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Off The Lot
by Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp
Off The Lot is where serious indie filmmakers level up. Hosted by Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp, this podcast goes beyond the fluff to deliver real, hard-earned lessons from the frontlines of independent filmmaking. Each episode is a masterclass—featuring directors, producers, and creatives who are in the trenches, making movies happen without a safety net. If you want actionable insights, unfiltered conversations, and the blueprint to build your own career outside the studio system—this is the show.
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Inside The Test Screening: Remnant
In this episode of Off The Lot, Anthony reflects on the intensity of his current horror shoot — managing complex elements like fire, special effects, and working with animals, all within tight production constraints. He highlights how the genre demands precision in both timing and execution, and why capturing multiple variations on set is essential to support the edit.Ken shares insights from a recent test screening of Remnant, describing the experience as challenging but invaluable. He emphasizes the importance of honest audience feedback — particularly from non-filmmakers — in revealing what is truly working and what is not.The conversation explores key takeaways from the screening, including clarity of storytelling, pacing, and the strength of the audience’s emotional connection to the protagonist. Ken discusses how this feedback translated into practical adjustments, from ADR to a targeted pickup shoot.The episode concludes with a reflection on additional photography and the realities of post-production, where thoughtful refinements and small changes can have a meaningful impact on the final film.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Directing As An Assistant Director
In this episode of Off The Lot, Anthony Epp reflects on how working as a first assistant director has become one of the most valuable forms of training for his growth as a filmmaker.Drawing from his current experience on Sundowning, he explores the relationship between directing and production — not just creating a vision, but understanding how to execute it within real limits of time and budget. He highlights how the AD role offers a unique vantage point on set, where creative and logistical decisions constantly intersect.The conversation centers on the idea that strong directors must think like both artists and builders. From blocking to coverage and time management, Anthony shares how production knowledge can become creative leverage rather than a constraint.He also touches on the risk of becoming too practical — how understanding production too well can shrink ambition — and why directors need to protect the ideas that truly matter.If you want a grounded look at how directing is shaped by real-world constraints — and why learning production can make you a better filmmaker — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Making It Work: Production Pressure, Test Audiences & Financing Reality
In this episode of Off The Lot, Anthony Epp checks in from the first week of production on his new horror feature, sharing with Ken Kabatoff what it’s like to jump straight into night shoots, complex logistics, and a packed schedule as an assistant director. From managing a challenging mix of elements — including animals, kids, stunts, and special effects — to finding unique locations in British Columbia, he offers a grounded look at the realities of being on set.The conversation also shifts into post-production, as a large test screening approaches for Remnant. Ken breaks down the importance of audience feedback, maintaining clarity without losing mystery, and how small adjustments — from ADR to structure — can reshape a film.The episode wraps with a deeper discussion on film financing, exploring investor relationships, what makes a project commercially viable, and why building the right partnerships is just as critical as the film itself.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Directing In Post Production: A Deep Dive Into The Editing of Remnant
In this episode of Off The Lot, Ken and Anthony break down the realities of moving from production into post — and what it takes to shape a film after the cameras stop rolling.Ken reflects on the final stretch of production and the early lessons that came out of the shoot, from coverage limitations to the impact of tight schedules and indie budgets. The conversation dives into the editing process — from rough cut to director’s cut — and the collaborative workflow with editors, reshaping scenes, refining pacing, and discovering the film in the edit rather than on the page.They also discuss the emotional shift after wrap, the role of test screenings, and the balance between creative vision and practical constraints in post. The episode closes with a candid look at the evolving role of AI in filmmaking, and why human creativity still drives the process.If you want an inside look at how a film evolves in post and what it really takes to push an indie project toward picture lock — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Special Episode: Eyes on the Floor - What Assistant Director Work Teaches About Producing
In this episode of Off The Lot, Anthony Epp takes a solo deep dive into the role of the assistant director — unpacking how films actually come together in the final stages of pre-production.Using his 20 plus years of experience, he breaks down the critical alignment between script, budget, and schedule, and how a screenplay transforms from a creative document into a logistical blueprint for every department. The conversation explores the AD–director relationship, the importance of early problem-solving, and how decisions around locations, setups, and time ultimately shape the film.Anthony also shares a ground-level perspective on production — from managing hundreds of setups to balancing creative ambition with practical constraints, and why communication, clarity, and preparation are what keep a set from falling apart.If you want a real-world understanding of how films are executed, and why the assistant director might be the most important hire on your project — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Build the Career You Can Control
In this episode of Off The Lot, Anthony Epp breaks down what it actually means to start a career in the film industry — especially when you’re starting from zero or coming in later in life.They explore the mindset shift from waiting for permission to taking control, using a stoic framework to focus on what’s within your control: the quality of your work, consistency, collaboration, and preparation. The conversation challenges the idea of “breaking in” through luck, festivals, or gatekeepers, and instead reframes filmmaking as a process built through volume, repetition, and self-generated opportunities.From volunteering on set to making ultra-low-budget projects, they unpack why constraints are often the fastest path forward — and how rejection, lack of resources, and limited access can actually become advantages when approached correctly.If you’re trying to get your foot in the door, build momentum, and create a sustainable path into the industry — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Building Canadian TV That Travels: Erin Haskett On Running One of Canada's Most Prolific Production Companies
