Natural Obsession Podcast

Come along with us for the second part of this two part episode with Professors of Psychology Dr. Jennifer Penney and Dr. Carmen Merrick! Learn with us as they talk about their research on nature connectedness and how it benefits us psychologically.Have you ever noticed how a short walk can flip your whole day? We lean into that reality with a deep, practical look at nature connectedness—what it is, how psychologists measure it, and why it consistently boosts mood, attention, creativity, and resilience. Dr. Jennifer Penner and Dr. Carmen Merrick, unpack the difference between “time outside” and the felt sense of belonging to a living community, then connect the dots between physiology, behavior, and culture so you can actually use this science.We dig into the everyday choices that make reconnection possible. From the power of birdsongs and window views when you can’t get outside to why thirty minutes outside often hits the sweet spot for stress relief and focus—the message is refreshingly doable. You’ll hear how campuses and workplaces can nudge healthier defaults with outdoor classes, walking meetings, and simple green spaces, and how group conservation projects convert climate anxiety into meaningful action and renewed agency.Along the way, we talk equity in green space, ADHD and executive function benefits from outdoor time, and the culture change needed to loosen our dependence on screens. This is a hopeful, grounded guide to living slower and rewilding daily life without leaving your job or your city—one windowsill planter, lunch-break walk, and neighborhood project at a time.If this conversation sparks something, tap follow, share with a friend who needs a reset, and leave a quick review to help more people find the show.To learn more about our guests this episode click the links below:Dr. Jennifer PennerDr. Carmen Merrick_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

In this first of two episodes, we sit down with Dr. Jennifer Penner and Dr. Carmen Merrick, psychology professors at Hendrix College, to explore how time in nature can calm the mind, restore balance, and reconnect us to what matters most.From classrooms in Arkansas to fieldwork in Costa Rica, Jenn and Carmen study how the outdoors shapes memory, emotion, and well-being. We talk about why students feel more anxious than ever, how nature helps us slow down, and what it means to find wholeness in a busy, distracted world.Whether you’re a parent, student, or anyone trying to live slower and more intentionally, this conversation will remind you that we were made for the wild.Learn more about their work at Hendrix College:Dr. Jennifer PennerDr. Carmen Merrick_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

From her first deer hunt at just one week old to harvesting a mountain goat after months of scouting steep Colorado terrain with her teenage son, Hillery Edinger carries forward a rich family legacy of hunting and outdoor living. She’s a fourth-generation outdoorswoman whose life centers around the land—and what it provides.Hillery shares stories of her grandmother who took down 31 bull elk during her lifetime, carefully documenting each harvest with photos and handwritten notes that now serve as family heirlooms and hunting wisdom.This conversation pulls us into what it means to truly live off the land in modern America. Hillery and her family of four rarely purchase meat from stores, instead filling their freezer with ethically harvested game—from elk and deer to mountain lion and even invasive iguanas hunted during a family trip to Puerto Rico. She uses every part of the animals she harvests, turning bear fat into pie crusts and elk tallow into soaps and balms.But it’s not just about the food. Hillery speaks to the connection, resilience, and presence that the hunting lifestyle has built into her family. Her sons are learning to call in elk, butcher meat, and notice the rhythms of the wild—skills that go far beyond the woods.As she puts it:“I don’t have a fear of them ever having a hard time feeding themselves. No matter what the world turns into, they should be able to put meat on their plate.”This episode is part of our Season 2 theme: Live Slow, Re-Wild—a return to what matters.🎧 Listen now and hear what a life lived close to the land really looks like.—Follow Hillery on Instagram:@change_altitude_seek_adventurehttps://www.instagram.com/change_altitude_seek_adventure_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Imagine gripping onto a rock face, your focus narrowed to just your next move, the world's noise fading into silence. For JD Borgeson of the Arkansas Climbing Coalition, this mental clarity represents rock climbing's greatest gift—a complete escape from our distracted modern lives into pure presence."When you're climbing, you're thinking about how tired you are, where you are on the climb, what your next move is," JD explains. "You really don't have an opportunity to think of much else." This natural flow state aligns perfectly with our season's "Live Slow, Rewild" theme, as climbing strips away digital distractions and reconnects us with our most fundamental