Over Abstraction

Tim Beiko runs the all core dev calls at the Ethereum Foundation. In this episode we discuss: -the Ethereum roadmap -the impact of protocol upgrades -blobs -summer of protocols Follow Tim: https://twitter.com/TimBeiko Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 2:05 Tim’s background 7:13 Tim’s experience running all core dev calls at the EF 11:37 Ethereum implementations that are top of mind 14:23 The Ethereum roadmap 17:35 Spinning up a client in “stateless mode” 19:43 Setting priorities in all core dev calls 22:41 Blobs 31:08 How impactful is this protocol upgrade? 34:43 Protocol guild 41:02 Summer of Protocols 44:24 Spiciest Summer of Protocols take 53:14 Follow Tim

Nader is the head of Developer Relations at Avara. On this episode, we discuss: - decentralized social - web3 gaming - DevRel at Avara Follow Nader: https://twitter.com/dabit3 Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 4:00 Nader’s background 7:45 Avara 9:22 Lens 12:06 The fetaverse 12:36 Decentralized social 17:07 What can be on-chain and off-chain in decentralized social 18:15 How Lens works 21:10 Helping devs choose an infrastructure to build on 25:57 What does sufficient decentralization mean to you? 30:46 Decentralization and web3 gaming 33:55 The latency issue with web3 gaming 36:37 Intents 39:12 Data migration 40:57 Axie Infinity 43:09 The Avara acquisition of Family 45:54 Advice for devs entering web3 49:20 Nader’s GitHub 51:10 Follow Nader 51:29 Outro

Hudson is a VP at Polygon Labs, he previously ran the Ethereum all devs calls at the EF. EIP-1 Early days of Ethereum Social consensus Follow Hudson: https://twitter.com/hudsonjameson Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 2:49 Hudson’s background 8:04 EIP 1 11:43 Learnings from running all core dev calls at EF 17:13 How all dev core dev calls have evolved over time 22:46 Looking to the future of Ethereum 30:25 Pros and cons of enshrining things to the protocol 35:17 Being VP of community at Polygon 40:24 How Ethereum has evolved over time 45:50 Follow Hudson! 46:12 Hudson’s cats and Outro

Preston is an Ethereum Core Dev and co-founder at Prysm Labs. Early “ETH 2.0” history and the shift to proof-of-stake Pre-merge anxieties and how Prysm navigated the merge What it’s like to build a consensus client Follow Preston: https://twitter.com/preston_vanloon Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 2:26 Preston’s journey 9:49 Prysm’s beginnings 13:01 The turning point for Prysm 15:16 Prysm V1 18:09 Ethereum speck history 27:05 Client Diversity 32:33 Post merge 37:36 Offchain Labs acquires Prysm 42:10 Preston’s learnings and advice 44:47 How devs can contribute to the space 47:24 Follow Preston 47:53 Outro

Alberto is the co-founder and tech lead of Yield Protocol. In this episode, we talk: The history of lending on Ethereum How defi protocols have evolved Check out Alberto's article: https://hackernoon.com/borrowing-on-ethereum-comparing-architecture-evolution-of-makerdao-yield-aave-compound-and-euler Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Follow Alberto: https://twitter.com/alcueca Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 3:05 Alberto’s background 7:39 DeFi lending lanscape from a high level 13:15 Over collateralization 14:29 DeFi’s target user 17:01 Introduction of the money market concept in 2018 19:32 Compound V2 26:42 Pooled liquidity on Aave V1 31:38 Single and multi collateral Dai 36:20 DeFi summer 39:40 Yield V2 and Aave V2 42:41 Collateral as a token 46:49 Follow Alberto 47:40 Outro

Kevin and Zakk from Gitcoin join the show to discuss: Gitcoin’s overarching mission Designing protocols for public good Modular protocol design When code becomes governable Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/owocki Follow Zakk: https://twitter.com/0xZakk Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 2:05 Kevin’s background 3:09 Zakk’s background 6:13 Under the hood of Allo 8:24 Learnings from building Allo 9:43 Difference between singleton and factory pattern 11:21 Benefits of using singleton pattern 15:04 Open contribution and Gitcoin’s evolution 19:18 Configuration vs. convention 22:28 The future of Allo 25:04 Allo’s structure for community contribution 28:22 When code becomes governable 34:11 Modularity within the Gitcoin ecosystem 37:30 Underrated tools 38:19 Zakk’s spicy takes 39:03 Kevin’s cooler takes 41:45 Follow Zakk, Kevin, Allo and Gitcoin 42:43 Outro