In this episode of Off The Lot, Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp sit down with veteran producer Erin Haskett to unpack the evolving landscape of television — from linear broadcast to the streaming-first era.They explore how audience behavior has reshaped storytelling, why pilots matter more than ever, and the challenge of hooking viewers in the first minutes of an episode. The conversation dives into the balance between creative vision and market realities, the role of the producer as both storyteller and strategist, and how projects actually get sold today.Erin also reflects on her path into the industry, the importance of early career hustle, and what makes a great creative partnership — alongside a broader look at where Canadian television is heading in a global market.For insight into modern TV development, producing, and what it takes to build stories that actually connect, check out this episode of Off The LotFollow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Special Episode: How Film Investors Actually Get Paid
In this episode of Off The Lot, Anthony Epp goes solo while Ken focuses on finishing the director’s cut of Remnant, diving into one of the most misunderstood aspects of filmmaking: how money actually flows through a film project.Using the history behind the making of Casablanca as a starting point, Anthony explores the idea that film has always been both art and business. He breaks down why major creative decisions — from casting to release timing — have historically been driven by commercial thinking, and why independent filmmakers need to approach their projects with the same level of financial strategy.The episode then unpacks the mechanics of film financing in Canada, from public funding stacks and federal tax credits to private equity and revenue “waterfalls.” Anthony explains how structures like the Canadian Media Fund and refundable tax credits reduce risk for investors, and why building a clear financial architecture before production is essential for creating sustainable independent films.Real-time look at the financial side of filmmaking, how investors get paid back, and why understanding the business structure behind a film is just as important as the story itself in this week’s episode of Off the Lot.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Inside the Indie Action Film Ruthless Bastards with Director Bruce Fontaine
In this episode of Off The Lot, Anthony Epp sit down with filmmaker, stunt performer, and fight choreographer Bruce Fontaine to discuss his journey from Hong Kong action cinema to directing independent features in Canada.Bruce reflects on his career working in the golden age of Hong Kong filmmaking, performing alongside some of the industry’s biggest martial arts stars before transitioning into directing his own projects. The conversation explores the making of his latest film Ruthless Bastards, the challenges of producing independent action films, and how persistence, networking, and private investment helped bring the project to life.They also dive into the realities of building commercially viable indie films — from casting recognizable names that help sell a movie internationally to designing action sequences that work within tight budgets. Bruce shares insights into why action remains one of the most exportable genres, the importance of prioritizing stunt performance on screen, and his mission to showcase Canadian talent while still making films that travel globally.A candid conversation about independent filmmaking, global action cinema, and what it takes to build commercial genre films outside the traditional studio system in this week's episode of Off the Lot.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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That’s a Wrap! Behind The Scenes of Remnant's Final Days of Production!
In this episode of Off The Lot, Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp check in at the end of production on Remnant — officially wrapping an ambitious 18-day horror shoot.They unpack filming a massive eight-page exorcism sequence with 41 setups in a single day, executing complex stunts and practical fire gags, navigating the pressure of company moves, daylight-dependent exteriors, and zero overtime cushion.Real-time look at wrapping a first feature, balancing creative instinct with business reality, and trusting the prep when the clock is ticking in this week's episode of Off The Lot.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Behind The Scenes of Remnant Week 2! Indie Film Now In Production
In this episode of Off The Lot, Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp check in at the end of week two of production on Remnant — officially crossing the halfway mark of the shoot.They unpack working with veteran actor Kim Coates (Sons of Anarchy, Waterworld), what it’s like directing a performer with 40+ years of experience, and how preparation — without rehearsal days — becomes critical on an indie schedule. Ken reflects on adapting his directing style to different actors, capturing multiple tonal variations for the edit, and why casting truly is 90% of directing.The conversation also dives into the logistics of shooting in a single house location, managing large lighting setups, building a distinct “nightmare world” look through lenses, LUTs, haze, and camera movement, and surviving one of the most difficult seven-page finale days of the shoot — complete with practical fire gags and major technical pivots.Real-time look at navigating performance, pressure, production constraints, and creative problem-solving halfway through a feature in this week's episode of Off the LotFollow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Behind The Scenes of Remnant Week 1: Indie Horror Feature Now In Production
In this episode of Off The Lot, Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp recap the first week of production on Remnant, as Ken officially steps into the director’s chair on his debut feature.They break down the realities of week one — company moves, complex lighting setups, blue-hour stunts, horror sequences, and the constant pressure of making an 18-day schedule work. The conversation explores working with actors versus technicians, discovering performance in the moment, and how “happy accidents” on set can redefine a scene.Ken also reflects on how the film begins to reveal its own language during production — adjusting shot lists, simplifying coverage, maximizing a two-camera setup, and learning how the house location dictates the visual strategy.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Special Episode: How To Find A Private Investor
In Episode 5 of Season 2 of Off The Lot, Anthony Epp goes solo while Ken Kabatoff wraps the first week of production on Remnant.Anthony uses the episode to pull back the curtain on a part of filmmaking many creators avoid: raising money. He shares a candid breakdown of his current sprint to finance The Quiet Canadians, reframing fundraising as direct action instead of endless preparation, refinement, or “pseudo-activity.”The episode focuses on mindset shifts, investor outreach, and why real progress comes from conversations, not pitch decks. Anthony discusses private investment, confidence through repetition, and how filmmakers can reposition themselves from asking for permission to offering meaningful partnerships.If you’re an indie filmmaker struggling with financing, avoidance, or the leap from planning to action — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Time To Shoot! Remnant’s Final Week of Pre-Production!
