Kiln Rendez-Vous Podcast

In this second episode of Kiln L1 Ecosystems Rendez-Vous, we sit down with Don Wilson, the founder and CEO of DRW. DRW is a diversified trading firm with over 2,000 employees across major financial hubs with proven expertise innovating across both traditional and cutting-edge markets. Listen as Don shares his unique insights on:🔸 The origins of DRW and its evolution into a global trading powerhouse🔸 How DRW entered the crypto space (hint: Bitcoin in 2012!)🔸 The birth of Cumberland (now a top crypto liquidity provider) and Digital Asset (company pushing Canton Network)🔸 Why privacy and composability are critical for institutional DeFi adoption🔸 DRW’s groundbreaking work on tokenized treasuries and collateral mobility🔸 The future of Canton Network as a bridge between TradFi and blockchainDon also discusses the regulatory landscape, the convergence of AI and finance, and why he believes Canton could become the go-to L1 for institutional assets.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id172924722600:00 - Intro01:32 - Don’s background & founding DRW03:59 - DRW’s early crypto bets (Cumberland, Bitcoin, Digital Asset)07:37 - Cumberland’s role in crypto liquidity09:50 - Institutional adoption of DeFi11:45 - U.S. crypto regulation updates14:02 - The genesis of Digital Asset & Canton Network17:18 - Why privacy matters in institutional blockchain24:14 - Tokenizing real-world assets (RWA) on Canton27:28 - Canton's 5-10 year outlook28:58 - What excites Don most about finance & tech today

In this episode, we sit down with Yuval Rooz, CEO & Co-founder of Digital Asset, the company behind Canton Network—the leading blockchain for regulated finance, trusted by Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Börse, and more.Canton isn’t just another L1—it’s the future of onchain finance, blending institutional-grade infrastructure with DeFi’s composability. Tune in to learn how it’s bridging TradFi and crypto, without compromises. We dive into:🔹 Canton’s $135M strategic round (backed by Citadel, Goldman Sachs, Circle & more)🔹 Why privacy ≠ anonymity—and why it’s critical for institutional DeFi🔹 How Canton scales horizontally while maintaining seamless interoperability🔹 $4T+ in tokenized assets already on Canton (and why you haven’t heard about it)🔹 Real-world use cases from NASDAQ, Tradeweb, and beyondPODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id172924722600:00 - 01:14 – Introduction & Canton’s Momentum01:14 - 03:15 – Yuval’s Background: Finance to Crypto03:15 - 06:10 – Building Canton: The Early Days06:10 - 12:10 – Canton’s Core Innovations12:10 - 17:04 – Architecture Deep Dive17:04 - 23:20 – Institutional Use Cases23:20 - 28:17 – Ecosystem & Validators28:17 - 35:38 – Why Canton’s Flying Under the Radar35:38 - 41:48 – Future of Canton41:48 - 52:20 – Rapid-Fire Q&A52:20 - End – Closing Remarks

In this insightful episode of Kiln DeFi Rendez-Vous, host Laszlo Szabo, CEO & Co-Founder at Kiln, sits down with Duncan Moir, President of 21Shares, the world’s largest crypto ETP issuer, for a deep dive into the explosive growth of Bitcoin ETFs, the evolving landscape of institutional crypto adoption, and what’s next for digital asset investing.Less than a year after their launch, Bitcoin ETFs have captured nearly 70% of the trading volume of gold ETFs (GLD)—a staggering milestone that underscores the pent-up demand for crypto exposure in traditional finance. Duncan breaks down why this is just the beginning, with the $40 trillion US pension fund market still largely on the sidelines.The conversation explores how major players like Goldman Sachs are entering the space, why Ethereum ETFs haven’t seen the same success as Bitcoin (yet), and the critical role of staking in ETPs—especially in Europe, where 21Shares has pioneered innovative products. Duncan shares his unique perspective on regulation, from the UK’s recent shift allowing retail crypto ETNs to the SEC’s cautious approach in the US.With over 40 crypto ETPs under its belt, 21Shares has become a bellwether for institutional crypto adoption. Duncan reveals how the company selects new assets, from blue-chip tokens to emerging altcoins, and why Dogecoin—often dismissed as a memecoin—has surprising institutional potential. He also discusses the growing intersection of traditional finance and on-chain assets, including the tokenization of real-world assets (RWA) like BlackRock’s BUIDL money market fund.Before joining 21Shares, Duncan spent years in hedge funds and asset management, eventually leading Aberdeen’s digital asset division and serving on the board of Hedera Hashgraph. He shares lessons from his journey, including how blockchain can streamline archaic financial systems and why crypto is maturing beyond speculative trading into a strategic portfolio allocation.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id172924722600:00 – Intro & ETF Momentum02:49 – Duncan’s Crypto Journey05:27 – Tokenization & Hedera08:43 – ETF Adoption: US vs Europe10:39 – UK Retail & Regulation Shift14:12 – 21Shares Structure & Global Focus16:36 – ETH vs. BTC ETF Performance18:58 – Staking & Liquidity Constraints23:39 – Coin Coverage & Research Process27:17 – Tokenized Assets & Future Products30:26 – What Excites Duncan Today32:23 – Dogecoin & Community-Driven Use Cases

