Second Verse

Michael Isaak on Arabesque Folk, Diaspora Identity, and The Carpet MakerHost Becky Boyland interviews Los Angeles–born Egyptian American musician Michael Isaak about his journey from church hymns, Arabic classics, and early FL Studio production to creating a new sound he calls “arabesque folk.” After making indie folk influenced by Phoebe Bridgers and Sufjan Stevens, a first trip to Egypt at 19 sparked deeper cultural immersion; he brought home an oud, later transferred to Columbia University, studied Arabic language and Arab music history and theory, and joined the Arab Music Ensemble. Michael shares how experimenting and jamming helped Arabic motifs emerge naturally instead of feeling forced, his critique of the “world music” framing, and his goal of building in-person community through intimate shows. They discuss his debut album The Carpet Maker (May 15) and lead single “Hold Your Keys” (March 6), reflecting on diaspora, displacement, and the hope of return.https://youtu.be/YiRyILUz2JcConnect with Michael Isaak:https://www.instagram.com/michaelisaakmusichttps://tiktok.com/@michaelisaakmusichttps://youtube.com/@michaelisaakmusichttps://open.spotify.com/artist/559rQJZL0GYH9lVU6zi5ey?si=KXUULlsqT16kSTJggFiQ8Ahttps://music.apple.com/us/artist/michael-isaak/1644644907https://michaelisaak.usSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.comShe Produces Music: https://www.sheproducesmusic.comFeatured Song:”Hold Your Keys” by Michael Isaak, written by Michael Isaak & Sohail Bagheri (used with permission). All rights reserved.Timestamps:0:00 Teaser: Michael Isaak Interview00:38 Introduction02:12 Meet Michael Isaak03:26 Learning to Perform and Produce06:05 Taking the Leap From College07:38 Finding an Arab Folk Identity13:29 Oud Origins and Obsession16:40 Blending Arabic and Western Sounds26:39 Beyond World Music Labels30:51 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity31:24 SPONSOR: She Produces Music31:59 The Carpet Maker Album Story38:17 Marketing vs Meaning40:46 Building Community Through Shows43:57 Advice and Influences to Explore47:17 Where to Find the Music48:08 Release Dates and Farewell48:51 Coda51:16 Featured Song: "Hold Your Keys" by Michael Isaak, written by Michael Isaak & Sohail BagheriStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now!https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

Prin’s Second Verse: From 9/11 Hospitalization to Wellness-Centered Music ProductionHost Becky Boyland interviews New Jersey-based music producer, author, and educator Prin, who began playing piano by ear at age three, worked as a paid musician by 15, and built a thriving NYC gigging and composing life while at Fordham. After graduating in 2001, untreated bipolar disorder and substance abuse led her into a free inpatient case-study program at the New York State Psychiatric Institute, where she was hospitalized on 9/11, prompting a renewed commitment to mental health. A back injury halted performing for years, shifting her into counseling, education, and writing. After leaving higher ed, she was hit by a car and suffered lasting left-hand nerve damage, later returning to gigs and releasing her first album in 2016. Subsequent car accidents, disc replacement surgery (2019), the pandemic, and her brother’s death after COVID led her into music production, sound healing, and an ambient grief project, “The Calm Principles.”https://youtu.be/OPJ9_mkKL1gConnect with Prin:https://www.facebook.com/musicbyprinhttps://www.instagram.com/musicbyprinhttps://www.tiktok.com/@musicbyprinhttps://musicbyprin.comSponsors:She Produces Music: https://www.sheproducesmusic.comFeatured Song:”A Long Time Coming” by Prin, written by Princess Yvonne Duma (used with permission). All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Teaser: Prin's Interview00:26 Introduction01:30 Meet Prin01:53 Early Piano Roots03:16 Stage Fright Breakthrough06:40 Fordham and NYC Hustle09:15 NYC Artist Community11:55 Fear of Original Music13:24 Mental Health Pivot16:30 In the Hospital During 9/1119:36 Back Injury Ends Gigging20:46 Career In Counseling Education22:23 SPONSOR: She Produces Music25:22 Quit Job Then Car Accident28:57 Return to Music and First Album30:45 Finding New Creative Tools31:36 Album Release Gets Derailed33:34 Surgery Recovery Meets Pandemic34:33 Learning Production Independence36:22 Grief Becomes Healing Project38:54 Mental Health and Balance43:19 Letting Songs Be Imperfect47:50 Reinventing Old Songs52:26 Production Tips and Tech01:00:34 Artist Identity and Where to Find Me01:03:05 Coda01:06:20 Featured Song: "A Long Time Coming" by PrinStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now!https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

Embracing Multiple Selves: A Journey into Music with Sophie BickerdikeIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland welcomes Sophie Bickerdike, an indie artist who shares her journey of exploring multiple musical identities under different names. Sophie talks about how she started creating music out of necessity during COVID for her yoga studio and evolved into producing meditative tracks, healing frequencies, and experimental sounds. She discusses the challenges of coming to music later in life, the joy of playful experimentation, and the power of finishing small projects. Sophie's story is an inspiring reminder that it's never too late to start a new creative journey.https://youtu.be/Qze1Cxw-jNYConnect with Sophie Bickerdike:Web: www.lunalightmusiclabel.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/sophiebickerdikemusicInstagram: www.instagram.com/sophiebickerdikemusicBandcamp: https://lunalightmusic.bandcamp.comMentioned in the Episode:Dr. Masaru Emoto: How Emotion Influences Water: https://bornastheearth.com/dr-masaru-emoto/Masaru Emoto Water Experiments: https://youtu.be/1qQUFvufXp4Life by XLN Audio: https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/lifeTalent Is Timeless Community: https://www.talentistimeless.com/Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”528Hz Manifest Miracles - Angelic Extended Mix” by LunaLight & Sophia Bickerdike, written by Sophia Bickerdike (used with permission). All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Episode Teaser: Sophie Bickerdike Interview00:32 Introduction01:59 Welcome to Sophie and Early Musical Influences03:02 Journey into Music Production04:01 Creating Relaxing and Experimental Music07:35 Exploring Different Musical Tools and Techniques13:02 Multiple Musical Personas19:20 Navigating Neurodivergence in Music23:36 Navigating Musical Identity and Acceptance24:40 BROUGHT TO YOU BY Attitude Creativity26:01 BROUGHT TO YOU BY Singing / Straw26:59 Balancing Band Life and Rehearsals27:29 Women in Music Production29:04 Exploring the Power of Music Frequencies34:52 Managing Multiple Music Projects41:46 Advice for Aspiring Musicians43:44 Where to Find and Support the Artist45:02 Coda46:55 Featured Song: "528Hz Manifest Miracles - Angelic Extended Mix" by LunaLight & Sophia BickerdikeStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now!https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now!https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

