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Rebuild:LA
by MySafe:LA
When the firestorms of January 2025 raged through the Pacific Palisades and Altadena, they left 31 people dead and historic destruction in their wake. Recovery will be a long, uphill road, and rebuilding will take years and dedicated planning. This podcast takes a deep dive into the circumstances that led to the fires, how people can prepare for future wildfires - which are inevitable - and how Angeleños can come together to rebuild our beautiful city.Rebuild:LA is the proud winner of the 2025 Award of Excellence from the Communicator Awards, the 2025 Silver W3 Award, and the 2026 Silver NYX Award for podcasting!
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Rebuild:LA Episode 074: Why Are The Palisades and Altadena So Slow to Recover with Politico’s Liam Dillon
Send us Fan Mail38%. That’s the surprisingly small percentage of residents who have rebuilt after wildfires in California since 2017. Recent building permit requests and housing starts in Pacific Palisades and Altadena are even smaller in number. What many elected officials promised would be the fastest recovery on record after the January 2025 Firestorm has not materialized. Why? That’s what host Cameron Barrett asked journalist Liam Dillon this week on Rebuild:LA. He’s been writing on politics and policy in Los Angeles for the last 15 years. It was his article last fall in the Los Angeles Times that uncovered the 38% statistic, and another, more recent article of his in POLITICO specifically looks at the recovery in Palisades and Altadena. Why aren’t California wildfire victims rebuilding? Liam Dillon lays out his findings in this, the first episode in a two-part series.Resources:California leaders promised fire recovery in record time. Los Angeles isn’t seeing it. POLITICO22,500 homes lost. Over five years later, only 38% rebuilt: What California fire survivors face - Los Angeles TimesSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 073: Is LA’s Recovery On Track to Survive Another Climate Disaster? With LA Deputy Mayor Randall Winston (Part II)
Send us Fan MailLast week on Rebuild:LA, host Cameron Barrett welcomed LA’s Deputy Mayor of Infrastructure and Climate Resilience, Randall Winston, to the show. The conversation was mostly about the first part of his title - infrastructure. What was LA doing to repair the Palisades and ensure it could withstand the ongoing threat from wildfires? This week, it’s about the second half of his title - Climate Resilience. Mayor Bass recently released her Climate Action Plan, and the Palisades Fire figures heavily in it. Winston lays out the mayor’s plan for not only a greener, more carbon-neutral city, but also a place tens of thousands of international visitors will want to flock to by summer 2028, when LA hosts the Olympic Games.Resources:Mayor Bass Climate RoadmapMayor Bass Climate Action PlanMayor Bass and Supervisor Barger with TrumpSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 072: Will Los Angeles Finally See the Federal Disaster Relief Dollars Promised to Us? With LA Deputy Mayor Randall Winston (Part I)
Send us Fan MailOn April 22, 2026, LA Mayor Karen Bass and LA County Supervisor Kathryn Barger traveled to Washington, D.C. to meet with President Donald Trump in the Oval Office. Their purpose? To find out when long-promised federal disaster recovery funds would arrive to help Los Angeles rebuild. Without those dollars, LA can’t repair the roads in the Palisades, underground electrical power lines, fix infrastructure destroyed in the firefight, or continue to help Palisadians return to their homes. While both sides came away from the meeting saying the talks were “very positive,” were they productive? That’s what we asked the city’s Deputy Mayor of Infrastructure and Climate Resilience. Randall Winston came into the job with a clear path forward. But that path changed dramatically on January 6, 2025, with the Palisades Fire. In the first of two episodes with the Deputy Mayor, host Cameron Barrett finds out if those federal dollars are on the way, and what they’ll be used for if they arrive.Resources:Mayor Bass Climate RoadmapMayor Bass Climate Action PlanBass and Barger Meet with TrumpSupport the show
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Episode 071: How Do You Rebuild Community with Juliet Curry of the Palisades Community Renewal Center
Send us Fan MailCommunity. It’s a hard thing to define, and even harder to quantify. When the Palisades Fire swept through Los Angeles and Malibu, people didn’t just lose their homes, their schools, churches, and synagogues, their coffee shops, restaurants, and grocery stores. Perhaps most importantly, they lost each other - they lost community. Host Cameron Barrett speaks with Juliet Curry, the Director of the Palisades Community Renewal Center, about community this week. Curry and her dedicated team at PCRC offer a place where those affected by the fire can get mental health services, take part in family art classes, experience sound baths and yoga classes, all while sipping some really good coffee. In other words, they’re offering a chance to find community again.Resources:Palisades Community Renewal CenterMaple CounselingServices with Maple Counseling at the PCRCPicerne Family FoundationZentanglesSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 070: The New LAFD Ambassador to the Palisades Is Ready and Waiting to Help You Rebuild
Send us Fan Mail15 months after the Palisades Fire, the Los Angeles City Fire Department is still under a microscope regarding their response times, emergency notifications to residents, and pre-deployment decisions. But that's not stopping them from taking an active role in helping residents get permits and permissions to rebuild. The fire department is integral in the process, and with more than 6,000 structures lost to the fire, it was clear to the LAFD and city government as a whole that building red tape could be a nightmare if not streamlined. That's where LAFD Captain Dwayne Laurent comes in. Our guest this week is the new LAFD Ambassador to the Palisades, recently named by the new Fire Chief, Jaime Moore. Host Cameron Barrett asks him all about his new assignment and how the rebuilding process is shaping up in the Palisades.LA City's Rebuild and ReturnPalisades Inspections and Permitting Support CenterLA Recovery ResourcesMySafe:LA Can Help With Wildfire Risk AssessmentsSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 069: Can We Actually Build a Fireproof House? Gary Hendren of S.A.M. House Might Have Already Invented One
Send us Fan MailIn this day of increasing climate disasters, it might be time to start thinking outside the wood frame box when it comes to building homes in the Wildland Urban Interface. At least that’s what Gary Hendren from S.A.M. House is hoping people will do when they’re ready to rebuild their homes in Pacific Palisades, Altadena, and Malibu. On this week’s episode, host Cameron Barrett talks to Hendren about the new building material he’s invented that has passed rigorous wind and fire tests. And it’s fabricated right here in California. S.A.M. stands for Sustainable, Alternative, and Modular, three things Hendren wants Los Angeles residents to keep in mind when building for the future.Resources:S.A.M. HouseOnly 38% of Fire Survivors RebuildSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 068: What Will Become of the Palisades Bowl with Jon Brown