Join us for an insightful conversation between Marieke Flament—seasoned tech executive, investor, and former CEO of the NEAR Foundation—and Thomas De Phuoc, COO and Co-Founder of Kiln, as they reflect on their years of collaboration, leadership lessons, and the evolving landscape of startups and Web3.This discussion begins with a look back at how their professional paths first crossed in 2017 at Circle, where Marieke played a pivotal role in shaping Thomas’s early career. From there, the conversation unfolds into a masterclass on leadership, team-building, and the nuances of scaling a company with intention.Marieke shares her unique perspective on hiring, emphasizing the importance of passion over pedigree, and why cultural fit can make or break a company. Drawing from her experiences at Expedia, Circle, and NEAR, she breaks down the dynamics of high-performing teams, comparing them to a well-coordinated basketball team where trust and collaboration overtake individual brilliance.Thomas echoes these insights, reflecting on Kiln’s journey and the principles that have guided its growth—transparency, storytelling, and resilience in the face of crypto’s notorious volatility. Together, they explore how founders can maintain focus during market downturns, why self-awareness is non-negotiable for leaders, and how Europe’s tech ecosystem can compete on a global scale despite regulatory fragmentation.A highlight of the discussion is Marieke’s work with Project Europe, an initiative uniting founders and operators to strengthen the continent’s startup ecosystem. She outlines the challenges—such as complex cross-border investment rules and inconsistent stock option policies—while expressing optimism about Europe’s deep talent pool and long-term commitment to innovation.The conversation also touches on the transition from operator to board member, the role of coaching in leadership development, and the personal habits that help founders navigate high-pressure environments.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id172924722600:00 - Introduction & How They Met 00:48 - Marieke’s Career Journey (Circle, Expedia, Near) 03:35 - Why Tech? + Lessons from Early Roles 04:11 - Building Culture & High-Performing Teams 06:00 - Hiring Passionate People & Interview Tips 09:14 - Leadership, Trust & Team Dynamics 13:06 - Scaling, Storytelling & Culture Alignment 23:23 - Coaching, Self-Awareness & Growth 28:59 - European Tech & Project Europe 34:30 - Talent, Retention & Ecosystem Strengths 36:23 - Serving on Boards & Strategic Leadership 43:43 - Macro Trends, Resilience & Long-Term Focus 50:41 - Lessons Learned & Final Takeaways

In this conversation, Jess Houlgrave, CEO of Reown, discusses the evolution of blockchain technology and its implications for the financial system. She shares her journey from traditional finance to the crypto space, emphasizing the importance of user experience in Web3. The discussion covers the rise of stablecoins, the evolution of wallets, and the decentralization of Wallet Connect. Jess also highlights the monetization strategies for Web3 and the integration of AI in enhancing user experiences. The conversation concludes with a forward-looking perspective on the future of payments and the role of innovation in the crypto ecosystem.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id172924722600:00 Introduction to Reown and Blockchain Innovations02:51 Jess Journey from Traditional Finance to Crypto06:08 User Experience Challenges in Web309:03 Wallet Connect's User Base and Global Reach11:52 The Rise of Stablecoins in Emerging Markets15:10 The Evolution of Wallets and User Preferences18:01 Decentralization and Governance of Wallet Connect20:53 Reown: A New Era for Wallet Connect23:47 Monetization Strategies in Web326:54 The Future of Payments and Crypto Integration29:49 The Role of AI in Crypto and User Experience33:06 Conclusion and Future Outlook

Join Laszlo Szabo, CEO & Co-Founder of Kiln, for a conversation with Adam Levine, SVP of Corporate Development & Partnerships and CEO of Fireblocks Trust Company.In this episode, Adam shares insights into Fireblocks’ strategic expansion into regulated custody, explaining why they launched their New York-based trust company, how it serves institutional clients like VCs and market makers, and the operational challenges of balancing innovation with compliance.The discussion dives into the role of stablecoins in global payments, with real-world examples from emerging markets like Brazil and Argentina, where dollar-denominated stablecoins are mitigating currency volatility and accelerating cross-border transactions. Adam also unpacks Fireblocks’ vision for tokenization—from traditional assets like T-bills to unconventional ones like investment-grade wine—and how interoperability between blockchains will unlock liquidity in the years ahead.Security remains a cornerstone of the conversation, as Adam reflects on lessons from high-profile hacks (including the recent Bybit incident) and how Fireblocks’ infrastructure prioritizes risk mitigation without compromising efficiency. Looking forward, he predicts 2025 will be a year of decisive action for banks and asset managers, with stablecoins and tokenization moving from pilot projects to core infrastructure—even if the full impact may take years to materialize.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id172924722600:00 - Introduction02:15 - The Fireblocks Trust Company: Bridging tech and regulation10:30 - How custody changes Fireblocks’ day-to-day operations18:45 - Stablecoins as the backbone of global payments27:10 - Tokenization beyond crypto: Bonds, wine, and fractional ownership35:50 - Security lessons from Bybit and protecting institutional assets45:20 - Why 2024 is the year banks make big blockchain decisions52:00 - What’s next for Fireblocks? Interoperability and beyond