In this episode of Off The Lot, Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp reflect on the final days of prep as Remnant officially heads into production, opening with a discussion on the passing of Catherine O’Hara and her lasting impact on film and television.They discuss the intensity of week three of pre-production, from major art department transformations and schedule reshuffling to creative decisions around camera strategy, lenses, aspect ratio, and visual texture. The conversation also touches on the current moment in Canadian film and television, legacy creators, and why risk-taking still matters.The episode closes with a look at how preparation, collaboration, and creative commitment shape the first days of a shoot — and what it means to step onto set ready to make decisive choices.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.com/aboutFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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The Devil’s In The Details: Remnant Pre-Production Week 2
In this episode of Off The Lot, Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp share updates from the front lines of indie filmmaking, including early details on the psychological thriller Blue Box.They discuss investor strategy, why genre matters, and the importance of building sustainable, repeatable paths to get films made outside traditional systems.The episode also checks in on pre-production for Ken’s horror feature Remnant, covering department coordination, planning challenges, and the constant balance between creative ambition and logistics.If you want an honest look at how films actually get made before cameras roll — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.comFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Making of "Remnant": Pre-Production Week 1!
Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp dive into the early realities of getting a film off the ground — from reclaiming responsibility over financing to stepping into the chaos of official pre-production.They discuss stepping back from oversubscribed government funding programs to focus on private investors, brand partners, and audience-building, and why waiting for permission can stall momentum.The episode then breaks down the first week of pre-production on Ken’s horror feature Remnant, covering script breakdowns, department meetings, scheduling pressure, and the process of turning a script into a work order.If you want an honest look at real-life filmmaking and the transition from planning to execution — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:www.remnantmovie.comFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:https://kenkabatoff.substack.comFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:www.anthonyepp.comFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Season 2 Premiere! Remnant Goes Into Pre-Production!
In the Season 2 premiere of Off The Lot, hosts Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp get brutally honest about where filmmaking is right now — and what it actually takes to survive (and thrive) as an indie creator.Ken announces that his debut horror feature Remnant is officially greenlit and takes listeners deep into the real nuts and bolts of indie filmmaking: financing setbacks, investor psychology, tax credit loans, crew logistics, and the pressure of personally guaranteeing a first feature.This episode sets the stage for a new weekly format where listeners will follow the making of Remnant week by week, from pre-production through to delivery.If you’re a filmmaker trying to figure out how to move forward in a broken system — this episode is for you.Follow Ken's Indie Horror Feature Remnant here:RemnantFollow Ken Kabatoff's newsletter The Film Founder here:The Film FounderFollow Anthony Epp's newsletter The Filmmaker's Notebook here:The Filmmaker's NotebookFollow Ken & Anthony on Instagram here:@ken_kabatoff@epptri
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Season Finale! From Studio Sets To Indie Film Hustle: Ken and Anthony Recap What It Takes to Greenlight Your Own Indie Film
Eight months. Tons of guests. Countless lessons from the trenches of indie filmmaking. In our Season 1 finale, Ken and Anthony pull back the curtain on their own projects, diving into the wild, unpredictable ride of producing indie films.We talk about:The razor’s edge of indie film financingThe difference (and similarities) between studio & indie filmmakingManifestation, meditation & the mental game of making moviesFinding and working with the right peopleWhy now is the time to make your movie — no excusesPlus — a huge thank you to Peliplat and Craftsman Films for fueling this first season. We’ll be back this fall with an even bigger, better Season 2. Until then… keep creating, keep hustling, and keep telling your stories off the lot.👉 Want to listen to the show? Check out www.offthelotpodcast.com/listen 👉 Want to watch the show? Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@offthelotpodcast💰 Sponsored by Peliplat — Enter monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes. Join at www.peliplat.com/offthelot📚 Sponsored by Craftsman Films — Each week, successful indie producer Daren Smith shares his vast knowledge of indie filmmaking in a highly anticipated newsletter. If you sign up at the link below you'll get access to his must-read book Blockbuster absolutely free! www.craftsmanfilms.co/offthelot🖥️ Follow us on Instagram: @offthelotpod, @ken_kabatoff, @epptri☕️ Help support the show! Buy us a cup of coffee for those long editing nights by leaving a tip here! www.offthelotpodcast.com/support🎯 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe so you don’t miss the Season 2 premiere!