Send us Fan MailIt was more than a year ago (Episodes 019 and 020) when we first met Jon Brown and heard his story of escape and survival. Jon and his wife built their dream home in the Pacific Palisades Bowl Mobile Estates, better known as the Palisades Bowl, and were living their dream. They were just steps from the Pacific Ocean, their young children attended the perfect elementary school, and they were surrounded by their friends and the community they loved. But the Palisades Fire ended all that in a matter of hours. That was, obviously, devastating. But what happened in the weeks and months that followed made the fire look like only the first battle in a long, drawn-out war.Owners of the Palisades Bowl were forced to finally clean the property more than 14 months after the fires. And they have remained uncommunicative as their 400+ residents have tried to determine a plan for rebuilding. The property has now been put up for sale. But Jon Brown and his neighbors are not giving up. In this episode, he tells host Cameron Barrett about his year of struggles and what's next in his fight to return home.Resources:Palisades Bowl Community GroupPalisades Community Resource CenterCalifornia Senate Bill 749California Senate Bill 1092California Senate Bill 1093Palisades Bowl Aerial Footage of CleanupExtreme Weather SurvivorsSupport the show
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Episode 067: Actress Kelly Lynch Has Some Advice For You and Your Neighborhood on Becoming Firewise
Send us Fan MailOn this week’s episode, host Cameron Barrett talks to the award-winning actress and tireless neighborhood leader, Kelly Lynch. She’s been working since not long after the January 2025 firestorms to make her neighborhood an NFPA Firewise USA site. She’s the president of The Oaks Neighborhood Association in the Hollywood Hills, which is spread out along narrow, twisty roads, filled with many older homes, and lots, and LOTS of vegetation. Through her tireless work alongside her neighborhood Board of Directors and MySafe:LA’s trained risk assessors and wildfire experts, the Oaks recently received their Firewise certification and can now take advantage of the benefits, such as better insurance deals. Kelly says the process is “not for sissies” but worth the effort. And she has some advice for those who are interested in doing the same.Resources:The Oaks Neighborhood AssociationKelly’s Recent Docuseries - California RoadtripNFPA Firewise USASupport the show
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Episode 066: What Does Recovery Sound Like with the John Lennon Educational Tour Bus - Part II
Send us Fan MailIn the second episode exploring MySafe:LA's collaboration with the John Lennon Educational Tour Bus, we continue our conversation with MySafe:LA Executive Director David Barrett about the power of music to strengthen a community and help its people heal. We also finish up our interview with Lennon Bus co-creator Brian Rothschild. Turns out the Lennon Bus isn't new at helping kids experiencing the trauma and challenges left in the wake of natural disasters. Plus, we hear the terrific song, "Same City: Resilience After the Fire", written and performed by students from Pacific Palisades Charter High School. Resources:John Lennon Educational Tour BusMySafe:LA's Lennon Bus Collab"Same City: Resilience After the Fire" by students from Pacific Palisades Charter High SchoolMusic Impact CoalitionSupport the show
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Episode 065: What Does Recovery Sound Like with the John Lennon Educational Tour Bus - Part I
Send us Fan MailThis week is the first in a two-part episode on our new collaboration with the John Lennon Educational Tour Bus. In our work to help the communities impacted by the Palisades and Eaton Fires recover and rebuild, we reached out to the Lennon Bus nonprofit because of their past work with kids affected by disasters. We wanted to create an initiative to help children affected by the fires tell their stories and connect with one another over their shared hardships as their schools, communities, and families have struggled to recover. The Lennon Bus offers just such a program by bringing students together through music-making and storytelling. In this first episode, we hear from the bus's co-creator, Brian Rothschild, MySafe:LA Executive Director, David Barrett, and the kids of Altadena and Pasadena through their original songs.Resources:John Lennon Educational Tour BusMySafe:LA's Lennon Bus Collab"Hiraeth" by students from Altadena"Mr. Change" by students from Blair High School in PasadenaMusic Impact CoalitionSupport the show
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Episode 064: 14 Months On, How Are We Really Doing with Shari Sinwelski from Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services
Send us Fan MailOn this week's Rebuild:LA, host Cameron Barrett discusses the state of mental health among fire survivors with Shari Sinwelski, the Vice President of Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services. 14 months after the January Firestorms, as many as 8 out of 10 fire survivors are reporting struggling with their mental health. How can you do a mental health check in? Is it time for you to take advantage of the six free counseling session Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services offers to all fire survivors? Find out in the latest episode of Rebuild:LA.Resources:Didi Hirsch Wildfire Recovery ResourcesMental Health Issues for Fire SurvivorsCalifornia Wildfire Survivors’ Mental Health ChallengesSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 063 - Seven Neighborhoods, One Recovery with the Palisades Recovery Coalition
Send us Fan MailTo mark the first anniversary of the Palisades Fire, the Palisades Recovery Coalition (PRC) gathered with neighbors and community leaders at the famous Eames House, a mid-century architectural landmark in the Palisades that was spared by the January 2025 Firestorms. At the event, PRC presented nearly a year of qualitative research done in all seven distinct neighborhoods in Pacific Palisades - Marquez Knolls, Alphabet Streets, Castellammare/Paseo Miramar, The Bluffs, Huntington, Highlands, and the Mobile Home Parks/Multifamily. Each neighborhood participated in professionally led focus group discussions to learn what Palisadians wanted when it came time to rebuild the Palisades. PRC was looking for data to support their desire to have any recovery effort after the fire be a new way of thinking about development - sustainable, wildfire resilient, inclusive, and most importantly, development that maintains the unique neighborhood character the Palisades had always enjoyed. In this week’s episode of Rebuild:LA, we take you to the event and hear from PRC directors, Rand Researchers, and Palisadians eager to return home.Resources:Palisades Recovery CoalitionEames HouseRandSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 062 - The Second Year of Rebuilding Begins, with the Eaton Fire Survivor’s Network - Part II
