It's Not That Deep

A completely unfiltered chat with my friend Connor Deighton about guy-girl friendships, dating, growing up, and why he keeps bailing on girls he actually likes. It’s equal parts banter and emotional honesty, with a few gym stories, a barista crush, and some surprisingly deep reflections on maturity and self-awareness. No theme, no structure - just a real conversation that somehow makes total sense anyway.

In this episode of It’s Not That Deep, Llani sits down with her good friend Isaac John — better known as Ice — to unpack the mindset behind his journey from professional footy to building YKTR, navigating loyalty breakdowns, and rediscovering what really matters in life.From irrational icks to childhood discipline, running a brand like a footy team, and why giving without expecting anything back has been both his superpower and downfall, this is a raw and wide-ranging conversation about success, ego, relationships, and the pursuit of peace.

This is me, through the eyes of someone who knows me better than almost anyone.In this episode, I sit down with my best friend of 15 years, Ben Hicks — the other half of my brain, my reality check, my roastmaster, and a walking archive of my most unfiltered eras. It’s equal parts chaos and clarity: we talk shit, talk feelings, and talk about me (obviously).You’ll hear about:Our language: Stunnalina, the pousse-roie, Moana sign-offsMy red flags (he’s brutal), green flags (thank you), and dating patternsMy journey with weight, confidence, control, and being “chill until I’m not”Why our friendship works — and how we argue better than most couplesPlus thoughts on career, quiet quitting, and trusting your own timelineIt’s funny, a little deep, and very much us. Hope it makes you feel a little more seen, or at least entertained.

Katie Martin is one of my closest friends and also one of the most grounded voices in health and fitness. You probably know her from Sweat, Lululemon or marathon training — but in this chat she opens up about the side of wellness no one talks about.We go deep on the myth of balance, why wellness fatigue is real, the truth about calories and gut health, learning to rest without guilt, and the messy in-between of building a career, moving cities and figuring out love.It’s honest, a little chaotic, and will probably make you rethink what “healthy” really means.

In this episode, I sit down with one of the most misunderstood, chaotic, and unexpectedly deep people I know—Jordan Simi aka just, Simi.We cover everything from growing up in South Auckland to being a dad of two, his past life as a party boy, his public love stories, and the real reason he hasn’t been painting lately. We talk love, growth, furniture, fighting (literally), and finding peace.It’s raw. It’s hilarious. And it’s surprisingly vulnerable.This is Simi like you’ve never heard him before.

If It Costs Your Peace, It’s Too Expensive — with Jade SpoonerHosted by Llani Belle, this episode features Jade Spooner, who went from co-founding a multi-million-dollar nutrition empire to walking away at its peak — and somehow came out softer, happier, and more herself. We get into ambition, identity shifts, knowing when to quit, the ego that comes with success, and why your 30s just hit different. It’s part founder story, part dating debrief, and part best-friend banter.

Welcome to It’s Not That Deep — casually deep convos that hit different. In this first ep, I talk about who I am, why I started this pod, my chaotic career story (hi redundancy), and why I think we all need more late-night-car-chat energy in our lives. It’s real, reflective, slightly unhinged — and just the beginning. Subscribe for weekly episodes, solo + with guests.