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Why Karen Lam Ditched Law To Direct Award-Winning Horror Films
Ready to peek behind the curtain of indie filmmaking? In this electrifying episode, award-winning director Karen Lam (The Curse of Willow Song, Bring It On: Cheer or Die) sits down to unpack her unique journey from entertainment lawyer to horror auteur.Karen dives deep into her latest projects—Armageddon Road, a supernatural thriller blending innovative volume wall tech with old-school miniature effects, and the award-winning short Mrs. Chang’s Perfect Teeth. Along the way, she offers practical advice for indie filmmakers navigating a changing industry, discusses the indie vs. studio filmmaking balance, and shares essential strategies for filmmakers looking to build sustainable careers without relying on traditional gatekeepers.📌 In this episode, you’ll discover:How Karen financed her latest feature using creative, indie-friendly strategies.Why mixing cutting-edge tech with classic practical effects can elevate your storytelling.The power of creating your own opportunities instead of waiting for "Hollywood to pick you."Insights into how Canadian filmmakers can leverage industry shifts to their advantage.Hit Subscribe to Off The Lot for more candid conversations and practical filmmaking insights!👉 Want to listen to the show? Check out www.offthelotpodcast.com/listen 👉 Want to watch the show? Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@offthelotpodcast💰 Sponsored by Peliplat — Enter monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes. Join at www.peliplat.com/offthelot📚 Sponsored by Craftsman Films — Each week, successful indie producer Daren Smith shares his vast knowledge of indie filmmaking in a highly anticipated newsletter. If you sign up at the link below you'll get access to his must-read book Blockbuster absolutely free! www.craftsmanfilms.co/offthelot🖥️ Follow us on Instagram: @offthelotpod, @ken_kabatoff, @epptri☕️ Help support the show! Buy us a cup of coffee for those long editing nights by leaving a tip here! www.offthelotpodcast.com/support🎙️ Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe so you don't miss a single episode!#KarenLam #IndieFilm #HorrorMovies #FilmmakingTips #WomenInFilm #FilmProduction #OffTheLotPodcast #ArmageddonRoad #MrsChangsPerfectTeeth #FilmmakingAdvice #VancouverFilm #FilmFinance #DirectorLife
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BONUS EPISODE! The New Cinephile Clubhouse: Bob Woolsey On Peliplat & The Future of Film Communities
What if Letterboxd and a writer's room had a baby—and that baby was raised in a video store by cinephiles? That's Peliplat. And in this bonus episode, Off The Lot fave Bob Woolsey returns to break down exactly why Peliplat might be the next big thing for indie filmmakers and film lovers alike.We dive deep into how Peliplat is building a real community for creatives to:Develop IP in a transparent, collaborative way (yes, even in the age of AI)Share cultural perspectives on film that expand how we watch and talk about moviesReclaim the joy of movie discussion outside the noise of social mediaFind your tribe of writers, critics, and cinephiles who care as much as you do🎥 Bob’s been in the trenches for over 15 years — as a writer, director, and educator. If you're serious about building a career in film, you can’t miss this one.👉 Want to watch the show instead? Check out our YouTube channel here: Off The Lot YouTube💰 Sponsored by Peliplat — Enter monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes. Join at Peliplat_OffTheLot📚 Sponsored by Craftsman Films — Each week, successful indie producer Daren Smith shares his vast knowledge of indie filmmaking in a highly anticipated newsletter. If you sign up here you'll get access to his must-read book Blockbuster absolutely free!🖥️ Follow us on Instagram: @offthelotpod, @ken_kabatoff, @epptri☕️ Help support the show! Buy us a cup of coffee for those long editing nights by leaving a tip here!🎙️ Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe so you don't miss a single episode!
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Is Film School Worth It? Former Vancouver Film School Department Head Bob Woolsey On Education, Hustle & Making It In Film
Thinking about film school? Or wondering if you should skip it and just make a movie?🎓 In this episode, filmmaker and former Vancouver Film School department head Bob Woolsey breaks down:What film school actually teaches you (and what it doesn’t)Why networking and teamwork beat theory every timeWhether a $30,000 tuition is worth the ROIHow to break into the industry without formal educationWhy your attitude might matter more than your talent🎥 Bob’s been in the trenches for over 15 years — as a writer, director, and educator. If you're serious about building a career in film, you can’t miss this one.👉 Want to watch the show instead? Check out our YouTube channel here: Off The Lot YouTube💰 Sponsored by Peliplat — Enter monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes. Join at Peliplat_OffTheLot📚 Sponsored by Craftsman Films — Each week, successful indie producer Daren Smith shares his vast knowledge of indie filmmaking in a highly anticipated newsletter. If you sign up here you'll get access to his must-read book Blockbuster absolutely free!🖥️ Follow us on Instagram: @offthelotpod, @ken_kabatoff, @epptri☕️ Help support the show! Buy us a cup of coffee for those long editing nights by leaving a tip here!🎙️ Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe so you don't miss a single episode!