In this episode, John Mulreany interviews Jacob Phillips, Co-Founder of Lombard Finance, discussing his journey into the blockchain space, the opportunities in Bitcoin DeFi, and the role of LBTC as a liquid-staked representation of Bitcoin. They explore the differences between retail and institutional users, the significance of Babylon in Bitcoin staking, and the security measures implemented in Lombard's protocol. In this conversation, Jacob discusses the company's unique position in the Bitcoin LST space, their roadmap for expanding adoption through partnerships, and innovative strategies like pre-deposit vaults. He also addresses yield opportunities with LBTC, future milestones focusing on scalability and sustainability, and the intersection of AI and crypto as a significant trend.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Lombard Finance and Jacob Phillips02:58 Jacob's Journey into Blockchain and Crypto05:57 Identifying Opportunities in Bitcoin DeFi09:12 Understanding LBTC and Its Role in DeFi12:00 Retail vs. Institutional Users of LBTC15:00 The Role of Babylon in Bitcoin Staking18:05 Security Considerations in Lombard's Protocol31:58 Lombard's Unique Position in Bitcoin LSTs32:08 Expanding Adoption: Partnerships and Roadmap34:09 Innovative Pre-Deposit Vaults: A New Approach39:42 Yield Opportunities with LBTC: Simplifying Returns44:20 Future Milestones: Scalability and Sustainability48:10 The Intersection of AI and Crypto: Future Trends

Join us for an in-depth conversation with Raagulan Pathy, Co-Founder of KAST, and host Laszlo Szabo, CEO & Co-Founder at Kiln, as we explore how stablecoins are reshaping the global financial system. Raagulan shares his journey from traditional web2 industries to becoming "the stablecoin guy". He discusses how his experiences—from working in telecom in Nigeria to scaling cloud infrastructure—shaped his vision for KAST, a platform bridging the gap between traditional banking and decentralized finance.Throughout the episode, we cover:• The real-world utility of stablecoins: How projects like USDC are solving inefficiencies in emerging markets and beyond.• KAST’s mission: Building a seamless, bank-like experience for stablecoin users worldwide, including virtual accounts, payment links, and multi-chain compatibility.• The future of DeFi and regulation: Why stablecoins are gaining traction despite regulatory uncertainty, and how KAST navigates licensing across borders.• Upcoming innovations: Insights into KAST’s self-custodial wallet, yield-generating stablecoins (USDK/USDKY), and long-term plans for an L2 tailored to payments.Raagulan also shares his thoughts on crypto adoption, the pitfalls of short-term token incentives, and why user experience will determine the winners in the onchain economy. Whether you're a crypto native or new to stablecoins, this episode offers a compelling look at the infrastructure underpinning finance’s next chapter.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter

In this conversation, Nanak Nihal Khalsa discusses his journey into the crypto space, focusing on decentralized identity, the concept of human keys, and the importance of entropy in cryptography. He explains how the Human Network aims to provide secure and private identity solutions while addressing compliance challenges. The discussion also touches on the vision of the Holonym Foundation and the broader implications of digital rights in developing countries.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Nanak Nihal Khalsa and His Journey03:40 Understanding Decentralized Identity and Its Importance06:31 The Concept of Human Keys and Their Role10:12 Entropy in Cryptography and Its Significance15:58 Backup Mechanisms for Human Keys19:10 Leveraging Restaking Protocols for Network Security22:55 Economic Security and Collateral in the Human Network25:14 The Vision of the Holonym Foundation27:36 Use Cases of Human Network Beyond Crypto32:48 Balancing Privacy and Compliance in B2B Settings37:09 Digital Rights and the Future of Crypto

In this episode, Douwe Faasen, CEO & Co-Founder at HyveDA shares his journey into the crypto space, discussing the importance of data availability and how HyveDA aims to revolutionize this aspect of blockchain technology. He explains the lifecycle of data blobs within HyveDA, potential real-world applications, and the use cases of AI and DePin. Douwe also highlights the unique features of HyveDA, including its approach to restaking and shared security, and discusses future milestones for the project.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to HyveDA07:49 HyveDA's Unique Approach to Data Availability14:43 Real-World Applications of HyveDA's Throughput19:50 The Symbiotic Relationship Between HyveDA and Symbiotic27:23 Mitigating Data Withholding Attacks33:47 Douwe's Interest in DeFi and Closing Thoughts

In this conversation, Vaibhav Tyagi from Capx.ai discusses the evolution and significance of AI agents within the crypto ecosystem. He shares his background in product development and how he transitioned into the crypto space, emphasizing the intersection of AI and blockchain technology.Being an Actively Validated Service on both EigenLayer and Symbiotic, Tyagi explains why this choice was made and what the benefits behind it are. Tyagi explains the concept of autonomous AI agents, their differences from traditional bots, and the potential they hold for the future. He also outlines Capx.ai's role in facilitating the development and deployment of AI agents, highlighting the importance of a dedicated blockchain for these agents and the need for seamless user experiences in the crypto space. In this conversation, Tyagi from Capx.ai discusses the innovative features of Capx chain, focusing on tokenization for AI agents, the integration of Capx Cloud with both Web2 and Web3 solutions, and the importance of decentralization. He elaborates on the roadmap for Capx, including the upcoming mainnet launch and the significance of revenue metrics for AI agents. The discussion also touches on the intriguing world of meme coins and their impact on the crypto landscape.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to AI Agents and Tyagi's Background07:18 Understanding AI Agents in Crypto12:45 The Intersection of AI and Crypto22:18 The Future of AI Agents and Blockchain Agnosticism30:12 Capx Cloud: Bridging Web2 and Web3 Solutions39:25 Decentralization and Node Structures in Capx Cloud47:13 Roadmap and Future Developments for Capx52:24 AI Agents and Revenue Metrics

