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  Skill Resy Founder Crystal Petrowski has a clear picture of the current issues in the human resource sector.  She has additional evidence of how early iterations of AI are being misused or underutilized by the hiring sector.  She is changing the way that companies use AI to hire while changing the way we all pursue the right fit for our career.   The Innova802 crew can see great promise in Skill Resy because it sets an example for beneficial use of AI.  For that matter, Crystal's intention to create value over a long period of time for people: from early career pursuits to advanced techniques in hiring and getting hired for the more experienced workers places her in a good way to show how long-term thinking can be brought to bear for beneficial use in digital tech.

Transcript taken from SMGtheHouser.substack.com This week, a break from our work solving all the problems of small scale developers in rural America. Besides, our work relies on the success of tech entrepreneurs just as much as it does with municipalities, small business owners, manufacturers and advocates. So it's big tech and entertainment that's got my mind captured this time around. Ted Gioia's recent Substack on George Avakian's entrance into the teenage idol craze circa 1958 left me in my own stream of consciousness, reliving then to now and our slip into idiocracy with MAMLMs (modern advanced machine learning models). What's specifically got me frustrated is our consistent habit of giving up so much agency over tech and the enshitification that ensues. Is our society at large really ok with giving AI models a pass? If so, how did we get here? What began the slippery slope into permission for intellectual sludge which in our time might be on the precipice of being used to eliminate jobs, yours and mine, while further degrading the value of intellectual rigor? Capitalism is good at placing monetary value on a product or service. What it can't do, what it never could do, is place a value on quality. It can't critique, it can't consider, it can't make you look cool in front of your lover while you make an obscure reference. People like Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Abigail Adams and Mercy Otis Warren understood plainly that the Revolutionary ideals that started it all, themselves bearing ideas as far afield from each other as those of John Locke, The Marquis de Condorset and the Haudenosaunee would not last unless the new country they helped launch waseducated. I'd like to believe they were really after a populace rooted in intellectual rigor.  People needed to be able to judge quality. They needed to agree on minimums of toleration while also being able to envision a future rooted in intellectual pursuit. They needed to think for themselves. So, we created the teenage idol. Not knocking you kiddos. I mean, it's adults who keep messing this stuff up. Alongside the creation of a new suburban landscape that launched an entire literary and cultural onslaught based on boredom and depression, came the desire to create cheap art. It was supposed, this would be most desirable to teenagers, fresh to market and flush with disposable income. An advantageous feature for record labels and book publishers was this stuff could be made on the cheap. Why deal with sophisticated adult performers and writers who believe in the artistic process, have 'standards' when you can sign kids with desperate parents. Hell, let's do away with A&R departments. Don't need those anymore. Stan Freberg saw it coming. It's quaint to hear, 'So long music parasite'. Surely, or so he thought, jazz would prevail over the trite. Here's his Payola Roll Blues: Right side of artistry. Wrong side of history. How does this relate to the here and now? Roughly speaking, we've had artists from the mid century to now insisting to us through their art to pay attention. Zappa's Joe of Joe's Garage fame ended up a cucumber living inside his head because, even as the record business debased his fantasy society, faschistic forces were tightening the screws on the public, a public willing to go along in the name of morality. Of cleanliness. We cut music and art programs for everyday America. We amped up the morality police running parallel with the desecration of industrial America. Manufacturing America. Working America. We gave each other permission in a two-parent-working-three-or-four-jobs-household to cut corners on quality of thought. We stopped going out. We stopped having the money… 'not enough time for that'. We stopped believing that our popular cultural pursuits should challenge our notions. Not enough time for that. This led to the next logical conclusion. Don't like being challenged by your college professor, just declare you're triggered and start convulsing on the floor. Let's face it, by the time we got ahold of the fact that suburbia can't pay for itself, and that we're really not sure what 'good' art or music is anymore, and that our kids are getting to college without having read a single novel, now AI is being sold to us as the next big thing, totally going to change the world, totally awesome BTW in totally vague terms. And likely , because it's all totally controlled by an elite who got pants-ed a thousand times in high school for being in the A/V club, is totally coming for your job while stealing your work content even as it can't totally do everything it's creators say it can totally do. Totally indeed. Totally needless. Totally worthless. We've gone from giving permission for lower quality art to giving permission for companies to 'aggregate' art, for free, in order to feed the AI beast. After all, it's just content, right? Why develop the largest opportunity for blanket licensing payments when you can steal writ large across the entire creative class economy? I'm reminded of what it was like as a teenage performing artist forty years ago. 'We can't pay but hey, it's a great opportunity for you to…. get your name out there.' Now the corporate state takes your very identity and converts it into profit. Most folks are too busy surviving to understand how bad this is, let alone understand how we got here. Because, after all, all those imaginary guitar notes, and other tasty thoughts, remain in the imagination of this imaginator. Watch your step, the white zone is for loading and unloading…..  

