Mama's Gonna Make It

Last time we had Jen Hamilton on, we talked all things nursing, advocacy, and her book Birth Vibes. This time? We’re just… hanging out. And honestly, it might be our favorite kind of episode. Jen is back in the studio and bringing her full, beautifully chaotic, joy-filled life with her. From raising indoor chickens (yes, diapers included) to navigating social media with millions of followers, to building a nonprofit that’s helping moms across the country—this conversation is equal parts hilarious, heartfelt, and deeply grounding. We talk about: What it actually looks like to “have it all” (hint: it’s messy and wonderful) Why Jen refuses to fit into a single “niche” online—and why you don’t have to either The behind-the-scenes of her social media presence (and how she keeps it sustainable) Parenting in the teenage years + navigating intrusive thoughts  Dream vacations (cruise people vs. not cruise people 👀) Using your platform for good—even when it makes people uncomfortable Letting people misunderstand you and calling that freedom We also dive into Jen’s nonprofit, Hot Mess Express, and how one Facebook post turned into a nationwide movement helping overwhelmed moms reset their homes—and their nervous systems—with zero judgment and lots of love. And because we like to keep it real around here, we wrap with some honest confessions about the not-so-polished parts of life (forgotten Valentines, messy houses, and struggling to shower… you know, the usual). This episode feels like sitting on the couch with friends—laughing, learning, and reminding each other that we’re all just doing the best we can. Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

Sometimes the most powerful preparation isn’t for the birth you want—it’s for the one you might actually have.  This week, we host labor & delivery nurse, advocate, and author Jen Hamilton to talk about her debut book Birth Vibes—and wow…we were not emotionally prepared (in the best way). Birth Vibes fills the void between books that explain pregnancy and parenting books. That between space? Actually bringing  your baby into the world? THIS IS THE BOOK to help you prepare for the decisions you may need to make in those important, and sometimes scary, moments.   As a nurse, Jen has spent over a decade in ER and obstetrics, supporting families through some of the most vulnerable, intense, and life-changing moments imaginable. In this conversation, she shares how her concept of “birth vibes”—a blend of your values, preferences, and vision—can help you advocate for yourself and feel grounded, even when things don’t go according to plan. We talk about: Why informed consent is more than just a signature—it’s true understanding How nurses (and patients) can balance information without overwhelm The importance of connection before checklists in medical spaces What it actually looks like to advocate for patients—even when it’s uncomfortable The reality of systemic racism in maternal healthcare and why it must be addressed Preparing not just for your ideal birth—but for the unexpected, too Jen also shares behind-the-scenes stories from writing her book (including what didn’t make it in), how her own birth experience shaped her work, and why honoring all birth stories—including loss—was non-negotiable. And we have to say…this book unlocked something for us. Whether you’re currently pregnant, supporting someone who is, or still processing a past birth experience—this conversation (and Jen’s work) offers language, clarity, and a whole lot of healing. This episode is for: Expectant parents Birth partners and support people Anyone who has ever had a complicated or confusing birth experience Healthcare providers who want to lead with more compassion and connection Anyone who loves Jen Hamilton’s humor and voice  Because at the end of the day, this isn’t just about birth—it’s about being seen, heard, and respected in your most vulnerable moments. Links:Purchase Birth VibesJen Hamilton WebsiteJen Insta, TikTok, Youtube Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

Before we even get to today’s topic, Anne & Sarabeth find themselves on a meaningful side quest—talking about how we support our kids’ safety when it comes to consent and bodily autonomy. Whew…nothing like easing in with a “light” topic. From there, we explore the idea of peace (not peas 😉), inspired by a recent Peace Walk—including one we did with our own kiddos on Martin Luther King Jr. Day. And because this is us, we don’t stay in one lane for long—touching on everything from birth plans to personal finance to navigating truth in an age of AI and digital fakes. It’s a little winding, a lot real, and exactly the kind of conversation we hope makes you feel less alone. A few takeaways on peace:• Some forms of peace are a privilege.• It’s okay to take a break—for your own mental peace—when you can.• Fight for something, not just against something.• Peace is powerful—and it requires strength.• And sometimes…silence can be bought with cosmic brownies 🤣 Links:  Don’t hug Doug (He Doesn’t Like It) The Breaking News Mama’s Gonna Make It Episode 5: Dear Theo  Mama’s Gonna Make It Episode 43:Resilient Parents for Thriving Kids with Deb Armstrong Branch Walk for Peace Crayola Colors of the World Skin Tone Crayons  Work with The Podfather Tim Beeman! Book now A couple clarifications:  • Mamdani is the Mayor of New York City. Not Mondavi… the winery 😅Sometimes you just have to laugh at yourself.  • We mention interviewing Isabel Sanchez of MES Financial Coaching- that finance themed episode will be released later in season along with our Creativity Episode! 🤩 Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

Sometimes the hardest part of anything is getting started. Ashley Honbarrier eliminates that barrier to growing your own food with her nonprofit Happy Roots—providing therapeutic horticulture to communities of all ages, from 2 to 102 and beyond. In this episode, we talk about what happens when access meets intention… and how something as simple as a garden box can shift not just what we eat, but how we feel. Ashley shares ​about Earth Day Jam and how it led to the creation of Happy Roots—a nonprofit now serving schools, families, and communities through hands-on, nature-based education. We get into: how Happy Roots began and why removing barriers matters “dirt therapy” and the real mental health benefits of getting outside the power of school gardens (and why kids will try what they grow) simple, approachable ways to start gardening—especially if you feel overwhelmed what it looks like to garden with kids, communities, and across generations how growing something can build patience, confidence, and connection This conversation is a reminder that you don’t have to do it perfectly. You don’t need all the answers. And you definitely don’t need a green thumb. You just have to start.About Ashley: Ashley Honbarrier is the Founder and Executive Director of Happy Roots, a North Carolina–based nonprofit focused on school gardens, sustainable agriculture, and therapeutic horticulture. She also serves on the North Carolina School Garden Network Advisory Board and is the founder of Earth Day Jam. For nearly a decade, she has helped communities connect to their food, support mental health, and build stronger local systems through hands-on education and gardening access. ​Links: Happy Roots: https://www.happyrootsnc.org/ Earth Day Jam: https://earthdayjamnc.com/ ​Samantha Fox @mothersfinesturbanfarm ​Link to garden kit form Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

If you’ve ever felt your chest tighten when your kid is upset… or like you have to fix it right now… or like you’re somehow getting it wrong if it all feels really hard—this episode is for you. We sat down with pediatric nurse and early years mental health specialist Deb Armstrong-Branch (aka HappyChild2HappyParent). This convo genuinely felt like a deep exhale. We talk about anxiety, control, bedtime battles, guilt, parental confidence, and (new to us but we LOVE it) confident disinterest.  We can all probably relate to that very real moment when you realize: you actually can’t protect your kids from everything. And maybe you’re not supposed to. About Our Guest:Debs is a specialist pediatric nurse with over 30 years of experience working with children and families—many of whom have neurodiverse needs. She’s also a mom of three, bringing both professional insight and lived experience to the table. What We Cover: Why parenting is just a different kind of hard at every stage The power of “confident disinterest” Letting kids feel hard things (without rescuing) Regulating yourself before your child Understanding temperament vs. personality Why taking care of yourself actually matters for your kids Takeaways: You don’t need to fix every feeling Your calm matters more than your control Kids need space to build resilience You’re doing the best you can with what you have Resources + Links: Deb’s Instagram: @happychild2happyparent_ Website: happychild2happyparent.com Her program: The Calm Academy Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

What a gift to be launching Season 3 of Mama’s Gonna Make It! In this episode, Sarabeth and Anne catch up and share life updates with listeners, resolve a few open cliffhangers from past episodes, and reflect on the new frontier of our parenting skills’ growing edges. As soon as we think we know what we’re doing, those kiddos go and level up! Tim, Anne, and Sarabeth also take some time to reflect on our most memorable episodes so far (not favorites—that’s impossible) and what made them special. We have a lot in the works for Season Three, and we’re excited to be here with you. Be sure to find us on social media for updates and to chime in—we’d love to hear what you think! Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