In this conversation, Sébastien Rannou and pwnh from Kiln co-host Terence Tsao, Core Ethereum Developer at Offchain Labs. Together, they discuss the upcoming Ethereum upgrade known as Pectra, focusing on its implications for the consensus layer and the development process behind it. Terence shares his journey in Ethereum development, the challenges faced in implementing various EIPs, and the importance of testing in the upgrade process. The discussion also touches on the future of Ethereum, the role of Prysm in the ecosystem, and the anticipated changes with the Beam Chain.RESSOURCES MENTIONED: 🧵 Ethereum Magicians thread: https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/pectra-retrospective/22637/32📄 Hash-Based Multi-Signatures for Post-Quantum Ethereum whitepaper: https://eprint.iacr.org/2025/055.pdfPODCAST INFO:🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Ethereum and Guests06:27 Insights on the Pectra Upgrade14:38 Prism's Role in EIP Implementation21:11 Technical Debt in Consensus Clients28:36 Reflections on Go and Prism's Architecture34:24 Retrospective on Pectra's Development40:01 Resources and Recommendations

In this episode of the Kiln Bitcoin Staking Rendez-Vous, Engin Erdogan, VP of Product at Thesis*, discusses his journey in the crypto space, the mission of Thesis*, and the innovative Mezo network. He emphasizes the importance of user experience and product market fit in developing Bitcoin-based products, particularly in the context of staking and bridging Bitcoin to enhance its utility. In this conversation, Engin Erdogan discusses the intricacies of TBTC, its role in Bitcoin staking, and the roadmap for Mezo. He emphasizes the importance of making Bitcoin more productive and useful, while also addressing the cultural shifts within the Bitcoin community and the broader crypto ecosystem. The discussion highlights the potential for Bitcoin staking protocols and the future of Bitcoin as a financial infrastructure.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Engin Erdogan and Thesis*06:06 Understanding Mezo: Architecture and Purpose12:04 The Importance of Product Market Fit17:59 Bridging Bitcoin to Mezo for Staking28:10 Understanding TBTC and Its Role in Bitcoin Staking40:40 The Vision for Bitcoin Staking51:12 The Future of Bitcoin in the Crypto Ecosystem

In this episode, Edgar Roth and Sébastien Rannou from Kiln engage with Jonas, Co-Founder, and CTO of Chainbound, to discuss the evolution of blockchain technology, focusing on Chainbound's projects, including Fiber, Echo, and Bolt. They delve into the concept of pre-confirmations, the challenges faced in designing Bolt, and the importance of economic security. The conversation also touches on the future of pre-confirmations in Ethereum, the role of restaking and shared security, and the implications of a universal registry contract. Additionally, they explore the intersection of AI and blockchain, offering insights for new builders in the space.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Chainbound05:56 Exploring Chainbound's Projects: Fiber and Echo11:47 Challenges in Designing Bolt and Economic Security18:03 Universal Registry Contracts and Their Impact23:57 Shared Security and Restaking in Chainbound's Vision32:42 Understanding Kiln's Operator Registration Process38:17 The Role of Restaking in Simplifying Protocols44:36 Exploring Interests Beyond Blockchain50:17 Recommended Resources for Blockchain Enthusiasts

In this episode, Edgar Roth, Protocol Specialist at Kiln, and Sébastien Rannou, Principal Engineer at Kiln engage with Murat Akdeniz, CEO & Co-Founder at Primev. They discuss his journey into blockchain and the evolution of pre-confirmations and MEV in Ethereum. They explore the significance of mev-commit, the role of restaking, and the economic incentives for validators. The conversation delves into the future of Ethereum, the competitive landscape of block building, and the integration of AI in Web3.PODCAST INFO:🌐 Website:https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts🟢 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1🟣 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226Curious to know more about Kiln?👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter00:00 Introduction to Blockchain and Crypto Journey05:50 Exploring mev-commit and Its Ecosystem11:41 Incentives for Validators in Primev19:10 Future Products and Features in Pre-Confirmations25:35 The Competitive Landscape of Block Building30:50 User Flow and Integration with Symbiotic38:58 The Future of Ethereum and Web3

In this episode, Edgar Roth, Protocol Specialist at Kiln, hosts Georgi Koreli, CEO & Co-Founder at Hinkal. Together, they discuss the evolution of privacy in blockchain technology, the challenges of compliance, and the innovative solutions Hinkal is developing to enhance user privacy. He emphasizes the importance of integrating privacy into the user experience and the future of DeFi privacy. The discussion also covers cross-chain privacy, user demographics, and the technical innovations that Hinkal is implementing to ensure secure and private transactions on public blockchains. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSL... 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Introduction to Hinkal and Georgi's Background 06:01 Hinkal's Approach to Privacy Solutions 11:49 Compliance and Privacy Protocols 18:10 Technical Innovations in Hinkal 24:04 Future Roadmap and Vision for Privacy 29:54 Closing Thoughts and How to Get Involved