Cohosts Ryan Munn and Scott Graves delve into what's on the horizon in Vermont tech in 2026. Talk of BETA Technologies recent IPO and its consequences on employment opportunities was high among the list of other companies mentioned that we're watching in the upcoming year.  The list includes OnLogic, former podcast guest Rugged Micropower, Lightshift Energy and more.  If you didn't make the conversation this time around, have no fear.  We're watching YOU, too!  A look at the upcoming year cannot be had without some meaningful conversation on artificial intelligence, advanced manufacturing and cryptocurrency as well. Check out our insightful 2025 conversation with AI leader Peter Voss.   We discussed current policy around these technologies and policy consequences for the workplace, for our country's position as an innovation leader and for society writ large.   Happy New Year from the guys at Innova802.  Reach out to us with your feedback, give us a review and let us know if you have a great story to bring to the Innova802 or Are We Here Yet? Podcasts

VShip is using digital tech to deliver a better way to ship your automobile using the rail system of the United States.  Started by two brothers, Amr and Amhed Aly the company completed the Actuator Program, the accelerator from Black River Innovation Campus in 2024 and recently won in the latest cohort of LaunchVT in the spring of 2025.  The two brothers hail from Egypt and have spent considerable time in New England.  Amhed is a graduate of Amherst College and the two explained for us why Vermont is for them the ideal place to start their business.  We explored the problem they are solving using their technology and the benefits to the trucking and rail industries, in addition to what it takes to build a company that employs people.  The pair is raising capital now and have big plans for their company to expand to other sectors.

The Innova802 crew sat down to take stock together on where we stand on Artificial Intelligence: Its effect on politics, creativity, industry, labor, culture and the possibility of global destabilization.  Have no fear, rather than simply complaining as to the side effects of an inappropriately deployed plan by the tech sector for AI, we delve into each of our insights on how a beneficial future could be wrought through the use of AI.   This could be a highly informative episode for our listeners coming on the heels of the United State's WHite House report,  Winning the Race: America's AI Action Plan Resources mentioned in our discussion Paul Krugman May 9: 'is crypto still for criming'   This common dreams article on SA president and Trump meeting. Grok admitted to musk request to hide the fact musk wanted the bot to emphasize a fake white genocide.   Atlantic: Big Tech's AI Endgame Is Coming Into Focus  Atliantic: One app to rule them all  Ted Goia The Honest Broker 06.15.25

Consorvia's founder, Christina Fedor wants to redefine society's relationship to the creative sector. With their latest client platform the company is fundamentally bringing the individual and the system together to serve people in their effort to self actualize. Our conversation reached into the benefits of letting people young and old flex their deepest and most creative muscles.  Some of the issues with how we interact with tech and the solutions to overcoming these limitations. Consorvia is an R&D ecosystem primed to answer the really big questions that seem to be converging on us at an accelerated rate none of us has experienced before in our lifetimes.  What kind of AI do we truly desire to interact with?  How does tech bring the most creative out of us? How do we build whole new systems for better leveraging tech?

Innova802 Crew Member Will Jeffries represented the team for the Burlington, VT premiere of a new and innovative funding organization, Compound good.  Compound Good is a nonprofit fund that allows donors to make impact investments with philanthropy, unlocking capital for social entrepreneurs. Founders include Vermont Center for Emerging Technologies (VCET), Sage Software and Lawson's Finest Liquids while supported ventures include Little Patahka, Local Maverick and a company familiar to the Innova802 podcast, Shiki Wrap and founder Meagan Downey.   Following a viewing of their latest launch video, they sat down with Will Jeffries in front of a live studio audience.