Miguel is the tech lead at Diva and CEO at Shamir Labs (the organization building Diva). In this episode, we discuss: Today’s staking landscape Challenges with staking Distributed Validator Technology (DVT) Under the hood of Diva Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Follow Miguel: https://twitter.com/pradavc Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 2:47 Miguel’s background 4:47 What problem in Diva solving? 6:51 Today’s liquid staking landscape 9:24 The dangers of increasing centralized staked eth 11:06 Distributed validator technology (DVT) 11:59 Diva 13:52 Cost to run a diva node 17:30 Specifics of how Diva works 25:07 Distributed key generation 26:35 Choosing a cryptographic standard 30:38 Side effects and benefits to working on Diva 32:53 Incentivizing operators 34:30 Diva tokens 35:30 Rebasing alternative 37:40 Closing thoughts 42:38 Follow Miguel and Diva 43:26 Outro

Asta is the co-founder and CTO of Privy. In this episode, we discuss: Embedded wallets How privy works under the hood Shamir secret sharing (and why Privy uses it) Privy security threat models Future of account abstraction Follow Asta: https://twitter.com/asta_li Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 2:48 Privy overview 3:39 Asta’s Background 4:16 Embedded wallets 5:39 How Privy works 9:15 Privy as the bridge between web2 and web3 11:14 How key generation happens within Privy 16:41 Privy experience across devices 21:17 Different levels of security for different apps 23:51 friend.tech security 26:17 Attack concerns 28:52 Attacks on embedded wallets 32:50 Interoperability 38:56 The future of wallets 43:06 Building wallets vs. building autonomous vehicles 45:30 Follow Asta 45:50 Outro

In this episode, Kevin and Chase dive into Vitalik’s article: Should Ethereum be okay with enshrining more things in the protocol? We discuss: Implementing account abstraction into Ethereum protocol Why enshrinement helps reduce gas costs Balancing flexibility and efficiency Benefits of enshrinement Where enshrinement backfires Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 1:44 Enshrinement at a high level 3:21 Protocol minimalism 4:48 Tradeoffs with introducing these standards at the protocol level 7:38 Why enshrinement is cost beneficial 10:31 Community response and responsibility 11:58 Hard forking 14:29 Benefits of enshrinement 17:57 When enshrinement could backfire 19:30 Closing Thoughts 22:03 Outro Vitalik’s Blog Post: https://vitalik.eth.limo/general/2023/09/30/enshrinement.html

This episode is a re-run with Santiago Palladino, who is an engineer at Aztec Network. In this episode, we discuss: ZKPs changing the public and private data paradigms How developers should think about designing with ZKPs War stories from Open Zeppelin ___________________________ Follow Santiago: @smpalladino Follow Metropolis: @0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: @kevin_weaver Follow Chase: @chaserchapman ____________________________________ Check out Metropolis Subscribe to Over Abstraction on YouTube ____________________________________ Timecodes (00:00) - Episode Highlight (00:35) - Intro (00:46) - What to expect from this episode (01:28) - Meet Santiago Palladino from Aztec Network (05:22) - Creating standards at Open Zeppelin (09:12) - Upgradable contracts and standardization (10:26) - Building Aztec (14:54) - Paradigm shifts in zero knowledge proofs (19:38) - Unconstrained development (23:39) - UX of public and private transactions (28:08) - Exciting use cases of zero knowledge proofs (30:36) - Building an ecosystem to enable zero knowledge proofs (34:33) - Trade-offs when building Noir (36:13) - Learning curve for Noir (38:25) - Future vision for zero knowledge (42:20) - What data should be public vs private? (46:45) - Start building ZKP applications (50:31) - Development war stories (56:01) - Connect with Santiago online (56:33) - Ending

James (emo.eth) is a smart contract developer working on Seaport. On this episode we talk: Overview of Seaport architecture How zones unlock new types of dynamics Turning Seaport testing suite into a CSP (and the future of testing for market-based systems) Redeemables (EIP7498) and other burgeoning NFT standards Future of royalty enforcement Harberger taxes and potential for new types of revenue Follow James: https://twitter.com/emo_eth/ Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 1:59 James’ background 3:31 Why Seaport 5:16 What is the architecture of Seaport 7:48 Sufficient decentralization 11:39 Protocol constraints and zones 17:41 NFT standards 19:05 Harberger taxes 21:17 Royalties 23:26 Orbs 25:17 Enforcing fees 28:48 The issue of testing 30:39 Constraint satisfaction Problems (CSPs) 34:11 Rust 36:51 Shipyard 38:54 The importance of developer experience in crypto 40:18 What experiments James would like to see 42:13 Underrated dev tools 43:32 Follow James