Send us Fan MailIn Part II of our coverage of the Eaton Fire Survivors' Network (EFSN) press conference marking the first anniversary of the January 2025 Firestorms, EFSN's Executive Director, Joy Chen, brings state politicians to the podium to discuss the work they're doing to provide relief to fire survivors. A slew of legislation has been passed or is currently under consideration in Sacramento. She also welcomes the California Community Foundation's President and CEO, Miguel Santana, who lays out the staggering numbers of donations raised, and how it's still nothing compared to the relief funds Californians should be expecting from the federal government.California State Senator Sasha Renee PerezCalifornia Assemblyman John HaradedianCalifornia Community FoundationState Audit of the Eaton FireSB878SB877AB238AB493Support the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 061 - The Second Year of Rebuilding Begins, with the Eaton Fire Survivor’s Network - Part I
Send us Fan MailWe're back! Welcome to Season 4 and Episode 61!We couldn't think of a better way to mark the first anniversary of the Eaton Fire and look forward to the next year of rebuilding Los Angeles than to reintroduce you to the Eaton Fire Survivors' Network (EFSN) and its amazing Executive Director, Joy Chen.On the first anniversary, Chen arranged a press conference where she brought together elected officials, philanthropists, activists, and dozens of survivors to tell their stories of recovery and struggle. The event showed a community that was bruised and battered, and still fighting to return home. But it also showed a community that has found its strength by coming together and has no intention of giving up. Here are some highlights from that remarkable event.Don't miss next week when we bring you part 2 of the event, and hear from state elected officials on the work they're doing to bring further relief to those struggling to return home, as well as the plans EFSN has to take on Southern California Edison and the federal government.Resources:Eaton Fire Survivors’ NetworkSouthern California Edison’s Role in the Eaton FireLA County Supervisor Kathryn BargerDay OneSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 60: Taking a Break Before the Real Rebuilding Begins
Send us Fan MailRebuild:LA is marking the 60th episode and announcing a brief hiatus, before we begin our third season and bring you more stories of the efforts to recover and rebuild in the Pacific Palisades and Altadena. We'll return on February 3, when we bring you an update on the extraordinary work being done by the Eaton Fire Survivors Network, including the status of their efforts to investigate the insurance industry, as well as legislative initiatives to help fire survivors.Until we return, check out a few of our past episodes:Episode 29 - Delay, Deny, Discourage and Underpay with Joy Chen of Eaton Fire Survivors NetworkEpisode 12 - Build Back Better with Alexis Revas, the co-founder of CoverEpisode 051 - 70% Of Survivors Can’t Return Home with Department of Angels’ Andrew King and Angela GiacchettiSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 059: Marking the First Anniversary of the January Firestorms WITH US
Send us Fan MailWith Us, an immersive art exhibit in the Arts District of downtown Los Angeles, has opened, and it is a compelling experience for anyone who visits. Extreme Weather Survivors and the Department of Angels collaborated to produce the installation, which brings together video, still photography, original art pieces, and the compelling survivors’ soundscape you’ll hear in this episode. Our anniversary show was recorded directly from the exhibit. We collected short interviews with those who’ve spent the last year helping fire survivors, and we’ve added them to the soundscape graciously shared by the With Us collaborators. This episode of Rebuild:LA pays tribute to the thousands of Angelenos who survived the fires, and the tens of thousands of people who have stepped up over the past year to help.The With Us exhibit is open to all for free, from January 4th through the 7th, from 12 noon to 7:30 pm at the City Market Social House in the Arts District in downtown Los Angeles. If you stop by, bring some food donations for the organization, Support and Feed.Resources:With UsDepartment of AngelsExtreme Weather SurvivorsProject:CampEaton Fire Survivors NetworkTeam PalisadesPalisades Recovery CoalitionDidi Hirsch Mental Health ServicesKCRW Love LettersSupport and FeedItems Needed:canned corn/peascereal like oatsdry pastaplant-based pasta saucericecanned and dry beansnutscanned/preserved fruits and vegetablesnut butters and tahiniSupport the show
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BONUS EPISODE! Rebuild:LA Episode 058: Walking Alongside Fire Survivors with Sierra Kos, co-creator of the exhibit With Us
Send us Fan MailSierra Kos tells us about the exhibit, With Us, an immersive LA fire experience, in this special bonus episode of Rebuild:LA. The event is on Sunday, January 4, from 12-4 PM and is free to attend. You can get your tickets here:With Us TicketsKos and her collaborators wanted to bring the first-hand accounts of surviving the Palisades and Eaton Fires to the people of Los Angeles. The exhibit uses sight and sound and offers visitors a chance to hear from survivors in their own voices and through their own images.Organizers have partnered with the Department of Angels to present social data in context with fire stories.Department of AngelsProject Camp will be on-site to provide child care with special, trauma-informed care providers.Project CampAnd the event is also taking food donations through Support and Feed.Support and FeedThey’re asking for:canned corn/peascereal like oatsdry pastaplant-based pasta saucericecanned and dry beansnutscanned/preserved fruits and vegetablesnut butters and tahiniSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 057: Taking Care of Those Who Take Care of Us, with Eaton Fire Survivor and LAFD Captain Jerry Puga, and Los Angeles Firemen’s Relief Association President, Captain Chris Stine
Send us Fan MailIn this, the second part of our special two-part holiday edition of Rebuild:LA, host Cameron Barrett sits down with an Eaton Fire survivor and the president of an organization that lent him a hand. Both guests happen to be Los Angeles Fire Department Captains. In part I released last week, Captain Jerry Puga told the story of turning his back on his burning home, knowing he couldn't save it. And his friend, Captain Chris Stine, the President of the Los Angeles Firemen's Relief Association (LAFRA), talked about the work his organization did in the immediate aftermath to help Jerry and many other LAFD members impacted by the fires. In part two, we hear about the Puga family's struggle to return home, and the Relief Association's work not only providing financial support but also emotional and spiritual help.Resources:LAFRA's Fundraising Golf EventJerry Puga's Fire Story in PicturesLAFRA's Official CharityLAFRAJM EagleGary Sinise FoundationSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 056: Fighting One Fire, While the Other Burns Down Your Home, with Eaton Fire Survivor, LAFD Captain Jerry Puga, and Los Angeles Firemen’s Relief Association President, Captain Chris Stine
Send us Fan MailThe first of our special two-part holiday edition of Rebuild:LA has host Cameron Barrett sitting down with an Eaton Fire survivor and the president of an organization that lent him a hand. What makes the conversation unique is that both guests are Los Angeles Fire Department Captains. Captain Jerry Puga lost his home in the Eaton Fire, evacuating with his family just minutes before the fire took out his whole neighborhood. And his friend, Captain Chris Stine, is the President of the Los Angeles Firemen's Relief Association (LAFRA), an organization that's been helping those who help others for nearly 120 years. In this season of giving, we hear from Jerry and Chris about the power of helping others.Next week, part two will delve into the Puga family's struggle to return home, and the work the Relief Association has shouldered, helping more than 30 families of LAFD members affected by the fires.Resources:LAFRA's Fundraising Golf EventJerry Puga's Fire Story in PicturesWidows, Orphans, and Disabled Firefighters' FundLAFRAJM EagleGary Sinise FoundationSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 055: Your Brain Is NOT Helping You Prepare for the Next Wildfire with Erica Peng