When you connect with a born to be entrepreneur you know it.  In our experience we place all creatives; the artists, the dreamers, the community builders in this category of human experience.  Our guest for this two part episode exemplifies what we're talking about. In a little more than an hour, Ron Rivers and co-hosts Scott Graves and Ryan Munn explored Ron's development of digital solutions for aiding mission-driven organizations, really community building in Web3 that is meaningful to the human world, focusing on Ron's work with AI for social impact (Nonprofit Navigator and Spirit DAO),  philanthropy reform, and the challenges of synthesizing beneficial aspects of various traditions while avoiding past pitfalls.  We talked about Ron's work to develop The Church of Temporal Naturalism which we explored in depth, particularly in part II.     But what we loved the most about talking with Ron was how he has spent the time necessary to understand and allow others into his understanding for why?  What's behind the importance of understanding how and why we desire to respond to others needs.  His work is asking the question 'can we have meaningful connection and build a more spiritual, less transactional world through the digital realm?  You hear us talk a lot on our podcasts about tech's proper place in our society. Ron lives this every day.  This discussion was insightful, exhilarating and left us with considerable items for self-reflection.  We hope it does the same for you as well.

When you connect with a born to be entrepreneur you know it.  In our experience we place all creatives; the artists, the dreamers, the community builders in this category of human experience.  Our guest for this two part episode exemplifies what we're talking about. In a little more than an hour, Ron Rivers and co-hosts Scott Graves and Ryan Munn explored Ron's development of digital solutions for aiding mission-driven organizations, really community building in Web3 that is meaningful to the human world, focusing on Ron's work with AI for social impact (Nonprofit Navigator and Spirit DAO),  philanthropy reform, and the challenges of synthesizing beneficial aspects of various traditions while avoiding past pitfalls.  We talked about Ron's work to develop The Church of Temporal Naturalism which we explored in depth, particularly in part II.   But what we loved the most about talking with Ron was how he has spent the time necessary to understand and allow others into his understanding for why?  What's behind the importance of understanding how and why we desire to respond to others needs.  His work is asking the question 'can we have meaningful connection and build a more spiritual, less transactional world through the digital realm?  You hear us talk a lot on our podcasts about tech's proper place in our society. Ron lives this every day.  This discussion was insightful, exhilarating and left us with considerable items for self-reflection.  We hope it does the same for you as well.

It was a high point for co-hosts Ryan Munn and Scott M. Graves when they were joined last week by AIGO.AI  founder Peter Voss.  Peter's a long-time innovator, founder, advocate and thinker concerning Artificial Intelligence(he coined the term artificial general intelligence) whose insights shared with us are making us think further, dig deeper into our own advocacy for the best use of AI in order to realize a benefit to a maximum spectrum of the worlds' population.   This is your opportunity to invest with one of the world's most thoughtful innovation leaders in artificial intelligence. Find out more by engaging AIGO.AI.  So what exactly does Peter Voss think about the current state of Artificial Intelligence? Are our current tech sector leaders, politicians and business leaders making the most and for the benefit of all humanity?  Listen now for the answers to these and more questions. We hope we can offer some answers to you while helping you generate your own new and thoughtful questions on the subject of artificial intelligence.

Byron Batres of Scrivnr.com to recount the early days of building his company, the importance for understanding your clients true needs and how these early experiences are informing his latest venture.  Byron's insights are well worth the listen and the service they offer can help those who find themselves without the resources needed to take their loved ones assets out of probate. Part II of II

Byron Batres of Scrivnr.com to recount the early days of building his company, the importance for understanding your clients true needs and how these early experiences are informing his latest venture.  Byron's insights are well worth the listen and the service they offer can help those who find themselves without the resources needed to take their loved ones assets out of probate.

Host Ryan Munn joined founders Nathaniel Klein and Jacob Freedman of Treeline Terrains, 2025 SBA SMall Business Award winners and members of the 2023 cohort for Forest Business Accelerator.  Jacob and Nathaniel shared their origin story with Ryan and share with us multiple key factors for building and funding a successful startup, combining craft with innovative process and technology.   Also mentioned in our podcast, Northern Forest Center & Vermont Sustainable Jobs Fund 

NYC-Based Drew Trombley has deep roots in Vermont tech via the borderlands. Drew grew up in Ticonderoga, NY.  Depending on your perspective that might as well be Vermont. Drew's professional roots stem from the financing sector.  This contributed to moments you'll want to really take in regarding how the venture space conducts its decision-making and how you can set yourself apart when fundraising in ways that create benefit for everyone involved.  Drew had very succinct things to say about fundraising strategy and building truly valuable digital products that emphasize our empathy; the empathy required to produce solutions that benefit others and that work as market responsive solutions where what folks' needs are were discovered, respected and implemented. The capital 'E' missing in tech. Drew also had the chance to fill us in on his latest work at Pinata.  You'll also want to check out the interesting stuff happening in vibecode, a truly web 3.0 experience fast making the rounds into our everyday life.  And if you're tired of the disunion and division of early gen social media, Drew recommends warpcast if you want clarity and to not entirely stop using social media.