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How MJ Alhabeeb Jr. Made His Award-Winning Feature For $60K and Landed Theatrical Distribution
In this episode, we're joined by indie filmmaker MJ Alhabeeb Jr., whose debut feature Plight is racking up awards and heading to theaters. MJ takes us through his journey from shooting public access TV at 16, to premiering Plight in the very town where it was shot, to landing distribution with Indie Rights—all on a shoestring budget.We dig deep into:How he made Plight for $60KWhy failing forward mattersWhat filmmakers often get wrong about distributionBuilding a film career without the studio systemHis honest advice for every up-and-coming director🎥 This is a must-listen for anyone who’s felt stuck or sidelined in their filmmaking journey. MJ proves you don’t need permission—you just need to get going.📺 Plight is now streaming on Amazon Prime.👉 Want to watch the show instead? Check out our YouTube channel here: Off The Lot YouTube💰 Sponsored by Peliplat — Enter monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes. Join at Peliplat_OffTheLot📚 Sponsored by Craftsman Films — Each week, successful indie producer Daren Smith shares his vast knowledge of indie filmmaking in a highly anticipated newsletter. If you sign up here you'll get access to his must-read book Blockbuster absolutely free!🖥️ Follow us on Instagram: @offthelotpod, @ken_kabatoff, @epptri☕️ Help support the show! Buy us a cup of coffee for those long editing nights by leaving a tip here!🎙️ Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe so you don't miss a single episode!
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Off The Lot Trailer - Level Up Your Indie Film Career Today!
Off The Lot is where serious indie filmmakers level up. Hosted by Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp, this podcast goes beyond the fluff to deliver real, hard-earned lessons from the frontlines of independent filmmaking. Each episode is a masterclass—featuring directors, producers, and creatives who are in the trenches, making movies happen without a safety net. If you want actionable insights, unfiltered conversations, and the blueprint to build your own career outside the studio system—this is the show.Spread the word and help indie filmmakers around the world level up today!
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We Answer Your Toughest Indie Film Questions (Unfiltered Q&A)
This week, we’re answering your burning questions—and holding nothing back.Whether you're stuck in development hell, figuring out how to light your film without pro gear, or wondering how to work with (or walk away from) an investor with strings attached—this episode is for you.We cover:🔥 How to make your indie film look cinematic on a shoestring💰 The financial model that actually gets investors paid back🎭 Directing actors (even when you have zero rehearsal time)🎥 The red flags that should make you walk away from a “dream” investor📽 Why Hollywood won’t “pick” you—and why that’s a good thing🧠 The spiral theory of filmmaking that will change how you prep your moviePlus: Ken drops the real update on Remnant—how close they are to greenlight, and what it means to go all in.🎥 Whether you're an indie filmmaker or a fan of genre movies, this episode is packed with actionable insights, brutal honesty, and a lot of laughs.👉 Want to watch the show instead? Check out our YouTube channel here: Off The Lot YouTube💰 Sponsored by Peliplat — Enter monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes. Join at Peliplat_OffTheLot📚 Sponsored by Craftsman Films — Each week, successful indie producer Daren Smith shares his vast knowledge of indie filmmaking in a highly anticipated newsletter. If you Sign up here you'll get access to his must-read book Blockbuster absolutely free!🖥️ Follow us on Instagram: @offthelotpod, @ken_kabatoff, @epptri📢 Got your own question? Email us at: [email protected]☕️ Help support the show! Buy us a cup of coffee for those long editing nights by leaving a tip here!🎙️ Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe so you don't miss a single episode!
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Final Destination: Bloodlines To Freaks Underground: Co-Director Zach Lipovsky & DP Stirling Bancroft Return To Their Roots With An Indie Sci-Fi Epic | LIVE SHOW
In our first-ever live show, we sit down with the powerhouse duo behind Freaks and the upcoming Freaks Underground — director Zach Lipovsky and cinematographer Stirling Bancroft — to uncover how they pulled off a visually stunning sci-fi indie on a micro-budget and what it takes to keep your voice in this industry.From guerrilla filmmaking in Shaughnessy to shooting volume plates like pros, hear how the team created massive scope on minimal resources, built their careers without waiting for permission, and dove straight into Freaks Underground the day after wrapping Final Destination: Bloodlines.Whether you're an indie filmmaker or a fan of genre movies, this episode is packed with actionable insights, brutal honesty, and a lot of laughs.Watch the episode on YouTube for the full live show experience! https://youtu.be/06Hk70UytMoSponsored by Peliplat — Enter monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes. Join at https://www.peliplat.com/offthelotSponsored by Sunbelt Rentals — Industry-trusted gear and support from https://whites.comSponsored by Daren Smith at Craftsman Films — Sign up at https://www.craftsmanfilms.co/offthelot to get his must-read book Blockbuster absolutely free.
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How a Sundance Rejection Sparked a Film Revolution | Dan Mirvish On Founding Slamdance
What do you do when Sundance says no? If you're Dan Mirvish—you start your own damn festival.In this episode, we sit down with the co-founder of Slamdance Film Festival and self-proclaimed “cheerful subversive” Dan Mirvish. From launching the careers of Christopher Nolan and the Russo Brothers, to literally forcing the Oscars to change their rules, Dan’s career is a masterclass in indie film rebellion.🏆 This episode is sponsored by Peliplat – where passionate minds meet.Enter their monthly writing challenges and win up to $2400 USD in cash prizes!✍️ Join the community at: www.peliplat.com/offthelot👇 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and drop your favorite indie film hustle story in the comments.
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From Crew To Director: Anthony Epp’s Indie Filmmaking Masterclass!