Send us Fan MailThis week on Rebuild:LA, host Cameron Barrett talks with Erica Peng, a lecturer at UC Berkeley Haas School of Business, who teaches leaders about how our fight-flight-freeze neurobiology shapes and undermines behavior and performance. Peng has partnered with the National Fire Protection Association to teach a unique approach to crisis leadership, explaining how our neurobiology can actually get in the way of us doing the right thing when we’re faced with a disaster like a wildfire, or even when we resist doing the right thing in making ourselves and our homes safer from the risk of wildfire. Peng knows what she’s talking about. She experienced this phenomenon first-hand in 2019, when she decided to evacuate from her home north of Berkeley, California, as a wildfire approached. In our conversation with her in this week’s episode, Peng will explain why we often react in direct opposition to our best interests, and even more helpfully, how we can control those reactions to be more resilient and better prepared.Resources:Erica PengThe Blog Post that Started it AllWhat's Missing in Wildfire Mitigation David Rock's NeuroLeadership"How Emotions Are Made" by Lisa Feldman BarrettBrene Brown on EmpathyBrene Brown on BlameSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 054: A Rocket Launcher that Shoots Water Balloons - Meet FireDome with co-founder and CEO Gadi Benjamini
Send us Fan MailImagine a rocket launcher…that shoots water balloons. Inspired by the defense technology known as Iron Dome, a group of Israeli entrepreneurs has developed a defense mechanism against wildfires they're calling FireDome. In host Cameron Barrett’s conversation this week with FireDome’s co-founder and CEO, Gadi Benjamini, we learn about a cutting-edge technology created to save lives and property.Resources:FireDomeFireDome in Action VIDEOContact Gadi BenjaminiSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 053: What Did the Fires Leave Behind in Our Soil with Dr. Seth John and Sujeet Rao of USC’s CLEAN Project
Send us Fan MailWe know that the Palisades and Eaton Fires left devastation in their wake, devastation that wasn’t just burned structures and displaced lives, but dangerous contaminants that remained in our soil and groundwater. How far-reaching was the contamination, and how concerned do residents need to be? Thanks to the University of Southern California’s CLEAN Project, there is now a way for anyone living in Los Angeles County to get answers to those questions. And the help is free! This week, host Cameron Barrett found out about the testing and resources the CLEAN Project is providing residents when she sat down with Dr. Seth John of the Department of Earth Sciences at USC, and Sujeet Rao, the Director of Health and Well-being at USC’s Dornsife Public Exchange.Resources:University of Southern California’s CLEAN ProjectSubmit a Sample of Your SoilCLEAN Project Contamination MapsUSC’s Dornsife Public ExchangeUSC’s Department of Earth SciencesLead Poisoning Fact SheetSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 052: Just Because Your Home Is Still Standing, Doesn’t Mean You’ve Escaped the Fire with Eaton Fire Residents United’s Nicole Maccalla
Send us Fan MailDr. Nicole Maccalla spent the first two days of the Eaton Fire on the ground, fighting to save her home. She thought that if she could just keep her house from burning, she would be okay, and when the fire was finally out, she could return to the place she and her children had called home for the last 11 years. But what she found was a house that might have been still standing, but could not be lived in. Everything inside was covered with ash, and she soon found out, other things more dangerous things that you couldn’t see, like lead, asbestos, and other heavy metals. Since then, Nicole has been trying to navigate insurance, federal aid, and state loopholes to make her house a home again. She and several fire survivors formed Eaton Fire Residents United and have created a website filled with invaluable resources and hard lessons they’ve had to learn firsthand, in their efforts to recover and rebuild. Cameron Barrett talks to Nicole Maccalla this week about her work.Resources:Eaton Fire Residents UnitedShare Your TestingWhat the Eaton Fire Left BehindContamination MapSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 051: 70% Of Survivors Can’t Return Home with Department of Angels’ Andrew King and Angela Giacchetti
Send us Fan MailIn the second of our two-part episode with Eaton Fire survivors Andrew King and Angela Giacchetti, host Cameron Barrett asks the two about their work on the Department of Angels' quarterly survey of fire survivors, Community Voices: LA Fire Recovery Report. The research is uncovering some difficult truths about the recovery and rebuilding efforts in Pacific Palisades and Altadena. 70% of those surveyed say they can’t return home. Nearly that many report struggling with their mental health, and the majority of survivors say they have run out of savings and are taking on debt. King and Giacchetti are not only administering the report, but have been instrumental in the development of questions, knowing that their first-hand knowledge as fire survivors makes them uniquely qualified to ask the questions that matter.Resources:Department of AngelsCommunity Voices: LA Fire Recovery ReportPalisades Long Term Recovery GroupPalisades Recovery CoalitionEaton Fire Survivor’s NetworkEaton Fire CollaborativeDisaster Case ManagementSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 050: No Warning - Surviving the Eaton Fire with Department of Angels’ Andrew King and Angela Giacchetti
Send us Fan MailAndrew King and Angela Giacchetti didn’t know each other on January 7, 2025. They lived only a few blocks apart - in Altadena. When the Santa Ana winds got so strong that power started failing, King loaded his two kids and his wife into their minivan and took off to a nearby hotel in Pasadena. Better safe than sorry, he figured. Giacchetti and her husband were new parents. Their son was only nine months old, and their main concern was him. But they figured they could wait until the evacuation order came. Even if authorities told them to “get ready,” they still planned to go, because of the baby. Better safe than sorry, they figured. Yet the order never came. When they lost power, they packed the car and headed to a friend’s house in Silver Lake. Neither family ever thought that one of the deadliest wildfires in Southern California was just getting started. It would be several months later when King and Giacchetti would meet, as they started their work with the newly formed non-profit, born of the fires, the Department of Angels. This week, King and Giacchetti sit down with host Cameron Barrett for the first of a two-part episode to tell their harrowing stories of evacuation and their long roads to recovery.Support the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 049 - Rebuilding Is Reimagining with Malibu Mayor Marianne Riggins