Show notes are something a little different today. Almost as I write, both Sarabeth and Anne are decorating their Christmas trees with their families, holiday songs playing, and delicious smells wafting from their respective kitchens. Despite this picturesque scene, played out over both homes on a foggy Sunday morning, holiday magic doesn’t just “happen” — it doesn’t just “magic” itself. This morning shows up for us today because a) our privileges. We are so very aware of the many privileges we walk through the world benefiting from, and how many people cannot and will not have a cozy Sunday morning like this. And b) we prioritized it. We’re not listening to our episode to prepare genuine show notes today (if we promised some links, I’m sure we’ll catch it on Monday and link in socials). The kitchen is a mess. The laundry isn’t done. Other parts of the house are a disaster. There may or may not still be a poorly patched, limb-sized hole in one bedroom ceiling and some years-old splatter paint courtesy of a smoothie-curious toddler (now FOUR) across another ceiling, just above those cozy little families making this morning a magical one. It’s never going to be perfect. For some, reaching for magical moments is far easier than for others. As we wrap Season 2 — in the midst of the chaotic, stressful, magical, grief-inducing steam train of time between Thanksgiving and Christmas — let’s lean in on a recurring theme we dove into this season: release the shame. Release the moral hierarchy. Release the perfect pictures we hold in our minds, the old versions of ourselves and those we love, and lean into being present. Even in our grief. Even in the overstimulated chaos. Even as we knowingly dive into a much-needed moment of escapism on our phones, books, or TV screens. Give yourself grace — and know that we are giving it too. Season 3 coming in 2026. Until then, know that these mamas are doing their best to soak up whatever magical moments we can between the mess, the tears, and the stark realities that our world demands we acknowledge. Love to you all this holiday season — and grace and care to you in each and every life season. Love, Anne & SarabethThe Mamas Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

Britney Dent (@theteenchoicecoach) is back in the studio for a cozy friend chat with Anne, Sarabeth, and Producer Tim to talk all things holidays—the magic and the stress. From navigating blended families to finding the balance between thoughtful and practical gifts, we swap stories about favorite traditions, memorable moments, and what it looks like to craft holidays that feel joyful on your own terms. In the end, we all agree: when we release expectations, care for ourselves, and focus on the people we love, the holidays become exactly what they’re meant to be. Find Britney on socials Britney’s website Jolabokaflod How to pronounce Skout’s Honor (SB used the laundry booster) The Thrifty Gifter  Trader Joe’s Taste Test of Caramels Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

This week we’re thankful to welcome the incomparable Britney Dent to the studio! Britney is a powerhouse of wisdom, compassion, and community leadership — and honestly, we could’ve talked with her for hours. Britney holds a B.A. from UNC Greensboro and is a certified Life Coach for parents and teens. She’s a Hands On Northwest & Wake Forest Women’s Emerging Leaders graduate, a City of Winston-Salem University alum, and a United Way Women United Transformational Leader. With a decade of experience in the public school system, years in the nonprofit sector, and features across multiple media outlets, Britney is a voice you want in your corner. She currently serves on the board of Triad Restorative Justice and as Program Director at LEAD Girls of NC, volunteers with organizations across the community, and somehow still finds time to enjoy reading, watching Jeopardy, and beating her family at board games. In this conversation, we dive into: ✨ Her experience as a mom — especially parenting teenagers (blink and we’ll be there, too)✨ Grounded, practical advice for navigating the teen years with connection and grace✨ Her “260 Movement” and how it encourages intentionality in spending time with our kids✨ Digital safety and how to equip—not scare— our children✨ Her published book and the many impactful paths her career has taken (this woman stays busy)✨ And so much more wisdom we’re still unpacking Britney brings truth, directness, and a refreshing sense of empowerment to every topic she touches. Whether you’re parenting teens, working with young people, or simply trying to be a more present adult in a child’s life, this episode is a gift. 🎧 Tune in for an episode full of heart, honesty, and hope — and walk away feeling like you can absolutely do this. Links:Parenting Redefined: Finding the Confidence to Parent Your Teen Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

This week we’re joined by our friend Beth Recchio for a funny and honest conversation about growing edges—those places where we’re choosing to stretch, change, and show up differently. Beth opens up about her fear of success, and we dive into what it means to grow even when it feels uncomfortable. Anne and SB share stories about self-advocacy in healthcare, while Tim vulnerably reflects on his medical history, current challenges, and the new habits he’s building to support his own health.  Of course, it wouldn’t be a Mama’s Gonna Make It episode without laughter, food talk, and a few tangents. Listen in and let us know about your growing edges!  Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

In this episode, we’re joined by our friend and social media powerhouse Beth Recchio — the bold, boho, and beautifully unfiltered force behind @bethsboholife. Beth brings her full, multifaceted self to every space she enters, whether it’s gardening, home improvement, comedy, storytelling, or fashion. She’s redefining what connection and authenticity look like online (and off). We talk about the practice of becoming yourself — of letting go of the people-pleasing, acknowledging the versions of ourselves that got us here, and rejecting the call to fit neatly into a box. Beth shares that a turning point in her journey toward self-care–centered living pivoted on her motherhood, and how giving herself permission to grow has shaped her life, her art, and her family. She’s so damn proud of her son @pickinnicklawrence, herself, her hubs @matteorecchio, and her little BooperButt – and quite frankly, we are too! Expect laughter, honesty, and a few spicy words (yes, we saved our E for Beth!) as we dive into what it really means to evolve, show up fully, and bring all of who you are to the table — online, on stage, and in your own skin. Tune in for a conversation about growth, creativity, and giving yourself permission to be the ever-changing, ever-beautiful work in progress that you already are. Beth’s Boho Life Christmas Mantle tutorial (discussed in episode)  Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

In this episode, we’re answering listener questions (pause for dramatic effect: WE HAVE LISTENERS!? 😭🙌 And you have QUESTIONS!?) Cue the happy dance. 💃🕺 Keep ’em coming, friends — we love hearing from you! Here’s what we dive into: Q1: How do you even start therapy? Anne consults Mama D for advice, and we share some friend wisdom from a Lazy Genius thread. Spoiler: You don’t have to have it all figured out before you start. Q2: What if your partner doesn’t want to join? Long story short — go anyway! But listen in for the full context and how to navigate that conversation with compassion and confidence. Q3: Are we all a little hypervigilant about spotting diagnosable issues in our kiddos? We get it. None of us want to miss something that might make life harder for our kids. The takeaway? Lead with love. It’s not our job to diagnose — it’s our job to love the kid in front of us and help them navigate their world the best we can. We’ll all miss something, somewhere, sometime… and that’s okay, mama. This one’s full of heart, real talk, and a few deep breaths of solidarity. Links:Parenting Framework SB Mentions: Govern, Garden, Guide American Association for Marriage and Family TherapyAmerican Psychological Association (Find a Therapist tool) Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

This week we’re joined by filmmaker Nicola Rose (@nicolarosedirects), writer and director of the new feature film Magnetosphere (@magnetospheremovie). Nicola shares the inspiration behind the film, which follows 13-year-old Maggie as she navigates first love, moving to a new town, and living with synesthesia—a condition that makes her see sounds, hear colors, and more. We talk about how Magnetosphere came to life, including the importance of representation in film, the role of a neurodiverse group of consultants and cast members, and Nicola’s own perspective as a neurodivergent creator. Nicola also dives into the film’s themes, including the transformative power of caring relationships and self-acceptance. From a toilet in the kitchen to a chaos-inciting exterminator turned Pirate King, Nicola let us in on some surprising real-life inspirations behind her film’s more humorous elements. Beyond the story itself, we spend time on the world of indie filmmaking: why low-budget films matter, the challenges and joys of bringing them to the screen, and where audiences can find and support them. Check out the Magnetosphere and Nicola’s first feature film Goodbye, Petrushka, and let us know what you think!  Links:Where to Watch Magnetosphere Now: Prime Video, Apple TV Where to Watch Independent Films: Tubi, Youtube, Omoleto(short films), GooglePlay, Prime Video, Apple TV, your local library resources (including Hoopla!),  Noteworthy Indie Film Fests: River Run (Winston-Salem), CineQuest, Dances with Fims Film Festival Incomplete list of US Distributors of Independent Films: Freestyle Digital Media, Buffalo 8, Gravitas Ventures, Level 33 Entertainment Learn about and Connect with Director Nicola Rose: Website: Nicola Rose Directs Instagram: @nicolarosedirects Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome local legend Kim Shufran to talk about neurotypes, the medical vs. social models of disability (and how each shifts our language, expectations, and even our parenting), and so much more. Kim designed and founded iCan House in 2008 as a place of belonging, acceptance, positivity, learning, and fun. Inspired by the unmet needs of her incredible daughter, Erica, and her passion for applying a positive lens, Kim created a community that reframes how we think about and support diverse neurotypes. With a background that includes 17 years in clinical nursing and 12 years in organizational development, Kim shaped iCan House into a unique resource that teaches social skills through clubs, provides educational opportunities, serves as a resource hub, and builds a strong support network for neurodivergent individuals and their families. Whether she’s out and about with her music-loving white cockatoo, Sam, cheering on her daughter, or continuing to guide iCan House as it grows to meet our community needs, Kim radiates wisdom and positive thinking. Don’t miss this timely episode where we deepen our understanding of neurodiversity, explore universal parenting skills, and push back against harmful narratives that undervalue or objectify difference. Links:  Articles Kim brought to the studio: Disability Scoop and The Autism Wars: Legacy of the Tragedy Narrative More about the iCan House A documentary and play about Kim’s daughter and son-in-law, Erica & Ian: Bird’s Eye ViewA visual tool for changing the Disability Narrative: Medical Model VS Social Model Recorded in the Such-N-Such Media Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