Join us for a captivating deep dive into the world of indie filmmaking with the multi-talented Anthony Epp! Known for his extensive experience—from directing and producing to script coordinating and lighting—Anthony shares invaluable insights from his diverse career. Hear the fascinating story behind his debut feature, 13 Miles, the triathlon drama that took two years of passionate persistence to complete, and is now streaming on Amazon, Tubi, and Apple TV.Special Thanks to Our Sponsor Peliplat! Are you a storyteller with a unique take? Participate in Peliplat’s monthly writing challenges for a chance to win cash prizes up to $2400 USD! Let your creativity shine—join now at www.peliplat.com/offthelot.
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From Netflix To Indie Horror—Ken Kabatoff’s Journey To Remnant
Award-winning writer, director, and co-host Ken Kabatoff takes the hot seat in this deeply personal episode of Off The Lot. From his breakout work on Netflix’s Travelers to receiving the DGC BC Emerging Greenlight Award for his short The Doukhobor, Ken walks us through the grit, the pivots, and the relentless drive that got him here.Now, with his debut feature Remnant on the horizon, Ken shares the hard math of indie film production, the challenge of breaking through the noise, and the strategy behind building sustainable momentum in a saturated industry. It’s a must-watch for anyone trying to make it outside the studio system.📢 Sponsored by Peliplat — the global platform for storytellers and screenwriters. Explore their writing challenges and resources at www.peliplat.com/offthelot
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Mike Johnston Was Named a Producer To Watch—And He’s Just Getting Started
In this jam-packed episode, we sit down with producer Mike Johnston—co-founder of Studio 104 Entertainment—for a deep dive into the creative chaos, financial finesse, and straight-up grit it takes to be an indie producer in Canada.From rat-infested film school basements to launching films at Hot Docs and getting national theatrical releases, Mike takes us through the real behind-the-scenes of building a production company from scratch. We talk about the film that made him fall in love with the craft (Jaws, naturally), the evolution from aspiring director to full-time producer, and the delicate balancing act between art and commerce.
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Two Directors, One Vision—Austin Andrews & Andrew Holmes On Making “The Island Between Tides”
Get ready for a filmmaking masterclass as directors Austin Andrews and Andrew Holmes take us behind the scenes of their supernatural thriller "The Island Between Tides" (known as "The Lost Daughter" in the US). This Emmy-winning duo reveals the raw truth about indie filmmaking: the triumphs, the challenges, and everything in between!
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Indie Film Financing: A Producer's Journey With Amber Ripley
Producer Amber Ripley pulls back the curtain on independent film financing in Canada, sharing her journey from skeptical film school graduate to successful producer with 11 feature films under her belt.
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Behind The Cut: Andrew Gust On Editing Apple TV+'s "The Morning Show"
In this captivating conversation, we explore Andrew Gust's impressive career trajectory from Canadian film school to becoming an editor on Apple TV+'s flagship series "The Morning Show," while maintaining his passion for independent cinema.
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Your Burning Questions Answered: From Indie Film Funding To On-Set Disasters
Ever wondered what happens when a plane literally crashes into your film set? Or how filmmakers actually find money to make their movies? Ken and Anthony rip open the vault in this no-holds-barred Q&A episode, answering the questions that keep indie filmmakers up at night. From the "friends and family" funding reality check to the technical skills that actually matter (spoiler: it's not what film school taught you), this episode is packed with battle-tested wisdom from directors who are making it happen right now. Whether you're debating shorts vs. features or just trying to survive your first production, prepare for the advice you wish someone had given you years ago.
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Beyond The Gatekeepers: Seed & Spark’s Emily Best On Taking Control of Your Indie Film Career
In this game-changing episode, we sit down with Emily Best, the founder and CEO of Seed&Spark who has helped nearly 6,000 indie filmmakers raise OVER $72 MILLION in funding. She drops tactical knowledge about why the traditional film financing model is DEAD and what you need to do RIGHT NOW to build a sustainable filmmaking career.
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Punk Rock Filmmaking: Inside the Festival That Breaks All the Rules—Run N Gun | Joel McCarthy & Sasha Duncan
Filmmakers and creative rebels—RNG REGISTRATION WEEKEND IS UPON US. So buckle up for a raw, unfiltered dive into Vancouver's revolutionary film festival! We sit down with Joel McCarthy and Sasha Duncan, the maverick leaders of Run N Gun - the scrappy 48-hour competition that's transformed from indie underdog to Vancouver's hottest ticket in filmmaking.
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The Profitable Indie Filmmaker: Breaking Free From The Studio System—Daren Smith
This is the episode indie filmmakers CANNOT MISS! Producer Daren Smith delivers a game-changing masterclass on achieving true independence and profitability. Whether you're struggling to fund your first feature or trying to build a sustainable filmmaking career, the strategies revealed in this conversation could completely transform your approach to the business of indie film.
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The Brutal Truth About Film Development: Indie Success Blueprint
"If you can't sell your film, nobody else is going to sell it for you."In this raw and honest episode, we dive deep into the REAL development process of independent films. Not just writing the screenplay, but building the entire system needed to get your film made and seen. This episode is REQUIRED viewing for any filmmaker serious about getting their independent project off the ground. Hit LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and share your development challenges in the comments below!