Send us Fan MailMalibu is no stranger to wildfires. The city had just recovered from the 2018 Woolsey Fire, which destroyed hundreds of homes on both sides of Pacific Coast Highway, when the firestorms of January 2025 struck. The Palisades Fire destroyed 700 homes in Malibu and drove clouds of soot and ash from the smoldering Pacific Palisades over the city and onto its world-renowned beaches. 700 homes were lost, and the city’s main artery, Pacific Coast Highway, was blocked by fleeing residents, emergency vehicles, and walls of flame. But ten months after the Palisades Fire, more than 200 building permits are pending approval in Malibu, and the first home is being rebuilt along PCH. Malibu Mayor Marianne Riggins sees the fire’s destruction every day, but she also sees opportunity. Host Cameron Barrett sits down with Mayor Riggins this week to dive into Malibu’s rise from the ashes.Malibu RebuildsThe Host of New Bills Helping Fire VictimsMaking Rebuild Efforts Easier in MalibuMalibu Issues First Building Permit Post FireSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 048 - This Ain’t Your Dad’s Fire Service with Battalion Chief Andoni Kastros (ret)
Send us Fan MailThe American Fire Service is in the midst of a rapid transition period that many have described as a crisis. From a massive brain drain happening in departments that are losing many seasoned firefighters to retirement, as well as a fundamentally different generation of firefighters coming up through a traditional system not known for easily changing, the fire service is facing challenges it’s never had to navigate before. At the same time, wildfires are increasing in complexity and frequency. The Palisades and Eaton Fires made it clear that the age of mega fires is upon us. Is the Fire Service in 2025 capable of taking on these new, deadly challenges? We asked an expert in firefighting training, who has taught firefighters all over the world, this exact question. Cameron chats with her friend, and MySafe:LA collaborator, Battalion Chief Andoni Kastros, or Firefighters' Inspiration, Readiness and Education (FIRE), to learn about the state of the American Fire Service.Resources:Firefighters’ Inspiration, Readiness and EducationFirefighter Engineering Magazine and BooksFDICMastering Textbook SeriesSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 047 - Is Orange County Prime for the Next Megafire with Irvine Ranch Conservancy's Oscar Hood
Send us Fan MailOscar Hood is trying to stop a Palisades Fire from happening in Orange County. As the County Coordinator for Wildfire Prevention and the Government and External Affairs Analyst for the Irvine Ranch Conservancy, he’s managing over 40,000 acres of open space in one of California’s smallest, yet most populous counties. How is he and his team working to keep wildfire at bay in the OC? He joins Cameron Barrett this week to talk about everything from roadside native plantings to prescribed burns in the Cleveland National Forest.Resources:Irvine Ranch ConservancyCalifornia Fire Safe CouncilCleveland National ForestSucculents as Fire BreaksSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 046 - Using Robots to Fight Wildfire with BurnBot’s Ford Ainslie
Send us Fan MailIt’s like a Zamboni for firefighting. We’re talking about BurnBot’s RX2, and if you haven’t seen video of it in action, make sure to click on the resource link below. The company brought together two widely different California realities - Silicon Valley technological innovation, and the ever-increasing risk from wildfires. This week on Rebuild:LA, host Cameron Barrett talks to their Director of Partnerships and Growth, Ford Ainslie, about how BurnBot’s RX2 and other robotic technologies are working to help not only California, but also other states, find new ways to lower wildfire risks.BurnBotHow To Get Your Wildland Firefighting Red CardPrescribed BurnsRethinking Prescribed Burns in Southern CaliforniaSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 045 - Finding Your Way Home with After the Fire’s Jennifer Gray Thompson
Send us Fan MailIn 2017 Jennifer Gray Thompson found herself living in her car with her dogs after evacuating from the Tubbs Fire in Sonoma County. The experience made her feel alone, lost, and unable to navigate back to the life she had enjoyed before she came face to face with a deadly mega fire. Her solution? The creation of After the Fire, a non-profit that has become a leading resource for communities all over the country who are facing the same trials she did back in 2017. After Fire was one of the resources that responded to both the Palisades and Eaton Fires, and is still helping survivors navigate bureaucracy, insurance nightmares, and bad information. When she’s not helping people in burn scars around the country, she's advocating for them on Capitol Hill, helping pass legislation that protects disaster survivors. This week, she sits down with host Cameron Barrett to talk about her work and what she sees ahead for Los Angeles.Resources:After the FireWildfire Leadership SummitHR5683 Federal Disaster Tax ReliefFire Safe MarinThe Foothill CatalogWildfire:LASupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 044: Saving History from Wildfire with Headwater Economics’ Ryan Handy
Send us Fan MailThe Palisades and Eaton Fires destroyed a lot of history. Will Rogers’s ranch home, Pasadena Waldorf School, Robert Bridges House, The Bunny Museum, Andrew McNally House, Theater Palisades, and The Zane Gray Estate are just a few of the thousands of structures lost in the fires. They all were touchstones in the communities where they were located. What does their loss mean to the Pacific Palisades and Altadena? What could we have done to protect them? And what do we need to do to protect other historic landmarks that might be in the way of the next megafire? We talk to researcher and urban planner, Ryan Handy, of Headwater Economics, about her new research on saving history from wildfire in this episode of Rebuild:LA.Resources:Loss of the Grand Canyon LodgeProtecting Our Past: Wildfire Strategies for Historic BuildingsUrban ConflagrationsThe Cost of RebuildingThe Cost to RetrofitNevada City, CA Retrofit ProgramHeadwaters Economics PodcastRelocating Historic Homes in AltadenaSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 043 - A 50-Year Perspective on the January Firestorms with Chief Kim Zagaris of the Western Fire Chiefs’ Association
Send us Fan MailWhen you’ve been in the California fire service for 48 years, like Chief Kim Zagaris, you’re likely to take a long view of how we’re doing when it comes to wildfire response. Chief Z as many know him, was State Fire and Rescue Chief for the State of California, Governor’s Office of Emergency Services (Cal OES) until just a few years ago,, when he retired and become the Wildfire Policy and Technology Advisor for the Western Fire Chiefs Association. Zagaris has fought hundreds of wildfires in his decades’ long career, yet he’s still out there, fighting to get more apparatus in the hands of fire departments, more technology in the hands off firefighters, and more trained boots on the ground at the next mega fire. Our conversation this week with Chief Z covers all that and more.ResourcesCalOESWestern Fire Chiefs’ Association2004 Governor’s Blue Ribbon Fire Commission ReportSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 042: There Aren’t Enough Firetrucks for Every House with the LA County Fire Department Community Brigade’s Brent Woodworth