In this conversation, Misha, Co-Founder of Symbiotic, and Edgar Roth, Protocol Specialist at Kiln, discuss the evolution of shared security in blockchain technology, the importance of modular shared security, and the innovative concept of collateral abstraction. Misha shares insights on the user journey within the Symbiotic protocol, emphasizing flexibility and the learning process from past successes and failures in the industry. Edgar Roth and Misha discuss the intricacies of blockchain security, focusing on the upcoming launch of Symbiotic's mainnet. They delve into the implications of lockup periods, the role of Symbiotic in the broader blockchain ecosystem, and the incentives for restakers post-launch. Misha outlines the roadmap for network integration and the team's focus on optimization after the mainnet launch. The discussion also touches on the evolution of stakers, the future of shared security platforms, and Misha's personal interests in AI and Web3 innovations. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSL... 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Introduction to Misha and Symbiotic 02:49 The Evolution of Shared Security 06:00 Learning from Successes and Failures 08:54 Understanding Modular Shared Security 11:48 The Concept of Collateral Abstraction 15:09 User Journey in Symbiotic 17:57 The Lifecycle of Staking in Symbiotic 29:27 Understanding Lockup Periods in Blockchain 30:38 The Role of Symbiotic in the Blockchain Ecosystem 33:02 Incentives for Restakers Post-Mainnet Launch 36:11 Network Launch Plans and Roadmap 38:35 Post-Mainnet Focus and Optimization Strategies 42:13 The Evolution of Stakers and Shared Security 44:00 The Future of Shared Security Platforms 47:32 Passions Beyond Work: AI and Web3 Innovations

In this conversation, Jean-Marie Mognetti, CEO and Co-Founder at CoinShares, and Laszlo Szabo, CEO and Co-Founder at Kiln, discuss the significant milestones in the DeFi space, including the impressive growth of digital asset investment products. He shares insights into his journey into crypto, the evolution of CoinShares, and the challenges faced in the distribution and regulation of crypto products. The conversation also delves into the importance of staking and the strategic decisions behind product offerings in the crypto market. In this conversation, Jean-Marie Mognetti discusses the strategic positioning of CoinShares in the competitive landscape of financial products, particularly in relation to giants like BlackRock. He emphasizes the importance of offering high-value products and the unique expertise CoinShares brings to the table. The discussion also covers the company's growth strategy in the US market, the evolving landscape of DeFi, and the challenges of KYC regulations. Jean-Marie shares insights on tokenization and the future of financial services, highlighting the need for agility and focus in a rapidly changing environment. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226 Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Celebrating Milestones in DeFi 02:54 The Journey into Crypto 05:50 Understanding ETPs and Their Market Position 09:02 The Evolution of Client Demographics 11:58 Challenges in Distribution and Regulation 15:03 Strategizing Product Offerings in Crypto 17:57 The Importance of Staking in Crypto Products 28:23 The Value of High-Quality Financial Products 29:52 Competing with Giants: CoinShares vs. BlackRock 32:14 Strategic Growth in the US Market 36:35 The Future of DeFi and Traditional Finance 43:35 Navigating KYC and Regulatory Challenges 48:18 Tokenization and the Role of CoinShares 53:12 Looking Ahead: Predictions for 2025

In this episode of the Bitcoin Staking Podcast, Willem Schroé from Botanix Labs discusses his background in mathematics and cryptography, his vision for Bitcoin as the ultimate form of money, and the development of the Spider Chain, a decentralized Layer 2 solution for Bitcoin. He emphasizes the need for a robust financial system built on Bitcoin, the risks of centralization through ETFs, and the importance of creating demand for Bitcoin on-chain. Willem also shares insights into the current developments and future roadmap of Botanix Labs, aiming to launch a censorship-resistant Layer 2 solution. In this conversation, Willem discusses the roadmap for decentralization, the importance of attracting builders to the Botanix layer, and the vision for Botanix as a second layer for Bitcoin. He emphasizes the need for technological advancements in Bitcoin, including soft forks and upcodes, and explores the potential of Bitcoin staking as a means to enhance decentralized security and reward generation. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226 Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter

In this conversation, Laszlo Szabo interviews Pierre Lavarague, Head of Business Development at Trust Wallet, discussing his journey in the crypto space, the evolution of DeFi, and the pivotal role of wallets in the ecosystem. They explore the impact of regulatory changes, the significance of stablecoins in emerging markets, and the innovative features of Trust Wallet, including ETH staking. The discussion highlights the importance of user experience and engagement in driving adoption in the rapidly evolving world of decentralized finance. In this conversation, Pierre Lavarague discusses the evolving landscape of DeFi, focusing on yield opportunities, user onboarding, and the importance of simplifying user experience through innovations like account abstraction. He emphasizes Trust Wallet's commitment to educating users about risks associated with yields and the company's remote organizational culture that fosters ownership and innovation. The discussion also touches on the future challenges and opportunities for Trust Wallet in a rapidly changing market. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226 Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Introduction to Trust Wallet and DeFi Vision 04:03 Pierre's Journey in Crypto and Early Experiences 05:54 Regulatory Changes and Their Impact on Startups 06:24 Transition to Marinade and Insights on Solana's DeFi Ecosystem 08:14 Joining Trust Wallet: New Challenges and Opportunities 09:50 The Role of Wallets in the DeFi Ecosystem 12:10 The Future of Wallets: Specialization vs. Generalization 14:21 Trust Wallet's Success and User Adoption 16:05 Mobile vs. Browser Wallets: User Engagement Insights 17:46 Geographical Distribution of Trust Wallet Users 19:15 The Importance of Stablecoins in Emerging Markets 21:04 The Potential for Euro Stablecoins 22:05 Introducing ETH Staking on Trust Wallet 24:34 User Engagement and the Future of ETH Staking 27:24 The Growing Market for Stablecoin Rewards 29:45 Exploring Yield Opportunities in DeFi 34:13 Onboarding the Next Billion Users 36:34 Simplifying User Experience with Account Abstraction 39:28 Trust Wallet's Organizational Culture and Structure 44:22 Future Challenges and Opportunities for Trust Wallet

