Off the Map

Off the Map explores the people, places, and experiences shaping Canada’s tourism landscape beyond the usual routes. Hosted by Conor Phillips, the podcast brings listeners into thoughtful conversations with tourism operators, experience creators, and community builders who are doing things differently.In this episode, Conor speaks with Kim Yeaman, owner of Brennan’s Hill Camping and Cabins in South River, Ontario, about building a 100-acre off-grid campground rooted in sustainability, quiet, nature connection, and intentional guest experiences.Their conversation also explores the realities facing Canada’s small tourism operators, from marketing and visibility challenges to the need for better access to resources, more practical support, and growth models that value depth of experience over sheer volume.

Off the Map explores the people, places, and experiences shaping Canada’s tourism landscape beyond the usual routes. Hosted by Conor Phillips, the podcast brings listeners into thoughtful conversations with tourism operators, experience creators, and community builders who are doing things differently.In this episode, Conor speaks with Salma Burney, co-owner of Off-Grid Adventure in New Brunswick, about sustainable off-grid living, horse camping, dark-sky tourism, equine wellness, and the realities of building a tourism business rooted in nature, resilience, and rest. Their conversation also explores the bigger challenges facing Canada’s small tourism operators, from visibility and insurance to the growing need for domestic, sustainable travel.