Send us Fan MailThere have always been people who have stayed behind to try to protect their homes during a wildfire. It happened in the Palisades and in Altadena this January. As always, there were varying results. Some claimed to have saved their homes and even those of their neighbors. Others may have lost their lives trying. It’s never been a thing any emergency services department, or any professional firefighter would recommend. But just recently, LA County Fire Chief Anthony Marrone said in some instances, his department supports staying behind. And one of the reasons, if not THE reasons for the Chief’s 180-degree turn? The LA County Fire Department’s Community Brigade - a group of civilians and home owners, who now have the training and the equipment to stay behind. It's the brainchild of Brent Woodworth, a man with 40+ years of crisis management in the private sector, who founded the Los Angeles Emergency Preparedness Foundation. What is the Brigade and what does it do? You'll find out in this episode.Resources:LA County Fire Department Community BrigadeLos Angeles Emergency Preparedness FoundationHome Ignition Zone Assessments Sign UpJoin the BrigadeWoolsey Fire Assessment ReportSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 041 - Forgotten Altadena with the Future Organization’s Aimery Thomas
Send us Fan MailThis week social scientist Aimery Thomas of the Future Organization joins Cameron Barrett to talk about ARISE - Altadena Resident Impact Survey and Evaluation. It’s a report he and his partner compiled after they surveyed 1,200+ Altadena residents in the wake of the Eaton Fire. The results are as fascination as they are disturbing, uncovering a web of neglect in fire prevention, emergency response, and resource allocation before, during, and after the disaster.Resources:The Future OrganizationThe ARISE StudyLA County GovernmentAltadena Town CouncilSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 040 - It’s Been 8 Months. Now What? With Palisades Fire Survivor Kari Weaver
Send us Fan MailOur conversation this week is with Palisades Fire survivor Kari Weaver, who lost her home in the alphabet streets. It’s been 8 months since that windy, dry Tuesday morning, January 7, when the Palisades Fire started in the highlands. And it was only a few hours later that the Eaton Fire came roaring out of Eaton Canyon and wiped out much of Altadena. A lot has happened in those eight months. And many of us who aren’t in the middle of insurance claims, construction bids, and temporary housing issues have moved on. But there are still tens of thousands of Los Angeles residents who can’t - because they’re facing the fallout of those fires every day. But Kari Weaver, an interior designer and mother of three, is just surviving; she’s planning. She has a vision about how to make the Pacific Palisades, post-fire, a better place to live. Learn about her harrowing evacuation and her vision of what the future could be.Resources:Kari Weaver DesignResilient Palisades2025 Palisades FireNonprofit Rebuilding Palisades Rec CenterLA Fire Health StudySupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 039 - How New Legislation Will Help Victims of the LA Firestorms with CA Senator Ben Allen
Send us Fan MailCalifornia Senator Ben Allen is our guest this week, squeezing our interview into his jammed legislative schedule. Allen grew up in Santa Monica and represents California Senate District #24, which includes his hometown, as well as Malibu and the Pacific Palisades, two communities devastated by January’s Palisades Fire. This week he’s in Sacramento presenting legislation to help rebuilding efforts move forward. The bills have names like Winter Fires of 2025: real property tax: exemptions and reassessment. Allen was not only professionally impacted by the firestorms, but personally as well. And he’s working to make sure that impact remains fresh in the minds of his colleagues in Sacramento. Find out all about his efforts and his thoughts on rebuilding Los Angeles.Resources:Senator Ben AllenSenate Bill #663Senate Bill #549Jewish Free Loan AssociationResilient PalisadesSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 038 What Can We Do To Make Evacuations Work in the Next Wildfire with MySafe:LA’s David Barrett - Part II
Send us Fan MailThe death toll from the January Firestorms has climbed to 31 with the discovery in late June of the remains of Juan Francisco Espinoza, a 74-year-old man who didn’t escape the Eaton Fire when it raged through Altadena. The discovery of yet another victim six months after the fires makes it clear that we need to start working together to get wildfire evacuations right. Last week, in the first half of our conversation about evacuations with MySafe:LA's David Barrett, we discussed notification systems and the technology being fine-tuned in LA County to make evacuation notifications more effective. This week, we’re talking about what people can do to guarantee their survival when the next disaster strikes. David Barrett will give us step-by-step guidelines on evacuation best practices and talk about the elephant in the room when it comes to evacuation problems - infrastructure.Resources:MySafe:LAGenysusGenysus News31st Victim Discovered in AltadenaSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 037 Why Didn’t Evacuation Plans Work in the Palisades and Eaton Fires with MySafe:LA’s David Barrett - Part I
Send us Fan MailThis week is the first half of another conversation we’re stretching over two episodes, and that’s because of the complexity of what we’re discussing - evacuation. Why didn’t it work in the Pacific Palisades and Altadena when wildfires raged through both communities this January? Why does the death toll for the fires keep rising? Los Angeles County Sheriff’s just recently identified yet another victim of the Eaton Fire, a 74-year-old man who didn’t get out in time. Why can’t we get this right? What can we do to increase survivability when the next fire strikes? We ask all those questions and more of David Barrett, the Chief Officer of our non-profit, MySafe:LA, this week, and find out about new software that could make notifications and evacuations easier for both municipalities AND residents.Resources:MySafe:LAGenysusGenysus News31st Victim Discovered in AltadenaSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 036 - How Difficult Is It to Harden Your Home? We Asked Two Fire Chiefs How They Hardened Their Own
Send us Fan MailThis week Cameron Barrett sits down with two Fire Chiefs who have just completed projects in their respective homes to give them the best chance of making it through a wildfire. Chief Frank Bigelow is CAL FIRE’s Deputy Director of Community Wildfire Preparedness and Mitigation. Chief Jose de Jesus Lopez is a retired Assistant Chief for Los Angeles County Fire Department, and currently serves on the California Board of Forestry and Fire Protection. Bigelow and his family have just moved in to a newly built home outside of Fresno, where he and his wife have made exacting decisions to build a home that is both state of the art and fire resistant. Lopez has come at it from an entirely different angle, taking a house built in 1960, and retrofitting it to be fire resistant. We recorded this week’s episode right in Lopez’s backyard, which overlooks El Prieto Canyon and the Angeles National Forest. Lopez is one of the lucky ones. His neighborhood is in Altadena, but is a California Fire Safe Council, and survived both the Station Fire in 2009 and the Eaton Fire in January. Find out what decisions they made to protect their homes.Resources:Wildfire:LAState Board of Forestry and Fire ProtectionInsurance Institute for Business & Home Safety “Wildfire Prepared Home” StandardsNational Institute for Standards Technology’s Hazard Mitigation MethodologyCAL FIRE Home HardeningCAL FIRE Defensible SpaceSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 035 CAL FIRE’s Uphill Battle with Zone Zero with State Fire Marshal Chief Daniel Berlant - Part II
