No Longer Credentialed

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No Longer Credentialed

Sports broke us. So we made a podcast instead of going to therapy.

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    Chris Yandle: Fired at the Top and How Losing Everything Led to Finding Purpose

    In the world of college athletics, there's a version of success that looks like a rocket ship. You start at a mid-major program, you grind, you move, you climb. Each stop is bigger than the last. Each title is more impressive. Director. Associate AD. Award winner. You are, by every measure anyone in the industry would use... arriving.Louisiana Lafayette. Then Marshall. Then Baylor. Then the University of Miami. Then Georgia Tech. That was the career trajectory of our guest on this week’s episode, Chris Yandle. Onwards and upwards.  And then, in 2016, at one of the most prestigious athletic programs in the country... he was fired. There's something nobody tells you about rocket ships. The higher they go... the harder they fall.For nearly a decade, he poured everything he had into college athletics. He moved his family four times in nine years. He chased titles, bigger programs, bigger platforms. And somewhere along the way, the work stopped being something he did... and became everything he was.And when it all came apart — and it did come apart — he was left with the hardest question a person can face. Who am I... if I'm not this?The road back wasn't linear. It never is. There was therapy. There was teaching. There was a PhD. There was a communications job outside of sports. There were handwritten notes slipped into his daughter's lunchbox that became a book titled Lucky Enough: A Year of a Dad's Daily Notes of Encouragement and Life Lessons to His Daughter. And then one day, standing in a Target in Lafayette over Thanksgiving — his phone lit up. The Today Show wanted to do an interview about his notes to his daughter. And then, the Kelly Clarkson Show called. The comeback was longer than the climb. And it was worth every step.This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpodLucky Enough: A Year of a Dad's Daily Notes of Encouragement and Life Lessons to His DaughterDad pens over 600 inspirational notes for daughter - Today ShowDad Writes Daily Lunch Notes To Help Daughter Overcome Bullying - Kelly Clarkson Show 

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    Matt Olinger: I Chose My Kids Over March Madness (And Don't Regret It)

    This week on the podcast, we’re joined by Matt Olinger, a longtime college basketball jack of all trades who has been on the front lines as an assistant coach, Director of Operations, Director of Recruiting and everything else under the sun. Matt began his career as a manager at Liberty University under Richie McKay and eventually worked his way to an assistant coach position with the Flames. He then joined Bryce Drew’s staff at Vanderbilt as the Director of Basketball Operations, where Boggs worked with him for three seasons, and after his stint with the Commodores, he joined Mike Young’s staff at Virginia Tech as the Director of Recruiting until 2024.With all of the winter weather affecting games across the south, we wanted to get his perspective on being a Director of Operations at a high major level and what went into operating on the fly in situations out of your control.However, after reminiscing about harrowing travel in his career and the attitude it takes to be an operations person in a high-stress position, our conversation thoughtfully turned to why he left the business, the mental toll of the 24-hour, 365-day grind of being a college basketball coach, how your identity as a person shifts the moment you leave the industry, the gratitude he has for the mentors and places he has been, and the question a lot of face when we leave the profession - how much am I going to miss this when I’m gone?Timestamps02:04 - The overnight bus snowstorm story begins08:20 - Stuck behind Travis Tritt's tour bus20:24 - Making the decision to leave coaching27:50 - The adrenaline rush you can't replace37:00 - Mental health and the basketball bubble43:50 - Identity crisis after leaving sports50:50 - The universe sending signs to leave59:20 - Telling the kids he's leaving coaching1:07:40 - March Madness memoriesThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Insane Sports Things We'd Pay Money to See, New Sponsors and A Crisis Communication Masterclass

    This week on the podcast, we take a shot at our own version of “Half-Baked Ideas” with a segment titled, Insane Sports Things We’d Pay Money To See - which evolved into content ideas we think would kill on Netflix. We found some new sponsors! Prime Fine and Circus Contracts, step right up. We hope your check is in the mail.Also, our area of the country experienced a devastating weather event last week, and we watched a crisis communication 101 class happen right before our eyes. And it may be safe to say there were some folks who didn’t stay awake for the lectures. We’ll get into the wrongs and rights of crisis PR.Timestamps3:20 - Crisis communications masterclass: Nashville power outage response failures10:04 - Fining players who aren't employees and the absurdity of college sports20:17 - Alex Honnold's skyscraper climb on Netflix sparks "Insane Sports Things We'd Pay Money to See"This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Delaney Mullins: The Transfer Portal And The Academic Chaos No One Talks About

    This week, two-time University of Wyoming grad and former Cowboy Director of Athletic Academic Services and Coordinator for football, women's volleyball, and golf Delaney Mullins joins us on a fact-finding mission on the NCAA Transfer Portal and the impact on the people that actually make things happen behind the scenes.Mullins, who we actually found on TikTok (@Delaney_Ruthh), where she has found quite the following and fame, has over 11,000 followers and over 1.3 million likes on the platform -  with a lot of the traction coming from her talks about her time as an academic advisor, how the transfer portal really works and the toll it takes on the people who have to deliver the goods in such a short amount of time.We’ll speak with Delaney about her personal experiences working in a high-stress environment, how difficult it is to put all of the puzzle pieces together to get someone through the portal, and how she reached her breaking point to leave the business. She currently serves as an Admissions Counselor and Recruiter for the University of Arkansas.Timestamps:5:13 - Josh Allen and The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles11:37- Telling a coach no14:26 - The harsh reality of the portal25:57- Delaney's breaking point in athletics32:50 - How ethics get challenged as an academic advisor35:17 - Do high-level academic schools struggle to compete in today's transfer portal era?41:15 Delaney's emotional decision to leave after seeing her first recruiting class graduate50:30 - Why college athletics experience makes you overqualified (but employers don't see it)1:01:05 - The tablecloth controversy in college admissions recruiting1:05:40 - Why sports matterThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Jeff Carrico: Athletic Trainers And The Most Powerful Relationships In An Athletic Department

