Moving Medicine Podcast

Lisa Alemi is a physician spouse, mother of three, and the creator of Move Mama Move — a relocation planning system born out of one too many moves done the hard way. Married to a general surgeon she met in San Francisco, Lisa has lived through the full physician-family relocation arc: a research-year honeymoon period, the brutal pivot back into clinical training, fellowship in Seattle, four years in Kansas City, and a cross-country move to Los Angeles with a six-month-old in tow. That last move, executed on no sleep and full mom brain, was the one that broke her — and built the planner. Now based in LA, Lisa walks host Zoe Taylor through the mechanics most physician families never get briefed on: how to vet a moving company with the right 30-plus questions, why a binding estimate matters more than people realize, what to put in the "do not move" box, how to color-code a household so movers don't need to ask where anything goes, and why mail forwarding will quietly fail you on the documents that matter most. They cover the nervous, expensive, emotionally taxing parts of relocation — and the simple systems that take the guesswork out. They cover: Why the research years of residency can be a false sense of security — and what changes the moment a clinical rotation starts The first traumatic move (a 26-foot truck, San Francisco, 5 PM rush hour, no plan) that became the catalyst for every checklist after Why long-distance moves often involve two different companies — and what that means for accountability Binding estimates, hourly traps, long-carry fees, stairs, parking permits, and the fine print physician families miss The "do not move" box: passports, jewelry, electronics, and what should never touch a moving truck Why air tags in a couple of boxes are now a non-negotiable for cross-country moves The 60-cents-per-pound reimbursement rule, and why renter's or homeowner's insurance during a move is worth keeping A color-coded labeling system that lets movers place every box and piece of furniture without a single "where does this go?" Why mail forwarding fails for the documents that matter — and which institutions to call directly How a planned move protects the energy of the home you're moving into What Makes This Episode Different A physician spouse who has moved through every training stage — residency, fellowship, first attending, and final relocation — and turned the lessons into a working system Practical, granular logistics most relocation conversations skip: questions to ask movers, contract red flags, two-truck transfers, and the realities of long-distance moving company subcontracting A hosting tip from real life: schedule a birthday party two weeks after move-in and watch every box get unpacked A frank look at how a chaotic move imprints on a home — and why a calm, planned arrival changes the energy of the space you're walking into A sister-podcast collaboration with The Medcommon and Moving Medicine Partners for matching-season residents who need help relocating, finding housing, and rebuilding community About the Guest Lisa Alemi is the founder of Move Mama Move and a physician spouse who has relocated across San Francisco, Seattle, Kansas City, and Los Angeles over the course of her husband’s general surgery training and attending career. Now done with training and settled in LA, Lisa knows firsthand how long it can take to find community after each move — and how much of that depends on creating a home that actually works for the family living in it. After cross-country moving with a six-month-old and finding nothing online comprehensive enough to actually use, she built the planner she had been searching for. Today, Move Mama Move offers three versions of the planner — a Relocation Planner, a Home Search & Relocation Planner, and a premium gift edition — all designed to take the guesswork, anxiety, and emotional cost out of physician-family moves so families can show up to their next home feeling grounded instead of frayed. Connect with Lisa 🛠 Brand: Move Mama Move 🛒 Shop: shop.movemamamove.com 📸 Instagram: @move_mama_move ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation — not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: movingmedicinepartners.com 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and a real estate agent based in St. Louis who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close — and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone.

This episode is sponsored by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions — especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you're making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that's built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob — http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Episode Summary Leslie Mathews has worn a lot of hats — brain injury speech pathologist, attorney, health administrator, photographer, physician spouse, and now therapist, coach, and podcast host. Her path through her now ex-husband's training years, a relocation to the Tampa Bay area for his first attending role, and the long process of rebuilding her own career on the other side of divorce is a story most physician families will recognize: the year apart while one spouse went ahead, the rushed home purchase that became a years-long renovation, and the slow erosion of identity that comes when a hard-earned career gets shelved for the family's needs. Now based in St. Petersburg, Florida and working with women navigating divorce, career pivots, and trauma recovery, Leslie talks openly about what she'd do differently — and what she wants every physician spouse to hear. Host Zoe Taylor and Leslie cover the residency-era condo purchase, the site-unseen pressure of the first attending move, the gutted Florida house that nearly broke them, and the grief of selling a home you raised your kids in. They cover: Why a one-year geographic separation between training and the first attending year is one of the most underestimated risks in physician relocation The 'we'll just gut it' trap — buying a home before you know the city, the contractors, or the climate Why physician families often buy too fast at the attending stage, and the average tenure at a first job that should change the math The identity erosion of the physician spouse — and the body's quiet warning signs (inflammation, autoimmune flares, migraines) that something is off Buying a house to feel rooted, and how a major renovation can pile pressure onto a family already running on fumes Grieving the family home: why selling can feel like a third party in a divorce, and why it's often the cleanest path forward How nervous-system literacy and modalities like EMDR and Internal Family Systems are changing the way she works with couples and individuals What Makes This Episode Different A physician spouse who has lived every stage — the training years, multiple fellowships, the geographic split, the attending-year reset, and the rebuild on the other side A therapist's lens on the real estate decisions physician families make under pressure — and the ones they later wish they could undo Honest talk about the 'doctor's wife' identity, the loneliness behind the curated life, and why 'at least you have a beautiful house' is the wrong response A reframing of the home as a nervous-system regulator — what it means when parts of your house feel peaceful and parts don't Practical guidance for spouses standing at a crossroads, whether that's a career pivot, a relocation, or a season of personal reinvention About the Guest Leslie Mathews is a licensed psychotherapist, non-practicing attorney, and host of the Pulling Threads podcast. She began her career as a speech therapist specializing in brain injury and trauma before pivoting into healthcare law, earning a JD and a Master's in Health Administration from Saint Louis University. After fifteen years of marriage to an interventional cardiologist and a season of stepping back from her career to raise her family, Leslie returned to school during her divorce — pursuing training in health coaching, mindfulness, and clinical social work, and earning her MSW. Today, based in St. Petersburg, Florida, Leslie runs The LooM Life, where she offers therapy, coaching, and a unique form of divorce support. She works with women going through divorce and big life transitions, as well as physician and physician-spouse clients navigating the pressures of medical careers and family life. Her clinical work draws on EMDR, Internal Family Systems (IFS), mindfulness, and polyvagal theory. Her mission, in her own words: to help people live more peaceful, grounded lives. Connect with Leslie 🎙️ Podcast: Pulling Threads 🏢 Practice: The LooM Life 📍 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida 🌐 Website: theloomlife.com 📸 Instagram: @the.loom.life 🎵 TikTok: @parandpeace 💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lesliemathewsmsw ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation — not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: movingmedicinepartners.com 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and a real estate agent based in St. Louis who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close — and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone.