Vermont isn't just shrinking in population, its aging.  The state has 30,000 fewer working age citizens between 25-40 then it did 25 years ago.  This, while modest population gains during the Covid-19 pandemic has reversed. For those of us at the Innova802 Crew, we see the effects every day.  Many citizens on fixed incomes, who represent a larger share of the population, cannot afford increases to taxes for education, infrastructure and public healthcare subsidies.   For many, the gut reaction is to say, no new Vermont citizens, no new Vermont students, no new Vermont employers taking in  public investment dollars.  While this may seem intuitively correct, it is in fact the path to a downward economic cycle that becomes very challenging to reverse, especially for rural states. We hosted Kevin Chu, Executive Director of the Vermont Futures Project during season nine of the Are We Here Yet? podcast.  One year later, the Innova802 crew had him back to talk about the effort to get all Vermonters on the same page, writing a book of growth in order to create a more livable Vermont bursting at the seams with opportunity and the right balance between caring for our neighbors and having the ability to pay for it.  Listen to VFP on Marketplace This Are We Here Yet? podcast is in association with the Innova802 podcast. This conversation on rural development is so important, we're hosting it on The Housers Podcast, too!

Listeners looking to learn how to build and survive launching your rural tech hub will relate to our latest guest, Abby Salomon's story. The central Vermont town of Randolph, host to her organization known as Cultivator is also a resilient community in a truly resilient state.  We talked about the challenge to reinventing funding in the  current climate of 2025 for such projects, the importance of mentorship to the programming offered and the real challenge of servicing a wide spectrum of small business while still working to build a new cluster of tech oriented, well-paying companies.  Follow Cultivator or join their program

Open Innovation has become essential to good science being completed by our institutions.  Our guest this week, Steve Rader speaks with experience on how open innovation, rather crowdsourcing has and will shape good science work moving forward. Steven recently retired from NASA and is an expert in open innovation after 36 years with NASA at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, TX.    We discussed his experiences leveraging crowdsourcing and open innovation to achieve significant cost savings and accelerate technological advancements at NASA,  including nearly 900 successful challenges within his career.  He highlighted the importance of understanding a problem's root causes before brainstorming solutions and the four "G's" driving participation (Gold, Guts, Glory, and Good) by thousands of our neighbors passionate about the work of science.   Our listeners can connect with Steve by clicking here.  This Are We Here Yet? podcast is in association with the Innova802 podcast.

Sharing the mic with Interchain.Live and fellow Innova802 crew member Ryan Munn brought Richard Lowe to our virtual studios for a discussion regarding Rich's experience as a ghostwriter and author in his own right.  The discussion quickly deepened to include his perspective on building the bionic worker: getting business to leverage tech to support workers as opposed to leveraging tech to replace them.  The importance of leveraging older workers who are living longer and what experienced professionals bring to the table for companies and society.   Rich is a deep well of experience on a number of important topics that we encourage you to think more on after listening. Find our discussion on the Are We Here Yet? Podcast roster as well as Innova802 and Interchain Live.

Paul Shepherd is no stranger to the Vermont high tech community.  He recently launched Rugged MicroPower to take what he's learned working for leading Vermont tech companies and applying them to build a leader in providing power management solutions to the space industry. Our conversation touched upon the intricacies of supply-chain, too.  We also offer our congrats to Paul and the other members of the 2025 cohort of LaunchVT, announced recently.  Find our 2024 interview with LaunchVT's Lauren Bass. 

Adam Locklin is the new executive director of the Vermont Technology Alliance(VTTA). His tenure began in January of 2025 after 20+ years with founding Executive Director Jeff Couture at the helm.   Adam filled the Innova802 crew in on what he's learned so far traveling throughout Vermont on a whirlwind tour to understand the needs of existing and prospective members of Vermont's only tech-centric membership advocacy organization.  Some  surprises have already come to the fore from the feedback Adam has received.  We hope to have Adam back on a regular basis to focus on a number of tech policy or advocacy issues including data privacy, venture capital, housing and economic development policy.  Full disclosure: The VTTA is a sponsor of the Innova802 podcast, produced in partnership by Interchain Live and M the Media Project of SMGraves Associates.