Send us Fan MailPart II of our conversation with State Fire Marshal Daniel Berlant finds us tackling one of the most contentious topics in wildfire prevention - Zone Zero. The state is still trying to define exactly what Zone Zero will entail, but homeowners are already filling social media and text strings with nightmares of having to create moonscapes of bare dirt around their homes to qualify for fire insurance. So, what exactly is ZoneZero, and what does CAL FIRE want you to do to be in compliance? That's what we cover in the second half of our conversation with Chief Daniel Berlant.Resources:CAL FIREInsurance Institute for Business & Home Safety’s Living with WildfireReady for WildfireCAL FIRE Fuels ReductionBoard of Forestry and Fire Protection July Committee Meeting and AgendaBecoming an NFPA Firewise USA SiteSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 034 How Is CAL FIRE “Treating” Our Wildland with State Fire Marshal Chief Daniel Berlant - Part I
Send us Fan MailThis week is the first of a two-part conversation with State Fire Marshal Daniel Berlant. He leads the wildfire prevention and preparedness efforts for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE). California is home to nearly 40 million people, who live all over the 164-thousand square acres of land that make up the state. The third-largest state in the country by area, and the most populous state in the country by far. It’s safe to say that when it comes to wildfire, Berlant has his work cut out for him. In our first episode, Berlant discusses his department’s response to the Eaton Fire and how CAL FIRE is trying to “treat” hundreds of thousands of acres of wildland to restore natural habitat while protecting the increasing number of people moving into the WUI.Resources:CAL FIREEaton Fire Maps and DataCAL FIRE Fuels ReductionBoard of Forestry and Fire Protection July Committee Meeting and AgendaSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 033 - What Would You Pack If A Wildfire Was On Your Doorstep with MySafe:LA’s Chris Nevil
Send us Fan MailIt’s been six months since the firestorms of January tore through the communities of Pacific Palisades and Altadena. The worst wildfire disaster in Los Angeles history, the Palisades Fire killed 12 people, destroyed 6,837 structures and burned 23,448 acres. The Eaton Fire was even more destructive, killing 18 people, destroying 9,000 structures and burning 14,021 acres. Six months isn’t a long time, but if you weren’t directly effected by the fires, chances are they faded from memory. They are no longer headline news, despite the fact that clean up is still underway and rebuilding is still in the early stages. So at this six month milestone, we wanted to return to a central theme in our podcast, and in all of our work, and that’s preparation. We know that it saves lives, and just because the fires are out, doesn't mean there isn’t another one of the horizon. The time to begin preparing for a wildfire disaster is now. What would you pack, if a wildfire was nearing your home? What would you grab, if you only had a few minutes to save the lives of you, your loved ones, your pets, and your neighbors? That’s what this episode is all about, with our guest, MySafe:LA’s Chris Nevil.Resources:KCAL News Story on Rob HooverWildfire:LA’s Make a Kit GuideMySafe:LA’s Pet Safety GuideMore Prepared KitsSOS Survival ProductsSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 032 - California’s Chaparral Could Be Our Best Fire Protection Plan with Richard Halsey of the California Chaparral Institute
Send us Fan MailWhat if saving California’s chaparral ecosystem means we’d be protecting California communities from wildfires? Richard Halsey, the founder of the California Chaparral Institute, says our state’s most abundant biome, chaparral, actually protects our communities from widespread wildfire disasters. And he says the more the state mandates the clearance of native habitats like the chaparral, the more it guarantees that wildfires will destroy communities. Halsey’s decades of fighting for the preservation of natural habitats has found him in court - twice - once in 2004 against the state’s plan to clear hundreds of acres in San Diego County after the Cedar fire, and just recently against CalFire and their plan to clear thousands of acres of wildland throughout the state. He won both lawsuits, but his battle continues. Find out about his fight to save homes from wildfire by saving California’s chaparral.Resources:California Chaparral InstituteBecome a Chaparral NaturalistCalifornia Chaparral Institute’s Victories in CourtCalifornia Chaparral Institute Home Protection BookletSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 031 - Scenes from MySafe:LA’s Wildfire Fair
Send us Fan MailMySafe:LA's Wildfire Fair took place this past Sunday at the Autry Museum of the American West in Los Angeles. Our non-profit organized the event to help residents have a one-stop solution to finding wildfire information and products. The fair featured 25 booths where attendees could learn about a wide array of products from spray-on fire retardants, to emergency vests pre-loaded with essentials you’ll need if you have to evacuate. Government agencies were also on hand including Los Angeles’ Emergency Management Department and the State’s Department of Insurance. Workshops were held throughout the day. Experts presented on landscape planning, wildfire safety for older adults, home fire retardants, how to become a Firewise site, and updates on California’s current insurance challenges. There was even a Kids' Zone where children learned hands-only CPR and home fire safety, assembled their own emergency Go Bags, and practiced how to Get Low and GO. The fair welcomed at least 300 attendees. It was so successful that we plan to hold three more this year, in LA Council Districts 1, 11, and 12. Our Executive Officer, David Barrett, carried a microphone into the booths of some of the exhibitors to find out what they have to offer in helping keep Los Angelenos safe in the event of ll. wildfire.Resources:MySafe:LA’s Kids SafetyPERK (Phoenix Emergency Recovery Kits)M-Fire TechnologiesM-Fire SuppressionWetLine Wildfire DefenseFire CoatPERCISupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 030 - A Fire Retardant You Could Drink with M-Fire’s Silvio Lanzas
Send us Fan MailOur guest this week is Silvio Lanzas, the former Fire Chief for the City of Glendale, and the current Chief Operating Officer for the fire retardant manufacturer M-Fire. The company produces and applies a product called AF31 that is water-based and food-grade, and can be sprayed on houses, car batteries, and whole forests. It was invented more than 30 years ago in the UK, it’s made in Torrance, California, and it’s widely used throughout Asia. So why does no one know about it here in wildfire-ravaged California? It might have to do with the dominance in the marketplace of Phos-Check, the red stuff we’ve all seen flowing out of aircraft over wildfires. But Lanzas is trying to change that…one construction site, one EV battery and one house at a time.Resources:M-Fire TechnologiesM-Fire SuppressionQuestions about AF31? Email [email protected] the show