This episode is sponsored by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions — especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you're making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that's built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob — truist.com/bob.hall — Episode Summary Mollie Marsh's path to real estate didn't start with real estate — it started with a college marriage, a stretch of years putting her husband through medical school in Charleston, and a season as a stay-at-home mom during ER residency in Ohio. Her husband had been encouraging her to get her real estate license for years. She finally said yes when her youngest was about to start kindergarten. Her only regret? Not doing it sooner. Now an attending-stage physician family settled in the Dayton/Cincinnati area, Mollie and her husband have traded in their plan to move back south for the community they've built in Ohio. She serves physician families across the region through NavX Realty, bringing the firsthand understanding only a physician wife can. In this episode, Zoe and Mollie talk about the realities of relocating during residency, the financial myths about doctors that deserve to be broken, and how raising a child with Down syndrome reshaped the way Mollie runs her business and connects with clients. They cover: Buying a home site-unseen for residency — and why that's still one of the hardest parts of the medical move Why pricing, not location, is now the bigger challenge for Dayton-area physician families The myth that physicians have it all financially figured out — and what the journey actually costs How raising a son with Down syndrome shaped Mollie's business philosophy and client relationships The surprise of falling in love with Ohio after planning to return south What it's like to pivot from teacher to stay-at-home mom to realtor — and why her only regret was waiting Serving physician families as someone who has lived every stage of the journey with them What Makes This Episode Different A physician spouse and realtor who has walked the full arc — undergrad, med school, residency, attending — and speaks from every season Real talk about the financial reality of becoming a doctor and why the 'doctors are rich' assumption gets in the way of smart decisions A family-first lens shaped by raising a child with Down syndrome — and how that honesty translates into client relationships An honest case for the Dayton/Cincinnati area as a long-term home for physician families, even for those who planned to leave A former teacher (and former children's magician) who brings warmth, patience, and a genuine service mindset to every transaction About the Guest Mollie Marsh is a licensed real estate agent with NavX Realty, serving the Springboro, Ohio area and the greater Dayton/Cincinnati region. She is married to an ER physician and has walked the full medical journey alongside him — from undergrad in Greenville, SC, through medical school in Charleston, residency in Ohio, and now into the attending years. Before real estate, Mollie taught school while her husband was in medical school, and later stayed home with her three boys during his residency. Her oldest son has Down syndrome, an experience that has deeply shaped how she connects with families navigating the chaos of life and relocation. Mollie is known for her grounded, honest approach — bringing both the empathy of someone who has lived it and the professionalism of someone who takes the work of serving medical families seriously. Connect with Mollie 🏢 Brokerage: NavX Realty 📍 Location: Springboro, OH (Dayton/Cincinnati area) 🌐 Website: molliemarsh.com 📸 Instagram: @healthyhomesohio 📘 Facebook: Mollie Marsh ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation — not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: movingmedicinepartners.com 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close — and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone.

This episode is sponsored by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions — especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you're making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that's built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob — http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Episode Summary Tundi Brady has lived the physician spouse journey from the beginning — from dating her husband through undergrad in Boulder to following him through medical school, a three-year occupational medicine residency, and eventually putting down roots in Iowa City in 1998. She never left. Neither did her love of the city. In this episode, Zoe and Tundi dig into what makes Iowa City such a surprisingly strong market for relocating physician families, how the university shapes everything from real estate cycles to school options, and why the 20-minute rule changes every assumption you might bring from a bigger city. They cover: Why Iowa City feels like 'Boulder brought down a notch' — and why that's a compliment The real estate cycle driven by Match Day and what the third Friday of March means for buyers and sellers Average home prices (~$325K) and what a resident's salary (~$68K) actually qualifies for in this market Iowa City's school landscape: 17 elementary schools, three high schools, private options, and an unusually strong homeschool support program through the public system The rental challenge — why August 1st lease starts don't line up with residency timelines and what to do about it Iowa Medical Partners: a spouse/partner social organization founded in 1945 that also lists rentals Why buying beats renting financially for anyone staying three years or more Physician loan options through local lenders for residents coming straight out of med school The food scene, weather, pool season, and everything Californians need to prepare for What Makes This Episode Different A physician spouse who bought into Iowa City as a skeptic and never looked back — giving the honest, firsthand version A real breakdown of the rental market mismatch and practical workarounds for incoming residents Insight into Iowa Medical Partners, a resource most incoming families have never heard of Frank talk on what 'affordable Midwest market' actually looks like at the ground level, with real numbers Why the 20-minute rule flips the neighborhood decision entirely — commute time doesn't matter here About the Guest Tundi Brady is a Realtor with Urban Acres in Iowa City, Iowa, with 12 years in real estate and decades of firsthand experience as a physician spouse. Her husband is an occupational medicine physician who completed his residency at the University of Iowa — and the family never left. Tundi is one of the most well-connected agents in the Iowa City physician community, actively working to match incoming residents and attendings with rentals, purchases, and the support networks they need to settle in quickly. She is a long-standing member and sponsor of Iowa Medical Partners, the physician spouse and partner organization that has served the University of Iowa medical community since 1945. Connect with Tundi 🏢 Brokerage: Urban Acres 📍 Location: Iowa City, IA 🌐 Iowa Medical Partners: Iowa Medical Partners About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation — not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close — and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone.