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Stunts, Shogun, and Indie Feature Films—Lauro Chartrand-Del Valle’s Unreal Journey
What does it take to go from crashing through windows to calling the shots on set? This week, we sit down with legendary stunt coordinator, second unit director, and filmmaker Lauro “Lash” Chartrand-Del Valle, whose career has taken him from blockbuster stunts to directing action-packed films.With over three decades in the industry, Lauro has worked on massive projects, including the FX series Shogun, where he served as stunt coordinator and recently won a SAG Award for Outstanding Performance by a Stunt Ensemble. Now, he’s bringing his expertise to indie films like Protectors of the Land, proving you don’t need a Hollywood budget to create jaw-dropping action.
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From DIY Filmmaker To Feature Director—Ava Maria Safai Is a Talent To Watch
If you’re an indie filmmaker wondering how to level up your career, this episode is for you. In just a few short years, Ava Marie Safai went from directing high school short films to being selected for Vancouver’s prestigious Crazy8s film festival and now she’s making her feature directorial debut with Foreigner–part of Telefilm Canada’s Talent to Watch program.In this episode, we break down how Ava turned ambition into action, secured major funding, and took the leap into feature filmmaking—all on her own terms.Instagram: @offthelotpod@ken_kabatoff@epptriHave a question or topic suggestion? Email us at [email protected]!📢 If you love the show, hit follow, leave a review, and share this episode with your fellow filmmakers! 🎙️
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The Indie Producer’s Survival Guide: Budgets, Crews & Problem-Solving | Amanda Verhagen
This week, Ken and Anthony sit down with Amanda Verhagen, an indie producer, line producer, and founder of Notable Studios. From managing million-dollar budgets to finding creative workarounds, Amanda shares real-world strategies for getting your film made.Whether you’re producing your first indie or looking to level up, this episode is packed with insider knowledge, budgeting tips, and industry wisdom you won’t find anywhere else!Follow us for more filmmaking content:Instagram: @offthelotpodKen Kabatoff – @ken_kabatoff Anthony Epp – @epptriYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@OffTheLotPodcast Got a question or topic suggestion? Email us at [email protected]!Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review to help more indie filmmakers discover the show!
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From Unforgiven to Heretic: A Prop Master’s Filmmaking Journey | Dean Goodine
Ever wondered how the smallest details in a movie can make or break the story? Props aren’t just objects—they’re storytelling tools. And no one knows that better than Dean Goodine, a legendary Hollywood prop master with over 39 years in the business.He’s worked on everything from Unforgiven and Inception to 2024's indie horror juggernaut Heretic, and breakout indie thriller The Order. Today, he’s here to drop major knowledge on how props shape performance, enhance world-building, and why indie filmmakers need to stop overlooking them.If you want to make your indie film feel like a big-budget production, this episode is a MUST-LISTEN.Follow Us for More Filmmaking Content:Instagram: @offthelotpodTikTok: @offthelotpodKen Kabatoff: @ken_kabatoffAnthony Epp: @epptriDean's Must-Read Book: They Don’t Pay Me to Say No: My Life in the Props Department Got a question or topic idea? Email us at [email protected]!
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The Secret Weapon of Filmmaking: How Costume Design Transforms Your Story | Mandi Line
Ever wondered how costumes shape storytelling? Or how a designer goes from styling indie films to crafting iconic looks for hit TV shows?This week we sit down with Mandi Line, the powerhouse costume designer behind Pretty Little Liars, Travelers, The Young and the Restless, and some of the wildest rock music videos of the 2000s (think Linkin Park, Korn, and System of a Down). Mandi shares her raw, no-BS journey from indie films to Hollywood, the intense grind of working on soap operas, and why attitude and relationships matter more than talent in the industry.This episode is pure gold for filmmakers, costume designers, and anyone hustling to break into the industry!Instagram:@offthelotpod@ken_kabatoff@epptri@mandiline
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The Indie Filmmaker’s Guide to Directing Hallmark Movies | Yan-Kay Crystal Lowe
Hallmark movies and indie films are more alike than you think. While these films may be known for their feel-good romance and holiday cheer, behind the scenes, they run like indie films—tight schedules, small budgets, and fast-paced productions.To break it all down, we sit down with Yan-Kay Crystal Lowe, a seasoned actor-turned-director who made the leap behind the camera to helm character-driven Hallmark films. You might know Crystal from Signed, Sealed, Delivered and Primeval: New World, but today, she’s giving us a deep dive into the Hallmark directing process—from navigating tight turnarounds to balancing creativity with a structured formula.This episode is a masterclass in indie-style filmmaking within the TV movie world!Instagram:@offthelotpod@ken_kabatoff@epptri@officialcrystallowe