human capabilities.Arkansas might surprise you as a climbing destination, yet it offers world-class opportunities without the crowds found in more famous locations. From epic multi-pitch adventures to accessible urban crags, the state's diverse climbing landscape caters to all skill levels. JD walks us through the different climbing styles—bouldering, sport climbing, and traditional climbing—while emphasizing the sport's accessibility: "If you can climb a ladder, you can absolutely climb a rock."The Arkansas Climbing Coalition's work extends beyond simply promoting the sport. Their mission centers on preserving access to existing climbing areas through sustainable trail maintenance and hardware replacement, while also opening new areas like Crystal Bluff in North Little Rock. This urban crag development represents a rare achievement in climbing accessibility, bringing approximately 100 routes within minutes of downtown.For those inspired to try climbing, JD offers practical advice on where to start: local climbing gyms provide safe introduction, while beginner-friendly outdoor locations like Horseshoe Canyon near Jasper offer natural experiences with established facilities. The climbing community welcomes newcomers through events like the annual Arkansas Climbers Festival, which draws hundreds for a weekend of climbing, learning, and community building.Ready to escape the digital noise and rediscover your connection to the natural world? Grab some climbing shoes and discover what happens when you focus only on the rock beneath your hands. As JD reminds us, sometimes the greatest adventures come when we leave our phones behind and simply engage with the present moment.Arkansas Climbers Coalition Website:https://www.arkansasclimbers.org/Arkansas Climbers Coalition Facebook:https://m.facebook.com/arkansasclimbers/Email: [email protected]_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

What if the most powerful medicine grew right in your backyard? Chris and Alex Baker are proving it does at City Farm Conway, their regenerative farm where honeybees, herbs, and holistic practices create a symphony of natural living.The couple's journey began separately—Chris with an affinity for beekeeping and self-sustainability, Alex searching for alternatives to the chronic illness that plagued her family. When they met, their shared passion for nature blossomed into a marriage built on God and stewarding the land."We've walked through health crises," Alex explains, describing their battle with toxic mold illness that deepened their commitment to natural remedies. From raw honey's antimicrobial properties to the calming effects of lemon balm tinctures, the Bakers have woven traditional wisdom into their modern lives. Their fermented garlic honey—a potent cold remedy—exemplifies their approach: simple, yet powerful.Their beekeeping practice goes beyond honey production. Chris shares fascinating insights about these intelligent creatures—including the extraordinary story of bees molding propolis into the exact shape of their hive number, demonstrating remarkable pattern recognition. While honeybees aren't native to North America, the Bakers explain how beekeepers often become advocates for all pollinators, creating habitats that benefit native species through reduced pesticide use and increased biodiversity.Recently settled on a three-acre homestead teeming with wildlife and medicinal plants, the Bakers embody what we call "Re-Wilding"—not an escape from modern life, but a return to natural rhythms. "It's about restoring what's been lost, not just in the land but in ourselves.” Their prescription for others is refreshingly simple: stop spraying chemicals, plant flowers, and literally "touch grass" to reconnect with the earth beneath your feet.Want to taste the difference that intention makes? Connect with City Farm Conway on social media to experience their raw honey and herbal products for yourself. Your body will thank you.Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/CityFarmConway/Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/cityfarmconway/YouTube:https://youtube.com/@cityfarmconway?feature=sharedWebsite:https://arkansasgrown.org/listing/city-farm-conway/_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Stepping into the garden with Joe Lamp'l (better known as Joe the Gardener) feels like walking alongside a trusted friend who's been tending the soil for decades. The Emmy award-winning host of PBS's "Growing a Greener World" brings warmth, wisdom, and infectious enthusiasm to our conversation about finding joy in nature and living more intentionally.Joe's journey began with a magical childhood moment—at eight years old, he accidentally broke a branch from a hedge, stuck it in the ground to hide his mistake, and returned months later to discover it had taken root and sprouted new leaves. That single moment of wonder sparked a lifelong passion that eventually led him from corporate accounting to becoming one of America's most beloved gardening educators.What strikes you immediately about Joe is his authentic connection to the natural world. Despite decades in the field, his