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Episode Summary Before Matt Humphrey was showing homes to Mayo Clinic residents and fellows, he was playing high-stakes poker professionally for nearly two decades. That background — reading people, managing risk, staying even-keeled under pressure — turned out to be the perfect foundation for real estate in a city where the stakes feel personal. In this episode, Zoe and Matt dig into what makes Rochester, MN such a distinct real estate market, how physician relocation actually works at the ground level, and why the skills it takes to be a great agent are a lot closer to poker than most people realize. They cover: Why Rochester's rental market often costs more than buying — and what that means for residents and fellows who think they're 'just here for three years' The condo crisis downtown and what makes a purchase un-warrantable How the Elton Hills neighborhood became a sweet spot for incoming medical families The $4 billion Destination Medical Center project and what it might mean for the market Why attendings fall into the 'big girl money' house trap — and how to avoid it What the 100/0 principle looks like in a service-driven business Matt's Rochester Relocation Guide website and how it helps families land before they ever get on a plane What Makes This Episode Different A professional poker player's take on real estate negotiation — and why it's not about the poker face An honest breakdown of Rochester's condo market and the risks most buyers don't know about Real talk on lifestyle creep and the 'you deserve this' spiral that catches new attendings off guard Why proximity to Mayo doesn't matter the way people think — because you're always close The 100/0 mindset: give everything, expect nothing, and still know your limits About the Guest Matt Humphrey is a Rochester, MN-based real estate agent with Engel & Völkers and the creator of RochesterRelocationGuide.com. After 18 years as a professional poker player — living in Denver, Miami, and eventually landing in Rochester when his wife matched at Mayo Clinic for her maternal fetal medicine fellowship — Matt transitioned into real estate and built a niche serving the physician community. His edge isn't just local knowledge. It's the ability to read people, manage high-stakes decisions without ego, and show up for clients on their schedule — not his. He's also a co-founder of Isabel's Impact, a foundation built to support families navigating the unimaginable. Connect with Matt 🌐 Website: RochesterRelocationGuide.com 📧 Email: [email protected] 📞 Phone: 507-513-8167 📍 Location: Rochester, MN 📸 Instagram: @matthew_humphrey_ 💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/matthew-humphrey-relocation-expert About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation — not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close — and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone.

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Most real estate agents help you buy a house. Christian Beca used to decide where physicians would build their careers. That difference shows up immediately in this conversation. Before stepping into real estate, Christian spent 15+ years inside physician recruitment—working directly with hospitals, negotiating placements, and guiding doctors through one of the most disruptive transitions of their lives: relocation. Now, he’s on the other side of that same moment—helping physicians land not just the job, but the life that comes with it. In this episode, Zoe and Christian unpack what most people miss about physician moves: It’s not just about the offer—it’s about the ecosystem. They break down how Raleigh quietly became a magnet for physicians, why the Triangle (Duke, UNC, Chapel Hill) creates a unique housing dynamic, and how your hospital system often dictates your lifestyle more than your salary. But where this episode really hits is strategy. Christian walks through what he’s seeing in real time: Residents stretching into homeownership earlier than expected Physicians leveraging location to build equity fast And how small geographic decisions (literally 20–30 minutes apart) can completely change your day-to-day life What Makes This Episode Different A recruiter’s perspective on relocation—not just a realtor’s Why Raleigh isn’t just “growing”—it’s strategically attracting physicians The real reason Duke vs. UNC matters for where you live How physician moves are driven by lifestyle fit—not just compensation Why early homeownership during residency is becoming more common (and smarter)  About the Guest Christian Beca is a Raleigh-based real estate agent with The Coley Group and a former physician recruiter who spent over 15 years placing doctors across the country. After building and selling his recruitment company, he transitioned into real estate—bringing a rare, insider understanding of how physicians make relocation decisions. Today, he specializes in helping physicians navigate moves into the Raleigh-Durham area, combining market expertise with firsthand knowledge of the medical hiring landscape.  🌐 Website: thecoleygroup.com 📧 Email: [email protected] 📞 Phone: (214) 901-6354 📍 Location: Raleigh, NC 📸 Instagram: @christian.beca | @gretchencoleygroup 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-beca-67537b94 About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone.  Learn more…

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Relocating to New York City isn’t just a move—it’s a complete shift in how you live, spend, and make decisions. In this episode of Moving Medicine, Zoe Taylor is joined by Ryan Garson, a New York City-based real estate agent and entrepreneur, to unpack what physician families should realistically expect when entering one of the most competitive housing markets in the country. Ryan walks through the structure of NYC real estate—from co-ops and condos to rentals—and explains why financial requirements, board approvals, and limited inventory can make the process more complex than most markets physicians are used to. They discuss the importance of proximity to work, lifestyle tradeoffs, and what it actually looks like to raise a family in New York City. The conversation also shifts into Ryan’s entrepreneurial approach and how he’s leveraging artificial intelligence to improve efficiency, enhance client communication, and create content at scale. From custom GPT workflows to automation tools, Ryan shares how AI is becoming a competitive advantage in modern business. This episode is both a practical guide for physician families considering NYC—and a broader conversation about working smarter in today’s landscape. What You’ll Learn in This Episode What makes NYC real estate fundamentally different The difference between co-ops, condos, and rentals Why physician loans don’t always work in NYC How fast the rental market moves (and how to prepare) Financial requirements and approval processes in NYC buildings The importance of commute and neighborhood fit What it’s like raising a family in New York City Why many families eventually leave Manhattan How AI is transforming real estate and entrepreneurship Tools and workflows Ryan uses to save time and scale About the Guest Ryan Garson is a New York City-based real estate agent with Compass and the founder of the Very Social Broker brand. With over a decade of experience and an entrepreneurial background, Ryan specializes in helping clients—particularly physician families—navigate complex real estate decisions in one of the most competitive markets in the country. Before real estate, Ryan built and scaled multiple businesses, including a high-end puppy boutique franchise with over 10 locations. He now brings that same systems-driven mindset into his real estate business, where he also runs a marketing agency and leads a team focused on strategy, branding, and communication. Ryan is known for his relationship-driven approach, acting as a true knowledge broker for his clients—helping them make informed, confident decisions beyond just the transaction. He is also the author of The AI Agent, a practical playbook on how he uses artificial intelligence to improve efficiency, streamline workflows, and communicate more effectively. 