In this episode of the Kiln BTC Staking Rendez-Vous, Edgar Roth and Brendon Sedo discuss the approach of CoreDAO in utilizing Bitcoin as economic security. They explore the background of Brendon Sedo, the vision behind CoreDAO, and the unique Satoshi Plus consensus mechanism that combines Bitcoin's security with Ethereum's composability. The discussion also covers the mechanics of Bitcoin staking, the benefits it offers to Bitcoin holders, and the utility of the Core token, including upcoming upgrades that will enhance staking rewards. In this conversation, Edgar Roth and Brendon Sedo delve into the evolving landscape of Bitcoin staking and the Core ecosystem. They discuss the ease of building on the Core platform, and the recent surge in Total Value Locked within the ecosystem. The introduction of Liquid Staking Bitcoin (LST Bitcoin) is highlighted as a significant development, providing new opportunities for yield generation. The discussion also touches on the cultural shifts within the Bitcoin community, the potential for modular scaling, and the future of Bitcoin staking models. Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website ⁠https://www.kiln.fi/⁠ 👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates ⁠https://t.me/Kiln_finance⁠ 👉 Register to our newsletter ⁠https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter⁠ ⁠00:00⁠ Introduction to CoreDAO and Bitcoin Staking ⁠05:03⁠ Brendon Sedo's Background and CoreDAO's Vision ⁠10:01⁠ Understanding Satoshi Plus Consensus ⁠15:08⁠ Bitcoin Staking Mechanics and Benefits ⁠19:52⁠ Core Token Utility and Upcoming Upgrades ⁠26:08⁠ Understanding Bitcoin Staking and Core Token Utility ⁠33:07⁠ Core's Role in Bitcoin's Modular Scaling ⁠39:25⁠ Exploring Other Bitcoin Staking Protocols ⁠45:34⁠ Engaging with the Core Community

In this conversation, Laszlo Szabo and Pierre Person, CEO and Co-founder of Usual, discuss the evolution of DeFi and the significant role of stablecoins within this ecosystem. Pierre shares his unique journey from a political career to entrepreneurship, emphasizing the importance of innovation in the stablecoin market. The discussion highlights Usual's approach to creating a stablecoin that aligns with the ethos of decentralization and value redistribution, contrasting it with existing models like Tether and Circle. The conversation also touches on the future of stablecoins, particularly in Europe, and the impact of regulation on the crypto landscape. In this conversation, Pierre Person discusses the future of European stablecoins, the regulatory landscape, and the challenges of building a successful crypto business. He emphasizes the importance of distribution strategies in both DeFi and CeFi, and shares insights on governance tokens and the need for a user-friendly approach to stablecoins. The discussion highlights the critical developments ahead for the crypto space and the potential for democratization of financial products. PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226 Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Join our Telegram channel for the latest updates https://t.me/Kiln_finance 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter 00:00 Introduction 01:55 The Rise of Stablecoins in DeFi 06:10 Pierre's Journey from Politics to Entrepreneurship 12:06 Usual's Unique Approach to Stablecoins 18:06 Decentralization and Governance in Crypto 24:08 The Future of Stablecoins and European Adoption 27:44 The Future of European Stablecoins 31:46 Regulatory Frameworks and Market Dynamics 35:01 Building a Successful Crypto Business 41:49 Distribution Strategies in DeFi and CeFi 48:35 Exciting Developments in Crypto and Usual

In this conversation, Edgar Roth interviews David Tse, Co-Founder of Babylon, discussing the innovative concept of Bitcoin staking and its implications for the blockchain ecosystem. David shares his journey into blockchain, the technical aspects of Bitcoin staking, the impact of the Taproot upgrade, and the role of slashing in ensuring security. The discussion also covers the future phases of Babylon, the integration of consumer chains, and the long-term vision for leveraging Bitcoin's security in a modular blockchain environment. 00:00 Introduction to Babylon and Bitcoin Staking 03:12 David Tse's Journey into Blockchain 05:35 The Concept of Bitcoin Staking 07:37 Technical Aspects of Bitcoin Staking 10:49 The Impact of Taproot on Bitcoin Staking 12:52 Understanding Slashing in Bitcoin Staking 15:43 Role of Finality Providers in Security 18:43 Economic Security and Consumer Zones 20:38 Liquid Staking Tokens and Their Impact 23:26 Future Phases of Babylon 28:48 Consumer Chains and Bitcoin Economic Security 31:55 Pitching Babylon to Existing Chains 35:13 Long-term Vision for Babylon 37:25 The Role of Opcats in Bitcoin's Future 41:10 Bitcoin's Future and Security Budget 42:55 Scaling Bitcoin through Staking 45:23 Closing Thoughts and Future Interests

In this podcast episode, Laszlo Szabo interviews Nick Van Eck, CEO and Co-Founder of Agora, discussing the rapid growth of the DeFi space, particularly the stablecoin market. Nick shares his journey into the crypto world, the unique value proposition of Agora's stablecoin, and the importance of geographical expansion in their strategy. The conversation also touches on the future of stablecoins and the necessity for native stablecoins in various blockchain ecosystems. In this conversation, Nick Van Eck discusses the evolving landscape of blockchain ecosystems, the differences between centralized and decentralized stablecoins, and the future of tokenized real-world assets. He emphasizes Agora's mission to provide a liquid global digital dollar and the importance of meeting customers' needs across various regions. The discussion also highlights the advancements in crypto infrastructure and the potential for decentralized finance to reshape consumer banking. Curious to know more about Kiln? 👉 Check our website https://www.kiln.fi/ 👉 Register to our newsletter https://www.kiln.fi/newsletter PODCAST INFO: 🌐 Website: https://www.kiln.fi/podcasts 🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0QSnhSLXxVDgBAUMnKnPz1 🟣 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kiln-rendez-vous-podcast/id1729247226