curiosity remains insatiable. "I love gardening more today than yesterday, and tomorrow I'll love it more than today," he shares, explaining how each discovery adds another layer to his appreciation rather than replacing what came before. This perspective offers a refreshing counterpoint to our culture of constant consumption and disposable experiences.Throughout our conversation, Joe weaves practical gardening wisdom with profound insights about slowing down and rewilding both our landscapes and ourselves. He describes his morning ritual of sitting outside with coffee at dawn, listening to birdsong before checking emails—a simple practice that grounds him in nature's rhythms before the day's demands begin. This intentional approach to living carries through to his gardening practices, where he's recently embraced incorporating more native plants and creating habitat spaces that support wildlife.One of the most thought-provoking moments comes when Joe articulates a concept many of us intuitively feel but struggle to name: "It's the losses we notice, it's the diminishment we don't see." Using the example of monarch butterflies, he illustrates how gradual decline often escapes our attention until species are critically endangered. His gentle reminder that "every bit counts" empowers listeners to take action in whatever space they have available—from extensive acreage to apartment balconies.Ready to reconnect with nature and discover the joy of growing? Subscribe to our podcast for more conversations with people who are living differently and creating positive change in their communities. Share your own gardening journey with us on social media—we'd love to see how you're living slow and re-wilding your corner of the world.Joe's Webiste: https://joegardener.com/_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Bruce McMath paints a vivid picture of what we've lost as artificial lighting has erased our view of the stars, and why it matters more than you might think.When was the last time you truly saw the night sky? Not the dim scattering of stars visible from suburbs, but the breathtaking cosmic vista our ancestors considered as fundamental to human experience as sunrise and sunset. For most Americans today—especially the 90% of young people who've never witnessed the Milky Way—this connection has been severed by the steady creep of light pollution.As chair of the Arkansas Natural Sky Association, McMath explains how this environmental issue extends far beyond astronomy. The Earth has experienced the rhythm of day and night for 4.5 billion years, and every living thing has evolved within this cycle. Artificial light disrupts these patterns at a fundamental level, suppressing melatonin production in humans (increasing risks of diabetes, cancer, and depression), disorienting migratory birds (killing hundreds of millions annually), confusing nocturnal pollinators, and even altering plant growth patterns. The conversation reveals surprising facts about how "security" lights often make properties less secure by illuminating potential targets for criminals, while wasting energy and creating harmful glare.The good news? Unlike many environmental challenges, addressing light pollution actually saves money and improves visibility. Communities like Flagstaff, Arizona have implemented lighting ordinances that allow residents to see the Milky Way from within city limits while maintaining safe, functional lighting. Simple solutions include using motion sensors, warmer light colors (3000K or lower), properly shielded fixtures, and turning off unnecessary illumination. McMath shares practical steps everyone can take—from enabling night mode on electronic devices to certifying homes as night-sky friendly.Ready to reconnect with the night sky? Join us for this illuminating conversation about slowing down and rewilding our relationship with darkness. As McMath beautifully expresses, there's nothing quite like "letting your soul wander among the stars with nature's chorus" of whippoorwills and tree frogs—an experience that's "soul-cleansing and heart-refreshing" in our increasingly artificial world.Arkansas Natural Sky Association:https://darkskyarkansas.org/Dark Sky International: https://darksky.org/Dark Sky approved lighting fixtures and retailers: https://darksky.org/what-we-do/darksky-appro_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Reconnecting with the land doesn't mean you have to do it all at once. Dirk Tanner of Tanner Farmstead shares his practical wisdom on finding balance in the homesteading journey."I think there's valuable skills that we've lost in today's day and age that our grandparents had," Dirk reflects early in our conversation. His journey from suburban upbringing to homesteader wasn't motivated by apocalyptic concerns, but rather a desire to reclaim connection with food production and traditional knowledge.What makes Dirk's perspective so refreshing is his balanced approach. Rather than promoting complete self-sufficiency (which he acknowledges is nearly impossible), he advocates starting with manageable projects that bring joy. A garden and some chickens provide the