📍 New York, NY 📧 [email protected]  🌐 garsonteam.com  📱 Instagram / TikTok: @verysocialbroker About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — In this continuation of Zoe Taylor’s conversation with physician spouse Laura Noonan, the focus turns to the power—and complexity—of sharing life in medicine publicly. Laura explains how her social media presence began as a way to process the loneliness she experienced during her husband’s residency years. What started as humorous posts about life married to a physician quickly evolved into a growing community of medical spouses who felt seen for the first time. But with visibility also came criticism. Laura opens up about the mixed reactions her content receives—from supportive messages from physician spouses to public backlash questioning the role of medical spouses in modern medicine. Zoe and Laura discuss the stereotypes surrounding physician families, the emotional toll of online criticism, and why it can be difficult for spouses to speak openly about their experiences. They also explore Laura’s newest project—the Med Spouse Manual, a comprehensive guide created to give physician families the support, resources, and perspective she wished existed when her journey began. Together, they reflect on the importance of creating community for physician spouses and making space for honest conversations about the realities of life in medicine. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why Laura started sharing physician spouse life on social media The loneliness many spouses experience during residency The mixed reactions her content receives online Why physician spouse identity can be misunderstood The pressure of public criticism on social media How Laura handled stepping away from social media temporarily The inspiration behind the Med Spouse Manual Why physician families need better support and resources About the Guests Laura Noonan Laura Noonan is a physician spouse based in Nashville, Tennessee, where she and her husband—an infectious disease physician—are raising their family after several relocations throughout medical training and early attending life. Over the course of her husband’s career, Laura has experienced firsthand what it means to build a life around medicine—moving across states, navigating uncertainty, and learning how to create community from scratch. Their journey has taken them through Missouri, New Mexico, and Tennessee, each move bringing new challenges and unexpected rewards. Laura often speaks about the emotional side of relocation that many medical families quietly experience: the unknowns of whether to rent or buy, the difficulty of rebuilding friendships, and the challenge of finding stability when every stage of training brings change. While relocation can be difficult, Laura says the most rewarding part has been discovering community in unexpected places and building friendships across the country along the way. Today, she shares her experiences to help other physician families feel less alone in the process of moving, settling, and building a life in medicine. Instagram: @itslauranoonan About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Relocation is one of the most common experiences in medical families — yet it’s rarely discussed honestly. In this episode, Zoe Taylor welcomes Laura Noonan, who shares her journey navigating life as a physician spouse while moving across the country during residency, fellowship, and early attending life. Laura opens up about meeting her husband during his first year of residency, quickly getting married, and relocating from Washington State to rural Missouri — a move that brought both cultural shock and personal growth. The conversation explores what relocation really feels like when your spouse’s schedule is controlled by training programs, hospital demands, and unpredictable hours. Laura describes the challenge of building community in unfamiliar places while adjusting to a completely different lifestyle than the one she had previously known. Together, Zoe and Laura also discuss: Why physician spouses often experience relocation differently than physicians The emotional impact of moving to small towns during training How community becomes essential when medical schedules dominate family life The surprising personality shifts that can happen after multiple relocations Why building friendships can be harder than expected during training years What You’ll Learn in This Episode What it’s really like to move across the country for medical training Why physician schedules affect the entire household How relocation can create culture shock and social isolation Strategies physician spouses use to build community in new cities Why many families underestimate the emotional side of relocation How medical training shapes personality, relationships, and priorities Why relocation often forces families to redefine what “home” means About the Guests Laura Noonan is a physician spouse based in Nashville, Tennessee, where she and her husband—an infectious disease physician—are raising their family after several relocations throughout medical training and early attending life. Over the course of her husband’s career, Laura has experienced firsthand what it means to build a life around medicine—moving across states, navigating uncertainty, and learning how to create community from scratch. Their journey has taken them through Missouri, New Mexico, and Tennessee, each move bringing new challenges and unexpected rewards. Laura often speaks about the emotional side of relocation that many medical families quietly experience: the unknowns of whether to rent or buy, the difficulty of rebuilding friendships, and the challenge of finding stability when every stage of training brings change. While relocation can be difficult, Laura says the most rewarding part has been discovering community in unexpected places and building friendships across the country along the way. Today, she shares her experiences to help other physician families feel less alone in the process of moving, settling, and building a life in medicine. Instagram: @itslauranoonan About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more… 

