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No Win Scenario
by Trevor Chamberlain and Don Schechter
Star Trek, Dune, Babylon 5, The Expanse, Star Wars, Neon Genesis Evangelion and more — we are your gateway to science fiction entertainment. As we spar over diverse perspectives and dissect popular narratives, you'll be passionately divided, loving and loathing us in equal measure. Tune in as yours hosts, Don and Trevor, engage with industry experts to explore the day-to-day realities of production and the increasing prominence of mental health concerns in the film and television industry.Our initial guests include:Dave Blass (Production Designer, Star Trek Picard)Liz Kloczkowski (Art Director, Star Trek Picard)Todd A. Marks (Computer/Video Playback Supervisor, Star Trek Picard)Jeremy Benning (Cinematographer, The Expanse)Kent Sanderson (President, Acquisitions and Ancillary Distribution at Bleecker Street)David Mack (NY Times Best Selling Author, Star Trek: Picard: Firewall)Jenny R Johnson (Artist)Derek Tyler Attico (Aw
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306 - The Wrath of Clips - (Clip Show Part 2)
The No Win Scenario Clip Show "Shades of Gray" was so successful so we're back with more. the Wratch of clips includes interviews with Star Trek author Derek Tyler Attico, Star Trek Picard Nemesis, Anchorman 2, Quantum Leap (and so on) Computer/Video Playback & Projection Supervisor Todd A. Marks, The Expanse and The Boys Cinematographer Jeremy Benning, Bleecker Street CEO Kent Sanderson, and Brian Tamm the Executive Director at Independent Film Festival Boston. Listen to this episode then go back to Seasons 1 and 2 for the full interviews.No Win Scenario is your portal into the universe of science fiction entertainment. Join Don and Trevor as they debate varied viewpoints and dissect beloved narratives. Engaging with industry insiders, they delve into the everyday realities of production and highlight the growing importance of mental health awareness in the film and television industry.Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 306Release Date: January 12, 2025Duration: 00:39:44Hosts: Don Schechter and Trevor ChaberlainGuests: Derek Tyler Attico, Todd A. Marks, Jeremy Benning, Kent Sanderson, Brian TammWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867TikTok: @NoWinScenarioPodcastSubscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com
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305 - Paradise and This is Us Editor Lai-San Ho
Editor of Hulu's Paradise and NBC's This is Us Lai-San Ho beams into the No Win Scenario studio. In other breaking news, Trevor admits to liking Attack of the Clones.No Win Scenario is your portal into the universe of science fiction entertainment. Join Don and Trevor as they debate varied viewpoints and dissect beloved narratives. Engaging with industry insiders, they delve into the everyday realities of production and highlight the growing importance of mental health awareness in the film and television industry.Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 305Release Date: August 26, 2025Duration: 00:59:00Hosts: Don Schechter and Trevor ChamberlainGuests: Lai-San HoWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867TikTok: @NoWinScenarioPodcastSubscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com
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304 - Our "Shades of Gray" Clip Show (Seasons 1 and 2)
Star Trek The Next Generation had it's Shades of Gray episode - so this is ours. We go back into the vault and reflect on highlights from our first two seasons. No Win Scenario is your portal into the universe of science fiction entertainment. Join Don and Trevor as they debate varied viewpoints and dissect beloved narratives. Engaging with industry insiders, they delve into the everyday realities of production and highlight the growing importance of mental health awareness in the film and television industry.Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 304Release Date: August 25, 2025Duration: 00:36:47Hosts: Don Schechter and Trevor ChamberlainGuests: Dave Blass, Liz Kloczkowski, Davif Alan Mack, Jenny R. Johnson, Todd E. Slayton, and Robin MorselliWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867TikTok: @NoWinScenarioPodcastSubscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com©2025 Charles River Media, Inc.All Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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303 - Superfan Sam and Apple Vision Pro
Don gets lost in his Vision Pro and Superfan Sam joins us in the No Win Scenario studio. Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 303Release Date: August 24, 2025Duration: 00:31:58Hosts: Don Schechter and Trevor ChamberlainGuests: Superfan SamWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867TikTok: @NoWinScenarioPodcastSubscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com©2025 Charles River Media, Inc.All Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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302 - Supernatural and Mad Men Actress Julie McNiven