perfect entry point for most people. From there, Dirk offers counterintuitive wisdom about prioritizing ruminant animals like sheep that convert grass into meat efficiently, rather than the grain-dependent chickens and pigs that many homesteaders focus on first.Throughout our conversation, Dirk shares practical insights on everything from water systems (rainwater collection may be more practical than expensive well drilling), to food preservation strategies (focusing on naturally storage-friendly crops), to the honor system farm stand he once operated. His experience scaling back from commercial farming to homesteading highlights an important reality: sometimes less truly is more.Beyond the practical aspects, Dirk speaks eloquently about how homesteading has connected him to the cycles of life and death, deepened his faith, and created opportunities for meaningful community. His ultimate goal isn't just self-sufficiency, but creating lasting memories with his family and teaching his children to be connected to reality in ways that modern convenience often obscures.Whether you're a seasoned homesteader or just curious about growing your first tomato, Dirk's approachable wisdom offers valuable perspective on slowing down and rewilding your life, one small step at a time. Check out Tanner Farmstead across social media platforms for more homesteading content and consulting services!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tannerfarmstead/?hl=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/tannerfarmstead/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tannerfarmsteadTanner Farmstead Store: https://tannerfarmsteadacademy.thinkific.com/_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Welcome to season 2 of Natural Obsession. Join us as we approach it with a sense of urgency but also hopefulness. We are calling this season "Live Slow, Re-wild." It's all about slowing down and restoring the things we've lost. Not just in the outdoors but in ourselves. We will be talking to people who are living this out to varying degrees with knowledge about things like dark skies, homesteading, climbing and much much more. If you've been feeling a tug towards a more simple way of living come along with us this season as we learn how to live slow, and re-wild._______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

What happens when two outdoor guys slow down and start asking bigger questions? In this season finale, TJ and Daniel reflect on the journey so far, sharing key lessons from their guests and their own challenges along the way.From Alan’s reminder that “we are what we eat,” to Angela’s perspective on how nature makes us confront what matters most, to Danny’s advice to “put the fishing pole down” and be present—recurring themes of intentional living, slowing down, and reconnecting to the land emerge.The hosts open up about their own struggles balancing modern life with a desire to reclaim “forgotten ways”—the skills, rhythms, and simplicity that past generations lived by. Rather than chasing perfection, they encourage small, meaningful shifts toward a healthier, more intentional life.Looking ahead, Season Two will dive into summer outdoor adventures with folks who are actively living this out—whether it’s on the water, in the woods, or out on the farm. Join us as we continue exploring what it means to slow down, steward well, and live with purpose in a busy world._______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Ever wonder why we're so passionate about conserving the land while neglecting our own bodies? In this eye-opening episode, we turn the mirror on ourselves and explore the fascinating connection between our health and our relationship to nature.We dive into the stark differences between how our grandparents lived—with gardens, canning, and natural food sources—compared to our modern existence of processed foods and convenience-driven choices. The statistics are sobering: diabetes rates have quadrupled since the 1980s, we consume 50 times more vegetable oil than a century ago, and the average person unknowingly ingests the equivalent of a credit card worth of microplastics every week.But this isn't just about alarming health trends. We explore practical ways to reclaim our bodies while honoring our connection to the land. From the hidden dangers of seed oils and forever chemicals to the surprising impact of artificial light on our sleep and wildlife, we share personal experiences and research-backed insights that will change how you think about everyday choices."We're reclaiming our land. We're reclaiming our bodies. It's all the same journey," becomes our rallying cry as we consider what kind of legacy we want to leave. After all, what good is restoring native plants if we're not around—or healthy enough—to enjoy them with our grandkids?Whether you're a dedicated conservationist, a health-conscious individual, or simply someone who wants to live more intentionally, this conversation offers valuable perspectives on slowing down and living closer to nature's patterns. We're not doctors or experts—just two guys trying to align our lives with how we