    Longtime friend and collegiate athletic trainer Jeff Carrico joins the podcast, where we ask him about all things about the field - a day in the life, what’s changed since he started in the business 30 years ago, what he would change, words of advice for those considering the field, his start in the business, and what he deems as the essential skill you must possess to making your experience as an athletic trainer a memorable one, despite the long hours, hard work, and low pay.Carrico worked with Boggs at Marshall University in the early aughts, where they roomed on the road and experienced the highs and lows of mid-major basketball. The Cincinnati, Ohio, native has over 30 years of collegiate athletic training experience and has worked at Northern Illinois, Marshall, Cincinnati, DePaul, Central Michigan and his alma mater, Eastern Kentucky, where he served until 2023. He is currently an Outreach Athletic Trainer with the University of Kentucky Health System.Timestamps16:50 - The Reality of Athletic Training Hours26:02 - The Revolving Door of NIL and Transfer Portal30:28 - Healthcare Has the Word CARE in It32:00 - The Power of Face-to-Face Communication36:23 - Saving An Athlete In Need43:30 - Making A Difference54:39 - Athletic Trainers Should Be in Coaching InterviewsThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Why The Current College Football Bowl System Ruins The Postseason, Another Edition Of Coaches That Can’t Help Themselves and A New Segment (Poke The Boggs)

    Welcome back, NLCPod people! We kick off 2026 with a deep dive into college football's broken bowl system, exposing how bowl executives rake in millions while athletic departments struggle and follow the money trail through the $1.3 billion ESPN CFP deal, revealing nonprofit bowl games paying CEOs over $1 million annually. We then ask, how do you remove the fat cats from the bowl money trough?We’ll also tackle another edition of our multi-part series, "Coaches That Can't Help Themselves," dissecting UCLA women's basketball coach Cori Close's media coverage complaints and offering a hilarious checklist for coaches obsessed with press attention. We’ll also discuss the toxic dynamics between coaches and support staff and the mental health ramifications of those interactions. Plus, we’ll debut a new segment: "Poking the Boggs" with rapid-fire reactions to sports headlines.Timestamps6:36 - Boggs goes Pablo Torre on college football’s deeply corrupt bowl system. Where does all of the money go?36:29 - Another rendition of Coaches That Can’t Help Themselves. This time, we talk about a coach who didn’t think there was enough media at their road game right after Christmas.1:10:46 - A new segment, Poke The Boggs. Find out if Barca can make steam come from his ears. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    RE-RELEASE: The Five Suckiest Jobs In Sports and An Interview with Eric “Stoosh” Jones

    This episode originally aired on May 12, 2025, and we really liked it, even if it was only our second episode. So here it is again.In Episode 2 of No Longer Credentialed, we tackle the five suckiest jobs in sports (⁠2:28⁠) from two industry veterans. We also interview ticket office legend Eric “Stoosh” Jones (⁠52:49⁠), who tells us a doozy of a Christmas Day story, and after years of entertaining the masses on birthdays, he ranks his top three ice cream cakes. Finally, Boggs is "Up To His Ears" about TV broadcast assignments. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy BoggsFind us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    RE-RELEASE: Research Behind The Burnout: An Interview With Dr. Matt Huml

    This episode originally aired on July 14, 2025, and is our most listened-to episode to date. So, we thought we’d run it back.We’ve spent much of our time on this podcast speaking about the burnout associated with working in college sports and how it affected our personal and work lives. In this week’s episode, we speak to someone who has quantified our feelings into groundbreaking research.Dr. Matt Huml, an Associate Professor at the University of Cincinnati, teaches sport administration courses in the College of Education, Criminal Justice, and Human Services. He is also on the forefront of the work issues that people working in college sports face every day. We ran across a piece in Sportico he and Dr. Elizabeth Taylor wrote in 2022 titled - Why Employees Are Fleeing The College Athletics Industry - and quickly chased down the rabbit hole of his work, which explains a lot about the current state of the business. We identified with his research, personified it, and we wanted to talk with him.In 2019, he helped write a groundbreaking study titled Workaholism In Sport: A Mediated Model Of Work–Family Conflict And Burnout, which detailed the conflict that many of us have faced doing a job that we were passionate about. He’s also studied remote work for college athletic department personnel, he’s done research on the spouses of sports workers, and recently, published a study called Working to Live or Living to Work? How Daily Work Experiences Affect Sport Employees’ Biometric Health. In this episode, we’ll talk to Dr. Huml about some of the things he found out in his initial work on burnout (5:04), his findings and insight into work-family dynamics (9:55), the jaw-dropping turnover rate in collegiate sports (12:02), what burnout really is (18:21), how culture applies to actions on the field and not for the athletic department (27:45), do athletic directors really understand what’s happening (29:50), would staffers ever walk out (35:25), what he learned from actual staffers to try to even out work-life balance (36:50), and his advice for senior leadership to address burnout and to actually value the time of their staffers (37:20).Dr. Huml also answers questions about generational trends in the industry (40:28), whether higher-ups will start building athletic culture around real family (41:30), and what would be the one big thing he would recommend for athletic directors (44:39). We wrap up the interview with Dr. Huml asking us a big question (58:46).Special thanks to Dr. Huml for his time and insight for this fascinating interview. For more of Dr. Huml’s research, you can find it here.Oh, and before we forget, we want to thank our newest sponsors, Slim’s Magic Carpet Rides and We Build Moats (32:19). We hope to see their multi-figured check in the mail soon. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    What We Learned In 2025

    In our last recording of 2025, we’ll take a look back at some of the things we learned this year, from the most mundane to the most thought-provoking.We’ll also have an 80’s fever-dream of a recap of our show so far, and dive into our Spotify Wrapped for the year. We’ve got fans all over the world, people.Timestamps3:29 – College sports will never be fixed: the endless cycle of issues 9:31 — The Super League and Relegation in College Football27:00 — The ACC Scheduling Fiasco28:07 – Tennessee’s million-dollar balloon budget33:01 - Boggs’ cat is smarter than a majority of collegiate administrators52:48 – The episode that validated the mental health toll of working in sports 55:24 – Guests’ wisdom: lessons from the brave 1:03:10 – Golf Channel secrets: finding the TV camera 1:04:10 – Ice cream cake: the office secret weapon1:04:31 – The Epstein mystery: why we’ll never get to the bottom of it 1:07:19 – Rapid fire: nuggets from 2025 and lessons learned This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Off the Record: When Team Flights Go Public And People Working In Sports Ask, “Where’s My Bonus?”