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Physicians shouldn’t be settling. Paul shares how his first company (Winow) revealed deep structural issues in physician recruiting — a system driven by speed, vacancy costs, and marketing pitches instead of alignment and transparency That realization led to the creation of Tesselate, a physician-first career navigation platform designed to: Provide transparency into real clinical practice data Protect physician anonymity during exploration Surface alignment beyond salary and geography Offer concierge-style advocacy during negotiation Dr. Jeff Bettag adds the resident perspective — highlighting how physicians are trained extensively in medicine but rarely in contract structure, compensation models, or long-term career strategy Together, the conversation covers: Why compensation alone leads to dissatisfaction The difference between burnout and moral injury How “calling” can paradoxically trap physicians in poor environments Why many physicians feel blind during job selection And how early career guidance can prevent relocation regret What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why post-training job tenure has dropped from 6 years to ~2 years The concept of misalignment vs. burnout How moral injury differs from exhaustion Why physicians often lack career negotiation training The hidden data behind CPT, ICD-10, and procedural distribution How anonymity can protect physicians during job exploration What it means to treat career search like talent representation Why lifestyle alignment matters as much as income How early exposure (even in med school) can shape better decisions About the Guests Paul Vernich Founder & CEO of Tesselate Paul previously founded Winow, an AI-driven physician recruiting company that exposed the systemic inefficiencies in healthcare hiring. After its acquisition by IA Healthcare in 2023, he launched Tesselate with a new mission: To empower physicians directly — not recruiters or health systems — by leveling the informational playing field. Tesselate operates as a physician-first, privacy-protected career navigation platform designed to prevent settling and improve alignment across compensation, culture, autonomy, and clinical scope. 🌐 Website: https://t8health.com Dr. Jeff Bettag Neurology Resident | Vanderbilt University Medical Center Physician Advisor, Tesselate Dr. Jeff Bettag is a first-year neurology resident who joined Tesselate after witnessing firsthand the confusion, fear, and lack of transparency surrounding physician job selection He advocates for restoring physician autonomy, educating residents earlier in training about career realities, and reframing burnout as a systems misalignment issue. (Note: Views expressed are his own.) About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall —- Des Moines isn’t flashy — but it offers something many high-demand cities don’t: accessibility, manageable cost of living, strong physician demand, and an easy lifestyle. Andrea Quann is married to a general surgeon, and since medical school they’ve relocated multiple times — Iowa City, Des Moines (residency), Dubuque, Wilmington, NC, and back again. They’ve rented, built, bought land, sold quickly, and learned hard financial lessons along the way. Now a licensed real estate agent with Re/Max Precision, Andrea specializes in helping physician families relocate with clarity — especially when time is limited and stakes are high. In this episode, Andrea shares: What it’s really like moving cross-country twice in under a year Why physicians should think twice before rushing into a home purchase Lessons learned from buying a spec home and land during attending years The reality of Des Moines’ market (including surprising million-dollar inventory) Why Midwest cities are often more insulated from national real estate swings What makes Des Moines “easy” to live in How to build community as a physician spouse Why listening matters more than selling in real estate This conversation blends practical relocation advice with honest reflections on marriage, medical call schedules, raising kids through residency, and choosing lifestyle alignment over hype. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why Des Moines can feel like a “hidden gem” for physicians Average home prices in Des Moines (around $330K) What $1M+ inventory currently looks like in this market How Midwest markets differ from coastal real estate cycles Commute realities (20 minutes almost anywhere) The pros and cons of buying during early attending years Why not rushing a purchase can be strategic The emotional load physician spouses carry during relocation How to evaluate a city beyond compensation alone The importance of researching and interviewing real estate agents About the Guest Andrea Quann is a licensed real estate agent with Re/Max Precision based in Des Moines, Iowa. She is married to a general surgeon and has personally navigated medical school, residency, attending transitions, private practice shifts, and cross-country moves. Before becoming a realtor, Andrea worked in healthcare marketing and web design for a large health system, collaborating closely with residency and fellowship programs. Those experiences — combined with handling four relocations of her own — shaped her mission: To make relocation easier and far less stressful for doctors and their families, especially when time is limited and the stakes are high. Connect with Andrea 📍 Des Moines, Iowa 📧 [email protected] 📞 515-419-1494 🌐 http://andreaquannrealtor.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreaquannrealtor/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-quann-95b75430a/ About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: [email protected] About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning.If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers.You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall—-Milwaukee may not be flashy — but it offers something many high-demand cities don’t: stability, affordability, strong physician reimbursement, and a high quality of life.Traci Kurtin, a longtime Milwaukee resident and wife of a joint replacement orthopedic surgeon, shares her family’s full-circle journey — from medical school and residency at the Medical College of Wisconsin, to fellowship in Utah, private practice in Arizona, and ultimately returning to Milwaukee to put down permanent roots.Traci opens up about:Growing up in Tucson and adjusting to Midwest winters (including her convertible-in-black-ice story)What makes Milwaukee surprisingly vibrant — beaches, walkability, food, arts, and access to ChicagoWhy cost of living matters more than just salary when evaluating a physician contractHow real estate decisions affect emotional stability and family lifeThe invisible load physician spouses carry during training and relocationWhy choosing the right community matters just as much as choosing the right houseThis conversation blends practical relocation insight with honest reflections on marriage, career transitions, motherhood, and finding fulfillment beyond medicine.What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy Milwaukee is often called the “Third Coast”Average home price ranges in Milwaukee and surrounding suburbsWhat winters are actually