Embracing Creative Renewal: Adriana Douglas' Journey from Corporate to ArtistryIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland welcomes music artist and creative guide Adriana Douglas, who shares her inspiring journey from a decade-long corporate career to rediscovering her childhood dream of becoming a singer. Adriana discusses the pivotal moment when she embraced her artistic identity, the impact of Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way in unlocking her creativity, and her recent move to Nashville to immerse herself in a vibrant artistic community. Along with practical advice on navigating the music industry, Adriana emphasizes the importance of aligning career choices with personal values, the necessity of community support, and the resilience required to pursue artistic dreams. Listen in for an honest, energizing conversation about the challenges and triumphs of reclaiming one's creative passion.https://youtu.be/CNM4a7gvBBgConnect with Adriana Douglas:Web: https://www.adrianadouglas.com/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrianagdouglasInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theartofadrianaa/YouTube: https://youtube.com/@adrianagdouglasStreaming: on all major platformsSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”Dressed in Labels” by Adriana Douglas, written by Jessica Taylor, Adriana Douglas (used with permission). All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Episode Teaser Clip00:28 Episode Introduction02:01 Welcome to Adriana02:22 Adriana's Early Love for Music03:55 Rediscovering Music and Creativity05:35 The Impact of 'The Artist's Way'09:09 Embracing Creativity in Daily Life10:51 Moving to Nashville and New Beginnings12:02 Navigating the Music Industry26:09 The Importance of Community and Support33:37 Challenges and Sacrifices in Pursuing Music42:04 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Attitude Creativity43:25 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Singing / Straw44:22 Advice for Aspiring Artists49:39 Upcoming Projects and How to Support Adriana51:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts51:59 Coda54:09 Featured Song: "Dressed in Labels" by Adriana Douglas, written by Jessica Taylor & Adriana DouglasStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now! https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

Rediscovering Purpose Through Music with Kathi FranIn this episode of Second Verse hosted by Becky Boyland, we meet Kathi Copans, who creates under the artist name Kathi Fran. Kathi shares her inspiring journey of growing up in a musical home, navigating the ups and downs of life, and finding her way back to music and songwriting after illness and loss. This conversation covers a range of topics including the evolving definition of success, the healing power of music, and the importance of kindness in the creative community. Becky and Kathi also discuss the challenges and rewards of co-writing, the importance of authenticity in art, and how even small steps in pursuing one's passion can lead to significant personal fulfillment and impact. Tune in for an episode full of wisdom, resilience, and musical inspiration.https://youtu.be/EJrlJslaNroConnect with Kathi Fran:Instagram: @kat_rocks_13linktr.ee/kathifranSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”Wintering” by Kathi Fran, written by Kathi Fran Copans & Wilhelmina Fleur Lavinia Walter (used with permission). All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Kathi Fran Episode Teaser00:13 Introduction01:41 Welcome and Early Love for Music04:32 Transition to School Teaching07:43 Health Challenges and Rediscovery10:13 Philosophical Reflections on Music24:39 Creative Process and Collaborations26:33 The Self-Promoting Artist29:34 The Importance of Co-Writing and Community31:35 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Attitude Creativity32:56 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Singing / Straw33:54 Instrumentation and Production Techniques36:07 The Art of Using MIDI and Live Instruments42:51 Live Performances and Open Mics45:19 Future Plans and Dreams49:08 Advice for Aspiring Musicians50:42 Coda52:45 Featured Song: "Wintering" by Kathi Fran, written by Kathi Fran Copans & Wilhelmina Fleur Lavinia WalterStream all the released music from Second Verse any time!Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now! https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

Joshua David Thayer: From Sideman to Solo ArtistIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Joshua David Thayer, a seasoned bassist from Northampton, Massachusetts. After spending decades in supporting roles for various bands, the sudden loss of his father in 2023 inspired Josh to step into the spotlight as a solo artist at age 50. They discuss the creative process, using grief as a catalyst, and the importance of finishing projects over striving for perfection. Josh's journey is a testament to trusting the process and letting the material guide you to create honest and impactful work. Listen in as Josh shares his unique approach to music creation and the challenges of being an independent artist in 2025.https://youtu.be/1CMNvWBdM9sConnect with Joshua David Thayer:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshuadavidthayer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joshuadavidthayer/Bandcamp: https://joshuadavidthayer.bandcamp.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaDavidThayerWebsite: www.joshuadavidthayer.comMentioned in the episode:Subvert: https://subvert.fm/Rick Rubin's "The Creative Act: A Way of Being": https://sites.prh.com/thecreativeactDavid Bowie Cut-Up Method: https://www.openculture.com/2019/05/how-david-bowie-used-william-s-burroughs-cut-up-method-to-write-his-unforgettable-lyrics.htmlSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”We Won’t Relent” by Joshua David Thayer, written by Joshua David Thayer. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Teaser: Joshua David Thayer Interview00:28 Introduction to the Episode02:09 Welcoming Joshua David Thayer & Music Beginnings03:26 High School Band to Rock Band06:51 Early Success and Opportunities11:25 Transition to a "Traditional" Career18:19 FEATURING: Attitude Creativity19:40 FEATURING: Singing / Straw20:38 Rediscovering Music After Loss24:10 Josh's Unique Creative Process35:49 When Is the Music Ready?40:57 Challenges and Rewards of Modern Music Creation47:35 Current Projects and Future Plans55:31 How to Support Josh's Music57:35 Coda59:36 Featured Song: "We Won't Relent" by Joshua David ThayerStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Or to your Tidal now! https://tidal.com/playlist/c84934ad-2723-4d1a-919e-2aebd4b4974dStarting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