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The $6K Indie Film That Launched a Hollywood Career | Joshua Caldwell
How do you make a feature film for just $6,000 and turn it into a career? In this episode, we sit down with Joshua Caldwell (Layover, Infamous, Mending the Line) to break down his indie filmmaking journey—from shooting his first feature Layover on a micro-budget to directing multiple films with Hollywood talent.Instagram@offthelotpod@ken_kabatoff@epptri@joshuacaldwelldirector
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From Actor to Director: How Laura Adkin Took Control and Made Her First Feature
In this episode of Off The Lot, we sit down with writer-director Laura Adkin to discuss her indie feature film Re:Uniting (2023). From securing funding to assembling a cast and navigating the challenges of indie filmmaking, Laura shares her journey and hard-earned lessons.💡 If you’re an indie filmmaker looking for inspiration, insight, and practical advice on making a feature film happen no matter what, this episode is for you!Instagram@ken_kabatoff@epptri@lauraadkin
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The Secret to Making Your Indie Film Feel Big (Even on a Micro-Budget)
In this episode, Ken and Anthony discuss the essential role of storytelling in indie filmmaking and how your script can make or break your film. Email us your questions or topic suggestions: [email protected] and follow us on social media!Off The Lot:Instagram: @offthelotpodThreads: @offthelotpodBlue Sky: @offthelot.bsky.socialTikTok: @offthelotpodKen Kabatoff:Instagram: @ken_kabatoffThreads: @ken_kabatoffBlue Sky: @kenkabatoff.comLetterboxd: https://boxd.it/7H0GVAnthony Epp:Instagram: @epptriThreads: @epptriBlue Sky: @anthonyepp.bsky.socialLetterboxd: https://boxd.it/2mdYhDon’t forget to like, subscribe, and share this episode with your fellow filmmakers! 🎙️#IndieFilm #Filmmaking #IndieFilmmaking #FilmProduction #Filmmaker #DIYFilmmaking #NoBudgetFilm #CreativeProcess #FilmmakingTips #BehindTheScenes #SetLife #OffTheLotPodcast #OffTheLot #LearnFilmmaking #IndieFilmCommunity #Storytelling
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How to Make a $30K Horror Movie That Feels Like a Studio Film | The Stickman's Hollow
This week, Ken and Anthony sit down with Jack Cox (director) and Cole Hewlett (producer) to talk about their incredible microbudget horror film, The Stickman’s Hollow. Made on a $30,000 budget, this found footage feature captures the eerie tale of Clara Hall, a child allegedly suffering from demonic possession, told through four chilling perspectives.Email us your questions or topic suggestions: [email protected] and follow us on social media!Off The Lot:Instagram: @offthelotpodThreads: @offthelotpodBlue Sky: @offthelot.bsky.socialTikTok: @offthelotpodKen Kabatoff:Instagram: @ken_kabatoffThreads: @ken_kabatoffBlue Sky: @kenkabatoff.comLetterboxd: https://boxd.it/7H0GVAnthony Epp:Instagram: @epptriThreads: @epptriBlue Sky: @anthonyepp.bsky.socialLetterboxd: https://boxd.it/2mdYhDon’t forget to like, subscribe, and share this episode with your fellow filmmakers! 🎙️#IndieFilm #Filmmaking #IndieFilmmaking #FilmProduction #Filmmaker #DIYFilmmaking #NoBudgetFilm #CreativeProcess #FilmmakingTips #BehindTheScenes #SetLife #OffTheLotPodcast #OffTheLot #LearnFilmmaking #IndieFilmCommunity #Storytelling
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Be Your Own Gatekeeper: How to Greenlight Your Own Movie Right Now
In the debut episode, Ken and Anthony introduce Off The Lot and share their own filmmaking journeys—how they got started, the lessons they’ve learned, and why now is the perfect time to take on independent projects. They break down how to start your own film, maximize limited resources, and build a filmmaking community to help you succeed.Email us your questions or topic suggestions: [email protected] us on social media!Off The Lot:Instagram: @offthelotpodThreads: @offthelotpodBlue Sky: @offthelot.bsky.socialTikTok: @offthelotpodKen Kabatoff:Instagram: @ken_kabatoffThreads: @ken_kabatoffBlue Sky: @kenkabatoff.comLetterboxd: https://boxd.it/7H0GVAnthony Epp:Instagram: @epptriThreads: @epptriBlue Sky: @anthonyepp.bsky.socialLetterboxd: https://boxd.it/2mdYh#IndieFilm #Filmmaking #IndieFilmmaking #FilmProduction #Filmmaker #DIYFilmmaking #NoBudgetFilm #CreativeProcess #FilmmakingTips #BehindTheScenes #SetLife #OffTheLotPodcast #OffTheLot #LearnFilmmaking #IndieFilmCommunity #Storytelling
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Off The Lot is where indie filmmakers get real. Hosted by Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp, the show digs into the grind, craft, and business of independent filmmaking—featuring directors, producers, writers, and industry pros who’ve built their careers outside the studio system. No fluff. Just practical insights from people who’ve done the work.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Off The Lot is where serious indie filmmakers level up. Hosted by Ken Kabatoff and Anthony Epp, this podcast goes beyond the fluff to deliver real, hard-earned lessons from the frontlines of independent filmmaking. Each episode is a masterclass—featuring directors, producers, and creatives who are in the trenches, making movies happen without a safety net. If you want actionable insights, unfiltered conversations, and the blueprint to build your own career outside the studio system—this is the show.
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