in the Central Wasatch Mountains. Shauna Harts info: Instagram - @byhartphotography Facebook - Shauna L Hart Website - byhartphotography.com Utah Wildlife Federation website: www.utahwildlifefederation.org Save People Save Wildlife website: www.savepeoplesavewildlife.org 

Dani Poirier and Tom Diegel are involved in both the CWC and Wasatch Backcountry Alliance, a local nonprofit organization whose mission is to protect and advocate for backcountry terrain and access, while educating and informing the community. Dani Poirier is on the CWC’s Youth Council as Chair of the Environmental Dashboard Education Committee and also serves as the Director of WBA. Tom Diegel is the Co-Chair of the CWC’s Stakeholders Council and one of the founders of WBA. We will be talking to Dani and Tom in this episode about backcountry recreation in the Central Wasatch Mountains. CWC Website: cwc.utah.gov Social Media: @centralwasatchcommission WBA Website: https://wasatchbackcountryalliance.org/ Social Media: @wasatchbackcountryalliance

Ryan McCann is currently on the CWC’s Youth Council and works for Wasatch Adaptive Sports, a nonprofit organization that was established in 1977 to provide affordable recreational and educational opportunities for children, adults and veterans to share with their support network or family. Their mission is to empower people with disabilities to realize their potential through outdoor recreation. We will be talking to Ryan in this episode of In the Wasatch about adaptive sports in the Central Wasatch Mountains. CWC Website: cwc.utah.gov Social Media: @centralwasatchcommission WAS Website: https://wasatchadaptivesports.org/ Social Media: @wasatchadaptivesports

The Central Wasatch Commission (CWC) is an intergovernmental entity dedicated to protecting the Central Wasatch Mountains by focusing on transportation, recreation, conservation, and the economy. This episode kicks off the ‘In the Wasatch’ podcast with an introduction to who is involved in the CWC, and the values and mission of the organization. CWC Website: cwc.utah.gov Social Media: @centralwasatchcommission