We spoke with Burlington, VT's Bryn Loftness, Co-Founder and CEO of Biobe.  Their startup, currently focused on non-dilutive funding, intends to help one million children by 2030.  They provide early detection technology and an emotional regulation toolkit to the children's mental health ecosystem.   Bryn is by her own definition a storyteller, and the Innova802 crew found she is telling a compelling story we should all be listening in on.   Like many startups in Vermont she has participated in LaunchVT.  The accelerator has a cohort reveal mixer scheduled for April 2, 2025.   Listen to the 2024 interview between Scott Graves & LaunchVT's Lauren Bass on the 'Are We Here Yet?' Podcast.

The latest form the Innova802 Crew brought Jerry Carter, partner in Burlington, VT's Moody Advisors into the virtual studio this month to talk about the current trends we're experiencing inside and outside of venture-capital for Vermont's rural startups.  We spoke about the changing market for venture-backed companies in the Green Mountain State.  WHat sectors are getting the most attention from funders? What can founders expect for terms?  What can we do to expand or improve the current conditions? Stay tuned for an exciting look at what's possible here in the 802.

Meagan Downey is founder of Vermont-based ShikiWrap.com, a successful and maturing startup providing reusable gift wrap and bags, combining a consumer product with a mission-driven strategy.  This experience coupled with Meagan's earlier work in mission-driven fundraising gave her the experience and perspective that drives her newest endeavor the Compound Fund. 'Non-profit is a tax status not a business strategy' resonated tenfold with the Innova802 crew.  And Meagan is adept at using existing financial tools in noble ways to generate success. In this episode we discussed Meagan's founder experience and she takes us into her philosophy for stewarding new business and driving the boat on funding a business. If you're searching for perspective and tactical considerations for your own founders journey, please listen in.

We offer you the second part of our interview with founder Darren Mark and COO Mike Walton of Humnet.live You've heard the Innova802 crew speak to the idea that we give too much credence to the tech around our daily lives, surrendering a lot of our agency over how we control the use of tech for good, rather than engaging with it in truly useful and healthy ways. Often, it may be better if we turned the devices off and speak the truth TO  one another, ending the isolation we feel which can lead to any number of negative consequences to society.   But what if someone turned that idea on its head to the benefit of people? What if focused at least in part on a way to make the tech work better for us in keeping people connected.    Our guests for a two part podcast are working this right here, right now.  Darren Mark is the founder of humnet.live.  We spoke with Darren and COO and mentor Matt Walton about the path to building and funding humnet.live.  We spoke to the need for human connection and the consequences we're experiencing due to increased isolation.  It came to no surprise to some of the Innova802 crew Darren's background as an artist, a writer for the screen.  For it is the artists that lead us into new territory, that address the most human and essential within us.  Asking the tough questions fearlessly.    We hope you enjoy!

You've heard the Innova802 crew speak to the idea that we give too much credence to the tech around our daily lives, surrendering a lot of our agency over how we control the use of tech for good, rather than engaging with it in truly useful and healthy ways. Often, it may be better if we turned the devices off and speak the truth TO  one another, ending the isolation we feel which can lead to any number of negative consequences to society.  But what if someone turned that idea on its head to the benefit of people? What if focused at least in part on a way to make the tech work better for us in keeping people connected.    Our guests for a two part podcast are working this right here, right now.  Darren Mark is the founder of humnet.live.  We spoke with Darren and COO and mentor Matt Walton about the path to building and funding humnet.live.  We spoke to the need for human connection and the consequences we're experiencing due to increased isolation.  It came to no surprise to some of the Innova802 crew Darren's background as an artist, a writer for the screen.  For it is the artists that lead us into new territory, that address the most human and essential within us.  Asking the tough questions fearlessly.   We hope you enjoy!  

Hosts Ryan Munn and Scott Graves are joined by Justin Loranger of web3iam in what we're sure you'll find to be an excellent primer on why blockchain is the key to transforming crypto into accepted currency, offering security and stability. Why should you anticipate the value of your name and that of your company in the digital realm? Lots to learn for building our rural economies (you don't need to be in a city to leverage this tech to your benefit).  In collaboration with Interchain Live and M the Media Project.   

2025: Where Do We Go From Here? The Innova802 Crew discuss their thoughts on 2024, the year that was and pontificate on 2025, a year already flooding the airwaves with contentious tech policy maneuvers, authoritarianism, crypto making headlines….tech is at the top of virtually every news cycle and the Innova802 crew is there to let you know how it affects our Vermont rural tech environment.