Building Confidence Through Small Steps: Insights from Second Verse PodcastIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland emphasizes the importance of building confidence through small steps. She shares personal experiences, including a transformative songwriting retreat in Scotland. Becky highlights how taking minor actions can snowball into greater self-assurance. Featuring stories from past guests like Ben Kintisch, Kelly Hastings, Greig Watts, and Chris Evans, she illustrates how simple, consistent efforts can lead to significant progress in music careers. Becky also addresses common confidence busters, such as comparison and perfectionism, and provides practical micro habits for artists. Download her 'Creative Momentum Map' to help boost your creative journey.https://youtu.be/YwuJLT61-zgDownload the Creative Momentum Map: 7 Small Actions to Reignite Your Music:https://secondversepod.com/confidenceConnect with Becky Boyland:https://beckyboyland.comhttps://instagram.com/beckyboylandhttps://tiktok.com/beckyboylandhttps://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusichttps://www.youtube.com/@beckyboylandSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintFeatured Song:”You Got Me” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland and Christina Ann Casella. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity01:19 Why Small Steps Matter03:31 The Confidence-Action Loop07:04 The Power of Small, Consistent Steps08:59 Overcoming Resistance and Perfectionism12:33 Building a Confidence Ecosystem14:43 Coda15:46 Featured Song: "You Got Me" by Becky BoylandSongs from the Podcast Playlist:Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

The Power of Collaboration for Indie ArtistsIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the transformative power of collaboration for indie musicians. She breaks down why working together is crucial, not just in co-writing or production, but also in building community and maintaining accountability. Becky shares her own experiences and provides a step-by-step guide on how to find and foster successful creative partnerships. The episode concludes with her top six benefits of collaborating, emphasizing the importance of community and shared growth in achieving musical success. Tune in to hear inspiring stories and get practical tips to enhance your music journey.https://youtu.be/6t-Pftkfo6wConnect with Becky Boyland:https://beckyboyland.comhttps://instagram.com/beckyboylandhttps://tiktok.com/beckyboylandhttps://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusichttps://www.youtube.com/@beckyboylandSponsor:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintFeatured Song:”Ticket” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity01:19 Episode Introduction03:14 The Myth of the "Solo Genius"05:03 Finding Your Collaborative Match07:46 Building Trust and Creative Chemistry10:53 Collaboration Beyond the Studio13:20  Top 6 Benefits of Collaborating as an Indie Music Artist15:04 Coda16:01 Featured Song: "Ticket" by Becky BoylandSongs from the Podcast Playlist:Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link

Building Your Creative Ecosystem: Nurturing Sustainable Artistry for Indie MusiciansIn this episode of Second Verse, hosted by Becky Boyland, indie music artists are guided on how to create and nurture a creative ecosystem that supports sustainable artistry. Sponsored by Attitude Creativity, the episode covers the importance of establishing an effective website and brand messaging. Becky emphasizes moving from clarity about one's artistic message to building a supportive environment that fosters growth. Key components include creative spaces, people, systems, and sustainability. Listeners are encouraged to develop intentional creative zones, build supportive circles, utilize structured systems, and prioritize rest in their creative journeys.https://youtu.be/1ja7IxIw9hUConnect with Becky Boyland:https://beckyboyland.comhttps://instagram.com/beckyboylandhttps://tiktok.com/beckyboylandhttps://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusicSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintFeatured Song:”Waiting for Wisdom” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Boyland & Sharon Vaughn. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity01:19 Episode Introduction02:03 Why Artists Need Creative Ecosystems04:42 The Four Components of a Creative Ecosystem16:25 Why a Creative Ecosystem Matters18:09 Coda19:34 Featured Song: "Waiting for Wisdom”Featured Music Playlist:Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link

Clarify Your Message as an Indie Artist: Practical Steps for SuccessThis episode of Second Verse, sponsored by Attitude Creativity, delves into the importance of clarity for indie music artists. The host discusses how having a clear message can help artists stand out and connect with their audience, emphasizing the need for consistent brand messaging across their website and social platforms. She offers three practical steps to craft a clear message: defining a one-liner that captures the essence of their music, testing it with friends for authenticity, and consistently applying it across all platforms. The episode concludes with the host's encouraging song, “Running on Empty,” which celebrates those who support us in our lives.https://youtu.be/g0LtDFLgEbcConnect with Becky Boyland:https://beckyboyland.comhttps://instagram.com/beckyboylandhttps://tiktok.com/beckyboylandhttps://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusicSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintFeatured Song:”Running on Empty” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 S2E6 How to Clarify Your Message as an Artist01:19 Becky's Welcome & Introduction03:05 Why Clarity Matters05:00 Common Mistakes Artists Make07:33 The Three Elements of an Artist Message14:00 Coda16:13 Three Practical Next Steps17:46 Featured Song: "Running on Empty" by Becky BoylandSongs from the Second Verse Podcast Playlist:Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