Tom and Jake are maintainers of wagmi, viem, and rivet. On this episode we talk: Type safety and the EVM Why they built wagmi and viem Optimizing for performance with viem How the dev tooling ecosystem in Ethereum has evolved over time Developer wallets and rivet Follow Tom: https://twitter.com/awkweb Follow Jake: https://twitter.com/_jxom Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes [WIP] 0:00 Intro 2:12 Tom’s background 4:01 Jake’s background 5:38 How wagmi got started 9:18 Overview of wagmi 11:02 Benefits of wagmi 12:42 Overview of viem 18:03 Optimizing viem 19:24 RLP serialization 21:21 Strong typing in the Ethereum ecosystem 24:23 The drama with DHH 27:08 Rivet 32:17 Typescript and Rust 34:12 anviljs 36:11 Areas where web3 dev experience could be improved 39:05 Wagmi CLI 43:00 Shilling cool tools 47:46 Outro

Richard Meissner is a co-founder of Safe. In this episode, we discuss: Major EIPs related to account abstraction Why fragmentation and vendor lock-in are massive challenges with AA Creating a modular system for standardizing AA Follow Richard: https://twitter.com/rimeissner Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timecodes 0:00 Intro 1:56 Welcome Richard 2:46 Richard’s background 5:21 How Safe has evolved 8:02 Overview of current standards and EIPs 15:53 Fragmentation, vendor lock in and security 21:47 Overview of Safe Protocol 27:44 Complexity of modules 35:03 Incentivizing the ecosystem 41:36 The future of cross chain account abstraction 45:47 How far along are we? 50:53 Tools that developers should check out 52:06 Follow Richard 52:43 Outro

Horsefacts.eth is an independent smart contract engineer. In this episode, we discuss: Deep dive into Farcaster’s architecture Implementing “sufficient decentralization” Leveraging standards vs. bespoke smart contract architecture How smart contract devs should approach testing ___________________________ Links to Horsefacts’ recommended tools: Certora - https://www.certora.com/ Halmos - https://github.com/a16z/halmos Foundry - https://github.com/foundry-rs/foundry ___________________________ Follow Horsefacts: https://twitter.com/eth_call Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman ___________________________ Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... ___________________________ Timecodes 0:00 Intro 1:39 Welcome Horsefacts 2:09 Horsefacts’ background 8:33 Smart contract design in DeFi compared to consumer applications 12:11 Intro to Farcaster 13:06 Farcaster Hubs 13:53 Sufficient decentralization on Farcaster 16:13 When to use standards 20:10 FIDs 22:40 Comparing Farcaster with other web3 social apps 24:00 EdDSA vs. ECDSA 25:13 Migrating data to new contracts on Farcaster 28:12 Tradeoffs between L1s and L2s 29:33 Testing on an L2 vs. an L1 30:57 Benefits of working in the EVM 33:37 Approaches to testing 38:20 Formal verification 39:49 Tools worth checking out 41:45 Follow Horsefacts 42:33 Outro

Andrew is currently building at Dune. In this episode, we discuss: Dune’s architecture How new data types will change indexible onchain data Learnings from building for consumers at Mirror Why standards matter (and why they’re often ignored by teams) Follow Andrew: https://twitter.com/andrewhong5297 Follow Metropolis: https://twitter.com/0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: https://twitter.com/kevin_weaver Follow Chase: https://twitter.com/chaserchapman Check out https://www.metropolis.space/ Subscribe to Over Abstraction on Spotify and Apple Podcasts https://open.spotify.com/show/1TEKcyg... Timestamps 0:00 Intro 1:16 Welcome Andrew 1:49 Andrew’s background 3:27 Life as a data scientist at Mirror.xyz 4:58 Optimization of infrastructure 6:50 Learnings from optimistic signing architecture 11:33 Brief overview of Dune 13:04 Deeper dive into Dune 15:38 Why teams use Dune 16:49 Coming soon: data privacy on Dune 18:42 New types of data moving forward on Dune 22:42 Thoughts on the Safe Protocol whitepaper 28:04 Privacy specific ZKPs 30:11 Privacy and accountability 31:59 The intersection of onchain analytics and AI 42:31 Advice for technical builders creating for non-technical consumers 45:16 The most interesting Dune Dashboards 45:49 The most cursed Dune Dashboard 46:36 Surprising Solana Analytics 48:51 Tools other devs should be using 49:47 Follow Andrew 50:15 Outro DISCLAIMER: The information in this video is the opinion of the speaker(s) only and is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). For investment or legal advice, please seek a duly licensed professional.