    We’re back and better than ever and we’re in it to win it, people.This week, after seeing a team radio sideline reporter reveal some interesting dynamics on a team charter flight, we dive into what these flights are all about (since we’ve been on a few in our day) and agree that making details public from a team’s inner sanctum is a complete no-no.But, this conversation leads to what Boggs believes is the number-one conundrum facing sports PR pros in the 21st century. Access. Who gets it? How much should the media get? And, is it worth it, in the end, to give too much of it? Plus, we’ll address what happens behind the scenes when someone you trust, as a part of the team party, decides to go rogue and out some very private team interactions that involve your future star and recent number-one draft pick.And, not everyone working in sports can afford a pool with their Christmas bonus, because, surprise, no one gets one working in the business. We think that should stop and offer up our ideas on what GMs and ADs could do to help out their staffers, who make little to no money in their demanding jobs.Timestamps16:17 - The Balancing Act of PR18:02 - The Unwritten Rules of Access22:23 - The Nightmare for PR Pros23:48 - The Fallout: Who Gets Banned?25:02 - The GM's Wrath and Tightening Access29:05 - The Sacredness of Team Flights30:28 - The Domino Effect of Broken Trust38:21 - The Unintended Consequences for Staff40:03 - The Credentialing Dilemma54:08 - The Trailblazers' Playoff Bonus Example58:28 - The Reality of Staff Bonuses in Sports59:41 - The Importance of Taking Care of StaffFind us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpodLink: Athletes.Org Collective Bargaining Proposal Framework

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    Erin Andrews Is Right, Our Aggregated Culture, Stories With Sports’ Most Well-Known Personalities and All Aboard The Lane Train

    Speaking the truth about working in sports?? Blasphemy! This week on the podcast, we’ll look back at Erin Andrews’ Thanksgiving-aggregated news-making comments and examine her truthful, straight-from-the-heart words about working in the business and the way the Internet quickly aggregates stories about celebrities, even when they’re taken out of context. We’ll get into the sacrifices you have to make to work in the business and how Erin’s comments should be heard more often - that it’s not always sunshine and rainbows covering big-time events. Also, why do we condemn people who are successful, at least on social media, for having thoughts on work-life balance and mental health?We’ve been lucky to work with some of the industry’s great personalities and relive some of those memories, and of course, you didn’t think we’d just let Lane Kiffin off the hook as he rode off on his pontoon boat to Baton Rouge, did you? He’ll play a starring role in one of our sponsor segments, “I Wanna Be A Ho”. Our other supporting sponsor for this week’s episode is Modern Computers, because sometimes comms pros need a little help remembering they’re actually living in 2025.Timestamps7:26 - Erin Andrews' Honest Advice18:31 - Social Media Sucks: Barca Needs a T-Shirt19:15 - The Value of Real-Life Connections22:19 - Advice for Young People in Sports24:22 - Living in the Moment in Sports29:21 - The Highs and Lows of Sports Careers49:14 - The Power of Relationships in Sports53:08 - Dick Vitale and Bill Walton: Legends Off Camera1:00:40 - Our New Sponsors, Modern Computers and I Wanna Be A HoFind us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Wading Through Sewage, Athletic Department Staff Prop Bets and Are Conference Administrators Acting Like Bad Parents?

    This week on a snack-sized edition of the podcast, we introduce new sponsors, The Sewage Suit and StaffDuel, and then pontificate on the glorious feeling of knowing that your season is over. We’ll also touch on MACtion, our favorite tailgating foods and KFC missing out on a great new business opportunity. The BoggsOMeter is running red hot and he’s Up To His Ears about one particular fan base that regularly gives administrators and the league office the middle finger, and nobody does a thing about it. It falls through the cracks with most media, but not with us! Timestamps2:33 The Sewage Suit4:04 StaffDuel 7:07 Exhaling When The Season Ends13:17 Missing Out Working In Sports14:02 The Joys of Tailgating23:27 A Fan Base That Dares You To Tell Them NoThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Crossover Chaos: Surviving Sports’ Wildest Season And Things We’re Thankful For With Eric “Stooche” Jones

    You know that feeling when fall sports are wrapping up and winter sports are ramping up, and suddenly you're living at the office with nothing but energy drinks and broken dreams? Yeah, sports people call that Crossover Season. Some call it madness. Barca calls it hell. We call it content.This week, we're joined by the legendary Eric "Stooche" Jones to swap war stories from the trenches of 14-hour workdays and office naps that didn't quite count as sleep. Sure, crossover season will test your sanity and obliterate your social life, but it also gives you the kind of stories you tell at reunions—the "remember when we literally didn't go home for three days" kind.We're building our hypothetical Zombie Apocalypse survival bags (because if we had to do this all over again, we'd at least come prepared), comparing notes on what kept us functional during the calendar's most unforgiving stretch.It's Thanksgiving week, which means it's time for gratitude, family, and... Barca's wildly controversial opinions about holiday food. We're running through what we're thankful for—some answers are snarky, some are surprisingly wholesome, and all are 100% honest.But let's address the elephant (or turkey) in the room: Barca is categorically WRONG about Thanksgiving food. We said it. We'll defend this position. The rest of you can weigh in.Happy Thanksgiving to our amazing listeners! May your turkey be moist, your in-laws be tolerable, and your crossover seasons be survivable.Timestamps6:13 - Crossover Season: The Zombie Apocalypse12:40 - Sickness and Survival14:31 - The Crossover Season Scheduling Nightmare23:25 - The Gingerbread Man Incident27:07 - Saturday Triple Header Aftermath37:10 - The Power of Guest Services40:06 - Zombie Apocalypse Survival Kit47:07 - EJ’s Famous Christmas Cards57:56 - The Great Thanksgiving Debate1:01:14 - Victory Oatmeal Cream Pies and CamaraderieThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Big Joe Dubin: Rebuilding Your Story When Life Falls Apart