https://youtu.be/snCA8bN_M5AOvercoming Imposter Syndrome: Embracing Your Creative JourneyIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the impacts of imposter syndrome on indie music artists and the ways it hinders their creative journeys. Becky shares her personal stories and insights from interviews with fellow artists to shed light on the pervasive nature of doubt as they navigate their second act in music. The episode delves into mindset challenges, offering three practical shifts: reframing fear, finding connection over comparison, and rooting identity in story, not stats. Becky emphasizes the importance of embracing one's authenticity and pushing through self-doubt to share one's art with the world. Tune in for actionable insights, motivational anecdotes, and strategies to overcome creative fears.Connect with Becky Boyland:https://beckyboyland.comhttps://instagram.com/beckyboylandhttps://tiktok.com/beckyboylandhttps://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusicSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintFeatured Song:”Washed Away” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Boyland & Rick Molloy. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Related Episodes:Rick Molloy: https://youtu.be/AVowKYaPprUBob Strachan: https://youtu.be/-YO_REsMHRsGreig Watts: https://youtu.be/jqO8KXZ9LUQBree Noble: https://youtu.be/vMHK04GMNpkBenjamin Kintisch: https://youtu.be/tJKaNe4EFDcKelly Hastings: https://youtu.be/sth9eXvXbdMTimestamps:00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity01:19 Episode Intro: Imposter Syndrome02:45 Why We Feel Like Imposters06:15 How Imposter Syndrome Shows Up for Creatives08:06 Three Shifts that Help You Push Through13:44 Coda15:14 Featured Song: "Washed Away" by Becky BoylandSongs from the Second Verse Podcast Playlist:Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

https://youtu.be/o1OxfMM-rIcCrafting a Musical Journey: Steven McDonald's Return to SongwritingIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky welcomes songwriter and lawyer Steven McDonald from Edinburgh, Scotland. They explore his musical journey, starting from his early influences in a musically rich family to his pandemic-driven return to songwriting. Steven shares insights on balancing his legal career with his music passion, the significance of physical music formats, and the value of perseverance. With his debut album Songs About Love, Steven illustrates how meaningful music can be created in life's second act. The conversation emphasizes the importance of pursuing passions without regrets, fostering a supportive community, and the diverse avenues available for indie artists.Connect with Steven McDonald:https://linktr.ee/stevenmcdonaldhttps://www.tallboyperformingarts.co.uk/https://instagram.com/tallboyperformingartshttps://shop.lastnightfromglasgow.com/products/steven-mcdonald-songs-about-love-lp-cd-dl-pre-orderSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”Songs About Love” by Steven McDonald, written by Steven McDonald. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Teaser: Steven McDonald Interview02:03 Welcoming Steven McDonald02:11 Early Musical Influences03:44 Transition to Law and Return to Music04:18 Songwriting During the Pandemic07:25 Current Projects and Album Promotion09:23 The Vinyl and CD Resurgence16:43 Musical Influences and Mentorship19:23 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity20:44 SPONSOR: Singing / Straw21:41 Balancing Music and Law37:34 Advice for Aspiring Musicians41:28 Conclusion and How to Support43:42 Coda45:26 Featured Song: "Songs About Love" by Steven McDonaldStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

https://youtu.be/vMHK04GMNpkRediscovering Dreams: Bree Noble's Journey from Finance to Music EntrepreneurshipIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Bree Noble, a singer-songwriter who transitioned from being a finance director at an opera company to founding Women of Substance Radio. Bree shares her experience of pivoting from a corporate career to pursuing her passion for music, emphasizing the importance of confidence, community, and treating art as a business. She discusses how she managed to sustain her music career through strategic planning and leveraging connections, while also offering valuable advice for artists looking to reignite their musical dreams. This episode provides inspiring insights into balancing responsibility with passion and the power of mentorship and community in achieving artistic goals.Connect with Bree:https://profitablemusician.comhttps://instagram.com/profitablemusicianllchttps://www.wosradio.com/Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”Healing Waters” by Bree Noble, written by Bree Noble. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Interview Teaser00:29 Introduction01:55 Welcome and Early Love for Music02:30 High School Choir and Musical Journey03:40 College and Discovering a Passion for Business06:40 Balancing Music and a Practical Career10:33 Transition to Finance and Opera Company Experience14:02 Health Challenges and Life Changes16:55 Building a Music Career and Forming a Band22:18 Launching Women of Substance26:05 Discovering the Power of Speaking in Music Programs26:49 The Evolution of Keynote Concerts29:22 Adapting to Changes in the Music Industry30:28 Building a Music Career as an Independent Artist33:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity34:21 SPONSOR: Singing / Straw35:19 The Importance of Community and Mentorship43:06 Balancing Multiple Roles and Responsibilities45:35 Encouragement for Aspiring Musicians51:03 Connecting and Learning with Profitable Musician Show52:34 Coda54:31 Featured Song: "Healing Waters" by Bree NobleSongs from the Podcast Playlist:Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