In this episode, we do a little time traveling—recorded across two sessions, but woven together with one theme: Don’t Be Less. Anne and Sarabeth unpack the story behind this mantra and what it has come to mean in their friendship. With their signature mix of humor and honesty, they explore what it looks like to show up as your whole, quirky, “too-much” self—and why that shift can be so profound, especially for those of us with diverse neurotypes. It’s a reminder to stop dimming your light. Instead, find the people and spaces that invite you to show up authentically, unmask, and feel fully accepted and loved. 💛 Don’t be less. Be you. Interested in ordering a “Don’t Be Less” t-shirt or sticker? Head on over to our Linktree to preorder. Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

We could hardly believe it when KC Davis said yes to joining us on Mama’s Gonna Make It—because not only is she a licensed therapist, bestselling author, and wildly popular content creator, but she’s also someone we talk about a lot. KC’s compassionate, practical approach to self-care has struck a chord with millions, and her book How to Keep House While Drowning has become a lifeline for anyone moving through tough seasons of life. Her newest book, Who Deserves Your Love, expands that wisdom into the realm of relationships. In this conversation, KC brings her trademark mix of honesty and humor as we dig into: The origins of Struggle Care and its six pillars (we love a framework!) What moral neutrality is any why it matters—for us and our kids The importance of access (therapy, tools, content and more) that meet people where they are Recognizing our own patterns and extending grace, not shame Balancing accountability and healthy boundaries when it comes to our emotions and the emotions of others This one is equal parts validating and thought-provoking, with plenty of laughter along the way (and yes, we did ask KC about her most bizarre “struggle care” method). Whether you’re already a fan or just meeting KC Davis for the first time, you’ll leave this episode with a fresh perspective on what it means to care for yourself and those you love—without shame. More about KC Davis: KC’s compassionate and practical approach to self-care for those dealing with mental health, physical illness, and hard seasons of life has drawn over a million followers on social media in less than a year. Her book, “How to Keep House While Drowning” has sold over 350,000 copies and is currently an Amazon bestseller. Her new book, “Who Deserves Your Love,” brings her revolutionary perspective-shifting philosophy to the world of relationship struggles. KC Davis began her therapy journey at 16 when she entered treatment for drug addiction and mental health issues. After getting sober, she became a speaker and advocate for mental health and recovery. Professionally, KC has worked most of her career in the field of addiction in roles such a therapist, consultant, and executive director. She lives in Houston with her husband and two daughters.  Learn more about the radical philosophy of Struggle Care that’s changing lives here. Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

What’s better than book club? A book club podcast episode with our besties and Liz Orr—author of The Unfiltered Enneagram and the voice behind @rudeassenneagram! Roll call includes Liz, Sarabeth, Anne, and Tim plus our friends Whitney Hsu, April Tilley, and Ellen Linville. The studio was buzzing with energy, laughter, curious questions, and plenty of truth-telling from this phenomenal group. Love what you hear? Donate to support our podcast coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit Links: Buy the book! The Unfiltered Enneagram by Liz Orr More on the Enneagram: The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile The Lazy Genius Podcast Episode #114 The Truth About Your Enneagram Number We Can Do Hard Things podcast with Enneagram specialist Suzanne Stabile as a guest The Lazy Genius Podcast Episode #114 The Truth About Your Enneagram Number Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis.

This week we sat down with Liz Orr—author of The Unfiltered Enneagram and the voice behind @rudeassenneagram—for an eye-opening conversation about the Enneagram. Liz shares her background and her experience stumbling into the Enneagram world, and she explains why this framework for self-awareness (especially understanding our own motivations) still matters today. Producer Tim takes a typing test and Liz unpacks his results -with plenty of laughs. Anne and Sarabeth already knew their types…or so they thought! They’re doing the work to turn some of those question marks into answers (one of us with eager anticipation, the other with some grumbling).  Together we explore: ✨ What the Enneagram really is (hint: not just a personality quiz, but a fluid framework that supports our practice of self-awareness, self-compassion, and growth)✨ How it can help us grow—not just “feel seen”✨ Whether the Enneagram was designed with neurotypical brains in mind or if works for everyone✨ Why we can’t (and shouldn’t) “type” other people Liz reminds us that the shadow side of our Enneagram type doesn’t define us forever. With awareness and self-work, we can free ourselves from the defenses we’ve built and live more openly and authentically. Oh, and if you’re still wondering which type you are? According to Liz, the Rude Ass Enneagram posts that hurt your feelings the most might just give you a clue. 😉 Love what you hear? Donate to support our podcast coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit Links: Buy the book! The Unfiltered Enneagram by Liz Orr More on the Enneagram: The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile The Lazy Genius Podcast Episode #114 The Truth About Your Enneagram Number We Can Do Hard Things podcast with Enneagram specialist Suzanne Stabile as a guest We mention spoons a lot – here’s what we’re referencing: What is Spoon Theory and Why is it Important? Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis.

This week we’re joined by author, educator, gamer, and all-around brilliant human Ash Brandin, @thegamereducator. With 15 years of teaching experience and a librarian’s heart for digital literacy, Ash brings both research and real-world wisdom to one of parenting’s trickiest topics: screen time. Their new book, Power On: Managing Screen Time to Benefit the Whole Family, drops Tuesday, August 26, 2025—and we couldn’t be more excited to dive into it with them. ✨ In this conversation, we explore: Why it’s time to unlearn the shame around screen use and embrace screen time as neutral. As Ash stated “Shame is not empowering.” The Screen Time ABCs—Autonomy, Behavior, and Content—and how they help us rethink what matters most Practical ways to build digital literacy and safety into family life (yes, we talk parental controls and Common Sense Media!) Ash’s STAR framework (Settings, Time, Ads/App Store, Restrictions) for setting up screens to support—not overwhelm—your family How conversations about screen time can shift from stressful battles to ongoing, supportive dialogues Ash’s approach is empowering, inclusive, and refreshingly realistic. Whether you’re a parent, educator, or just trying to navigate your own relationship with screens, this episode offers frameworks, fresh ideas, and a whole lot of encouragement. Tune in and get ready to power on—in a way that works for your family. Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Links: Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit https://www.thegamereducator.com @thegamereducator Bookshop.org

This week, we’re thrilled to welcome Lupe Penn, Youth & Schools Manager at Bookmarks—an independent bookstore and community hub in Winston-Salem, NC. Lupe gave us the inside scoop on the youth programming for the upcoming Bookmarks Book Festival and shared how she regularly coordinates author visits, book donations, and school partnerships on behalf of Bookmarks to make literature accessible and foster a love of reading in young people. It was such a joy to not only get to know Lupe, but also to learn more about the incredible ways Bookmarks is serving our community—not just as a cornerstone indie bookstore, but as a powerhouse for connecting authors, books, and readers. Don’t miss the upcoming 2025 Bookmarks Festival of Books and Authors! Lupe’s Bio:Lupe serves as the Youth & Schools Manager at Bookmarks, a non profit independent bookstore and community hub  in Winston-Salem, NC, where she coordinates author visits, book donations, and school partnerships to spark a love of reading in young people. As a proud Mexican American and mom of four, she brings her lived experiences to everything she does. She is passionate about increasing access to books, especially for underserved communities. Outside of work, she loves drawing, sewing, writing poetry, and creating anything that brings stories to life. Related Links: 2025 Bookmarks Festival of Books and Authors (schedule of events, free and ticketed event details, etc) Bookmarks Youth and Schools Outreach (includes Authors in Schools, Field Trips to Bookmarks, and more) Other Bookmarks Outreach Programs Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