    This week, we sit down with Joe Dubin, a Nashville native who spent over 20 years as one of Middle Tennessee's most beloved media figures. Known for his "Big Joe On The Go" series, Joe didn't just report stories—he celebrated people. But when the cameras stopped rolling and the identity he'd built came crashing down, Joe found himself in the darkest place imaginable, questioning whether life was worth living.In this raw and powerful conversation, Joe opens up about losing everything, the "God moments" that pulled him back from the edge, and how he rebuilt his life with a completely different foundation. Today, Joe is thriving again—but this time, his identity isn't tied to the work. It's about the message: We are all worth it.Timestamps20:22 - Joe's 20+ year career in Nashville television and his "Big Joe On The Go" series33:07 - The moment everything fell apart and he lost his sense of identity34:09 - The "God moments" 36:26 - Rebuilding from scratch and discovering a new purpose44:19 - Why getting off the couch and trying is the key to experiencing monumental things1:02:00 - Working in Sports1:07:00 - Jimmy Buffett words of wisdom1:13:20 - State of local mediaAbout Joe DubinCurrent Work:Co-host of The Chase and Big Joe Show on 102.5 The Game in Nashville (with Chase McCabe)Anchor for Fox 17's high school football coverageWeekly columnist for Main Street Media (Middle Tennessee)Motivational speakerBooks:Create The ChaosScreaming At GodLord, Please Don't Hit That MailboxWe All Walk TogetherNashville—We Still Love YouWebsite:BigJoeOnTheGo.comContent Warning: This episode contains discussion of suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide, please know that help is available.You can reach the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988, available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You can also chat online at 988lifeline.org.If you're not in the United States, you can find international crisis resources at findahelpline.com.We encourage listeners to prioritize their mental health and well-being. If this topic may be difficult for you, please consider whether this is the right time to listen, and know that you can return to this episode when you feel ready.This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    The Tablecloth That Broke Us and How To Avoid Burning Through A Billion Dollars In Buyouts (Plus: Please Stop Shilling for Disney)

    Look, we've covered a lot of big events. We've survived March Madness. We’ve spent 15 days in Omaha. But this week? A wrinkled tablecloth nearly ended us both. We're diving deep into the weird, obsessive world of press conference staging—the stuff nobody sees but everybody would notice if it went wrong. Trust us, there are stories here.We’ll then move into the ESPN/YouTube TV debacle. ESPN personalities begging fans to pick sides in a corporate carriage dispute? It's giving "please clap" energy. We break down why this whole standoff is theater of the absurd, and why Pat McAfee—of all people—became the voice of reason by telling his colleagues to stay in their lane. When Pat's the grown-up in the room, you know things have gone sideways.And finally, since 2014, university presidents and athletic directors have lit a billion dollars on fire just to fire coaches. A billion. So we're offering athletic departments some free consultancy: the green flags and red flags you should actually be looking for when hiring a head coach. Spoiler—it's not just who wins the press conference.This episode is brought to you by Drape Daddies and The Stapler Meltdown. Barca heard these new sponsors pay premium rates for unhinged ad reads, so we're expecting fat checks. Let's see if they deliver.Timestamps03:18 — The table-skirt trigger13:10 — Pat McAfee, the voice of reason? ESPN personalities and the SEC shilling for The Mouse46:08 — How to avoid burning through a billion dollars in coaching buyouts - red and green flags for hiring your new coachThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Behind the Sandstorm with Eric Nichols: Building Traditions and Digital Innovation in Sports

    This week on the podcast, we are thrilled to welcome longtime mentor, colleague and friend Eric Nichols to talk about the latest in digital marketing and technology in the sports universe.Nichols is a longtime collegiate administrator who honed his craft at Vanderbilt and South Carolina before taking his talents to WMT Digital, a forward-thinking tech firm helping sports teams build personalized and immersive digital experiences. We’ll reminisce about his early days about his groundbreaking marketing efforts at Vanderbilt, how Sandstorm took Gamecock Nation by storm, and his thoughts on the latest in digital marketing, AI and where he thinks digital efforts are going in the future.Buckle up for a masterclass in sports innovation, storytelling, and what happens when you dare to think differently.Special thanks to our new sponsors, Golden Slides and Drawl Generator. Their financial contributions are greatly appreciated (when we receive them).Timestamps10:55 — The Grit Behind the Scenes: Early Mornings and Piss Bags11:47 — Defying the Odds: Building Traditions at Vanderbilt 12:27 — The Birth of Sandstorm: How a Song Became a Tradition 24:05 — Digital Mindset: The Untapped Power of Athletic Websites28:00 — Curating Content and Building Brand Personality32:00 — The Power of Data: Knowing Your Fans 36:00 — Personalization and the Future of Fan Engagement52:00 — Dynamic Ticket Pricing: AI Finds the Perfect Price 1:12:00 — Words of Wisdom: Writing, Selling, and Mastering AI This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    The Hidden Patterns That Shape Every Great Story (Including Yours)

    This week on the show, we examine what it takes to be a good storyteller, and how these tried-and-true patterns, which have shaped all of humanity regardless of culture, can affect your career, your relationships with others and your own journey to fulfillment and happiness.We’re very passionate about these things and think they can add a lot of richness to everything you encounter.This episode is sponsored by The Ungratefully Dead As A Duck Collection and everyone’s favorite AI assistant, My Sports Pal. We’ll take IOU’s in these trying times.Timestamps:Rags to Riches— 8:44 Man in a Hole: Resilience and Recovery — 32:36 Authenticity in Storytelling: Sharing the Lows — 36:32 The Icarus Arc: Flying Too Close to the Sun — 45:19 Cinderella Story Arc: Rising Again — 53:38 The Oedipus Arc: Fall, Rise, and Fall Again — 1:01:16 Breaking Cycles: Lessons from the Oedipus Arc — 1:05:51 The Simplicity of Storytelling — 1:10:07 Story Arcs in Everyday Life and Work — 1:12:21 The Story's Not Finished: Hope and Possibility — 1:15:10 More on Story Arcs Kurt Vonnegut’s Shape of Stories (Video)This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  18. 26

    “Gemstone Cal”, The Age-Old Media Access Complaint And AI Recap Slop In MLS

    After planning for a peaceful 25th episode of No Longer Credentialed, we took a U-Turn when we heard the latest from John Calipari and his take on NIL from SEC Media Days. Does he really believe what he’s saying? We’ll take a look at the absurdity of his comments and discuss whether this new era of player empowerment is cracking some of the old kingmakers of college basketball.We then head to Barca’s old stomping grounds, MLS, to look into its AI slop, which they at least labeled and told us about, and their lack of access for reporters, even when it’s been collectively bargained with the players. Is the lack of access hindering the growth and popularity of their product? Especially with their horrible television deal and no eyeballs on their sport?This “Silver Jubilee” episode is brought to you by The 5 AM Breakdown and Golden Image. Maybe we’ll get a private jet ride out of these latest partnerships.Timestamps:6:46 — Deep Dive: Calipari’s NCAA Scandals9:41 — Top Transactional Coaches in College Sports16:03 — MLS & AI Recaps Slop28:00 — MLS Media Access Debate32:40 — The State of MLS: TV Deals, Marketing, and Growth57:07 — Comparing MLS to Other Leagues1:04:47 — Final Thoughts on Media Relations and League TransparencyThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  19. 25

    An Examination of Coach Power In College Athletics: Is It Out Of Control?

