Making Our Way

Episode 95 - Jefferson’s WallOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: JimJim explores some of the origins of Thomas Jefferson's famed "Wall of Separation," back to that notorious marriage of church and state by Henry VIII.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 94 - Procession to CovenantOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim; Guests: Bill & Linda HimesWe conclude our time with Bill & Linda Himes with discussions about Bill’s composition process, his conducting, and how Bill & Linda got together.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 93 - Bill Himes - O.F. et ElOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim; Guests: Bill & Linda HimesOur conversation with Bill & Linda Himes continues, this time focusing on Bill’s life from El Heugh to Order of the Founder. Musicians of every caliber will find inspiration in his words and wisdom; sports fans, not so much.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 92 - CovenantOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim; Guests: Bill & Linda HimesWe talk with lifelong friends, and follow Linda’s growth from High School sophomore student of Dave McMahon (Rob’s father), to youth church leader, to lay Bible study teacher and trainer.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 91 - Between the LinesOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: JimJim looks at the books of Luke and Acts. Who wrote them? When were they written? And does knowing that even matter.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 90 - “Hell No!”Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: RobRob discusses the orthodox doctrine of hell, and explores the scriptural basis for what existence after death might be.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 89 - $200 Billion?Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts.: Jan, Rob, Dee, & JimJan brings a question, some answers, and receipts. “What are some other ways that we as a nation could use the $200 billion proposed Pentagon expenditure on the war on Iran?” What other benefits might that money bring to the country?Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 88 - The Good SamaritanOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim discusses the parable of the Good Samaritan, why so many get it wrong, and why so many who say we get it wrong get it wrong. It’s really quite easy, which could be the problem.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 87 - Visions of RaptureOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim discusses the Rapture, its scriptural foundation, John Nelson Darby, the Scofield Reference Bible, Paul & the Thessalonians, what Paul really meant, Apocalypse as genre, The Late Great Planet Earth, Left Behind, and why the Rapture shouldn’t even get off the ground.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 86 - Matthew and The ElephantOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.The 4 gospels. The blind men and the elephant. The Gospel of Matthew. Jesus and Moses. Jesus and History. Gematria. The women in Jesus’ genealogy. Jesus and the prophets.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 85 - The Sin of Empathy?Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim confronts the recent backlash against empathy in the current religious-political-social conversation. Captain Kirk and Stephen King drop in for a visit.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 84 - Stop. Look. Listen.Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.Continuing our quest for that “carousel-worthy” vacation photo, the crew talks about their successes and the ones that got away. What makes one photo a scene while another tells a story? Photos as witness. With stops at The Art Institute of Chicago, and the Dalí Museum in St. Petersburg.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 83 - Carousel-worthyOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.The goal of our vacation photographs? To be carousel-worthy; not to mention the gold standard: “America the Beautiful”-worthy. How our fathers approached family photography, how we choose what to shoot, the #1 image of vacation photographers in film days. Ansel Adams & Clyde Butcher, and the patience required to find a carousel-worthy photo.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 82 - On the Beautiful Blue DanubeOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim. Guests: Lillian and LarryStrauss’s “An der schönen blauen Donau,” perhaps the world’s most famous waltz, is beautiful music, but misses on two points. Rob says it’s not really blue, and in Strauss’s time the river did not flow through Strauss’s Vienna as it does today. Lillian, Larry, Jan, & Rob offer no complaints, and say their trip was more about the company they kept, and of course the food. Join them on their Romantic Danube Viking River Cruise from Regensburg through Passau, Krems, Vienna, and Budapest.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 81 - A PauseOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: JimThe crew places a pause in their series on Central Europe in light of events in Minneapolis. Jim offers a few thoughts.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 80 - A Tale of Two NurembergsOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim. Guests: Lillian and LarryLillian, Larry, Jan, & Rob recall last year’s initial visit to Nuremberg and compare it with this year’s return. Both visits were through Viking River Cruises. One visit was by land (2025), one by sea (2024); well, by river. Close. 2024 was a brief visit, and was less than satisfactory. 2025 provided enough time to discover Nuremberg is much more than our travelers had remembered.