Some parenting moments stretch you to your limits—and others stretch you past them. In this episode, Sarabeth and Anne get real about the challenges that push us to grow: bedtime standoffs, running out of parenting strategies in the heat of the moment, and juggling alone time, family time, and adult time without losing our minds. Anne also shares how PCIT (Parent-Child Interaction Therapy) has expanded her parenting toolbox, from praise-heavy affirmations to the (finally, a) time-out flow chart. We dive into the chaos of bringing kids into adult spaces—weddings, fancy restaurants—where expectations often outpace their developmental stage. Our survival kit? Pick your battles, prep ahead, set and share limits, bail gracefully if needed… and if you spot a kid with a tablet at dinner, mind your own business. Through it all, we work to honor our kids’ autonomy, hold healthy boundaries, and keep showing up even when we get it wrong. Parenting is a practice—and we’re in it for the long game. Links:Attachment ParentingWhat is PCIT?Local Business Shout-Outs: Elite Canine and Twin City Sweets Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza in downtown Winston-Salem, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Love what you hear? Donate in any amount to support our podcast or via LinkTree in bio coff.ee/mamasgonnamakeit

Okay but… what even is occupational therapy?! In this juicy and joyfully neurospicy episode, Anne and Sarabeth sit down with Jess Irvin-Spears (OT and founder of MoonBeam Therapies Clinic) to break it all down, complete with tangents and zero shame, as we embrace the chaotic magic of neurodivergent brains info-swapping! We cover: The basics of OT (spoiler: it’s not just handwriting and fine motor!) Some OT technical concepts, like sensory seeking, sensory sensitivity, retained reflexes, etc The Pyramid of Learning and why we have to meet the bottom needs (hello regulation!) before we can ask our kids to “just focus” What we noticed at the MoonBeam Clinic during the play group therapy and what Jess saw behind the scenes in her therapist brain The chaos and beauty of setting up for our visit—ADHD-style We wrap with some real-life mom banter, Jess shares gentle wisdom for parents navigating this stuff, and we end with a list of a whole bunch more that we definitely want to talk about next time. If you’ve ever wondered if OT could help your kid—or you just want to feel seen—this one’s for you. MoonBeam Therapies Occupational Therapy  Follow MoonBeam OT on Facebook Occupational therapy-  Retained Primitive Reflexes Early Intervention/Early Identification Proprioceptive Sensory Input  Sensory processing (sensory seeking, sensitivities, etc) The Pyramid of Learning (Taylor and Trott, 1991) Person First Language vs. Identity First (from autisticadvocacy.org) Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this tender episode about navigating grief, Sarabeth and Anne open up about their own recent experiences with loss. Guided by the insights of Brené Brown’s Atlas of the Heart, we discuss different types of grief and how grief is most often associated with death, but in reality, we grieve the loss of many things we love, including missed opportunities, unmet expectations, relationships, careers, and imagined futures.  From explaining the concept of death to small children to processing our own grief and supporting others through their grief journey, we kept nothing behind closed doors in this honest and vulnerable conversation about loss. Ultimately, to love is to lose, and it takes incredible courage for us to choose to love with our whole hearts, knowing loss is inevitable.  Links:Atlas of the Heart by Brené BrownUnfu*k Yourself  by Gary John Bishop Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

We are thrilled to host Emily Hughes, a Conscious Parenting Coach and founder of Finding Flow Parenting, from across the pond in East London. Emily works with parents (1:1 and with co-parents) who feel stuck in frustration, overwhelm and conflict to find more ease and flow in family life. She empowers parents to stay centred and grounded, to improve their communication skills, emotional intelligence and peaceful boundary setting skills. She also helps parents to do the deeper work to unearth patterns and limiting beliefs that are keeping them stuck. Also trained in Somatics, Emily is a big believer in brain-body parenting and parenting in tune with all the nervous systems in the household. We discussed the importance of self-regulation in our roles as parents, somatic healing techniques, and general wellness practices to help foster emotionally safe environments for our families and model transformative self-care for our children. Links:  Finding Flow Parenting – About Emily Hughes Find Emily on Instagram @findingflowparenting, on Facebook, and on Youtube For more information on postpartum mental health, visit Moms’ Mental Health Matters: Find Help – NCMHEP Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this episode, we take some time to reflect on our first season of Mama’s Gonna Make It and our excitement for the season ahead! We return to some questions we asked each other in the first-ever episode, questions like “What about this venture scares you?” We reflect on our own growth as facilitators and friends, and we explore some of the collaborative background work that we do to make every episode happen.  Our Season 2 premiere introduces our 4 Pillars, the guiding topics our episodes will engage around: Self-Growth, Relationships (all the ‘ships!), Neurodiversity, and Parenting The OG Episode  01: Parenting as a Practice  📌 Follow/subscribe to Mama’s Gonna Make It podcast  — and if today’s episode inspired you, please share it with a friend or leave a review. It helps more fabulous humans find our village. Follow us on socials (Insta, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube) @mamasgonnamakeit  Support our mission by making a gift in any amount if you feel so led! Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, we set out to learn from each other—and ourselves. From timers to labels to avoiding the infamous “doom bag,” we’re sharing the ADHD-friendly hacks that help keep our chaotic brains just a little more on track. 🧠 Life Hacks We Love: Make things visible –  Out of sight, out of mind is real. Label everything – Future You will thank you. Use timers – For transitions, tasks, even breaks. 🎒 The Ultimate Go Bag We brainstorm what a truly ADHD-friendly go bag might include. Think: practical, comforting, and always stocked with…chapstick and tweezers? 💣 What’s a Doom Bag? We get real about those catch-all bags (or baskets… or drawers) full of random things we might need but will definitely avoid sorting. 💰ADHD Tax – The cost of being late, disorganized, or overwhelmed. 🧹 Decluttering for ADHD Brains We debate some viral decluttering questions: “Does this spark joy?” – Marie Kondo “Do I have the capacity to care for this?” “Would I clean this if it had poop on it?” (Yes, really. And it works.) 💬 Semi-Side Quest Alert: We also dive into how our stuff holds energy, from inner child comfort objects to Anne’s yearly family memory boxes. Are we organizing—or soul-archiving? 🌅 Start Your Day Right Set the tone early. Because once the hurdle-jumping starts, it’s hard to stop. 🔗 Links & Resources: The Lazy Genius Podcast: What Should Be in Your Bag?  MES Solutions Isabel Sanchez (financial coaching) ADHD Tax The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up by Marie Kondo ADHD-Friendly Viral “Poop Rule” May Help ADHDers Declutter Ways to Organize Your Fridge “ This is why I was downright relieved when I saw a TikTok by KC Davis, author and host of the Struggle Care podcast, suggesting people with ADHD reorganize our fridges to make it easier to stay organized—and actually eat the groceries we buy.” Stuff we mention: Baggallini bags Tweezerman Monica’s Phone Pen Hoots Roller Bar 💌 Got a hack that changed your life? Share it with us on Instagram! DM @mamasgonnamakeit 📸 For pics of Polly the dog and her clothes, fridge organization, and Anne’s mantelpiece memories organizing system, head to our socials on Facebook (Mama’s Gonna Make It) and Instagram! @mamasgonnamakeit Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

She’s back! In our second conversation with author, educator, and mom Lily Rosene, we explore her resilient journey of becoming a mother- one that didn’t follow the script. From spontaneous pre-term labor at 30 weeks to supporting her baby in the NICU, Lily opens up about her real, raw experience navigating a different entry to motherhood than she planned for. We talk about those first weeks and how she coped with postpartum anxiety, PTSD, and the emotional rollercoaster that followed delivery.  Lily also shares how her love of literacy and creativity helped her reclaim her identity — not just as a mom, but as an artist and storyteller. Her children’s books, How to Bee a Friend and How to Bee polite (co-created with Allyson Watwood), invites kids to engage with stories in a new way by teaching literary concepts in a fun way and  leaving space for them to become illustrators themselves. Her creativity mirrors her motherhood journey as a powerful metaphor for resilience and imagination. We talk about: 👶 The NICU journey and supporting a 30-week preemie 💔 Letting go of the romanticized birth experience 🧠 Navigating mental health: PTSD & postpartum anxiety ⏳ Understanding milestones and adjusted age 💡 Reclaiming creativity as a form of healing and identity 🐝 Lily’s children’s books 🧑‍🎨 Fostering creativity in kids and ourselves 🚶‍♀️ Taking the next step even when imposter syndrome creeps in.  Whether you’re deep in the NICU chapter, feeling lost in the newborn fog, or trying to rediscover yourself through the chaos, we see you. You are not alone. 💛 Links & Resources Mentioned: A Week to Week Guide to Premature Babies (from Parents.com) Programs that Helped Lily Ronald McDonald House Charities of Alabama Ronald McDonald House 5K Ronald McDonald House Charities- Piedmont Triad March of Dimes – Birmingham Project NICU Postpartum Mental Health Resources Traumatic Events and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (from National Institute of Mental Health) Postpartum Anxiety (from Cleveland Clinic) ✨ Connect with Lily Rosene: Follow Lily’s journey, books, and upcoming events at www.literacywithlily.com. 📌 Follow/subscribe to Mama’s Gonna Make It (on Facebook and Insta @mamasgonnamakeit — and if today’s episode moved you, please share it with a friend or leave a review. It helps more fabulous humans find our village. 💕 Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