    In this week’s episode, we’ll dive back into the Bill Belichick saga at North Carolina and as we predicted in the early days of the podcast, it isn’t working well. We’ll then dig a few layers deeper and ask, “Who really runs the department?” and provide you with stories of the absolute power of a head coach in a high-major college athletic department and of the ridiculousness of some of their requests and the mental toll it can take on a staffer that’s just trying to do their job.How did coaches gain so much power? Is there a way to curb it? How much does media coverage play into this dynamic? And what are some ways to change how coaches are perceived? This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpodTimestamps:UNC's Turbulent Belichick Era: We Told You So  — (03:36)Do College Coaches Wield Too Much Power? —  (06:05)The Cult of the College Coach —  (20:22)Who Really Runs the Athletic Department? —  (26:01)The Toll of Coach Ego and Burnout —  (31:03)The Watergate Moment: Hot Mic Revelation —  (34:07)Promoting The Coach And Forgetting The Players - (40:42)Will the Power Structure Ever Change? —  (1:06:38)

  20. 24

    Chasing Meaning, Connection, and Purpose in Sports and Life

    In this episode, we explore the search for meaning in sports careers, inspired by Viktor Frankl’s philosophy and his book, A Man’s Search For Meaning. We reflect on our own journeys, questioning whether fulfillment comes from titles, pay, or the deeper connections forged through teamwork and adversity. We discuss the universal nature of suffering, the importance of gratitude, and the challenge of finding purpose after setbacks or career changes. Through candid stories—ranging from service trips abroad to the grind of long hours—we reveal that meaning is often found in relationships, community, and the willingness to be vulnerable. We’ll challenge you to reconsider what truly matters: Is it the accolades, or the impact you have on others? The episode closes with a reminder that the search for meaning is ongoing, and that embracing curiosity, kindness, and inspiration can transform even the most difficult experiences into something profound.Key Moments and Timestamps0:00 — Introduction: The hosts set the stage, inspired by Viktor Frankl’s search for meaning.1:47 — Why meaning matters in sports and life; the pressure and purpose of coaching.7:10 — Suffering & Setbacks: Losing a job, facing adversity, and realizing suffering is universal.17:54 — The Power of Relationships: Meaning found in community, not just career achievements.24:51 — Service Trip Story: Brandon’s transformative experience in Tanzania, finding purpose beyond work.29:54 — Gratitude & Belonging: The importance of gratitude, diversity, and belonging in sports.38:16 — Vulnerability & Boundaries: Honest talk about setting boundaries and the difficulty of leadership.54:00 — Letting Go of Control: Wrestling with control, technology, and the ongoing search for meaning.1:09:00 — Closing Reflections: Embracing curiosity, kindness, and the journey to find meaning.This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  21. 23

    AI in Sports: How Embracing Technology Will Define the Next Generation of Sports Careers

    In this episode of "No Longer Credentialed," we dive deep into the transformative power of AI in the sports industry. We’ll discuss how AI is reshaping workflows, content creation, and communication strategies for sports professionals. From practical tips on using ChatGPT for copywriting and PR to the importance of maintaining a human touch, the conversation is packed with real-world examples and candid stories from decades in the field. Barca is Up To His Ears with certain content traditions that are overdue for retirement. Whether you’re a comms pro, coach, or just curious about the future of work. We’ve got it all.We’re also sponsored by, shoot we forgot because we generated it in AI. Either way, we hope that the check is in the mail.Timestamps:0:00 – Introduction: Why AI matters in sports1:17 – The real story behind sports comms careers3:17 – Main segment: Practical AI tools for workflow and efficiency5:41 – Copywriting, brand voice, and the role of AI14:21 – PR, media relations, and AI’s impact45:00 – Rethinking social media: this idea needs to head to retirement home61:33 – Final thoughts and what’s nextThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod 

  22. 22

    Life After Sports: The Journey of Andy McNamara And Shouting Into The Wind About The Absurdity Of Conference Realignment

    In this episode of 'No Longer Credentialed,' we interview Andy McNamara, a legendary collegiate athletics communicator who spent nearly 13 years at the University of Oregon (3:19). We cover Andy’s significant contributions, including spearheading two Heisman Trophy campaigns and leading the Ducks football communications effort in two national championship runs. The conversation also delves into Andy's transformative experience after leaving the sports industry in 2017, his perspective on the demise of the Pac-12, and the unusual but liberating transition to a different pace of life. Anecdotes feature special moments like traveling with Heisman finalists and behind-the-scenes experiences at high-profile events, including a memorable encounter with Bob Seger and Emma Stone at the Ed Sullivan Theater on The Late Show With David Letterman. We wrap up by discussing the impact of conference realignments on collegiate sports and the importance of maintaining a work-life balance in the sports industry. Are we really this stupid? Boggs is 'Up to His Ears' about the impracticalities and logistical challenges of the current college sports conference alignments, proposing a swap of three schools each between the Big 12 and the ACC for a more sensible setup (39:46). Sponsors for this week’s episode are The Third Lane Booster Club and Get Off Your Ass and Refill the Damn Printer Paper (36:16). Our Venmo is NLCPod. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  23. 21

    Dear Formerly Credentialed: Conspiracy Theories, Our Favorite Brands, Corporate ADs, and Cats That Fetch

    This week on the podcast. We’ve made it to episode 20 and we kick off the podcast with a new segment called "Dear Formerly Credentialed" where we read listener submissions from the sports industry community (3:00). We shout out Middle Tennessee State for their common-sense approach to football uniforms and have a get-off-of-my-lawn-old-man conversation about the absurdity of ruining brands, sometimes well-established brands, all in the name of recruiting and frivolous spending (10:53). We then go on-and-on about two of our favorite brands, Chick-fil-A (22:35) and Buc-ee’s (38:31), and Barca is Up To His Ears about whether current athletic directors are equipped to handle today’s world of college athletics (29:16).And just when you think you’ve heard it all, we hear about Boggs’ cat’s very doglike skillset (47:22).This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  24. 20

    "If I Knew Then, What I Know Now" Career Redraft

    This week on the podcast. We have some fun and go back in time to advise our younger selves about some career paths we’d encourage them to take (2:37).Some advice may be absurd. Some may be futuristic. Either way, sit back and hop in the time machine with us as we embark on the inaugural “If We knew Then What We Know Now Sports Career Redraft”.Today’s episode is sponsored by The Quiet Quits Retirement Home and the  Sweatshop TI-81 calculator (22:51). We need the check, ASAP!This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  25. 19