UVM student leader Henrik Van Tassel shares what projects are developing in the University's Open Source Community including the Vermont Complex Systems Institute, the CS Crew student club and VERSO.  You may remember the latter organization's Director Kendall Fortney making an appearance in Season II of the Innova802 podcast.

It's a new legislative cycle in the state of Vermont.  Co-host Scott Graves participated along with other leaders including Attorney General Charity Clark on Monday January 27 in support of State Rep. Monique Priestley's efforts to pass data privacy legislation for Vermont.   Innova802 shorts are a mid-week look at current events in rural tech. Find our Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@interchainlive

We're diving into Blockchain and Crypto as the new year comes into being. Innova802 co-host Ryan Munn is no stranger to how blockchain could transform the way we think of and transact money.  But our society has placed some significant barriers to accepting blockchain.  Why is this so?  Are we advocating for a bunch of cavalier tech-bros and their ponzi schemes or is there more substance to the idea that blockchain could create a more robust and secure financial environment for all of us.   In Part II co-hosts Ryn Munn and Scott Graves discuss the technical side of blockchain and how it can be a benefit to stabilizing transactions while decentralizing the power behind our money and making investments.   This is an ongoing study of blockchain and crypto currency, a collaborative project of Interchain Live & SMGraves Associates Click for Youtube Live: Interchain Live PodcastSponsored by Vermont Tech Alliance(VTTA) & Black River Innovation Campus(BRIC)

Glavel is a construction materials company manufacturing foam glass gravel, or in company parlance GLAVEL.  CEO Rob Conboy sat down with the Innova802 crew to discuss what it took to bring this technology to market in the US.  How are they leading in recycling and carbon sequestration, excellence in innovative construction materials how they plan for growth and what effect they can have contributing to solve the housing crisis.  We recently toured their facility and give credit to the Glavel team for epitomizing what a Vermont rural innovation company should look like.  Shout out to those mentioned who helped this team and many other Innova802 guests along the way including Flexible Capital Fund, Fresh Tracks Capital and  Rural Works. Stay on the line for host Scott M. Graves's personal tribute to one of his inspirations, the legendary composer, arranger, producer and entrepreneur Quincy Jones.  Jones passed away at his home in Los Angeles on November 3 at the age of 91.

We joined Ace McCarleton of Vermont-based New Frameworks to talk about their panelized building innovations for the housing marketplace.  New Frameworks practices high performance natural building towards the construction of climate justice and regeneration.  Innovation is expressed in their home construction products and processes, their sourcing of materials, for sure.  But it's also in their employee-ownership model, their steadfast dedication to inclusion and more.   Learn in two episodes their origin story, Ace's thoughts on housing innovation, employee ownership and how to grow a company that consistently leads through example. Plus in The Jazz Room we celebrate the Drummers!  Host Joan Watson-Jones dedication to drummers. Though she did not have the pleasure of interviewing the great Roy Haynes who passed away last week, we have many of his friends to celebrate in this episode.

We joined Ace McCarleton of Vermont-based New Frameworks to talk about their panelized building innovations for the housing marketplace.  New Frameworks practices high performance natural building towards the construction of climate justice and regeneration.  Innovation is expressed in their home construction products and processes, their sourcing of materials, for sure.  But it's also in their employee-ownership model, their steadfast dedication to inclusion and more.   Learn in two episodes their origin story, Ace's thoughts on housing innovation, employee ownership and how to grow a company that consistently leads through example. Listen to Part I, Episode 174 Explore New Frameworks New Frameworks Beam Embodied Carbon Calculator tool  Link to panels page Link to the Casitas models  And the The Jazz Room… We celebrate the Saxophonists!  Our episode includes the likes of Billy Pierce, Jackie MacLean, Coleman Hawkins and John Coltrane.

We're diving into Blockchain and Crypto as the new year comes into being. Innova802 co-host Ryan Munn is no stranger to how blockchain could transform the way we think of and transact money.  But our society has placed some significant barriers to accepting blockchain.  Why is this so?  Are we advocating for a bunch of cavalier tech-bros and their ponzi schemes or is there more substance to the idea that blockchain could create a more robust and secure financial environment for all of us.  We discuss how global governments, power transitions, politics and currency policy is all playing its role.  This is an ongoing study of blockchain and crypto currency, a collaborative project of Interchain Live & SMGraves Associates  Click for Youtube Live: Interchain Live Podcast Sponsored by Vermont Tech Alliance(VTTA) & Black River Innovation Campus(BRIC)