https://youtu.be/tJKaNe4EFDcFinding Harmony in Hospice: Benjamin Kintisch's Journey with Life Review: The Hospice MusicalIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland speaks with Benjamin Kintisch, a chaplain, music teacher, and cantor, about his transformation from a cantor to the creator of Life Review: The Hospice Musical. Kintisch shares how chaplaincy experiences shaped his musical, emphasizing music as a medium for healing and connection. The discussion covers imposter syndrome, the importance of saying yes to creative opportunities, and the evolution of Life Review through the COVID pandemic. He offers insights into song co-writing, community support, and finding joy through musical exploration. The episode concludes by inspiring listeners to share their authentic stories and build circles of collaborators and supporters.Connect with Ben:Web: lifereviewmusical.comInstagram: @lifereviewmusicalResources:Sue Horowitz, JSCR (Jewish Songwriter Cooperative Retreat), Album: Notes from the Garrison: https://www.suehorowitz.com/Alex Palting, The Hustling Creative: https://www.alexandramariapalting.com/End-of-Life University Podcast, https://eolupodcast.com/Today We Laughed… and Learned Podcast, https://www.instagram.com/todaywelaughedandlearned/Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Timestamps:00:00 Benjamin Kintisch Interview Teaser00:23 Introduction01:27 Welcome and Early Musical Influences03:11 Transition to Cantor and Teaching04:56 Becoming a Chaplain and Musical Inspiration08:00 Creating and Performing Life Review23:55 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity25:14 SPONSOR: Singing / Straw26:15 How Comedy and Music Help with the Hard Conversations30:46 COVID-19 Impact and Adaptation36:51 The Power of Support in Creative Projects37:43 Navigating the COVID Era and Fringe Festivals38:59 The Importance of Scheduling and Follow-ups40:47 Collaborations and Overcoming Imposter Syndrome42:01 The Journey of a Creative: From Ideas to Execution46:25 Encouraging Musical Exploration47:37 The Role of Hobbies in a Creative Life49:02 The Impact of Retreats and Songwriting Prompts53:29 Leveraging Social Media for Creative Projects56:07 Final Thoughts and Encouragement59:11 CodaStream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

https://youtu.be/8f2Z06_8-9QTrusting the Long Winding Road with Bryan Boliver: Embracing Creativity and Faith in MusicIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland speaks with Bryan Boliver, a singer-songwriter, worship leader, producer, and content creator. Bryan shares his inspiring journey from rock band dreams to worship ministry and full-time music production, emphasizing the importance of enjoying the craft of creating. The discussion highlights overcoming perfectionism, the role of technology in enhancing abilities, and the value of collaboration. Bryan's story underscores that God's timing is perfect and that each detour can be part of a bigger plan. The episode concludes with a new worship song, “New Covenant,” by Rock Harbor Worship.CONNECT WITH BRYAN:https://www.bryanbolivermusic.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/bryanboliverInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/bryanboliverhttps://open.spotify.com/artist/2xdw8Aa0DRetWarKBDZlwi?si=AIqSBidBSfGp-f-76n2Boghttps://open.spotify.com/artist/6SdDJBb9TYPG2wAHAs7iXP?si=sXMjikYQT96WnF3sj4QRywSponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”New Covenant” by Rock Harbor Worship, written by Bryan Boliver, Chase Buchanan & Aaron Hoskins. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Bryan Boliver Interview Teaser00:14 Introduction01:55 Welcome, Bryan Boliver02:12 Early Musical Influences04:13 Aspirations and Early Band Experiences05:54 The Turning Point: Meeting Suzy07:59 Return to Music and New Opportunities11:36 Navigating the Music Industry15:18 The Importance of Flexibility and Relationships19:55 The Creative Process and Overcoming Perfectionism27:51 Faith, Music, and Purpose32:41 The Emotional Power of Music33:48 Discovering a Path in Music35:24 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity36:45 Sponsor: Singing / Straw37:42 Journey into Music Production40:13 Transition to Full-Time Music Production44:52 Navigating Visual Impairment in Music52:09 Encouragement for Aspiring Musicians55:46 The Importance of Capturing Inspiration01:00:47 Where to Find Bryan Online01:02:15 Coda01:03:51 Featured Song: "New Covenant”Playlist:Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285Starting your own podcast? Sign up with Captivate to host your show today! https://fas.st/t/ZHbLxEpe (affiliate link)

Becky Boyland, singer-songwriter and marketing strategist, introduces Season 2 of her podcast Second Verse, which explores the stories of indie artists rediscovering their passion for music. The podcast features resilient musicians transitioning to new chapters, including those who balanced artistry with motherhood, teaching, business, and more. Season 2 delves deeper into personal experiences such as an artist finding his calling and a songwriter inspired by hospice care. Becky also shares her own journey and provides practical advice for creatives. Listeners are encouraged to subscribe and share their stories, embracing the idea that it’s never too late to revive one's musical creativity.00:00 Introduction to Second Verse00:20 Recap of Season 100:54 What's Coming in Season 201:34 Becky's Personal Insights01:58 Encouragement for Creatives02:26 Join the Second Verse Community

https://youtu.be/OQVWCmM24K4Finding Your Second Verse: Stories of Returning to Music Against All OddsIn this special episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland celebrates the completion of season one by revisiting powerful moments from the podcast. With inspiring stories from artists like Adassa, Kelly Hastings, Rick Molloy, and many more, Becky explores the journeys of musicians who returned to their passion after facing life-changing challenges. From vocal paralysis to career shifts, these stories highlight the power of community, mentorship, and the belief that it's never too late to follow your dreams. Whether you're just starting or reigniting your passion for music, this episode is a tribute to the resilience and healing power of creativity.Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Featured Song:”What You Mean to Me” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Timestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:57 Introduction to the Season Finale of Second Verse02:42 The Call Back to Music05:58 The Journey Through Darkness10:14 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity11:30 Sponsor: Singing / Straw12:32 Finding Your Tribe16:30 Starting Small, Dreaming Big19:23 Coda: Your Second Verse Awaits23:51 Featured Song: "What You Mean to Me" by Becky Boyland