This week on Mama’s Gonna Make It, we’re getting lit (literally!) with local children’s book author, award-winning former high school English teacher, and literacy advocate Lily Rosene! Join us as we dive into all things reading: sparking joy, building lifelong habits, and how literacy can shape connection, curiosity, and confidence in our kids. We talk about:📚 What made Lily fall in love with reading📖 How we can foster a true joy of reading—not just compliance with our kids and students👧🏽 How giving kids choice in reading builds empowerment and identity🧠 The brain + how different formats help all types of learners🌟 Lily’s own delightful children’s books: How to Bee a Friend and How to Bee Polite Books We Mentioned: Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens The Joy of Reading by Donalyn Miller & Teri Lesesne Dog Man by Dav Pilkey The Book Whisperer by Donalyn Miller Dragons Love Tacos by Adam Rubin If You Give a Pig a Pancake / If You Give a Dog a Donut by Laura Numeroff How to Bee a Friend and How to Bee Polite by Lily Rosene Resources + Highlights: Lily’s website Follow Lily on Instagram: @literacywithlily Nido and Mariana Qubein Children’s Museum On Student Choice Reading Edutopia: The Reading Wars – Choice vs Canon by Holly Korbey Beanstack Blog: The Art of Reading – Do Graphic Novels Count? School Library Journal: Laying the Foundation for Reading Joy by Donalyn Miller Choice Time  Access Community The Yarn Podcast – Ep. 166: The Joy of Reading Unraveled with Donalyn Miller Heinemann Podcast – Harnessing the Joy of Reading with Donalyn Miller Goodreads Libby App – Free E-books, Audiobooks, and E-magazines from local Public Libraries Get a library card from your local public library Call to get your PIN Download the Libby app Log in using your library credentials Explore thousands of books—free and at your fingertips! Sora App– Ask your school librarian if your school has access! (WSFCS does!) Whether you’re a book lover, reluctant reader, or trying to inspire your little ones to fall in love with stories, this episode will leave you feeling inspired, informed, and ready to get lit(erary)! Don’t forget to like, follow, and share with your fellow bookworms! 🐝📚✨ Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