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 79 - Prague, by the numbersOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim. Guests: Lillian and LarryPrague, the City of 100 Spires, and the starting point for Lillian, Larry, Jan, & Rob’s 2nd Viking River Cruise through Central Europe. Our hosts and guests recount their most significant memories of their trip, with advice on how to prioritize this vast and rich city.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 78 - “…The Same River Twice”Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim. Guests: Lillian and Larry HarrisonAs is said, “No one steps in the same river twice.” Jan, Rob, Lillian, and Larry take another Viking Cruise vacation, touring Prague, Nuremberg, and then cruising down the beautiful blue Danube from Regensburg to Budapest. In this episode, they discuss the logistics involved in such a trip, and the benefits of traveling with Viking River Cruises - again.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 77 - E is for EtiquetteOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim explores some theories about the actual birth date of Jesus, and how December 25th was chosen.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 76 - A Belated Birthday?Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim explores some theories about the actual birth date of Jesus, and how December 25th was chosen.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 75 - X Marks the SpatOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim traces the history of the word “Xmas,” and pushes against the Christmas tradition of being offended by everything.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 74 - More TraditionsOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee & Jim.The crew discuss more of their seasonal traditions, including Canadian Thanksgiving, standing kettles for The Salvation Army, The Marks Family Thanksgiving, Advent, and Rob’s Village.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 73 - 3 Rules for the HolidaysOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim sets out 3 Rules for the holidays: Respect; focus; no distractions.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 72 - In ContextOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Dee & Jim.Dee & Jim discuss 3 biblical passages that a very young Jim used to misunderstand because they were out of context. One used the wrong context, a second ignored the author’s context, and a third ignored cultural context.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 71 - The B-I-B-L-EOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.Having been raised in a Protestant evangelical church, what role does the Bible currently play in our lives? Is it inspired? Infallible? Inerrant? Not surprisingly, our regard of scripture is ever in transition.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 70 - New Orleans PostcardsOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.To celebrate their anniversary, Dee & Jim traveled to New Orleans and recording a few audio postcards from around the French Quarter.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 69 - In MemoriamOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.We remember Ethel Mae (Robb) Cheyne, Jan & Jim’s mom, on the 30th anniversary of her passing. These few craps are not enough. Volumes could be written.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 68 - At the MoviesOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.Making Our Way goes to the movies to review 7 films: The Naked Gun (2025), Superman (2025), A Charlie Brown Christmas, Sharknado, The Thursday Murder Club, The Outfit, and War of the Worlds (2025).Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 67 - Alaska: 3 Ways from Sandy Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcripts Hosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim. Guests: Sandy & Russ. All things Alaska, and how to get there, including Fat Bear Week, the Alcan Highway, Denali, cruises, reindeer, dog sleds, & humpback whales. Plus, halibut, just because. Links: Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.com More information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here:  https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 66 - The Rest of the StoryOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: Jim.Jim meets power pitcher and Detroit Tiger legend Frank Lary -perhaps.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 65 - AutographsOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.“Have you ever asked for an autograph?” asks Stephen Colbert’s “Colbert Questionnaire.” We supply a few answers, plus name our favorite Robert Redford films.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 64 - Keep Calm & Carry-onsOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.Travel Tips, including packing, AirTags, Passports, Global Entry, TSA PreCheck®, USB at airports, RESERVE, CLEAR Plus, and a few things from Rick Steves.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 63 - All Lives?Official transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.We continue our conversation about race with focus on New Orleans, red lining, Black Lives Matter, Trayvon Martin, and how engaging people does not always bring the results one might hope for.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Hosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & Jim.A conversation about race, and how 3 kids from the suburbs of Detroit, and 1 from Newfoundland, Canada, became aware of racial tensions, and how we came to the positions on the question we hold today, with help from Francis S. Collins. Plus, a nod to television, Ed Sullivan, and Star Trek.