Rediscovering Musical Joy with Ryan Pryor of Inglewood InstrumentsIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland sits down with Ryan Pryor, Founder of Inglewood Instruments and creator of the Cumberland dulcimer guitar. Ryan shares his unique journey from studying music in college to pivoting through various careers before discovering a new passion for designing instruments. Listen in as they discuss the importance of making music accessible, the process of instrument innovation, and how trying something different can reignite creativity. Perfect for both beginners and seasoned musicians, this episode offers inspiration and practical insights.Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Connect with Ryan Pryor:Website: https://heyinglewood.com/Email: [email protected]: https://www.facebook.com/heyinglewoodInstagram: @heyinglewood https://www.instagram.com/heyinglewood/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-2ohSzzPjX60ulbn5ruE1gTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip: Ryan Pryor of Inglewood Instruments00:34 Becky's Intro01:54 Welcoming Ryan02:04 Ryan's Early Musical Journey03:38 High School and Discovering Music Theory06:31 College Years and Audio Engineering07:21 Post-College Career Path09:21 Discovering the Dulcimer11:16 Building and Innovating Dulcimers11:38 The Cumberland Model and Its Features16:37 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity17:58 Sponsor: Singing / Straw18:56 Discovering the Inglewood Dulcimer Guitar22:09 Discussing Instrument Design and Playability29:32 Exploring New Headspaces with Capos31:39 The Unique Characteristics of Diatonic Instruments33:55 Introduction to Inglewood Play Education Courses35:06 Beginner Course Details and Learning Path36:37 Challenges and Benefits of Learning Music Online44:36 Future Aspirations and New Instrument Ideas47:04 Blending Acoustic and Electric Instruments52:17 Combining Different Musical Influences54:15 Where to Find More Information and Courses55:39 Coda

Kelly Hastings: Reclaiming Dreams, Embracing Music, and Raising Mental Health AwarenessIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland converses with Kelly Hastings, a resilient singer-songwriter and mother of six, who reached the semi-finals on The Voice UK in 2023 and competed in Y Llais (the Welsh version of The Voice). Kelly shares her inspiring journey of returning to music after raising her children, the empowering experience of pursuing dreams later in life, and the healing power of songwriting. This candid discussion delves into overcoming rejection, the importance of mental health awareness, and the transformative force of music. It's a must-listen for anyone feeling the whisper of unfulfilled dreams and needing encouragement to take that leap. Second Verse website Support Second Verse Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”) Connect with Kelly Hastings:Facebook @kellyhastingsofficial https://www.facebook.com/kellyhastingsofficialInstagram @kelhast81 https://www.instagram.com/kelhast81/TikTok @kellyhastings938 https://www.tiktok.com/@kellyhastings938Timestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip: Kelly Hastings 00:37 Introduction to the Episode 02:00 Welcoming Kelly Hastings 02:12 Early Musical Influences 03:15 Balancing Family and Music 04:02 Family's Musical Journey 04:49 Reentering the Music Scene 08:04 The Voice UK Experience 11:19 Welsh Voice Adventure 14:42 Current Musical Pursuits 15:58 Mental Health and Music 25:28 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity 26:49 Sponsor: Singing / Straw 27:46 Creative Process and Influences 42:51 Encouragement for Aspiring Artists 45:31 Coda

Unmasking the Hidden Superpower: Neurodivergence and Creativity in MusicIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland dives deep into how neurodivergence, particularly ADHD, manifests in the lives of artists and why it is often a hidden superpower. Becky shares her personal journey of navigating ADHD, from the initial chaotic symptoms to the profound sense of relief and empowerment upon getting a diagnosis. The episode explores the intersection of neurodivergence and creativity, illustrating how differences in brain wiring contribute to musical innovation and artistic inspiration. It also offers actionable advice on embracing these unique traits to enhance one's creative process. Tune in to learn about the role of neurodivergence in fostering a rich, creative life and discover valuable resources to support your journey.FREE WORKSHEET: “YOUR CREATIVE MAP”https://secondversepod.com/?ff_landing=5&form=neurodivergent-artistSPONSORS:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)REFERENCES:https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23154-neurodivergenthttps://www.additudemag.com/attention-deficit-disorder-vast/?srsltid=AfmBOoooK-0PzSTJ-SF5tJKIvFFoa13GEW0w2v8JzVIHPPDId8ZJ9jrehttps://www.science.org/content/article/disorder-or-difference-autism-researchers-face-over-field-s-terminologyhttps://resources.healthgrades.com/right-care/adhd/9-surprising-facts-about-childhood-adhd-attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder#:~:text=1.%20ADHD%20was%20first%20recognized%20in%201902.%20The%20symptoms%20of%20attention-deficit%2Fhyperactivity%20disorder%20were%20first%20described%20in%201902%2C%20when%20clinicians%20noticed%20that%20some%20children%20were%20more%20inattentive%2C%20impulsive%20and%20hyperactive%20than%20others.https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/what-is-autism/the-history-of-autismhttps://resources.healthgrades.com/right-care/adhd/9-surprising-facts-about-childhood-adhd-attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder#:~:text=1.%20ADHD%20was%20first%20recognized%20in%201902.%20The%20symptoms%20of%20attention-deficit%2Fhyperactivity%20disorder%20were%20first%20described%20in%201902%2C%20when%20clinicians%20noticed%20that%20some%20children%20were%20more%20inattentive%2C%20impulsive%20and%20hyperactive%20than%20others.https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisafalco/2024/11/05/helping-women-navigate-adhd-autism-and-hormonal-health/https://www.hunterinafarmersworld.com/abouthttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12047549/https://www.cdc.gov/adhd/data/index.htmlhttps://www.cdc.gov/autism/data-research/index.htmlRESOURCES:Cleveland Clinic - Neurodivergent: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23154-neurodivergentADDCA ADHD & Life Coach Training: https://addca.comAutism Research Institute: https://autism.orgNational Autistic Society: https://autism.org.ukADHD Online: https://adhdonline.comHow to ADHD: https://howtoadhd.comADHD Women’s Wellbeing: https://www.adhdwomenswellbeing.co.ukThe Hallowell ADHD Centers: https://drhallowell.comTracy Otsuka: https://adhdforsmartwomen.comFEATURED SONG:”I Don’t Have Time” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission.TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Teaser Clip: Becky Boyland and ADHD00:33 Welcome and My Neurodivergence Story07:10 Defining the Neurodivergence Landscape15:29 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity16:50 Sponsor: Singing / Straw17:47 The Artist's Brain21:19 The Shame Spiral25:56 Why This Matters to Neurodivergent Artists Now28:52 Wrap-Up: Action & Encouragement30:55 Featured Song: "I Don't Have Time" by Becky Boyland