Welcome to our very first Book-Ish Segment! Anne and Sarabeth—lifelong readers and narrative nerds—have been itching to dedicate an episode to the joy, function, and nuances of reading. In this conversation, we dive into our personal relationships with books: what we read, how we read, and how those habits have shifted over time. Of course, sitting in our life experiences as moms we also touch on fostering a love of reading with kiddos, and SB lends her professional experience on helping make that happen. From audiobooks to graphic novels, ratty paperbacks to digital downloads, we celebrate the many valid ways to consume stories. There’s no one “right” way to be a reader—and no genre or format too niche to count. We also explore how neurodivergence, particularly ADHD, can complicate traditional reading habits. Producer Tim, Sarabeth, and Anne share personal reflections and practical strategies—like reading while listening—to make books more accessible and enjoyable. We talk: 📖 Reading for fun vs. reading for function 🧠 ADHD and attention struggles around reading 🎧 Multi-format strategies (audiobook + text = magic!) 🌈 Removing shame from your shelf—yes, that romance novel counts. As does audio books, graphic novels, reading is reading. 🪴 Rebuilding joy and choice into your reading life and for our kids 📚 Letting go of book guilt + embracing your TBR pile your way And of course, we tackle the ultimate reader’s debate:Do you finish every book you start, or are you at peace with abandoning a story mid-read? Whether you’re a passionate page-turner or a recovering perfectionist learning to read for pleasure again—this episode is for you. Links Reading Theory:  Windows Mirrors and Sliding Glass Doors Ted Talk by  Books as windows, mirrors, and sliding glass doors Fostering love of reading in children/kid choice Books and Authors we discuss (buckle up, it’s a doozy of a list!) Legendborn trilogy by Tracy Deonn Nicholas Sparks Turtles All the Way Down by John Green Marissa Meyer: Heartless, Gilded, and the Cinder-Book One of the Lunar Chronicles Throne of Glass by Sarah J Maas The Giver by Lois Lowry and new release in graphic novel format Lore Olympus (graphic novel on Webtoon) The Guncle and the Guncle Abroad – Steven Rowley (Excellent on audio!!) A Court of Thorns and Roses (affectionately ACOTAR) by Sarah J Maas Abby Jimenez Beach Read by Emily Henry We Need No Wings by Ann Dávila Cardinal A Snicker of Magic by Natalie Lloyd  The Women by Kristin Hannah Enneagram Books: The Road Back to You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Morgan Cron and The Unfiltered Enneagram by Elizabeth Orr Outlander by Diana Gabaldon Childhood’s End and 2001 Space Odyssey by Arthur C Clarke Charles Dickens House of Mirth by Edith Warton Dean Koontz A Tale of Two Cities Jane Eyre Bridgerton Series by Julia Quinn Shadow and Bone trilogy and Six of Crows Duology by Leigh Bardugo The Joy of Reading by Donalyn Miller and Tere Lesesne  Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad Stephen King: The Stand, The Shining, The Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption,On Writing, Eyes of the Dragon, Gunslinger, and SO MUCH MORE Kids Books: Amelia Bedelia, The Magic Tree House, Stellaluna, Verdi, Love Makes a Family Reading Resources Public Library (ours is linked!) The Joy of Reading Webtoon  Sora Libby and Hoopla (apps, use library card to access content on your tablet, smart phone, computer, or kindle) Local Independent Bookstores (Bookmarks and Book Ferret are our faves here!) Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this rich and reflective episode, we welcome back our friend Thao Nguyen to talk about love in all its complexity. From the 7 types of Greek love to the Buddhist concept of metta (loving kindness, compassion, equanimity, and joy), we discuss love in many forms. Within that conversation, we explore how naming our emotions helps us understand and navigate them. We talk about anger—where it comes from, how to prevent it, and what role expectations play in our emotional lives. Together, we stumble upon our first ever MGMI framework: change, release, or communicate your expectations—a practical tool to help prevent frustration and resentment. We go deep on forgiveness, especially in relationships where differences in values or politics can be painful. Is alignment possible even when we disagree? We also ask: Who are you when no one is around? Finally, we debate affirmations: are they empowering, or just projections of what we think we (or our children) “should” be? Join us for an episode full of honesty, curiosity, and a few good laughs. Links: Lexington Live Little Women These Are the 7 Types of [Greek] Love (from Psychology Today)  Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown Name it to Tame It: Label Your Emotions to Overcome Negative Thoughts  Metta -In Buddhist practice, Metta, meaning loving-kindness or universal goodwill, is a cultivated mental state where one focuses on the well-being of all beings, including themselves. Equanimity definition: evenness of mind especially under stress; balance Mama’s Gonna Make It- our first framework! Expectations Framework to Help Prevent Anger: Change  Release Communicate  Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this inspiring episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, we’re joined by the radiant and multi-talented Thao Nguyen—performer, coach, director, actor, traveler, and all-around incredible human. Together, we dive into the language of music, its healing power, and how group singing and sound practices can ground us in community and calm. We explore how music and mindfulness can soothe our “monkey mind” and quiet the inner narrator that so often runs on autopilot. Thao discusses the practice of OM chanting and meditation, reminding us of the deep breath that can bring us back to the present moment. Everybody: OMmmmm… We also talk: 🧠 Monkey mind & self-dialogue: How to create space between ourselves and our inner critic.👪 Mental memory vs. present awareness: Noticing when our fixed ideas about others (especially our kids) limit our ability to truly see them and even limit their potential for authenticity and success. 💡 Philosophical nuggets: How expectation shapes experience, and how self-awareness opens doors to deeper connection.   As we wrap up, we discuss: 🌱 The Power of Pursuing Failure 💬 Creating psychologically safe spaces where growth is nurtured through encouragement and trust 🧘‍♀️ The daily power of mindfulness, music, and affirmations in shaping an authentic, connected life Whether you’re a music lover, a parent, or someone looking to feel more grounded, this episode is an uplifting reminder of the power of presence, voice, and vulnerability. Links:www.thaotnguyen.com@thetaoofthao on Insta Dr. Martha Beck on creativity as the opposite of anxiety (CNN on Insta)Video: The Psychological Benefits of Humming (BBC Global) Yoga Journal: The Sound of Om Pranayama WebMD: What is Pranayama? Yoga Journal: What is Pranayama? A taste of Thao’s vocal coaching: Vocal AnchoringBeing Comfortable with Failing – Simon Sinek Books we discuss: The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this powerful episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, we’re joined by Karon McKinney—stepmom to a grown child, community builder, co-founder of Siren Series Jazz, and Trauma Resilience Trainer through the Center for Trauma Resilient Communities. Karon shares her perspective on the joys and some of the challenges of step-parenting a beloved now-adult child, as well as her expertise on the topic of trauma: what it is, how we can process it, and healing growth. We dive deep into understanding trauma and healing, including: What trauma is (and what it isn’t) How two people can process the same event differently How trauma stays in our bodies if we don’t close the stress loop The quickest, easiest method for processing trauma and why it works The healing roles of connection, community, movement, sleep, singing, grounding, spirituality, and more We also explore: The purpose and significance of trigger warnings Why it’s vital to process our own trauma to show up better in parenting and relationships Noticing trauma in children and supporting them through it The impact of generational trauma and the work of cycle-breaking By the end, we arrive at a hopeful realization: sometimes, one person showing up with love, care, and resilience can change a life.  Join us for an inspiring and deeply honest conversation about healing, community, and the power we each have to make a difference in ourselves and in our spaces. Links to things we discuss:  Trauma definition from Mental Health America Is Your Child an Orchid or a Dandelion? Lara van Dernoot Lipsky: Trauma Stewardship About ACEs: Adverse Childhood Experiences (additional link from Cleveland Clinic) ACEs Trauma Assessment (Please note: this assessment has limitations.) Simon Scenic – The 8 Minute Rule to Save a Friend Yoga books- Yoga Bunny and A Friend for Yoga Bunny Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this week’s special episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, Anne, Sarabeth, and Producer Tim sit down with two truly inspiring guests, Roseann Calabritto—neuroscientist, grandparent, academic, and fellow neurospicy mama, and the one and only Karen McKinney— Advocate and Trauma Resilience Train the Trainer, step-mom to a full-grown kiddo, community builder, and co-founder of Siren Series Jazz.  Together, we dive into a wide-ranging conversation exploring neurodivergence, flow, identity, parenting, healing, growth, and the unique paths that bring us together. ✨ Topics we explore in this episode: The “potato and the flow” concept: embracing chaotic discipline (if life allows it) and how productivity looks different for neurodivergent folks Real talk on ADHD medication: how it works from a brain perspective, our experiences with side effects, and the evolving journey of choosing (or not choosing) different treatments for ourselves and our kids The power of listening to intuition and recognizing moments of “flow” in our everyday lives Creative energy, shared ideas, and the ways we’re more connected than we realize How our healing journey changes over time (and how healing feeds growth) ✨ One of our favorite takeaways? Community is key to healing. This episode is packed with science, storytelling, lived experience, and laughter. Whether you’re on a healing journey, navigating neurodivergence, searching for your next read, or just craving real talk—you’ll feel right at home here. Links: Potato and Flow (Chaotic Discipline) How do you visualize months? Monica’s Closet from Friends Books we discussed: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert, State of Wonder by Ann Patchett, Thursday Next series by Jasper Fforde, Talespinners series by Scott Reintgen Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this week’s episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, Sarabeth and Anne sit down with an inspiring guest: Roseann Calabritto, a neuroscientist, grandparent, and fellow neurospicy mama navigating academia and family. Producer Tim is along for the ride as we dive into a conversation that bridges science, lived experience, and a whole lot of curiosity. We talk about what it means to be a “grandfam”, balancing family life while pursuing degrees in neuroscience during and after a global pandemic, and the drive to return to school later in life. You’ll hear us geek out over: Neurospicy brains and how they differ from the neurotypical “norm” The lived experience of AuDHD (Autism + ADHD) and synesthesia Coping mechanisms and seeking diagnoses as adults  The rise of pop neuroscience and what it gets right—or wrong Nerdy musings about dopamine, serotonin, CRISPR, genetic mutations, RNA/DNA, and telomeres Don’t miss this rich and wildly curious conversation about identity, resilience, and the power of understanding ourselves on both a molecular and deeply human level.  Whether you’re a science lover, a late bloomer, part of a grandfam, or neurospicy soul who’s ever wondered how it all works, we’re glad you’re here with us.  Rate, review, and share with your fellow brainy babes—because Mama’s Gonna Make It, one synapse at a time. University of North Carolina- Greensboro Wake Forest University Neuroscience   AuDHD– overlap of autism and ADHD  What is Synesthesia? Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs Links:  Ep 3: Neurodiversity and Masking   All the Things She Said by TaTu with AIM door slam Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this heartfelt episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, cohosts Anne and Sarabeth dive into the power of vulnerability with Producer Tim and explore the beauty of building authentic connections. We reflect on how grateful we are for you—our listeners—who continue to show up, share your stories, and let us know when something resonates. Your responses remind us that we’re not alone (and neither are you). We open up about what it means to be our real, evolving selves and the unexpected ways connection happens when we allow others to see us as we are. We share stories of stars-aligning experiences (like Sarabeth’s unexpected author connection and navigating the world of making “mom friends”) that only happen when we’re brave enough to lean in and say hi.  Producer Tim brings in a thoughtful discussion about the power of podcasting as a tool for community and expression. Together, we reflect on where our podcast fits in the landscape—landing somewhere in the realm of health, wellness, lifestyle, and honest conversations around many topics, including (but not limited to) parenting. A few key takeaways include: Vulnerability as the key to finding your people and the connection we miss when we let fear keep us quiet.  How exploring the motivation of a kiddo’s behavior is helpful in supporting them to make positive changes The surprising way conversations (even one-sided ones!) help us find language for our own thoughts and feelings. We hope this episode reminds you that you’re not alone, and that there’s space for your story, too. We’re so glad you’re here. Links to people or places we mentioned: Author Lily Rosene: https://www.literacywithlily.com/ or Insta @literacywithlily Nido &  Mariana Qubein Children’s Museum in High Point, NC Forsyth County Public Library: Clemmons Branch  Links to articles and guides: Understanding the Goals of Misbehavior from Your Child by Elizabeth Earnest (article from Center for Mindfulness and CBT) derived from the work of Alfred Adler and Rudolf Dreikurs Quote from Edutopia Instagram post: “Every time you think of calling a kid ‘attention-seeking’ this year, consider changing it to ‘connection-seeking’ and see how your perspective changes.” – Dr. Jody Carrington, Psychologist  Concussion care from the CDC What Inner Child Work is and Steps to Heal, BetterUp blogpost by Allaya Cooks-Campbell Listening to shame by Brene Brown (TED, 2012) “Vulnerability is the birthplace of innovation, creativity, and change.” Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

We’re popping into your feed with a little bonus episode—because why not? Anne and Sarabeth chat about the funny (and slightly suspicious) things kids do, like imaginary friends from outer space who just happen to have birthdays. They also dive into the unique (and often hilarious) ways kids interpret the world—like Anne’s experience with Sunday School boogeymonsters. Producer Tim shares a story from his own childhood, which somehow leads to a conversation about anxiety dreams (because of course it does). Expect plenty of tangents, laughs, and off-the-cuff riffing in this fun, informal chat—perfect for brightening up your Friday! For photos of Ondern/Wonderin’s 3rd and 5th birthday parties, visit our socials: Instagram: @mamasgonnamakeit Facebook: facebook.com/mamasgonnamakeit/ Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