believe we were meant to live.Listen now and join us in questioning the convenience-driven status quo. Your body and the land will thank you.For more info on light pollution, how it disrupts wildlife and the effects of artificial light on our health visit DarkSky International’s website:https://darksky.org/_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Think bats are blind? Think again. In this myth-busting episode, we sit down with wildlife biologist Phillip Jordan to explore the surprising truths about one of nature’s most misunderstood creatures.With nearly two decades of bat research under his belt, Phillip shares stories from late-night fieldwork, remote caves, and even a volcanic island in Nicaragua—where he studied dozens of bat species ranging from mosquito-hunters to nectar-feeders. You’ll learn how bats use both echolocation and night vision to navigate, why they're worth billions to U.S. agriculture, and what makes Arkansas a hotspot for bat diversity.We also dig into real threats facing bat populations, including habitat loss and white-nose syndrome, a devastating fungal disease that's wiped out entire colonies. But it’s not all doom and gloom—Phillip offers practical steps we can take to protect these animals, from setting up bat boxes to rethinking how we manage our forests.Whether you’re a curious naturalist or just want fewer mosquitoes in your yard, this episode will give you a new appreciation for the silent flyers above us—and why they matter more than most people realize.For info on gardening for bats and all things bat boxes and visit the website of Bat Conservation International:https://www.batcon.org/about-bats/bat-gardens-houses/_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Have you ever wondered what it takes to help people fall in love with the outdoors? Sam Files, photographer and park interpreter at Pinnacle Mountain State Park, offers a fascinating glimpse into this world through his unique lens.Growing up glued to Animal Planet and spending his childhood exploring nature, Sam found his calling in park interpretation—connecting visitors with Arkansas's natural wonders. His dual passions for education and photography create a powerful combination for inspiring conservation. "If you can invoke feelings in someone through a photograph, you can capture their heart. You can give them a reason to want to protect that," Sam explains, highlighting photography's crucial role in environmental stewardship.Throughout our conversation, Sam debunks common misconceptions about outdoor photography, emphasizing that expensive gear isn't necessary for impactful images. "The phones in your pocket have a more powerful camera than what National Geographic photographers were using fifteen years ago," he points out. His advice focuses instead on intentional framing: knowing your subject and how everything else in the frame can enhance it.Beyond photography, Sam reveals the hidden treasures of Pinnacle Mountain State Park—a 2,600-acre wilderness with five mountains, two rivers, and approximately 30 miles of biking trails that most visitors never discover. From the peaceful East Quarry Trail with its spectacular overlook to the unexpected wildlife like collared lizards and American eels, the park offers far more than its famous summit.Perhaps most valuable is Sam's closing message to those hesitant to explore the outdoors: "Don't be afraid to get out and explore. So many people are held back because it's unknown." He recommends starting with guided experiences at state parks, building confidence with experts who can keep you safe while introducing you to nature's wonders. It's a gentle reminder that the natural world is waiting—no matter your experience level—with its transformative power just one trail away.To start your own outdoor journey visit Sam or one of the many other park interpreters at your nearest Arkansas State Parks.Follow Sam's photography journey on Instagram and discover how the marriage of art and education can inspire us all to venture outside.To see some of Sam's photos and connect with him go to: https://www.instagram.com/samfiles/Pinnacle Mountain State Park: https://www.arkansasstateparks.com/parks/pinnacle-mountain-state-park_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

What happens when you ask yourself "Between now and death, what do you want life to look like?" For Alan and Angela Mahan of Rabbit Ridge Farms, that question sparked a revolution in how they approach farming, community, and food.In this captivating conversation, we journey from their contrasting childhoods—Angela at the country club and Alan on a dairy farm "sitting on a pile of melons"—to their creation of a regenerative farm that's changing how people think about food in Arkansas. Their story isn't just about farming; it's a love story of healing a blended family and creating a shared vision that grew far beyond what they initially imagined.The Mahans take us deep into their farming philosophy, explaining how they manage livestock through rotational grazing to build soil health while supporting native wildlife. You'll discover why their heritage breed hogs—raised in