From Vinyl to Film Scores: How David Rosen Found His Musical CallingIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with David Rosen, a versatile indie artist whose journey spans from growing up in a family-owned record store to producing rap music, composing film scores, and creating comedy rock about his pets. David shares the importance of letting one creative endeavor fuel another, and reveals insights into building long-term collaborative relationships. From using different DAWs to making movie-inspired music and creating eclectic projects like The Pup Pups, David's story is a testament to stacking your passions wherever they lead. Tune in for an inspiring conversation packed with actionable advice for any indie artist.Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Connect with David Rosen:https://www.bydavidrosen.comhttps://www.youtube.com/musicbydavidrosenhttps://open.spotify.com/artist/6DmD8UrO4UEjz3aYdz1nbZ?si=N6eFFOf8S1SUHoaKDbgJYQhttps://open.spotify.com/artist/7MZZckZ0jCfm53FpAPsU7z?si=FZw06SN2RYOn8D6FeMdZqAhttps://www.facebook.com/bydavidrosenhttps://www.piecingpod.comhttps://twitter.com/piecingpodhttps://instagram.com/piecingpodhttps://www.awesomemovieyear.comTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip: David Rosen00:24 Becky's Welcome and Introduction01:32 Welcoming David and Early Musical Influences02:41 Discovering a Passion for Music03:48 Early Musical Ventures10:50 Transition to Film Scoring20:00 The Pup Pups: A Unique Musical Project25:04 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity26:25 Sponsor: Singing / Straw27:22 Music Videos and Collaborations28:35 Upcoming Album and Projects35:47 Podcasting Journey43:11 Advice for Independent Artists44:04 Final Thoughts and Connecting with David46:34 The Coda47:47 Featured Song: "How to Start a Fire" by David Rosen

Phil Lovell: From Classroom to Songwriting - A Journey of Creativity and PersistenceIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Phil Lovell, a retired teacher turned songwriter who crafts thoughtful songs in English and Welsh. Phil shares his journey from nurturing his musical passion quietly while working in education for over 30 years to diving fully into songwriting and performing after retirement. They discuss Phil’s creative process, the impact of music on culture, the challenges of self-promotion, and the importance of pursuing one’s passion at any stage in life. Phil’s story emphasizes that creativity deepens with time and offers inspiration for anyone who thinks they’ve missed their chance. Stay tuned for his energetic Welsh song, 'Dw i’n canu fy nghân.'Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Connect with Phil Lovell (Baglanbren):Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/baglanbren/X: https://x.com/baglanbrenTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baglanbrenPhil’s Music:https://open.spotify.com/album/18FSt8LPogmNTxZuac3CCK?si=uD86_3SCRKCxBANCBKfknQhttps://youtu.be/pYI8NEInZWA?si=Io1MNIuZsYfA9XTThttps://youtu.be/D_Z4DvpRgwc?si=C-Wsppn3oA6hi89PFeatured Song:“Dw i’n canu fy nghân” by Phil Lovell / Baglanbren, written by Phil Lovell (used with permission).Timestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip: Phil Lovell00:27 Episode Intro01:49 Welcome Phil and Early Musical Influences03:36 Teaching and Songwriting Journey04:51 Reconnecting with Former Students05:37 Welsh Music Competitions and Traditions06:45 Transitioning Back to Music After Retirement07:18 Songwriting Courses and Collaborations09:29 Performing and Recording Experiences16:26 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity17:47 Sponsor: Singing / Straw18:45 Challenges and Rewards of Songwriting25:23 The Importance of Arts in Education34:18 Influences from the Past36:50 The Craft of Songwriting40:58 Realistic Advice for Aspiring Musicians48:36 Conclusion and Farewell49:38 The Coda51:24 Featured Song: Dw i’n canu fy nghân

Finding Success by Saying Yes: Greig Watts' Journey from Banking to Hit SongwritingIn this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Greig Watts, a music publisher and songwriting mentor who transitioned from a career in banking to co-founding DWB Music. Watts shares his inspiring journey of pursuing his passion for music, the importance of mentorship, and the power of saying 'yes' to opportunities. He discusses developing and guiding songwriters, the significance of being accountable, and how to keep the creative spark alive. Greig's story is a testament to the courage needed to follow your dreams and the rewards that come from perseverance and open-mindedness.Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)Follow Greig Watts & DWB Music:DWB Website: https://www.dwbmusicgroup.com/DWB Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwbmusic/DWB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DwbMusicLtd/DWB Songwriting Mentors: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089439048327Greig Watts Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/greig.wattsTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:37 Introduction01:55 Welcome and Early Influences02:57 Teenage Years and Musical Growth06:47 Balancing Music and Career08:48 Transition to Full-Time Music11:17 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity12:36 Sponsor: Singing / Straw13:33 Founding DWB14:32 Mentorship and Development21:04 Diversifying in the Music Industry24:35 The Power of Getting Your Song Heard26:52 Mentorship and the Journey to Success28:52 The Importance of Saying Yes31:47 The Value of Co-Writing and Collaboration32:27 Writing and Releasing a Book35:10 Learning from Failures and Moving Forward37:10 Joining the Mentorship Program39:54 Building a Community of Songwriters44:08 Final Thoughts and Advice for Indie Artists47:38 The Coda