Supernatural and Mad Men actress Julie McNiven beams into our studio for our first ever video podcast. Listen as Trevor couldn't be less excited or prepared and Don rushed the merch and made one horrible typo.No Win Scenario is your portal into the universe of science fiction entertainment. Join Don and Trevor as they debate varied viewpoints and dissect beloved narratives. Engaging with industry insiders, they delve into the everyday realities of production and highlight the growing importance of mental health awareness in the film and television industry.Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 302Release Date: August 23, 2025Duration: 1:01:27Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuests: Julie McNivenWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Tik Tok: @NoWinScenarioPodcastSubscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com©2025 Charles River Media, Inc.All Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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301 - Mickey 7 Author Edward Ashton
Season 3 kicks off with a special event with Mickey 7 author Edward Ashton live from the West Newton Cinema in Newton, Massachusetts. We talk about his book along with Mickey 17, a science fiction film directed by Bong Joon Ho.No Win Scenario is your portal into the universe of science fiction entertainment. Join Don and Trevor as they debate varied viewpoints and dissect beloved narratives. Engaging with industry insiders, they delve into the everyday realities of production and highlight the growing importance of mental health awareness in the film and television industry.Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 301Release Date: August 23, 2025Duration: 0:44:29Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuest: Edward AshtonWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Tik Tok: @NoWinScenarioPodcastSubscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com©2025 Charles River Media, Inc.All Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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207 - Deep Space Nine Reunion with Special Guests (Bonus Episode)
No Win Scenario is your portal into the universe of science fiction entertainment. Join Don and Trevor as they debate varied viewpoints and dissect beloved narratives. Engaging with industry insiders, they delve into the everyday realities of production and highlight the growing importance of mental health awareness in the film and television industry. In this episode, Don and Trevor host a vibrant reunion with stand-ins, body doubles, Klingons, Vulcans and even a Dabo Girl from Star Trek Deep Space Nine. The discussion revisits the iconic set and explores the enduring influence of the series and the impact it had on those who helped create the show.The interview features:Revisiting Deep Space Nine with the CastCathy Debono talks about her multifaceted roles, from Terry Farrell’s body double to various alien portrayals, reflecting on her transition from acting to psychotherapy specializing in trauma.Robin Morselli shares her experiences as a voice actor and stand-in on the show, discussing the unique challenges of working while pregnant and in intricate Klingon makeup.Mark Lentry reminisces about his time as a stand-in for René Auberjonois and his subsequent roles in shows like Magnificent Seven and his unique memorabilia collection.Todd E. Slayton offers insights into his background work on the set, his close relationships with the cast, and his profound connection to the show’s themes.Personal Stories and LegacyThe guests share personal anecdotes from the set, including the practical jokes and camaraderie that defined their time on Deep Space Nine. They discuss the physical challenges of the roles, the emotional bonds formed, and the impact of the series on their personal and professional lives.Deep Space Nine’s Cultural ImpactThe reunion highlights how Deep Space Nine addressed issues of race, identity, and social justice, with stories that resonate with current events. The cast members discuss specific episodes that were particularly impactful, including "Far Beyond the Stars," and their ongoing relevance.Current Endeavors and the Continued Influence of Deep Space NineEach guest discusses their current projects and how their experiences on Deep Space Nine influence their work today. They reflect on the show’s legacy as a pioneer in science fiction for its diversity and depth.This episode not only celebrates the past but also explores the lasting legacy of Star Trek Deep Space Nine and its influence on both the science fiction genre and the lives of those who brought it to life.Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 207Release Date: January 12, 2025Duration: 1:00:06Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuests: Cathy Debono, Mark Lentry, Robin Morselli, and Todd E. SlaytonWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Subscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com©2025 Charles River Media, Inc.All Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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206 - Star Trek Deep Space Nine: Far Beyond The Stars with Todd E. Slayton