    Brayden Figueroa: Quitting His Dream Job To Begin His Dream Company

    Brayden Figueroa is the definition of betting on yourself.For five years, he worked as a video producer for the LA Lakers. Then one day, he woke up, quit his job with one of the biggest sports franchises in the world, and decided to chase his dream of starting his own business.As a Barca protege at the University of Oregon, Brayden didn’t have the best video equipment, but he still made some dope shit. And more importantly—he gave a shit. He’s always had that “it” factor. He was a leader among his peers, always learning, collaborating and pushing to get better.Fast forward to today—he’s the host of The 505 Podcast, a hub spotlighting some of the best creators and marketing minds in the world, while helping others learn and grow. Recent guests include industry titans like Gary Vee and Seth Godin.The 505 Podcast is closing in on 200 episodes, with more than 20,000 YouTube subs, 80,000 followers on IG, and 1.2 million likes on TikTok. He’s also the co-founder of Blue Stripe Studios, a full-service creative production company making stories built for mobile.What separates B Figgy from the rest is his generous advice and stories of the mistakes that he has made on his business journey. That this whole thing is more than just being creative with a camera.In this episode, you’ll find out that the time is ripe for creatives to reshape and reinvent how we think about communicating in the digital space. He’ll talk about the beginning of his business journey (6:11), how and why he quit the Lakers (8:19), how being on-the-go early in his career set him up for success with his own company (15:17), how he handled hitting his ceiling in a job (17:42), how sports creatives and workers can toot their own horn more (19:19), did he ever think about what he was worth as a freelancer when he was working for someone else (24:18), how he develops pricing plans for projects (29:29), how he makes money and adds value for clients (35:22), what he thinks about AI in the creative space (40:09), why he thinks sports teams are stuck in their same-old ways when it comes to digital media (45:07), two pieces of advice for people who want to go out on their own (47:35), and how he arranged and secured a podcast with industry leader Gary Vee (50:18). You can connect with Brayden on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/bfiggy/ and on TikTok at https://www.tiktok.com/bfiggy/.This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  26. 18

    An Interview With ExtraPoints’ Matt Brown And Our Free Advice To Athletic Directors

    Another week, another damning article about working in sports, this time by AthleticDirectorU.com titled D1 Administrative Burnout, Exhaustion & Disengagement, Part 2: Qualitative Analysis, where many athletic department staffers, at all levels, express their dismay about working in the business. Many of the complaints are the same ones you have heard on our show. So, we decided to bring in an industry expert, Matt Brown, the author of the ExtraPoints newsletter and a longtime reporter on off-the-field and business happenings in college sports, to talk to us about what he’s hearing about the crisis from his sources and if changes are in the works to stem the tide of the brain drain and exhaustion felt by the entire industry (2:41).Barca and I then rattle off some free advice for athletic directors everywhere, with many of the ideas costing very little or nothing at all (39:22). We know that being an athletic director is hard, so we’re here to help. Take notes AD’s and our DM’s are open if you need us to come in and keep your people from leaving.This week’s episode is sponsored by Total ReKool and We’ve Got Colors (36:55). Check is in the mail, right?This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod 

  27. 17

    The Greatest College Sports Office Prank (10 Years Long!) With Ryan Schulz

    A prank that lived for over 10 years? Is that possible?It is indeed possible, and we have the mastermind behind a prank that had Boggs fooled for over a decade. Former colleague Ryan Schulz joins us this week to relive the moment and recounts how he pulled off the joke of the century (2:03), one that would probably still be going on if everyone still worked in the same office.We’ll also take a look back and some other infamous pranks and stories from around the office (42:09), and Schulz lets us in on an improbable story from a trip to the NCAA Tournament (52:31)This week’s episode is sponsored by Gone, But Not Forgotten, Funeral Home and Drinks of Delusion (39.58). We’re still waiting for payment - maybe they put our direct deposit account number wrong?This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  28. 16

    Scott Fitzgerald: Can We Cut Through The Noise And Find Joy?

    We are honored and thrilled this week to share our conversation with Boggs’ graduate school buddy, Scott Fitzgerald, who recently started Purscial, a coach and support system for coaches, executives, and administrators who serve others in environments where performance matters. It’s like a caddy for coaches - someone in their corner to lighten the load and help them perform at their best.We dig into a multitude of topics that apply to all people working in sports, and frankly, all humans, and how we face adversity, discover more about ourselves, and how we can find joy in the work that we do and the people we can become.We’ll ask how he got the idea to start his business (3:19), how the conversations with coaches get started (8:32), what are the main things he has his clients focus on (11:03), the idea of joy and can coaches truly find it (15:21), burnout with coaches in general (18:31), how long does the process take for change to take place (21:53), strategies for results-oriented coaches (24:00), how many of his clients are trapped in fear (26:43), how passion influences decisions and self-exploration and how to harness it (28:36).After an ad break from our loyal sponsors Lloyd Christmas IOU’s and The Dead Media Society (33:45), we continue our conversation and ask Fitzy about the glamorization - or lack thereof - of being a coach (36:18), people taking advantage of our passion (39:32), who checks on the wellness of our coaches (42:32), how cultivating coaches saves departments and organizations money (45:15), being honest is the only way to make progress and how receptive coaches are to it (53:35), the fear of perfection and how it hinders to be your best (58:06), how he wants coaches to feel after meeting with him (1:00:27), and two things that help relationships (1:04:44).You can find Scott at https://purscial.net/ and can email him at [email protected] also wanted to list the books that Fitzy mentions on the podcast. The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick RubinTao Te Ching: A New English Version by Lao TzuThe Inward Trilogy by yung puebloThe Tough Stuff: Seven Hard Truths About Being a Head Coach by Cody RoyleThis episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  29. 15

    We’re Three Months In And Mainstream Media Is Already Stealing Our Ideas, ESPN Better Be Ready To Open Their Checkbook, and The Worst Hire In College Sports We’ve Ever Seen