On this episode, we highlight best practices and patterns for contract development as told by 6 leaders in protocol design: 1. Ross Campbell from Kali, Nani, and Lex DAO 2. Santiago Palladino from Aztec 3. DCBuilder from Worldcoin 4. Steve Klebanoff from PartyDAO 5. Jenny Pollack from DappHub 6. Wilson Cusack from Coinbase ___________________________ Follow Wilson: @WilsonCusack Follow Metropolis: @0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: @kevin_weaver Follow Chase: @chaserchapman Follow Steve: @steveklbnf Follow Jenny:@Jenny_Pollack Follow DCbuild3r: ⁠⁠@DCbuild3r⁠⁠ Follow Santiago: ⁠ ⁠⁠@smpalladino⁠ Follow Ross: ⁠⁠⁠@z0r0zzz⁠ ____________________________________ Check out Metropolis Subscribe to Over Abstraction on YouTube ____________________________________ Timecodes (00:00) Intro (00:56) Breaking into crypto as a developer (DC Builder) (04:00) Getting started with a smart contract project (Wilson Cusack) (05:46) Learning zero knowledge proofs (Santiago Palladino) (08:43) Designing modular systems and protocols (Steve Klebanoff) (12:52) Legal Design Principles for Smart Contract Developers (Ross Campbell) (17:29) Upgradability Patterns and Versioning (Jenny Pollack) (21:29) Maintaining objectivity for upgradability (Santiago Palladino) (22:46) Account Abstractions and Intents (Jenny Pollack) (33:33) Gas Optimization Tradeoffs (Ross Campbell) (37:52) Learnings from protocol design (Wilson Cusack) (41:12) Ending

Wilson is currently building at Coinbase. On this episode, we discuss: Applying game theory to smart contract development Contract and protocol design patterns Increasing shipping velocity of smart contracts Parallels between chess and solidity _____________________________ Follow Wilson: @WilsonCusack Follow Metropolis: @0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: @kevin_weaver Follow Chase: @chaserchapman ____________________________________ Check out Metropolis Subscribe to Over Abstraction on YouTube ____________________________________ Timecodes (0:00) - Episode Highlight (0:42) - What to expect from this episode (1:37) - Meet Wilson Cusack from Coinbase (7:13) - Building projects for fun in the crypto ecosystem (10:50) - Shipping solidity fast and breaking things (12:38) - Influence of Squeeth on building Papr and Backed (26:29) - Key learnings from solidity development and protocol design (29:34) - On-Chain Infrastructure (31:31) - Pushing boundaries of NFT lending (34:18) - Building Noun 4 and voters.wtf (36:37) - Contributing to DAOs as a developer (37:43) - Design patterns for smart contracts (39:44) - What solidity engineers can learn from chess (40:43) - Connect with Wilson online

Steve Klebanoff is currently building at Party DAO. On this episode, we talk about a multitude of topics such as: Evolution of web3 Design patterns around mutability Building generalized protocols for niche users ___________________________ Follow Steve: @steveklbnf Follow Metropolis: @0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: @kevin_weaver Follow Chase: @chaserchapman ____________________________________ Check out Metropolis Subscribe to Over Abstraction on YouTube ____________________________________ Timecodes (00:00) - Episode Highlight (00:46) - Intro (00:56) - What to expect from this episode (01:39) - Meet Steve Klebanoff from PartyDAO (13:45) - Designing smart contracts vs creative projects (16:23) - Party DAO Overview (23:46) - Building new primitives for PartyBid (26:04) - Party Protocol Overview (29:46) - Generalized smart contracts for niche use cases (31:41) - Building using existing tools vs building in-house (37:13) - Opinionated development (45:41) - Designing modular systems (50:03) - Upgradability within PartyDAO (52:17) - Connect with Steve online (53:12) - Ending

Jenny Pollack has worked as the Head of Product for AAVE, Security Researcher for Dapp Hub, and as a Software Engineer at Metamask. On this episode, we talk about a multitude of topics such as: Developer tools and infrastructure support Account abstractions Application perspectives v/s UX perspectives ___________________________ Follow Jenny: @Jenny_Pollack Follow Metropolis: @0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: @kevin_weaver Follow Chase: @chaserchapman ____________________________________ Check out metropolis.space Subscribe to Over Abstraction on YouTube ____________________________________ Timecodes (00:00) - Episode Highlight (00:36) - Intro (00:45) - What to expect from this episode (01:30) - Meet Jenny Pollack (04:50) - Dapp Hub overview (08:13) - Upgradability and versioning patterns (12:30) - Forking best practices (16:02) - Evolution of the crypto ecosystem (19:54) - Account Abstraction (23:58) - Intents (26:35) - Future of account abstraction (31:06) - Applications vs Wallets (34:23) - Creating standards at AAVE (39:30) - Vertical Integration of Wallets (44:12) - Dynamic between Account Abstraction and Intents (49:12) - Exciting initiatives in crypto (53:07) - Connect with Jenny online (53:40) - Ending