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 61 - Bentham’s SelfieOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsJim takes on philosophy’s “Trolley Problem,” discusses Jeremy Bentham and Immanuel Kant, Bentham’s utilitarianism and Kant’s categorical imperative, and learns of Bentham’s rather unique idea of how he might be useful even after death.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 60 - All CreaturesOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsWe lay the groundwork for a discussion of the ethical treatment of animals, including their use in the food chain, in entertainment, in research, in product testing, in zoos and wildlife parks, and in hunting, including our own experiences and changing points of view as we have been Making Our Way.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 59 - CompanionsOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsJan & Rob, Dee & Jim talk about companion animals they have known, some of whom do well in the home, others not so much.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 58 - Imago DeiOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsJim wishes a happy birthday to the universe - 7002 years old on Sunday, April 27th, 2025. He also takes a look at Johannes Kepler, the Parthenon, the Imago Dei (image of God) from Genesis 1, and sees an unexpected connection between “Dei” and “DEI.”Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 57 - National ParksOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsWe conclude our discussion of our National Parks experiences; the economic argument for National Parks; Niagara Falls: a cautionary tale; Nature as witness to Creation; Ranger talks; Rob’s career goal; the Canadian Rockies; and dogs in the National Parks.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 56 - Dad’s CameraOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsA conversation about our National Parks, Dad’s Zeiss Ikon camera, a bit of Richard Dawkins, and cash flying out of a Cadillac on a mountain.Links:Making Our Way is hosted through buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.comMore information about Deanna & Jim Cheyne is here: https://www.cheynemusic.comThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 55 - Political Climate Change - In conversation with Maria MathiesonOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsOur conversation with Maria Mathieson concludes with the repercussions of working in DEI efforts in the current political climate, Maria’s many travel and home mishaps, and her fondness for the American Tacky artistic movement.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 54 - A Level Playing Field - In conversation with Maria MathiesonOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsMaria Mathieson, long time friend, Executive Director of Peabody Preparatory in Baltimore, and board member of Equity Arc, discusses the role of diversity, equity, and inclusion in providing artistic development to disadvantaged young people. She discusses collaborating with retired military musicians (as highlighted in a recent CBS “60 Minutes” segment), and other efforts in leveling the playing field for the youth of Baltimore and beyond.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 53 - Jean, Harvey, & JadeOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsRob presents 3 people who have had a significant influence on him as he has been Making His Way: Jean Hawson, Harvey Allen Marks, & Jade Thomas Moore.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 52 - Carl, Alexander, David, & RobertOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsJim presents 4 people who have had a significant influence on him as he has been Making His Way: Carl Sagan, Alexander Ringer, David Liptak, & Robert BridgesThanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 51 - Roma, Martin, & BarbraOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsDee presents 3 people who have had a significant influence on her as she has been Making Her Way: Roma Hayward, Dr. Martin Luther King, and Barbra Streisand.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 50 - Dave, Bev, & JaneOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsJan presents 3 people who have had a significant influence on her as she has been Making Her Way: David McMahon, Bev Minn, and Dr. Jane Goodall.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 49 - JonahOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHost: JimJim explores the book of Jonah from a non-traditional point of view.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 48 - Ethos, Logos, PathosOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & JimHeresthetics. Plus, shouting across an 8-lane highway, a bit of Jordan Klepper. The structure of effective rhetoric: ethos, logos, pathos, and kairos. A speech from British Prime Minister Hugh Grant. A speech from Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Hosts: Jan, Rob, Dee, & JimSocial media getting a bit contentious? With the national dialogue approaching DEFCON 2, we take a look at how to negotiate contentious conversations without losing principles and without losing face.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.

Episode 46 - An Epic Adventure - IIIOfficial transcript: https://www.cheynemusic.com/transcriptsHosts: Jan, Rob, & Jim. Guests: Lillian & Larry HarrisonJan, Rob, Lillian, & Larry complete their journey aboard Viking’s Grand European Tour with some of the lighter moments in Amsterdam (what Red Light district?), Cologne (Kölsch Beer), and Vienna (an unexected bather in Stadt Park). Plus, they offer their perspectives on their goals in travel.Thanks for listening. Share with your friends. Find this and more at cheynemusic.com/podcast.