In this episode of the Kiln DeFi Rendez-Vous, Laszlo Szabo, CEO & Co-Founder at Kiln sits down with Pablo Veyrat, Co-Founder and Core Contributor at Angle Protocol. In this conversation, Pablo shares his background, the story behind Angle Protocol, and the unique value proposition of their decentralized stablecoins, EURA and USDA. Throughout the episode, Pablo discusses the importance of Angle's native savings solutions, which provide yield-bearing products to users, ensuring they benefit from the underlying value generated by their assets. He also explores the democratization of risk and rewards in the stablecoin landscape and how Angle Protocol is revolutionizing the DeFi space. The discussion further explores the challenges and opportunities in the Euro stablecoin market, as well as the potential impact of stablecoins and DeFi on traditional finance. Pablo offers his insights into the future of these emerging technologies and their role in shaping the world of finance.

In this episode, Sergej Kunz, Co-Founder of 1inch Network, shares his journey into the crypto space and the development of 1inch. He discusses his background as a software engineer and his early interest in cryptocurrencies. Sergej talks about his experience participating in hackathons and how he and his co-founder, Anton, built the first version of 1inch in New York City. He also shares the story behind the name '1inch' and how they pitched the idea to investors. Sergej explains the concept of aggregation in the DeFi space and how 1inch aims to provide a more efficient trading experience for users. He also discusses the development of the 1inch wallet and the importance of owning the user's experience. In this conversation, Sergej also discusses the geoblocking of the 1inch platform in the US and the decision-making process behind it. He also talks about the 1inch wallet and card, which allow users to easily spend cryptocurrencies in real life. Sergej explains the launch of Fusion, a compliant institutional environment for interacting with DeFi liquidity, and the concept of intent-based protocols. He shares his vision for the future of 1inch, including the use of payment channels and the development of a decentralized API network. Sergej emphasizes the importance of decentralization and building something that is used by a large number of people.

Jason Lau, Chief Innovation Officer at OKX, discusses the global expansion of OKX, the importance of Web3, non-custodial setups, and the evolution of the Bitcoin ecosystem. He also explores the future of stablecoins and the potential of Web3 gaming. The conversation delves into user experience, cross-chain interactions, and the excitement around new protocols and use cases in the crypto space.

Adam Levine, SVP of corporate development and partnerships at Fireblocks, joins us on this episode to share his crypto journey and insights on the evolution of the crypto market. Adam discusses how he started to recognize the technology's potential and the importance of Fireblocks in the institutional space. He emphasizes the significance of security and partnerships in the institutional crypto space and how Fireblocks is addressing these concerns. Adam also discusses the importance of a non-custodial wallet as a service and the use of stablecoins for payments. He shares his thoughts on the future of crypto, including the focus on cross-chain asset movement and interoperability in the industry. Tune in to this episode to learn more about Fireblocks and the institutional crypto space from Adam's expert perspective!

In this episode, Laszlo Szabo, CEO and Co-Founder of Kiln, and Paul Frambot, CEO and Co-Founder of Morpho Labs, discuss Paul's journey of building the Morpho protocol, a lending and borrowing protocol on Ethereum. Paul explains how Morpho started as an optimization layer for Aave and Compound, but eventually built its own independent protocol called Morpho Blue.Paul highlights the inefficiencies, lack of transparency, and lack of resilience in the traditional financial industry, and how blockchain technology can address these issues. He also discusses the importance of decentralized trust and the potential for social networks in the DeFi space.Paul envisions a future where different DeFi use cases, such as decentralized exchanges, stablecoins, lending, staking, and social networks, coexist and cooperate on the blockchain.

In episode seventeen of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, host Edgar Roth from Kiln interviews Miguel Prada from Nektar Network. They discuss the approach that Nektar Network is taking to change the restaking space. In this episode, we'll take a look at Nektar's restaking network that aims to optimize Ethereum's security model and utilize it to scale various applications.

In episode sixteen of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, host Edgar Roth from Kiln interviews Felix Xu from ARPA Network. They discuss the ARPA AVS and the history of ARPA Network, which began in 2018 with a focus on privacy-preserving data analysis using multi-party computation. The company later transitioned to crypto and blockchain use cases, now specializing in threshold signature schemes. ARPA Network also offers a tamper-proof, verifiable random number generator called ARPA Randcast.

In episode fifteen of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, host Edgar Roth from Kiln interviews Deli Gong from Automata to discuss the solutions that Automata is bringing to the rollup space. In this episode, we'll take a look at Automata's utilization of TEE coprocessors to help rollups create an Ethereum-aligned future that prioritizes auditability, openness, and teamwork.

In Episode fourtheen of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, host Edgar Roth from Kiln interviews Kendall Cole from Proximity Labs (Near ecosystem) to discuss the solutions they're bringing to the interoperability space. Discover how Chain Signatures, secured by EigenLayer and NEAR stakers, enable transactions on any blockchain from your NEAR account.

In Episode thirteen of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, hosts Edgar Roth from Kiln and Ben Rodriguez from Coinbase Cloud interview Ellie Davidson from Espresso to explore the rollup space. Discover how Espresso enables rollups to achieve credible neutrality, improved interoperability, and lasting alignment with Ethereum.