Whitney Hsu joined us again for a fun and heartfelt friend chat where we talked about some of our recent growing edges! Anne reflected on the release of Episode 2, “Mom Guilt,” which served as both a humorous and humbling reminder of growth and gratitude. Whitney laid down some wisdom around the importance of allowing people to love us via tangible care. Tim shared memories from his triple bypass recovery and the love and care he received during that time. Sarabeth recalled her appreciation for those who supported her while she was in a wheelchair postpartum (even if those thank-you notes are still unsent… #ADHD). We all agreed that honoring the intent behind people’s care (whether through acts of service, food, hovering (I mean, Quality Time), or other gestures) is a meaningful way to acknowledge their love. Letting people help us deepens our connections; we build trust through vulnerability. From learning to ask for help (and receiving it without guilt or shame) to schlepping our kids, and even revisiting a bit of postal service-related trauma (I mean, growing edges 🤣), we covered it all. Tune in for a conversation that’s equal parts real talk and laughter! Links:  Hsumanity Reads Instagram with Whitney Hsu @hsumanityreads Simon Sinek & Trevor Noah on Friendship, Loneliness, Vulnerability, and More | Full Conversation Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

For our first-ever guest episode, we’re joined by Whitney Hsu (@hsumanityreads) to chat about parenting kids with ADHD, recognizing certain traits in ourselves and our partners, and the power of labels—when they help, when they hurt, and why they matter. We also dive into excuses vs. reasons, what true fairness really means, and why deadlines (even the ones we make up) can actually work in our favor to be powerful motivators. It’s a fun, insightful convo you won’t want to miss!” Links:  Hsumanity Reads Instagram with Whitney Hsu @hsumanityreads Vanderbilt form for ADHD assessment  Autism screening info from AutismSpeaks.org  Bandage Lesson to promote true fairness and equity, everyone getting what they need RSD (Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria)  Sheryl Crow “My Favorite Mistake” The 50 No Challenge from Signy Wilson Monday Morning 3am Music Club: article in Winston-Salem Journal from 2021 and their Bandcamp Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, we’re unpacking the complicated relationship we have with routines—how do they help us, do our kids need them, and how do we make them work in a way that supports our lives without feeling constricted? We dive into the accommodations and coping mechanisms we’ve learned along the way, from structuring our days to trying to embrace flexibility when things don’t go as planned. Sarabeth reflects on how building routines has been a practice, with every day bringing a different version of “best.” Anne shares her experience on shaping sleep routines (or rather, waking routines) in her home. We also take a real look at reward systems- when they work, when they don’t, and how they can sometimes backfire. As always, we reflect on our own living and parenting practices. We discuss what’s gone well in our parenting journey and what we’d do differently if we could go back. We even talk through and problem-solve some disruptive sleep habits in real time! Join us as we navigate the balance between structure and adaptability in parenting and life. Links: Our article “Mom Guilt” by Anne and Sarabeth, published by Davidson Local (referenced at beginning of episode) Structured approach with Moms on Call: “Simple, sensible parenting resources to sleep, feed, laugh, and love birth through toddlerhood.” Where Anne learned about infant sleepy cues: Taking Cara Babies The author mentioned in this episode: Scott Reintgen (upper elementary, middle grades, YA, and offering school visits for grades 3-12)  Podcast that Producer Tim mentioned: Health Geeks Book Club (part of The Less Desirables Podcast Network) Dr. Becky at Good Inside: Her take on time-outs and punishments (and a new phrase- STURDY parenting!) An Age-By-Age Guide to Helping Kids Manage Emotions (from The Gottman Institute)  Ok To Wake Lights: Anne’s pick: Ok to Wake light  Hatch has options for both app-controlled and phone-free sound machine/programmable light. Sticker Chart and Reward Systems: Yay or Nay? Yay: The Best Way To Set Up a Reward System for Kids from Parents Balanced: Improving Children’s Behavior: How To Use The Sticker Chart Method (And Other Reward-Based Systems) from Better Help Nay: What’s Wrong with Sticker Charts and Reward Systems? Scaffolding In the Early Years (from Famly) Spoon Theory for describing the amount of energy tasks take up on certain days (usually talked about in the context of chronic pain or executive function impairment) McKay’s Used Bookstore and Record Store (plus toys, video games, legos, CDs, puzzles, board games, and a bunch of other stuff)  Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

Are you a meticulous planner, someone who goes with the flow, or a bit of both? In this episode, Anne, Sarabeth, and producer Tim explore the joys of planning—and the challenges that arise when things don’t go as expected. Anne dreams of being more spontaneous but finds herself deeply attached to her plans. Sarabeth envisions the future as a multiverse of infinite, semi-planned possibilities—structured yet open to change. Meanwhile, Tim takes a unique approach, scheduling spontaneity into his routine, enjoying the unknown while keeping a loose timeline in place. We also dive into journaling, organization strategies for the mental load, and how we set boundaries with our kids to carve out the time we need to start our day on the right foot. Join us for this insightful and lighthearted conversation—and let us know, are you a planner or a go-with-the-flow kind of person? Links:Anne’s Doodle Journal Planner No-Cut Cat Door Safety Device Join the conversation! Instagram: @mamasgonnamakeit Facebook: facebook.com/mamasgonnamakeit/ Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In Episode 7, Anne introduced a personal challenge in her journey of self-growth and motherhood: shifting from survival mode to endurance mode—and ultimately, from simply enduring life to truly enjoying it. In this episode, we dive deeper into that transition, exploring the rough, raw edges of the privilege that is parenting. Anne shares how self-care and intentionality helped flip the switch toward embracing life more fully. We discuss practical ways to make pain points more fun and how small, routine moments can become special: ✨ Moody Movie Bath Night? Yes, please!✨ Turning cleanup time into a game? Sign me up!✨ Broccoli = Baby Trees? If it works for you, congrats! (LOL)✨ Ice cream for breakfast? Bring it on—hello, frozen fruit and veggie smoothies! Of course, our conversation detoured into food—how we approach getting our kids to eat nutritious meals without creating pressure or labeling foods as “good” or “bad.” And somehow, we ended up on the topics of Costco Nap magic and Halloween, too. Enjoy this candid, heartfelt conversation as Anne and Sarabeth navigate parenthood, self care, growth, and the little joys that make all the difference. Links:  Lindsey Gurk – “Empowering Motherhood Journey” Get Your Pink Back Anxiety and Evolution: How Fear and Anxiety Drove Human Evolution (Video from National Geographic Society, 2023) Anxiety Disorders in Evolutionary Perspective (Nesse, 2022) Light and Sleep What Color Light Helps You Sleep (Sleep Foundation) Kids and Food Feeding Littles Feeding Littles instagram Dr. Becky at Good Inside on Kids and food power struggles More about Intuitive Eating Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this go-with-the-flow episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, Sarabeth, Anne, and Producer Tim take an unexpected dive into the world of names. Anne finally learns Sarabeth’s name, and they all laugh over the name change process (quite a feat for anyone to navigate, but we assert it’s especially challenging as a person with ADHD). From there, the conversation turns tender as they share the stories behind their own children’s names and how they came to be. Producer Tim opens up (quite candidly) about the unforgettable moment he became a father, and the group takes on the ever-debated topic of gender reveal parties- are they a must or a bust? By the end, they arrive at the usual Mama’s Gonna Make It philosophy: as long as it’s not causing harm – however you name, reveal, or roll, you do you, boo. Tune in for a casual episode of laughs, heartfelt moments, and the reassurance that whatever path you choose, Mama’s Gonna Make It. Helpful Links: Something like this helpful name change guide for NC (from The Knot) would have been helpful for us.  Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

After much discussion, we have concluded that “Gentle Parenting” is a misleading name for a parenting approach that emphasizes a child’s personhood while also upholding boundaries and following through with predictable consequences. In this episode, we explore what gentle parenting really means—validating emotions, setting limits, and implementing consequences with respect. We also share our personal experiences, discuss the power of apologies in parenting, and break down how to balance compassion with authority. And when in doubt? Take a cue from teachers—they’re often the best example of “gentle parenting” in action! For more on Gentle Parenting   Unleashing the Power of Gentle Parenting (& 3 examples) What is Gentle Parenting – Cleveland Clinic Background on other Parenting Styles and it’s evolution The Evolution of Parenting Styles: A Deeper Look What is Attachment Parenting Dr Becky about Boundaries  How to Set Boundaries with Kids – Dr. Becky Kennedy & Dr. Andrew Huberman  Setting Boundaries Effectively: Dr. Becky Kennedy To hear Anne’s “One More Book” and other real-life parenting experiences, visit our socials  Instagram: @mamasgonnamakeit Facebook: facebook.com/mamasgonnamakeit/ Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this sincere episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, we take inspiration from the lyrics of Dear Theodosia by Lin-Manuel Miranda and the children’s book The Breaking News by Sarah Lynn Reul to explore the profound impact of world events and the news on our kids. We reflect on how differences in opinions about running the world often stem from a shared desire to create a safe, hopeful future for our children, even when perspectives on how to get there are vastly different. We touch on the division in our society, discussing how we can do better as adults to model kindness, understanding, and unity for the next generation. Finally, we explore the idea that the responsibility of bringing joy and light shouldn’t fall solely on those to whom it comes naturally—often our children—and that even the most uplifting people sometimes need support, too. Join us for a poignant, honest conversation about holding and supporting one another through hard times, dealing with challenges as adults, and guiding our children through difficult times. Dear Theodosia by Lin-Manuel Miranda and Leslie Odom Jr. from the Broadway musical HAMILTON Author read-aloud of The Breaking News by author/illustrator Sarah Lynne Reul Circle of Influence framework by Dr. Steven Covey Ted Talk: Circle of Concern and Circle of Influence by Dr. Steven Covey Image and article: Circles of Influence from Learning Loop Enneagram resources on our LinkTree Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.Theme Music by Doug Davis.