like (and whether you need AWD)Public transportation and commuting options — including Chicago accessThe difference between measurable contract perks and lifestyle fitHow HGTV culture has impacted home buying decisionsWhy physician families should evaluate intangibles before relocatingWhat makes Wisconsin especially physician-friendly (malpractice climate + reimbursement)How to build community as a physician spouseWhy empathy and big-picture thinking matter in relocation decisionsAbout the GuestTraci Kurtin is a licensed real estate agent with Keller Williams based in Milwaukee, WisconsinShe is married to a joint replacement orthopedic surgeon and has personally experienced every stage of the medical journey — from medical school and residency to fellowship, private practice, and employed physician life.After spending years as a stay-at-home mom raising four children and volunteering deeply in her community, Traci returned to the workforce and found her calling in real estate in 2012. Her mission is simple:Connecting people to their homes and communities.She specializes in helping physician families navigate relocation with clarity, balance, and long-term lifestyle alignment — not just quick transactions.Connect with Traci📍 Milwaukee, Wisconsin📧 [email protected]📞 262-957-0388🌐 https://kurtin-realty.com📸 Instagram: @kurtin.ryba.groupAbout the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected] the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more… 

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning.If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers.You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall—-January came, and the “floodgates opened”—buyers who waited through uncertainty are stepping back into the market. Zoe and Sylva kick off with what they’re seeing in real time: more families moving forward even if rates aren’t perfect, because goals and life don’t pause forever.Sylva shares how she entered real estate because she was a med spouse—after buying their Indianapolis home from Los Angeles (sight unseen) and realizing how much the right home supports residency life. Together, they talk through what good relocation support actually looks like: video tours that capture the street, not just the kitchen, using Google Street View to “walk” a neighborhood from afar, and why listening to what clients want matters more than pushing them toward someone else’s version of “ideal.”One of the most powerful parts of the conversation is Sylva’s explanation of how a home can regulate (or dysregulate) you—especially during training. They share a real example of how a mismanaged apartment building became a full-blown stress crisis for an intern, and why “renting is safer” isn’t always true. The episode also gets practical: physician loans (and the marketing traps to watch for), Indy commute and lifestyle options, school choice, biking/public transit, and how med families can build community when the physician has built-in “hospital people”… and the spouse often doesn’t.What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy the January market shift can feel like the “switch flipped” after the holidaysThe real reality of buying sight unseen—and how to do it safelyHow to use Google Street View and video tours to evaluate a neighborhood from afarWhy housing decisions “live in your nervous system” (and what that actually means)A cautionary story: when a “convenient” apartment becomes a residency-level stressorThe hidden emotional load of the non-medical spouse during training and early attending yearsPhysician loans: what varies by lender, what to watch for, and how “physician loan” can be a marketing labelIndianapolis lifestyle basics: commute flexibility, walkable pockets, school choice, biking trails, and public transitCommunity-building strategies for med spouses who don’t automatically get a built-in cohortAbout the GuestSylva Zhang is a licensed real estate agent with MedMatch Realty Group with @properties in Indianapolis, Indiana, and she specializes in helping relocating and transitioning physicians find a home (and a rhythm) that actually supports their season of life.Her path into real estate started as a med spouse—she and her husband bought their Indianapolis home from across the country while finishing med school at UCLA, and that experience showed her how vulnerable (and high-stakes) relocation can be during match and early training. Sylva now brings a grounded, advocacy-first approach to helping medical families put down roots in Indy—centered on clarity, not pressure.Her mission: Helping doctors put down roots in Indy that allow them to grow and thrive while they’re here.Connect with SylvaCompany: MedMatch Realty Group with @propertiesWebsite: www.indymatch.comEmail: [email protected]: 812-360-7428Instagram: @pedalindyLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/pedalindyAbout the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected] the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more… 

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning.If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers.You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall—-Relocating for a medical career isn’t just about matching—it’s about quality of life, affordability, and choosing a place that fits the season of life you’re in.Yolima shares her journey from civil engineering into real estate after relocating to Tucson with her husband, a primary care physician. Together, she and Zoe unpack what physician families often overlook when choosing where to live: commute realities, neighborhood personality, cost of living vs. salary, and how real estate decisions can quietly shape financial freedom.They also explore why Tucson is frequently overlooked—and why that might be a mistake. From sunshine and outdoor living to strong physician salaries and relative affordability, the conversation highlights how smaller, less-hyped cities can offer more space, flexibility, and opportunity than expected.The episode also dives into physician loans, residency-friendly housing markets, HOAs, and how physician spouses can play an active role in wealth-building through real estate and tax strategy.What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy Tucson often gets overlooked—and why it deserves a second lookWhat relocating from a high-cost state (like New Jersey) to Arizona actually feels likeHow Yolima’s civil engineering background gives her unique “product knowledge” in real estateDifferences between urban vs. suburban living within TucsonWhat residents and attendings can realistically afford in the Tucson housing marketHow physician loan products work—and what to watch out forWhy lifestyle fit matters as much as proximity to the hospitalHow physician spouses can contribute to financial strategy through real estate and tax planningThe role of bonus depreciation and real estate professional status for medical familiesAbout the GuestYolima Mulligan is a Tucson-based real estate professional with a unique background in civil engineering and construction. After spending over six years in engineering, Yolima recognized she wanted to build a career rooted in connection, impact, and work she genuinely loved. That pivot came naturally when she and her husband—now a practicing primary care physician—were searching for a rental and investment property, sparking her transition into real estate.Having personally relocated from the NJ/NYC area to Tucson, Yolima understands the emotional and logistical challenges medical families face when moving to an unfamiliar city. She now specializes in helping physicians and their families navigate relocation to Southern Arizona, providing curated guidance on neighborhoods, schools, lifestyle priorities, and investment opportunities.With a strong presence on social media, Yolima is known for sharing practical, on-the-ground insight into what life in Tucson actually looks like—helping relocating families feel informed, supported, and confident every step of the way.Connect with Yolima MulliganIf you’re considering a move to Tucson—or want real, on-the-ground insight into neighborhoods, lifestyle, and real estate options—Yolima is incredibly approachable and easy to connect with.