    A lot to get to this week on the podcast. Maybe next time an outlet tries to lift ideas from us, we’ll get cited. After The Athletic decided to take our idea about ownership in college sports (2:49), we’ll examine their top-10 list of college football valuations - and where we think they made a big mistake. Either way, college presidents are seeing dollar signs. When will they be crazy enough to act on this idea?After seeing this intriguing article from Nielsen on media consumption, our minds shifted to sports television rights (17:47) and why we think ESPN is going to have to pay the piper for college football. We unpack behind-the-scenes details of the origins of the SEC Network and why those early philosophies may doom the Worldwide Leader moving forward.And finally, when we thought we’d seen it all in college sports, we found an athletic director who outdid everyone for stupidity (43:44). Boggs is Up To His Ears and lets him know about it.While awaiting for their check to come in the mail, we decided to let Nostalgia Gummies and 25-Hour Energy go ahead and run their ads (41:18). But, we promise this is the last time this is going to happen!This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  30. 14

    Scheffler's Intriguing Press Conference, Has The House Settlement Pushed Higher Ed Too Far?, And Your Stories Hit Home

    We’re back and better than ever. In Episode 13, we talk about the World #1's stunning press conference that sent shockwaves through the golf world. We unpack his brutally honest revelations and share how his powerful message can transform your own life's journey, both at work and at home (4:59).Barca is Up To His Ears about the lunacy of higher ed and how universities are slapping on "student experience fees" while drowning in House Settlement debt. We expose the smoke and mirrors behind higher ed's latest money grab - and why you should be outraged (18:22).And, in our final segment, we read one of your stories from the frontlines of sports and our emotional and candid conversation is one you won’t hear anywhere else (33:36).Of course, we can’t go on any further without thanking our sponsors, although we’re still for waiting for payment, the Gaslight Group and Buy-In Or Get-Out (31:45).This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  31. 13

    Mark Cohen, Longtime Collegiate Sports Communicator, Chats About His Career And Abrupt Departure

    Longtime college sports communicator Mark Cohen probably slid into your social media feeds a little while back. The 36-year veteran of the business was abruptly let go in a four-minute meeting with his new athletic director at TCU earlier this summer, and the tributes poured in from all areas of sports to pay tribute to Cohen and his massive influence on the Horned Frogs’ most recent successes. I’m sure many of you were wondering, “Who is this guy?” Honestly, we wanted to get to know Mark, too.So, we did. He joined us to talk about his journey as a college sports communicator (3:32), what he liked the most about working in college sports (12:51), how some things in sports can’t be replicated working in other fields (17:37), his non-negotiables (18:59), how being a true publicist is a lost art these days (29:55), how it felt to get such an outpouring of support on social media (31:46), what his immediate thoughts were after being relieved of a long career at TCU (35:19), what’s changed in the business in the last few years (40:59), what he thinks is next in college sports (46:04), did he think administrators took advantage of his passion? (48:34), and his involvement in the TCU community with two autistic sons (51:05). Also sprinkled throughout the podcast are his stories from the 2022 TCU national championship run - did he ever sleep?We also had to inquire about his stint on “Stump the Schwab” (51:50) and his infamous flag in the 2018 Cheez-It Bowl (51:51).This week’s sponsors of the podcast are The Four-MInute Exit Meeting and OnlyFans Sports Edition (28:04). Just in case sponsors were wondering, we do have Venmo. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpoInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  32. 12

    Research Behind The Burnout: An Interview With Dr. Matt Huml

    We’ve spent much of our time on this podcast speaking about the burnout associated with working in college sports and how it affected our personal and work lives. In this week’s episode, we speak to someone who has quantified our feelings into groundbreaking research.Dr. Matt Huml, an Associate Professor at the University of Cincinnati, teaches sport administration courses in the College of Education, Criminal Justice, and Human Services. He is also on the forefront of the work issues that people working in college sports face every day. We ran across a piece in Sportico he and Dr. Elizabeth Taylor wrote in 2022 titled - Why Employees Are Fleeing The College Athletics Industry - and quickly chased down the rabbit hole of his work, which explains a lot about the current state of the business. We identified with his research, personified it, and we wanted to talk with him.In 2019, he helped write a groundbreaking study titled Workaholism In Sport: A Mediated Model Of Work–Family Conflict And Burnout, which detailed the conflict that many of us have faced doing a job that we were passionate about. He’s also studied remote work for college athletic department personnel, he’s done research on the spouses of sports workers, and recently, published a study called Working to Live or Living to Work? How Daily Work Experiences Affect Sport Employees’ Biometric Health. In this episode, we’ll talk to Dr. Huml about some of the things he found out in his initial work on burnout (5:04), his findings and insight into work-family dynamics (9:55), the jaw-dropping turnover rate in collegiate sports (12:02), what burnout really is (18:21), how culture applies to actions on the field and not for the athletic department (27:45), do athletic directors really understand what’s happening (29:50), would staffers ever walk out (35:25), what he learned from actual staffers to try to even out work-life balance (36:50), and his advice for senior leadership to address burnout and to actually value the time of their staffers (37:20).Dr. Huml also answers questions about generational trends in the industry (40:28), whether higher-ups will start building athletic culture around real family (41:30), and what would be the one big thing he would recommend for athletic directors (44:39). We wrap up the interview with Dr. Huml asking us a big question (58:46).Special thanks to Dr. Huml for his time and insight for this fascinating interview. For more of Dr. Huml’s research, you can find it here.Oh, and before we forget, we want to thank our newest sponsors, Slim’s Magic Carpet Rides and We Build Moats (32:19). We hope to see their multi-figured check in the mail soon. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  33. 11

    Five Alarm Fire in College Sports, Wild Stories, And A Fresca To The Face

    In Episode 10 of No Longer Credentialed, Barca is joined by special guest host Eric "Stooche" Jones, filling in while Boggs is on vacation. To mark the milestone 10th episode, Barca opens with a full Kenny Powers–style eulogy, declaring that Boggs now lives through him (0:30). Hell yeah, dude.Then it’s a five-alarm fire rant (4:30) aimed squarely at athletic directors, as Barca torches leadership for their role in the House Settlement fallout and the mass layoffs sweeping college sports.From there, it’s Wild Stories Working In Sports, a greatest-hits set of absurd moments from the trenches: A fan threatens to storm the office and fight Barca after Signing Day content doesn’t meet his donor expectations (10:00); A staff parking ticket sparks a lobby blowup and nearly turns into a fistfight (25:54); A gameday volunteer is crushed when a coach tosses her full can of Fresca from the podium in the trash (33:53); An elderly elevator operator accidentally strands an entire visiting coaching staff at the end of a game (40:57).This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all the socials at @NLCPod:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  34. 10

    A Summer HodgePodge, Our Full Zombie AD Lists, And Are Influencers The Next Frontier For Social Media Managers?