wooded areas where they forage for acorns and persimmons—produce pork so flavorful it brings grown men to tears, reminding them of their grandmothers' cooking.What makes this episode especially powerful is the Mahans' transparency about their own health journeys. Despite being surrounded by nutrient-dense food, they found themselves in poor health until they recommitted to their original mission. Their candid insights about the modern food system challenge conventional wisdom about what we eat and how it affects our bodies.Whether you're passionate about regenerative agriculture, curious about where your food comes from, or simply looking for inspiration to make a major life change, this conversation offers wisdom that extends far beyond farming. Visit Rabbit Ridge Farms in Bee Branch, Arkansas to taste the difference yourself, or find their products in restaurants throughout Little Rock and beyond.Rabbit Ridge Website:  https://www.rabbitridgefarm.com/Rabbit Ridge Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RabbitRidgeFarmsEstablishments that carry/serve Rabbit Ridge products:The Root Cafe: https://www.therootcafe.com/The Sterling Market: https://www.sterlingmarket.com/Bell Urban Farms: https://bellurbanfarm.com/Table 28: https://www.table28lr.com/Brave New: https://www.bravenewrestaurant.com/The Pantry: https://littlerockpantry.com/Fidel's Coffee: https://fidel.coffee/Prestonro_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

In this intriguing conversation the guys talk to Ryan Parker and Katrina Sims about how approximately 98% of Arkansas's native prairies have disappeared, replaced by dense forests and non-native grasses that create "biological deserts" for wildlife. Yet hope remains. "Native seed can sit in the soil for decades, a hundred years or more," explains Parker. "With the right management conditions, if you run a fire across it at the right time, those seeds will germinate." This resilience forms the foundation of Quail Forever's restoration work.While their name suggests a focus solely on quail, Quail Forever's mission encompasses entire ecosystems. Their work benefits thousands of species from native bees and butterflies to songbirds and amphibians. The organization offers free consultations to landowners, helping them navigate restoration options whether they own a windowsill garden or thousands of acres. For those without land, volunteer opportunities exist through local chapters that conduct community projects and educational programs.Perhaps most surprising is how conservation and agriculture can work hand-in-hand. Native grasses not only provide critical wildlife habitat but also excellent forage for livestock, with documented weight gains rivaling or exceeding those from introduced forages. "It's a win-win," Sims explains, discussing their demonstration sites where cattle producers can see native grazing systems in action.Ready to make a difference? Contact Quail Forever through their Facebook page (Quail Forever in Arkansas) or visit their website to learn about upcoming events, volunteer opportunities, and how you can transform your own space—no matter how small—into thriving habitat that helps make Arkansas truly worthy of its nickname.Here is the list of links referred to in this episode.Web Soil Survey Map: https://websoilsurvey.nrcs.usda.gov/app/WebSoilSurvey.aspxQuail Forever Website: https://www.quailforever.org/Seed Store: https://www.pfhabitatstore.com/On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ArkansasQF/about_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

When Paul Foshee says a good coon dog "don't run anything but a coon," he's speaking from decades of midnight adventures tracking through Arkansas backwoods with his faithful hounds. The second part of our conversation with Paul delivers pure storytelling gold as he recounts tales that few modern outdoorsmen will ever experience firsthand.Picture this: Paul and his hunting partner Don tracking their dogs through miles of soybeans and woodlands, completely disoriented, only to discover they've crossed all the way to Hattieville Lake (Lake Cargile). Or the night they stood flipping quarters for hours while their dogs caught four raccoons without the men moving an inch. These aren't just hunting stories—they're windows into a vanishing culture where outdoor skills and camaraderie shaped men's characters.Paul's adventures extend well beyond coon hunting. His whitewater canoeing experiences on Arkansas rivers and creeks reveal a man who embraced challenge and calculated risk. The storytelling comes alive as he describes navigating massive waves with his son Randy, their canoe filling with water, or nearly getting swept into a dam when a boat motor failed at exactly the wrong moment. "Put your life jacket on. If we get to the dam, get on it," was his practical advice in the face of potential disaster.What makes these stories truly special isn't just the adventure, but the relationships woven throughout. When Paul speaks about the original TJ Virden (our host's great-grandfather), his voice softens with genuine emotion: "He's about as good a man as I ever knew." The story