DCbuild3r is a researcher and engineer at ⁠Worldcoin⁠. On this episode, we discuss: What happens from a user's iris scan to being issued a World ID Trust assumptions baked into Worldcoin Clarifying misconceptions about Worldcoin data storage Orb audits Disclaimer: DCbuild3r does not speak on behalf of Worldcoin, only for himself. For more information on Worldcoin, visit https://whitepaper.worldcoin.org/. ___________________________ Follow DCbuild3r: ⁠@DCbuild3r⁠ Follow Metropolis: ⁠@0xMetropolis⁠ Follow Kevin: ⁠@kevin_weaver⁠ Follow Chase: ⁠@chaserchapman⁠ ____________________________________ Check out ⁠Metropolis⁠ Subscribe to ⁠Over Abstraction on YouTube⁠ ____________________________________ Timecodes (00:00:00)-Episode Highlight (00:01:01)-Intro (00:01:10)-What to expect from this episode (00:01:57)-Meet DC Builder from Worldcoin (00:05:09)-Transitioning from research to development (00:07:10)-Early experiences in crypto (00:08:48)-Development design patterns (00:12:01)-Hands on learning for devs (00:18:14)-Overview of Worldcoin (00:27:01)-Worldcoin App (00:28:18)-End to end Worldcoin user flow and data handling (00:34:09)-What Worldcoin does with your data (00:36:50)-Improving the Worldcoin algorithm (00:41:38)-Tradeoffs between privacy and user experience (00:44:39)-Sources of trust in Worldcoin (00:48:10)-Orb Tamper Mechanism (00:49:27)-System for Auditing Worldcoin (00:55:27)-Worldcoin token (00:58:18)-Dealing with skepticism around crypto (01:00:18)-Improving Worldcoins public perspective (01:03:51)-Connect with DCBuilder online

Santiago Palladino is an engineer at Aztec Network. In this episode, we discuss: ZKPs changing the public and private data paradigms How developers should think about designing with ZKPs War stories from Open Zeppelin ___________________________ Follow Santiago: @smpalladino Follow Metropolis: @0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: @kevin_weaver Follow Chase: @chaserchapman ____________________________________ Check out Metropolis Subscribe to Over Abstraction on YouTube ____________________________________ Timecodes (00:00) - Episode Highlight (00:35) - Intro (00:46) - What to expect from this episode (01:28) - Meet Santiago Palladino from Aztec Network (05:22) - Creating standards at Open Zeppelin (09:12) - Upgradable contracts and standardization (10:26) - Building Aztec (14:54) - Paradigm shifts in zero knowledge proofs (19:38) - Unconstrained development (23:39) - UX of public and private transactions (28:08) - Exciting use cases of zero knowledge proofs (30:36) - Building an ecosystem to enable zero knowledge proofs (34:33) - Trade-offs when building Noir (36:13) - Learning curve for Noir (38:25) - Future vision for zero knowledge (42:20) - What data should be public vs private? (46:45) - Start building ZKP applications (50:31) - Development war stories (56:01) - Connect with Santiago online (56:33) - Ending

Ross Campbell is building at Kali, Nani, and LexDAO. In this episode, we explore: What Solidity developers can learn from legal contracts Building onchain primitives Balancing the trade-offs between gas optimization and legibility ___________________________ Follow Ross: @z0r0zzz Follow Metropolis: @0xMetropolis Follow Kevin: @kevin_weaver Follow Chase: @chaserchapman ____________________________________ Check out Metropolis Subscribe to Over Abstraction on YouTube ____________________________________ Timecodes (00:00) - Episode Highlight (00:27) - Intro (00:38) - What to expect from this episode (02:21) - Meet Ross Campbell, from LexDAO, Kali, and Nani (07:52) - Transitioning from a career in law to a career in smart contract development (10:08) - Legal design principles for smart contract developers (14:40) - The bundle of sticks and on chain primitives (21:01) - Unpacking Kali DAO and trust assumptions in the legal system (23:20) - Standardizing the connection between the legal system and smart contract development (28:24) - Tradeoffs around gas optimization (32:44) - Contract design and account abstraction (36:51) - Favoring 1155 and NFTs over ERC 20s (44:10) - Delegation of permissions from a legal and smart contract perspective (49:35) - Delegating permissions to AI (55:34) - Ross Campbells spiciest crypto bear market take (56:26) - Connect with Ross online (57:26) - Ending

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