    In our summer hodgepodge episode, we’ll give another run at HR and Leadership (2:35), we’ll recap our full Zombie AD lists from the House Settlement episode (20:07), and Barca is Up To His Ears about the current state of social media and wonders if social media influencers should be running the whole shabang (25:38).This week’s episode is once again sponsored by Never Getting Promoted and Find My Boss. You remember - the Chiquita commercial (19:03).This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

  35. 9

    Players We Never Thought Would Make It And Are We Trying To Kill Men’s College Basketball?

    In this episode, we take a look back at our over 40 years of experience working on the front lines in sports and reveal our top two players who have shocked us with their success in the professional ranks (2:35).This week’s episode is sponsored by a metatarsal and a robot (19:50).And while Boggs is concerned with all of the business aspects of men’s college basketball, he’s Up To His Ears about the structure of the game ON the court(38:55). Are we trying to kill it?This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    House Settlement Industry Fallout, We Go “ZombieAD”, and How Much Is Alabama Football Worth?

    With the House Settlement finalized, we take a deep dive into the fallout of the agreement (2:39) and how it will impact the labor force in the industry (HINT: It’s a 5-alarm fire). We’ll also put on our ZombieAD hat and take a stab at ways to cut costs and raise revenue in these challenging times and introduce some ideas that college presidents surely have thought about. Is a major college football brand worth as much as the top-valued team in Major League Soccer? Our sponsors this week remind everyone working in sports about the grim times ahead (24:48), and Barca is Up To His Ears about cute job postings in the sports industry that really aren’t funny (47:17).This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Our Sponsor Segment Goes Haywire and Do People Working In Sports Need Unions?

    We’re back for another edition of No Longer Credentialed.This week on the podcast, our “Sponsored By” segment goes from a 2-minute read to a 30-minute segment (3:07) that veers off into road travel etiquette, access to team rooms and our favorite meals on the road.  Boggs is Up To His Ears about the organizations that support the people who work in sports (32:55) and wonders if they do enough to help alleviate burnout and the brain drain of the profession. Come for the industry talk, stay for the plantains and AI Boggsy. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok:⁠ ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod⁠

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    Listener Feedback, Hosting Big Events and Finding The Camera, Digital Strategies and An Epic Omaha Tale, And Accepting HR For What It Is

    In this episode of No Longer Credentialed, we’ll take in some listener feedback, take you inside the ropes of hosting and being around big events, both from the event and digital side, and Barca has some words of wisdom about HR and what they’re not. The guys dive into some listener feedback from people in the industry (3:04) as we all commiserate over working in the business.Boggs talks about his four key things to remember when hosting big events (6:44) including always having his eyes on the camera and Barca dishes on some digital strategies (21:40) and tells an Omaha-CWS masterpiece of a story.We’re also waiting for our sponsors of this week’s episode (19:43) to CTC (Cut the Check).And in our final segment, Barca is Up to His Ears about HR (38:18) and what he’s learned from his years working with them (HINT: They’re just doing their jobs).  This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    A Game of “What Would You Do?” And We Have Words For College Sports Middle Managers

    We’re back with a new episode of No Longer Credentialed with a new game we call “What Would You Do?” where we address some important questions in the business.We’ll talk about social media schedule releases and fuddy-duds crushing fun vibes (5:57), athletes not talking to the media after losses and hard situations (11:25), social media boundaries (26:35) and whether we’d give our alma maters a discount on our services (38:52). We’ll also give our illustrious sponsors the minutes they desperately deserve (25:02) and Boggs has some choice words for clueless middle managers in college sports (43:40).This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Next week, we’ll take you behind the scenes of hosting a big event. It’s a fun and exhausting time of the year and we’ll take right to the middle of it. Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Belichick Wishes He Had Us Working With Him, A Visit To The Psychologist's Couch and We Want Your Stories!

    In Episode 3 of No Longer Credentialed, we dive into the Bill Belichick situation at North Carolina from a grizzled-veteran point of view (⁠2:22⁠), we hear from our financial backers who haven’t paid up yet (18:53) and we tackle a conversation a psychologist would love (20:17).Barca is Up To His Ears with newbies asking for raises only a few months into the job (58:10), and we ask for your stories from the business that we can feature on future episodes. Anonymously, of course. Hit us up on our socials!This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Next week, we’ll take a shot at some precarious work situations in “What Would You Do?” and we’ll also take you behind the scenes of hosting a big event. Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    The Five Suckiest Jobs In Sports and An Interview with Eric “Stoosh” Jones

    In Episode 2 of No Longer Credentialed, we tackle the five suckiest jobs in sports (2:28) from two industry veterans. We also interview ticket office legend Eric “Stoosh” Jones (52:49), who tells us a doozy of a Christmas Day story, and after years of entertaining the masses on birthdays, he ranks his top three ice cream cakes. Finally, Andy is "Up To His Ears" about TV broadcast assignments. This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Next week, we talk about Bill Belichick from a PR and Athletic Department perspective and also hit the therapy couch on the reasons why we started this podcast.Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Inaugural Episode, Scrambling To Prepare For Ludicrous Jersey Retirements, NIL Madness, Social Media Same-Old, Same-Old, and Barca is Up To His Ears About Loyalty In Sports

    In this inaugural episode of No Longer Credentialed, longtime sports insiders Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs go through their Quick Hitters, including Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter’s jersey retirements (2:40), NIL madness and how it’s affected our viewing habits and the way we look at sports (8:06), as well as social media do’s and don’ts, with most places still concentrating on the don’ts (26:54). You’ll also learn about our sponsors for the show (35:28) and get a heartfelt rant from Barca on loyalty, or the lack thereof, in the sports space (36:19).This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.Next week, we rank the suckiest jobs in sports. You won’t want to miss it. Find us on all of the socials at NLCPod.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NLCPodX: https://x.com/nlcpodLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nlcpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlcpodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nlcpod

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    Trailer: No Longer Credentialed

    Sports broke us. So we made a podcast instead of going to therapy. Join former sports professionals Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs as they examine the current world of sports through the lens of over 40 years of combined experience working in the industry.This… is No Longer Credentialed. We once had access. Now we have opinions.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Sports broke us. So we made a podcast instead of going to therapy.

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Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs

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