of TJ helping the young couple set up their first home without accepting payment reveals how these outdoor communities supported each other in ways that transcended mere friendship.As Paul reflects on his life's journey, his philosophy emerges with simple clarity: "You don't ever own any property. You think you do, but you don't." He understands we're all just "dust in the wind," temporary stewards passing through. Yet his final wisdom encourages boldness: "If you don't try new things, you ain't never going to accomplish very much."Listen now to experience these authentic stories from a man who's truly lived the outdoor life. Follow us on Instagram @natobpodcast or find us on Facebook at Natural Obsession for more content celebrating the human connection to nature._______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Paul Foshee's weathered hands tell the story of a life richly lived—from barbering, to precisely shaping stone as a mason, to the patient nurturing of pecan trees that now stand as his legacy. Paul represents a generation that built America through versatility and an unyielding work ethic, skills that seem increasingly rare in our technological world.It's in his pecan operation, started in 1984, where Paul's deep wisdom truly shines. Through decades of trial and error, he transformed what others might have seen as worn out old fields into thriving orchards that eventually produced what processors called "the best crop in the nation" in terms of quality.Join us for this first installment of a two-part conversation with a man whose coon hunting adventures, canoe expeditions, and lifetime of outdoor experiences remind us that true wealth comes from connection to land, family, and the satisfaction of creating something meaningful with your own two hands._______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

In this eye-opening conversation, Tyler Savage, a biologist from the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, takes us on a journey through time and paints a clear picture of what habitat in the Natural State looks like today versus several hundred years ago. Areas that are now a dense sea of trees were once open woodlands and savannas maintained by frequent, low-intensity fires. These fire-dependent ecosystems supported diverse wildlife communities that have declined as forests became overgrown in the absence of this essential ecological process.Drawing from his childhood experiences growing up in Mammoth Springs, where weekends meant chasing fish and hunting turkeys, Tyler explains how his passion for conservation took root. Today, through various programs offered by AGFC, he helps landowners restore their properties to more historically accurate and wildlife-friendly conditions. He shares success stories of small landowners making big impacts, emphasizing that conservation work doesn't require vast acreage – even backyard projects contribute to the greater ecological good.Whether you manage thousands of acres or simply enjoy hiking through Arkansas's beautiful landscapes, this episode will transform how you see the forests around you and inspire you to join the effort to restore the Natural State to a truly natural condition.🔗 AGFC Website: Arkansas Game and Fish Commission - Private Lands Habitat Condition🔗 Facebook Group: AGFC Private Lands Habitat Division_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Come with us as we talk to our good friend, UK native, and Arkansas waterfall chaser, Gez Rogers. Looking for seclusion, Gez's waterfall journey started in 2018 after he tragically lost his son, Josh. Since then, he has visited over 500 waterfalls in the Natural State alone.In this episode, Gez shares how you can visit waterfalls yourself, offers advice on hiking with a loyal canine companion, and discusses the healing qualities of the outdoors. Listen as he talks about his journey and tells about some interesting encounters he had along the way.Follow Gez's waterfall adventures on social media:On TikTok: @gezrogers Waterfalls in AR & BeyondOn Facebook: Waterfalls in Arkansas & Other Cool PlacesOn Instagram: @waterfallsinar🔗 Epic Glass Recycling_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Most of us live with fear lurking beneath the surface, controlling our choices without our awareness. For Danny Williams, it took his daughter's devastating cancer diagnosis – a prognosis with just 5-10% survival odds – to begin the brutal process of confronting this hidden controller. This raw, vulnerable conversation explores what he calls "the crucible" – a three-year period that ground away everything he thought defined him. His 12-year lawn care business collapsed, depression and dark thoughts threatened to consume him, and the future seemed impossibly dim. Yet somehow, from these ashes emerged something unexpected: freedom.The turning point arrived through a seemingly simple memory of his young son frozen in fear at a swimming spot, unable to jump from a bridge despite his father's encouragement. "Do you trust me?" he had asked his son, "When do I tell you to do things that will hurt you?" In that moment of recollection, he realized those