"206 - Star Trek Deep Space Nine Far Beyond The Stars with Todd E. Slayton"No Win Scenario is your gateway to science fiction entertainment. Don and Trevor will spar over diverse perspectives and dissect popular narratives. Don and Trevor engage with industry experts to explore the day-to-day realities of production and the increasing prominence of mental health concerns in the film and television industry.In this episode, Don and Trevor welcome Todd E. Slayton who beams in from Star Trek Deep Space Nine. The pair also shout out Beyond Classical Theatre and the legendary actor Johnny Lee Davenport once more. The interview includes:Todd Slayton's background and connection to Deep Space Nine Todd Slayton is an actor, editor and producer who had a unique behind-the-scenes role on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. He started out in the industry as a model, but had a passion for entertainment instilled by his grandmother's involvement in vaudeville. Todd was hired as a background extra and stand-in on DS9, eventually becoming very close with the cast and crew, especially Avery Brooks (who played Captain Sisko) and Brock Peters (who played Sisko's father). Todd shared stories of the long hours, intense makeup, and occasional pranks on set, as well as the deep emotional connection he felt to the show and its themes of diversity and perseverance.Todd's experiences with Avery Brooks and Brock Peters Todd had a close mentorship relationship with Avery Brooks, who he says treated him like a surrogate son. He shared a story of how Brooks pulled him aside to prevent him from attending an event the night Biggie Smalls was shot, likely saving his life. Todd also became very close with Brock Peters, who he says was like a father figure to him. He has fond memories of the two actors bonding and sharing stories on set.The making of the "Far Beyond the Stars" episode Todd had a unique behind-the-scenes role in the acclaimed Deep Space Nine episode "Far Beyond the Stars", where the main characters are transported to 1950s Earth and experience racism and discrimination as African-American writers. Todd was Avery Brooks' stand-in and photo double for that episode, and he shared details about the intense emotional performances, the elaborate set design, and the significance of depicting that historical struggle. He felt honored to be part of such an impactful and well-crafted episode.Todd's other roles and experiences on Deep Space NineIn addition to his work on "Far Beyond the Stars", Todd played various background characters on Deep Space Nine, including Klingons, Cardassians, and Breen. He shared stories of the long hours, complex makeup, and occasional pranks on set. Todd also discussed his work on other shows like CSI, where he had a recurring role as a paramedic, and how the Deep Space Nine cast and crew formed a tight-knit community.Todd's current projects and the legacy of Deep Space NineToday, Todd is producing a unique music and cultural festival in his hometown, blending reggae, hip-hop, and Afro-Cuban influences. He remains passionate about the arts and entertainment, and feels that Deep Space Nine's legacy as a groundbreaking, diverse, and socially conscious sci-fi series is an important part of his own story and experience in the industry. Todd expressed hope that Avery Brooks and the show will continue to have an impact in the years to come.Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 206Release Date: October 19, 2024Duration: 1:16:14Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuest: Todd E. SlaytonWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Subscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com©2024 Charles River Media, Inc.All Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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205 - Dune Part 2...part 2. (And the Independent Film Festival Boston)
Dune Part 2 was so epic that our fans demanded more! Brian Tamm, the Executive Director of the Independent Film Festival Boston joins the show to discuss all things Dune and help Don convert Trevor into loving David Lynch's 1984 version.
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204 - Star Trek Author Derek Tyler Attico and Remembering Johnny Lee Davenport.
Star Trek Author Derek Tyler Attico discusses "The Autobiography of Benjamin Sisko" and the impact of Deep Space Nine 31 years later. Trevor interrupts Don with another "Trevor's Tangent" and the duo pay tribute to the late Johnny Lee Davenport.
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203 - Dune Part 2...Part 1
Dune, Dune, or Dune? Pick your favorite. Don and Trevor sure have! Listen to this special episode of No Win Scenario where Don and Trevor fight over David Lynch's Dune, Christopher Walken's casting, and so much more! Trevor's tangent incoming... This is No Win Scenario 203 - Dune Part 2....Part 1!
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202 - Sci-fi Artist Jenny R. Johnson
Season 2 of No Win Scenario continues with Don and Trevor welcoming Canadian artist Jenny R. Johnson. Her recent body of work, Scenes from the Multiverse, is an ongoing love letter to the sci-fi and genre characters and moments that have inspired her imagination as a self-described “lifelong geek.” They discuss fandom, bullying, the challenges of ADHD, and Don's future commission for Trevor...which of course is Babylon 5 related. Send your questions and comments to [email protected] and subcribe on all your favorite platforms.
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201 - Star Trek Author David Mack
Join us for our Valentine's Day special as we welcome New York Times bestselling author David Mack and unveil Don's gift to Trevor: a surprise Cameo from a certain "Star Trek: Picard" actor. David discusses his new book "Star Trek: Picard: Firewall," and finds himself right at home bashing Don and Trevor equally. Listen to the entire podcast for in-depth discussions on LGBTQIA+ characters in the Star Trek universe, book banning, and the state of our political discourse. Season 2 of No Win Scenario is here!