🌵 Website:https://www.yolimasellshomes.com📸 Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/yolimamulligan🎵 TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@yolimamulligan💼 LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/yolima-mulligan-executive-mba-8841a381/📧 Email:[email protected]📞 Phone:520-222-7398Yolima is highly active on social media and welcomes DMs—especially from physician families navigating relocation to Southern Arizona.About the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected] the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning.If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers.You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall—Relocating for medicine often looks straightforward on paper—but in practice, it’s anything but.In this episode, Zoe Taylor speaks with Tony Mattar, a Chicago-based real estate broker with over a decade of experience and deep ties to physician homebuyers. Together, they explore what makes Chicago uniquely complex for medical families: segmented neighborhoods, brutal traffic patterns, physician loan strategy, residency vs. attending priorities, and how lifestyle decisions today ripple years into the future.Tony shares his journey from office administrator to managing broker to Compass team lead, offering rare insight into how real estate functions as both a business and a long-term life strategy. Drawing on his experience working with residents, fellows, and attendings—as well as buying his own home with a physician loan—Tony explains how to avoid short-sighted decisions that can quietly erode quality of life.This conversation goes beyond listings and price points. It’s about understanding how commute times affect burnout, why Chicago’s market can’t be generalized, and how the right guidance helps physician families buy with clarity—not pressure.What You’ll Hear in This EpisodeWhy Chicago real estate can’t be treated as a single marketThe reality of commute times—and why distance lies in ChicagoHow residents can buy strategically (even on limited income)Physician loans vs. conventional loans: when each makes senseWhy many medical families rent first before buying in ChicagoHow lifestyle creep sneaks in through “desirable” neighborhoodsWhy trust and specialization matter when physicians choose advisorsHow Tony helps couples navigate misaligned priorities during home buyingWhat makes Illinois real estate different (attorney-based transactions)Long-term thinking: buying with future flexibility in mindAbout the GuestTony Mattar is a Chicago-based real estate broker and founder of the Chicago Crib Team at Compass. With 12+ years in the industry, Tony has worked across boutique brokerages, team models, and independent firms—giving him a rare, comprehensive understanding of Chicago’s housing market.Tony specializes in helping physicians and medical families relocate with intention, clarity, and long-term strategy. He is also a former Division I swimmer at Northwestern University and qualified for the U.S. Olympic Trials.📧 Email: [email protected]📸 Instagram (personal): @tmattar🏙 Team: @chicagocrib🏙 Website: chicagocrib.comAbout the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected] the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more… 

This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning.If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers.You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall—-There’s a phrase many physician families cling to during training: “It gets better.”But what happens when it doesn’t?In this episode, Zoe Taylor is joined by Kendra Harvey, founder of It Gets Better Now and a life coach who works exclusively with physician spouses. Together, they explore why so many families feel blindsided after residency or fellowship ends—and why waiting for life to “finally feel better” often leads to resentment, burnout, and disconnection.Kendra shares her personal story of navigating neurosurgery training, multiple relocations, and the realization that the promised relief at the end of training never arrived. Instead, she explains, you have to get better—by building skills, communication, boundaries, and self-awareness long before the attending job begins.This conversation goes beyond housing logistics and dives into the unseen labor of physician spouses: carrying households, managing finances, suppressing needs, relocating repeatedly, and quietly losing parts of themselves in the process. Zoe and Kendra discuss why these patterns don’t resolve on their own—and how early support can fundamentally change the trajectory of a medical family’s life.This episode is about relocation as a life transition, not just a move—and why relationships, identity, and mental health matter just as much as contracts and commute times.What You’ll Hear in This EpisodeWhy “it gets better” is often the most misleading promise in medicineThe identity crisis many physician spouses face after training endsHow unspoken resentment builds during residency and fellowshipWhy suppressing your needs feels necessary—but causes long-term damageThe emotional cost of repeated relocation and starting overWhy buying a house doesn’t fix deeper relationship strainWhen physician spouses should seek coaching or support (hint: earlier than you think)How communication patterns formed in training follow couples into attending lifeWhy community and shared language matter for physician familiesAbout the GuestKendra Harvey is a certified life coach, physician spouse, and founder of It Gets Better Now, a coaching practice dedicated to supporting physician spouses through medical training, relocation, and beyond. Certified through The Life Coach School with advanced training in faith-based coaching, habit creation, and rest-centered frameworks, Kendra brings both lived experience and professional expertise to her work.She is also the co-host of the Supporting Physician Spouses podcast, where she offers honest conversations for families navigating the realities of medical life—without minimizing the emotional toll.🌐 Website: https://itgetsbetternow.com📸 Instagram: @kendra_itgetsbetternow🎙 Podcast: Supporting Physician SpousesAbout the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected] the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more… 