were exactly the questions God was asking him about his own fear-paralyzed life.What follows is a remarkable story of transformation – not just of survival, but of renewal. His daughter, now seven years post-diagnosis without tumor growth for nearly six years, stands as a living miracle. Meanwhile, Danny finds himself called back to the very industry that once broke him, but with a fundamental difference: "The first time I called you into this, you did it on your own... what I want you to do, I want you to do it with me." For anyone navigating life's darkest valleys or feeling trapped by invisible fears, this conversation offers a powerful reminder that sometimes losing everything becomes the first step toward finding what truly matters._______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

In this bonus content, Daniel and TJ continue their conversation with Danny Williams after the cameras are off.  When three old friends get together and start chatting, there's no telling what will come up!After tasting some farm-raised pickled quail eggs, the guys talk about the trend to live more naturally and with greater self-reliance. As the conversation meanders, more topics including yard foraging, air pruning, seed scarification, food forests, and AI planning get discussed. This fun and thought provoking bonus episode is one that you won't want to miss!_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

In this captivating conversation, Danny Williams invites us into his journey toward a more natural way of living. His story weaves together childhood memories of playing in creeks and fishing with his father, professional challenges and personal health struggles, and a vision of land stewardship that prioritizes diversity, sustainability, and community.Danny shares practical wisdom about sheet mulching, tree guilds, and food forests and the patience required when working with nature rather than against it. "Where we put down a new sheet mulch area, we don't anticipate planting anything there for about three years," he explains – revealing both the challenges and rewards of ecological restoration.However his most poignant insight might be the simplest: "The best times I've had fishing with my son are the times when I put my fishing pole down" – a reminder that our outdoor experiences are ultimately about relationships, not just productivity.Whether you have 1,000 acres of land or just a windowsill, this episode offers inspiration and practical starting points for bringing more ecological balance to your surroundings. Join us as we discover how small changes in how we manage our landscapes can help bring back the fireflies – and so much more.To learn more about Danny and his business, Dreams & Visions, visit https://www.dandvcontracting.com/🔗 The Biggest Little Farm Movie🔗 Back to Eden🔗 Joel Salatin, The Lunatic Farmer🔗 The John Hershey Food Forest_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram

Sit back and grab a coffee as you get to know hosts Daniel Emison and TJ Virden in this premiere episode of the Natural Obsession Podcast. Listen as they share some of the formative outdoor experiences that shaped their lifelong passions for nature. Through stories that range from heartwarming to hilarious, discover how their appreciation for being outside and for conservation deepened over time. As they chat, they'll explore nature's powerful ability to provide mental clarity and peace in our increasingly hectic world. Both share concerns about declining wildlife populations and habitats, hoping this podcast might play a small role in reversing that trajectory by connecting people and sharing knowledge through compelling outdoor stories. Whether you're an avid outdoor person, one who is rediscovering nature's pull, or if you’re interested in it for the first time, we hope you'll join us for conversations with diverse guests–from farmers to conservation specialists to enthusiasts of obscure outdoor activities–as we explore our natural obsessions and work to preserve wild spaces for future generations. Subscribe now and be part of our growing community of people who love the outdoors and want to see it flourish.🔗 A Sand County Almanac by Aldo Leopold_______________________What is the Natural Obsession Podcast all about?Growing up, we all had those moments in nature that stuck with us—whether it was a quiet walk in the woods or a grand adventure. On Natural Obsession, it’s our desire to bring those moments to life. As we talk to people from all walks of life we will learn how they fell in love with the outdoors, the different ways they enjoy it today, and explore how we can work together to ensure these spaces are around for years to come. It’s all about sharing memories from the outdoors and ensuring future generations can make their own.To find out more about Natural Obsession and hosts, Daniel Emison and TJ Virden, visit our website at https://www.natob.co/.If you have questions about episodes or have guest recommendations please email us at [email protected] us on social media to keep up with upcoming guests and episode info:Natural Obsession on Facebook@NatObPodcast on Instagram