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105 - Bleecker Street's Kent Sanderson
Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, and Sci-Fi? The fifth episode of No Win Scenario is full of curveballs including the surprise attack of "Trevor's Tangent." Bleecker Street's Kent Sanderson, President of Acquisitions and Ancillary Distribution joins the fray.https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Subscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.comBleecker Street's Kent SandersonPodcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 0005Release Date: November 20, 2023Duration: 52:51Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuest: Kent Sanderson©2023 Charles River Media, Inc.All Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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104 - The Expanse Cinematographer Jeremy Benning
The Expanse. The Boys. Spin. Guillermo Del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities. Alone Across the Arctic. Cinematographer and producer Jeremy Benning has had an exciting career but now confronts his greated challenge yet: a conversation with Don and Trevor. In episode four of No Win Scenario, Jeremy talks about his work and how he and his team maintain their mental health and relationships under demanding working conditions. https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Subscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.comThe Expanse Cinematographer Jeremy BenningPodcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 0004Release Date: November 19, 2023Duration: 1:19:33Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuest: Jeremy Benning©2023 Charles River Media Group, LLCAll Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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103 - Star Trek Picard Computer Playback Supervisor Todd A. Marks
After bickering over Dune, Don and Trevor sit down with the talented Todd A. Marks, a computer/video playback supervisor and projectionist who has worked on iconic productions such as "Star Trek: Picard," "Anchorman 2: The Legend Continues," "Quantum Leap," and "Steve Jobs." Todd delves into the intricacies of video playback in film and TV, sharing behind-the-scenes stories and the technical challenges he's faced in his career. With a rich filmography that also includes work on "The Lost World: Jurassic Park," "Venom," and "Barry," Todd provides a unique perspective on the evolution of visual effects and playback techniques in the entertainment industry. Don and Trevor bicker til the very end...this time over the end of the show. https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Subscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.comStar Trek Picard Video Playback Supervisor Todd A MarksPodcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 0003Release Date: September 24, 2023Duration: 1:16:11Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuest: Todd A. Marks©2023 Charles River Media Group, LLCAll Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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102 - Star Trek Picard Art Director Liz Kloczkowski
In this episode, Don and Trevor, interview Liz Kloczkowski who was an Art Director on Star Trek Picard and Promising Young Woman. Liz shares insights into the role of an art director, the dynamics of the art department in film and TV productions, and her experiences working in the industry. She highlights the recognition and appreciation art directors receive in the Star Trek fandom and discusses the challenges and intricacies of working on sci-fi shows and other genres. Don and Trevor discuss various topics related to Star Trek, including their personal opinions on different Star Trek movies and TV shows, the impact of COVID-19 on the production of recent series, and the evolution of filmmaking techniques over the years. This episode's Hot Topic is the music from Star Trek Picard with a deep dive into Stephen Barton and Frederik Wiedmann's work, including the track "Legacies." https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Subscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.comStar Trek Picard Art Director Liz KloczkowskiPodcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 0002Release Date: September 16, 2023Duration: 1:16:04Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuest: Liz Kloczkowski©2023 Charles River Media Group, LLCAll Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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101 - Star Trek Picard Production Designer Dave Blass
"Star Trek Picard Production Designer Dave Blass"No Win Scenario is your gateway to science fiction entertainment. Don and Trevor will spar over diverse perspectives and dissect popular narratives. Don and Trevor engage with industry experts to explore the day-to-day realities of production and the increasing prominence of mental health concerns in the film and television industry. In this episode, Don and Trevor welcome you to the first episode of No Win Scenario. Future episodes will cover Star Trek, Dune, Babylon 5, The Expanse, Star Wars, Neon Genesis Evangelion and more. This episode features a conversation with Star Trek Picard Production Designer Dave Blass. Podcast: No Win ScenarioEpisode Number: 0001Release Date: September 8, 2023Duration: 1:24:19Hosts: Don Schechter and TrevorGuest: Dave BlassWebsite: https://www.nowinscenariopodcast.comEmail: [email protected] No Win Scenario on X (Formerly Twitter): @nowinscenario Follow No Win Scenario on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61551025621867Subscribe on your favorite platformMental Health Crisis ResourcesIn the US: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264)Or text HELPLINE to 62640Or email [email protected]: visit suicidestop.com©2023 Charles River Media Group, LLCAll Artwork AI created and not meant to represent any real or fictional people.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Star Trek, Dune, Babylon 5, The Expanse, Star Wars, Neon Genesis Evangelion and more — we are your gateway to science fiction entertainment. As we spar over diverse perspectives and dissect popular narratives, you'll be passionately divided, loving and loathing us in equal measure. Tune in as yours hosts, Don and Trevor, engage with industry experts to explore the day-to-day realities of production and the increasing prominence of mental health concerns in the film and television industry.Our initial guests include:Dave Blass (Production Designer, Star Trek Picard)Liz Kloczkowski (Art Director, Star Trek Picard)Todd A. Marks (Computer/Video Playback Supervisor, Star Trek Picard)Jeremy Benning (Cinematographer, The Expanse)Kent Sanderson (President, Acquisitions and Ancillary Distribution at Bleecker Street)David Mack (NY Times Best Selling Author, Star Trek: Picard: Firewall)Jenny R Johnson (Artist)Derek Tyler Attico (Aw
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