In this episode, we dive into the world of big feelings—ours, our kids’, and how we try to navigate it all with grace. We open up about the challenges of processing our own emotions while guiding our children through theirs and modeling a full spectrum of feelings while making it clear that they’re not responsible for carrying the weight of our adult stress or struggles. With humility, heart, and a little humor, we unpack the complexities of emotions and how they shape our parenting journeys. Join us for a thoughtful conversation about feelings—big, small, and everything in between! How to Reparent Yourself While Parenting Your Kids from Parents.com Dr. Brené Brown: Research Professor/Storyteller at the University of Houston Atlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human Experience Podcasts: Unlocking Us and Dare to Lead Ted Talks: The Power of Vulnerability and Listening to Shame Apology Resources:  How to Apologize to Your Kids with Dr. Becky Kennedy and Dr. Andrew Huberman Instead of forcing your kid to apologize, do this… (from Dr. Becky at Good Inside) MeaningFull Living Article: Dr. Becky’s Tips for Tackling Aggressive Behaviors  Podcast Episode: When kids bite, hit, and kick: what it means and what to do with Dr. Becky Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music by Doug Davis Photo by MomDigitalDownloads

The information shared in this episode is based on personal experiences and is intended for conversational purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We are not licensed medical providers, and the content here should not be used to make decisions about your health or well-being. If you are experiencing questions or concerns about your own mental health or brain functionality, we strongly encourage you to consult with a qualified healthcare professional. In this honest and hilarious episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, Anne and Sarabeth dive into the complex world of neurodiversity and masking. What does it mean to “mask,” and how does it impact relationships, work, and self-acceptance? The hosts bring their signature blend of honesty and humor to this layered topic, exploring how masking has shown up in their own lives.  Adding a personal twist, Producer Tim steps out from behind the mic to share a candid glimpse into his own experiences with neurodiversity, self-discovery, and validation.  Through laughter, truth, and a few unexpected revelations, Anne and Sarabeth discover new ways to relate to each other—and to themselves—while shedding light on the unspoken realities of neurodiverse life. Don’t miss this thought-provoking and delightfully real conversation! Local people we mention:  Juxtaposition Studios (K. Partridge, Studio Director and Owner) Myers Greenhouse Definitions: Neurodivergent definition from the Cleveland Clinic Neurodiversityfrom Harvard Health Masking from Inclusion Hub What is Tourette Syndrome? From Tourette Association of America  Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD) from the Cleveland Clinic Let’s Talk About Code Switching: A Double Edged Sword from Berkeley Graduate Division Enneagram resources   The Enneagram Godmother: Suzanne Stabile Understanding the Enneagram Guide Suzanne’s Podcast: The Enneagram Journey (on Apple, Spotify) We Can Do Hard Things Episode 226 Enneagram: Why You Are the Way You Are featuring Suzanne Stabile(Listen on Spotify)  Elizabeth Orr Instagram @rudeassenneagram The Unfiltered Enneagram by Elizabeth Orr The Behaviorist: An Unfiltered Conversation about the Enneagram with Liz Orr Links:  Backpack Cat YouTube Video  Ciabatta Cat YouTube video Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media. Theme music is by Doug Davis. Neurotypes graphic copyright ©GeniusWithin

In this episode of Mama’s Gonna Make It, we’re tackling the all-too-familiar weight of mom guilt—the nagging feelings of not being enough, whether it’s not being clean enough, fun enough, artsy enough, or just enough. We get real about the pressure to meet impossible standards and explore how some of this guilt might just be plain old guilt—not necessarily tied to being a mom. Along the way, we remind ourselves (and you!) of the unique strengths and magic we bring to the table and how those superpowers can offset the things we don’t always excel at. Life is messy, and we’re all juggling so much—we can’t do it all, and that’s okay. By the end of the episode, we land on a powerful truth: practicing gratitude might just be the antidote to the guilt that weighs us down. Let’s embrace our magic and focus on what really matters. Tune in!  Join the conversation! Instagram: @mamasgonnamakeit Facebook: facebook.com/mamasgonnamakeit/ The debut of our bi-monthly column with Davidson Local: The Terrifying Power of Authentic Vulnerability   Links for more info on topics mentioned in this episode:  Terms and hacks explained: Body doubling– a productivity strategy used to finish possibly annoying jobs while having another person (body double) present. The body double’s duty is to keep the individual focused on the task at hand to reduce potential distractions and increase motivation. DOOM piles– Acronym for “Didn’t Organize, Only Moved” and characterized by stashing random items that need to be organized in one place, to be dealt with later.  The Basket Method In our case, if you don’t empty/put away asap, it becomes a DOOM basket. Neurotypical– a term that’s used to describe individuals with typical neurological development or functioning  Art supplies  Crayola Color Wonder Mess-Free Markers and Paper Melissa and Doug Water WOW! Water Reveal Pads Bath paint: Crayola or DIY from Parenting Chaos Helpful accounts and people: LOCAL! Organized Jill: Local Winston-Salem Home Organizer Insta @organizedjill LOCAL! Kendra Adachi, the Lazy Genius 13 Principles Podcast Episode The Lazy Genius Way The Plan: Manage Your Time Like a Lazy Genius KC Davis  StruggleCare podcast Instagram @strugglecare Book: How To Keep House While Drowning Health Geeks Book Club Podcast with Kristen Norton and Eleanor Russell We Can Do Hard Things Podcast: How to Lose Half Your Guilt with Glennon Doyle, Abby Wambach, and Amanda Doyle Recorded in the Omniverus Studios at Liberty Plaza, we are produced by Tim Beeman for Such-N-Such Media.

In our very first episode, we’re diving headfirst into the wild, beautiful chaos that inspired Mama’s Gonna Make It. Join us as we introduce ourselves—two neurodivergent moms trying to balance full-time jobs, parenting, and friendship while keeping it honest, funny, and oh-so-real. We’ll share a bit about our journeys, from the highs and lows of motherhood to the challenges of navigating life with neurodivergent brains. You’ll get a sneak peek into the kind of laughs, lessons, and stories you can expect in future episodes. Plus, we talk about why self-growth, messy moments, and showing up authentically are at the heart of our podcast. Whether you’re here for the solidarity, the humor, or just a break from your own beautiful chaos, you’re in the right place. Tune in, and let’s figure out this crazy journey of motherhood and life—together. Debut of our bi-monthly column with Davidson Local: The Terrifying Power of Authentic Vulnerability   Instagram: @mamasgonnamakeit Facebook: facebook.com/mamasgonnamakeit/ Links for more info on topics mentioned in this episode:  Definition of neurodivergent from Cleveland Clinic How to Reparent Yourself While Parenting Your Kids from Parents.com Enneagram resources   The Enneagram Godmother: Suzanne Stabile Understanding the Enneagram Guide Suzanne’s Podcast: The Enneagram Journey (on Apple, Spotify) We Can Do Hard Things Episode 226 Enneagram: Why You Are the Way You Are featuring Suzanne Stabile(Listen on Spotify)  Elizabeth Orr Instagram @rudeassenneagram The Unfiltered Enneagram by Elizabeth Orr The Behaviorist: An Unfiltered Conversation about the Enneagram with Liz Orr The Savor Podcast (family member who inspired the idea to start a podcast!). Listen to The Savor Podcast on Spotify!