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Episode 029: UPDATED! Rebuild:LA - Delay, Deny, Discourage, and Underpay with Joy Chen of the Eaton Fire Survivors' Network
Send us Fan MailFive months after the Eaton Fire came charging out of the wildland and destroyed much of the historic city of Altadena, there are still hundreds of families who haven’t been able to return home or start the long process of recovering. This week’s guest says there is a correlation between a family’s insurance carrier, and their ability to recover their lives and rebuild their futures. Joy Chen is a former Deputy Mayor of Los Angeles, and the current CEO of the Multicultural Leadership Institute. But these days, she dedicates much of her time to the organization she co-founded, the Eaton Fire Survivors’ Network, and trying to get the insurance industry to pay out on the hundreds of claims coming from survivors. She believes there is a systematic approach of “delay, deny, discourage and underpay.” She and others in the Eaton Fire Survivors’ Network are pressuring California Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara to investigate the claims process and freeze any proposed rate hikes. The details of her group’s mission are detailed in this week’s episode.Resources:Eaton Fire Survivors’ NetworkJoin Eaton Fire Survivors’ Network DiscordLetter to California Insurance Commission Ricardo LaraNew York Times Insurance SurveySign up for Eaton Fire Survivors’ Network June 19th Podcast on Insurance FraudLawsuit Against InsurersSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 028 - Saving Whole Neighborhoods from Wildfire with Fire Aside's Jason Brooks
Send us Fan MailIn this week’s Episode host Cameron Barrett interviews software developer Jason Brooks who took his experience surviving the Tubbs Fire that destroyed Santa Rose in 2017, as inspiration to design an app that has helped more than a million people make their homes safer from wildfire. Brooks’ app, Fire Aside, is now being used by dozens of municipalities in more than half a dozen states to streamline brush inspections, home hardening and defensible space education and fire prevention efforts. Hear how the app works, and how even Fire Safe Councils and Homeowners’ Associations are leveraging Fire Aside in the fight against wildfires.Resources:Fire AsideChipper DaysMarin County's Close CallSupport the show
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Rebuild:LA Episode 027 - The Hard Truth About Zone Zero with Dr. Travis Longcore
Send us Fan MailIn 2020 California passed AB 3074, which established Zone Zero - an ember-resistant zone within five feet of homes in High and Very High Fire Severity Zones (HFHSZ and VHFHSZ). The law was never implemented because the State Board of Forestry and Fire Protection needed to identify exactly what would be allowed and not allowed in Zone Zero. Two things have happened recently. 1. The Board of Forestry and Fire Protection released new maps that have expanded the HFHSZ and VHFHSZ. 2. In the wake of the January Firestorms, Governor Newsom issued an executive order requiring the Board of Forestry and Fire Protection to finalize rule-making and implement Zone Zero.What does this mean for homeowners in Los Angeles? We have the answers, and they might not be what you want to hear. Our expert guest this week is Travis Longcore, a UCLA Adjunct Professor and Co-Chair of the Environmental Science and Engineering Program at the UCLA Institute of the Environment and Sustainability, as well as a 28-year member of the Los Angeles County Environmental Review Board. And what he tells host Cameron Barrett about the proposed rules around Zone Zero are surprising...to say the least!Resources:Is Your Home in a HFHSZ and VHFHSZ?Board of Forestry and Fire Protection’s Proposed Zone Zero RulesRegister for Updates on Future Zone Zero Meetings with the Board of Forestry and Fire ProtectionSupport the show
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Episode 026: Rebuild:LA - Rebuilding Our City in a Changing Climate with Probable Futures Founder Spencer Glendon, Part II
Send us Fan MailThis week’s guest is a thought leader and non-profit founder Spencer Glendon, who we met last week in part one of our discussion on how climate change is making our lives riskier, and forcing us to rethink where and how we live. The Palisades and Eaton Fires are just two examples of that increased risk. Glendon brings his expertise in Engineering, and Economics, as well as his experience as an Executive Fellow at Harvard Business School and a Senior Fellow at the Woodwell Climate Research Center, to the conversation. He and host Cameron Barrett began their discussion last week with the history of our climate. This week they drill down to what climate change means for Southern California and how rebuilding LA requires some forethought, some big conversations, and some community building.Resources:Probable FuturesThe 2025 Equinoxes EssayThe History of Risk Markets and Urban FiresFortune article on Fire InsuranceHarvard Business School article on the LA FiresSupport the show
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Episode 025: Rebuild:LA - Rebuilding Our City in a Changing Climate with Probable Futures Founder Spencer Glendon, Part I
Send us Fan MailThis week’s guest is a thought leader taking on the daunting task of teaching people about climate change and how best to adapt to it. Spencer Glendon is the founder of Probable Futures, a non-profit that is helping businesses and communities understand that our weather is no longer something we can rely on, but instead is causing increased risk to our safety. The Palisades and Eaton Fires are just two examples of that increased risk. Glendon brings his expertise in Engineering, and Economics, as well as his experience as an Executive Fellow at Harvard Business School and a Senior Fellow at the Woodwell Climate Research Center, to the conversation. He and host Cameron Barrett start this two part discussion with the last 100,000 years of weather and human development, and end in next week’s part two of the conversation, discussing = what we need to do today in the wake of our twin climate disasters - the Palisades and Eaton Fires - to rebuild LA.Resources:Probable FuturesThe 2025 Equinoxes EssayThe History of Risk Markets and Urban FiresFortune article on Fire InsuranceHarvard Business School article on the LA FiresSupport the show
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
When the firestorms of January 2025 raged through the Pacific Palisades and Altadena, they left 31 people dead and historic destruction in their wake. Recovery will be a long, uphill road, and rebuilding will take years and dedicated planning. This podcast takes a deep dive into the circumstances that led to the fires, how people can prepare for future wildfires - which are inevitable - and how Angeleños can come together to rebuild our beautiful city.Rebuild:LA is the proud winner of the 2025 Award of Excellence from the Communicator Awards, the 2025 Silver W3 Award, and the 2026 Silver NYX Award for podcasting!
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