In Episode Twelve of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, hosts Edgar Roth and pwnh interview Boba and Rochard, Co-founders of Drosera Network, to explore Web3 security. Discover how Drosera tackles the challenges of incident detection and response, fostering a collaborative security environment within the DeFi space.

In episode eleven of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth, host from Kiln, interviews Wanli Zhou, Head of Ecosystem at Brevis Network, as they delve into this new smart ZK coprocessor. Brevis allows smart contracts to read historical on-chain data and build expressive logic using zero-knowledge computation, enabling data-driven features without compromising decentralization.

In episode ten of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth, host from Kiln, interviews Altan Tutar, Senior Technical BD at the Near Foundation, as they delve into the Near's data availability AVS. Near Data Availability AVS offers a Super Fast Finality Layer, eliminating long waits for cross-chain transactions. This translates to a smoother user experience and unlocks the increased scalability of rollups using Near DA.

In episode nine of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth, host from Kiln, interviews Matan Si, the founder and CEO of eoracle, as they delve into the innovative eoracle solution. Eoracle marks a significant departure from traditional oracle solutions. Eoracle adopts a transparent, on-chain framework utilizing a diverse network of Ethereum validators and a substantial stake capital pool. This approach creates an interoperable layer that aligns seamlessly with the security and programmability of native smart contracts.

In episode eight of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth, host from Kiln, interviews Jay Prakash, the founder and CEO of Silence Laboratories. This cybersecurity company specializes in merging cryptography, sensing, and design to enhance authentication experiences seamlessly. During the discussion, they explore the origins of Silence Laboratories and its mission to enable enterprises to incorporate decentralized Threshold Signature Schemes and key-share generation. Through decentralization and shielding user secret data from exposure, Silence Laboratories aids enterprises in providing heightened security for user custody and computations.

In the seventh episode of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth and pwnh from Kiln host Michael Chen, the Co-founder of Blockless. Blockless is an infrastructure platform for launching, integrating, and securing Network Neutral Applications (nnApps). They delve into the genesis of Blockless and the collaborative efforts of its co-founders. Michael sheds light on the wide array of applications possible on Blockless, ranging from AI-powered self-evolving games to community-powered edge inference networks.

In the sixth episode of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth from Kiln and Ben Rodriguez from Coinbase Cloud engage with Jon Kol, the Co-founder and CEO of Hyperlane, about the Hyperlane AVS. Hyperlane is the first permissionless interoperability layer, enabling anyone to connect any blockchain out-of-the-box. With Hyperlane, developers can build Interchain Applications—apps that abstract away the complexity of interchain interactions and serve users on any connected chain.

In the fifth episode of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth engages with Himanshu Tyagi, Co-founder, and CTO of Witness Chain. The conversation delves into Tyagi's background and the factors that led him to explore optimistic rollups. Witness Chain specializes in providing watchtowers for rollups, DePIN, and AI Coprocessors. These programmable watchtowers enhance transaction validation on rollups by monitoring and addressing faulty transactions. The episode discusses key aspects such as an overview of Witness Chain, the significance of watchtowers in rollups, pricing and incentives for their watchtower service, insights into the future of Witness Chain and DePIN chains, and the potential for cross-chain applications.

In this fourth episode of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth and pwnh from Kiln engage with Ismael Hishon-Rezaizadeh, Founder and CEO, Lagrange Labs , exploring his background and what led him to explore zero-knowledge state proofs for optimistic rollups.Ismael highlights Lagrange Labs' focus on enhancing blockchain capabilities through advanced computing paradigms, allowing for more complex and efficient on-chain activities. He shares insights into the differences between optimistic and ZK rollups, stressing the importance of both in the blockchain ecosystem for accommodating a wide range of applications with varying requirements.

In this third episode of the Kiln Rendez-Vous podcast, Edgar Roth and Sebastien Rannou from Kiln engage with Teddy Knox, Senior Researcher at EigenLabs, exploring his background and what led him to build a data availability layer. EigenDA, EigenLayer’s data availability solution, is emerging as a leading AVS, setting standards with its inaugural launch. In this episode, you'll gain an overview of EigenDA, expected to drastically reduce costs for rollup data posting, aiming to offer a more cost-effective solution than alternatives like Celestia.

In their conversation, Edgar Roth, Protocol Specialist at Kiln interviews Amrit Kuma, COO at AltLayer. Amrit shares his journey into the field, starting first with computer science. They explore AltLayer's Rollup as a Service (RaaS) platform and its AVS offerings, focusing on decentralized sequencing, verification, and faster finality. Tune in to learn more about AltLayer value proposition and future of AVSs!

A Conversation with Sreeram from EigenLayer and Laszlo from Kiln Kiln CEO Laszlo Szabo interviews EigenLayer CEO Sreeram Kannan about restaking and AVSes. Restaking allows leveraging an existing stake to support additional services on EigenLayer, referred to as Actively Validated Services (AVS). By opting for restaking, participants have the opportunity to accumulate extra rewards in addition to their current ones. 2:18 The importance of collaboration in crypto 8:18 What's an AVS? 24:47 EigenDA and launching an AVS 43:42 The future of the EigenLayer ecosystem 50:04 Difference between Bitcoin and Ethereum staking Podcast Info Website: ⁠https://www.kiln.fi/rendez-vous-avs Restake your liquid staking token until Feb 9: Website: ⁠⁠https://stake.kiln.fi/eigenlayer/restake