This episode is sponsored by Bob Hall at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning.If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers.You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall—-There’s a moment in every medical move when the excitement of a new opportunity collides with reality.It’s when price points don’t align with expectations.When commute time becomes a daily tax on family life.When a contract says “as-is,” but negotiations are anything but simple.This episode starts there.Zoe Taylor is joined by Guillermo Freixas, a Miami native, long-time real estate professional, and husband to a physician, whose work centers on helping people understand Miami beyond the highlight reel. Guillermo shares what it’s really like to relocate as a medical family—whether you’re arriving for residency, stepping into an attending role, or considering Miami later in your career.Together, they explore:Why Miami functions as dozens of micro-markets—not oneHow residents and attendings face very different housing constraintsWhat physician families often underestimate about insurance, condos, and inspectionsWhy content-driven real estate culture can be misleadingHow trust, transparency, and local insight protect families from costly mistakes This isn’t about finding a dream house.It’s about choosing a city—and a lifestyle—you can actually live with.What You’ll Hear in This Episode🏙 Why Miami is one of the most competitive—and misunderstood—medical relocation markets🏡 Housing realities for residents vs. attendings⏱ How traffic and commute patterns quietly shape daily life💰 Median price points and what they really get you in Miami🏢 Condo buying pitfalls, HOA fees, and Florida-specific challenges🌀 Four-point inspections, insurance hurdles, and why deals fall apart🤝 How being married to a physician changes how Guillermo works with clients📍 Why hyper-local knowledge matters more than social media credibilityAbout the GuestGuillermo Freixas is a Miami native, Compass real estate agent, and founder of My Block Miami, a content platform focused on the history, neighborhoods, and realities of living in South Florida. Married to a physician and surrounded by family in medicine, Guillermo brings rare insight into the pressures medical families face when relocating—especially in a high-cost, high-competition market like Miami.He is known for his hyper-local expertise, candid commentary, and commitment to helping families make informed, sustainable decisions.📸 Instagram and everywhere: @myblockmiamiAbout the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected]

There’s a moment in every medical move where the search stops being practical and starts becoming personal.It happens when commute times begin to compete with dinner routines. When school districts feel heavier than square footage. When one partner is thinking about call schedules while the other is trying to imagine whether this place could feel like home.This episode begins there.Zoe Taylor and Lauren Swoboda talk candidly about what it really means to buy a home in Tampa as a medical family—through the lens of residency moves, attending transitions, dual-income realities, and the often-invisible labor carried by physician spouses.Lauren brings both professional expertise and lived experience, having navigated medical training moves alongside her physician husband while repeatedly rebuilding her own career across states. Together, they explore Tampa as a medical hub, the neighborhoods physicians gravitate toward, and why “where we live” so often becomes shorthand for deeper questions about lifestyle, identity, and sustainability.This isn’t a conversation about finding the perfect house.It’s about making a decision your family can live inside—long after the boxes are unpacked.What You’ll Hear in This Episode🏡How buying during residency differs from buying as an attending⏱ Why commute time quietly shapes family life more than most people expect📍Tampa neighborhoods medical families are drawn to—and why💰Realistic price points and dual-income considerations🏢Condo buying explained (warrantable vs. non-warrantable, in plain language)🌀Florida-specific insurance hurdles and four-point inspections🤝Navigating compromise between physician and spouse priorities🌱Why community often matters more than the house itselfGuest BioLauren Swoboda is a Tampa-based realtor with nearly two decades of experience—and a deep, lived understanding of what medical families face when relocating.Lauren met her husband at 18 and has walked through every stage of the medical journey alongside him: medical school, residency, fellowship, and attending life. With each move, she rebuilt her own career—earning real estate licenses in Florida and the Washington, D.C. region—while navigating the realities of frequent relocation, shifting priorities, and the invisible labor often carried by physician spouses.Today, Lauren works primarily with physicians, trainees, and healthcare professionals moving to the Tampa area. Her work goes far beyond buying and selling homes. She helps families think through commute realities, neighborhood fit, insurance hurdles, condo complexities, and the quieter lifestyle decisions that shape daily life long after closing day.Grounded, candid, and community-driven, Lauren is known for helping medical families find not just a house—but a place that genuinely supports the life they’re building.Connect with Lauren📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauren_swoboda🏡 Compass Profile: https://www.compass.com/agents/lauren-swoboda/About the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more… About the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected]

There is a particular kind of exhaustion that settles into a medical family long before the boxes are packed.It shows up in quiet evenings and crowded spreadsheets. In cities compared side by side. In school districts studied like case law. In the steady attempt to make the right decision with incomplete information—because medicine rarely offers certainty, only timelines.When a family moves for medicine, the change does not stay contained. It reaches into daily rituals, friendships, children’s sense of belonging, and the unspoken agreements that hold a household together. It asks spouses to become researchers, translators, emotional anchors—often without language for the weight they’re carrying.This work begins there.Not with answers, but with attention.With the understanding that choosing a place to live is never only about geography. It is about who you are allowed to become in that place. How your family breathes. Whether the pace of life aligns with the values you’re trying to protect.Here, medical moves are examined not as transactions, but as thresholds. As moments that require discernment, patience, and an honest reckoning with what matters most.This is a space for families standing at the edge of a decision that will echo for years—and for those who know that home is not found by accident, but built, deliberately, over time.About the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: [email protected] the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…