Hooky Anthems and Disenchanted Optimists: Chris Evans Finds Joy in Music's Second ActJoin host Becky Boyland on the Second Verse podcast as she chats with Chris Evans, an alt/indie rock artist, songwriter, and producer known as AudioGust. Dive into Chris's fascinating journey from '80s rock bands to a successful software career and back to music. Learn how he built his own soundproof studio, released over three dozen songs, and collaborates with artists worldwide. Chris shares valuable insights on balancing logic and heart, finding creative joy, and approaching music with a blend of precision and play. Discover how Chris handles writer’s block, his perspective on perfectionism, and the importance of community in music. Perfect for indie artists and creatives ready to find their Second Verse in music.Sponsors:Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintSinging / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied)Follow Chris Evans / AudioGust:Website: https://audiogust.comInstagram: @audiogustmusic (https://www.instagram.com/audiogustmusic)Threads: @audiogustmusic (https://www.threads.com/@audiogustmusic)Bandcamp: https://audiogust.bandcamp.comFeatured Song:“Here We Go Again” by AudioGust, written by Chris Evans (used with permission). Stream or buy wherever you get your music.Timestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:31 Welcome and Introduction01:36 Music in Chris's Early Life02:40 College Years and Early Career03:50 Transition to Software05:53 Retirement and Return to Music07:17 Songwriting and Production14:06 Finding an Audience17:58 The Creative Process20:03 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity21:24 Sponsor: Singing / Straw22:22 Loving, and Finishing, Songs25:31 Releasing Music and Growth35:41 Storytelling in Songs37:19 Empathy in Songwriting41:44 Transitioning Careers45:26 The Joy of Creating Music47:24 Advice for Aspiring Songwriters49:54 The Importance of Inspiration56:40 Where to Follow AudioGust57:48 The Coda59:27 Featured Song: "Here We Go Again" by AudioGust

Healing Through Music: Overcoming Vocal Trauma with Guest Whitney NicholeIn this deeply personal episode, host Becky Boyland shares her compelling journey of overcoming vocal trauma following major spine surgery. Initially facing the terrifying possibility of never singing again due to a paralyzed vocal cord, Becky describes the emotional and physical challenges she faced. She highlights the pivotal role of vocal coach Whitney Nichole, who introduced Becky to transformative techniques like straw phonation. Together, they worked meticulously to rebuild her voice, ultimately leading Becky to new vocal heights. This episode is a testament to perseverance, hope, and the power of music to heal. Tune in to hear this inspiring story and Becky's latest single, “Loving You.”Resources:About Whitney NicholeThe Singing / Straw Website with 10% discount (or use coupon code "secondverse")The Singing / Straw YouTube ChannelSongbird StudiosFeatured Song:”Loving You” by Becky Boyland, written by Philip Lovell and Becky Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.Add to your library now: https://hypeddit.com/beckyboyland/lovingyouTimestamps:00:00 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity01:19 Teaser: My Story of Vocal Healing01:33 Intro: Setting the Stage01:46 The Unexpected Loss03:54 Healing and Complication08:05 Searching for Solutions and the Start of the Journey Back09:09 Vocal Coaching11:33 Lessons, and Not Just the Voice Kind14:25 Conversation with Whitney Nichole51:06 Conclusion and the Ongoing Journey52:13 Featured Song: "Loving You”

From FBI Agent to Music Composer: Tia Hoffer's JourneyIn this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Tia Hoffer, who has successfully transitioned from being an FBI Special Agent to a production music composer. They discuss Tia's early love for music, her fascinating career in psychology and law enforcement, and the mindset shifts that led her to pursue a music career later in life. Tia shares insights on the importance of starting imperfectly, protecting creative energy, and the numerous opportunities available in music beyond traditional artist roles. She also talks about her creative process, the therapeutic aspect of music, and her aspirations in the production music industry. The episode emphasizes the significance of taking small steps toward one's dreams and the value of community and mentorship in overcoming challenges.Connect with Tia:Website: zeninumusic.comInstagram: @zeninumusicFacebook: Tia AlaneResources:Produce Like a BossProduction Music MasterclassTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:25 Episode Introduction01:49 Welcome to Tia and Early Musical Influences02:30 Exploring Career Opportunities in Music05:35 Psychology and FBI Career Journey07:48 Transition to Music Production09:12 Learning and Growing in Music Production15:00 Creative Process and Musical Style17:23 Challenges and Future Goals26:18 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity27:40 Focusing on Production Music28:12 Medical Challenges and Reevaluating Priorities29:38 Psychological Insights for Musicians36:48 Social Media and Branding Challenges44:52 Advice for Aspiring Musicians52:16 The Importance of Music in Media53:14 Conclusion and Contact Information54:15 Becky's Wrap-Up56:22 Featured Song: "Shame" by Kai Z

Rediscovering the Creative Spark: Alfredo Paz's Journey as Elephant EarsIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Alfredo Paz, known professionally as Elephant Ears—a talented producer, songwriter, and sound designer. Alfredo shares his journey of leaving and then rediscovering his passion for music after years in the sound engineering and film industry. He discusses the significance of collaboration, the challenges of balancing life and creativity, and the emotional depth he brings to his music. Highlights include Alfredo's insights on the music industry, his unique creation processes, and the importance of authenticity and community in creative work.Connect with Alfredo Paz (Elephant Ears):Website: www.elephantears.co.ukInstagram: @elephant_ears_audioFacebook: elephant_ears_audio Linktree: https://linktr.ee/elephant_ears_audioFeatured Song:”Black Ink” by Elephant Ears feat. Dom Durner and Giulio Romano Malaisi, written by Johanna Lundström and Alfredo Paz (used with permission).Timestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:20 Episode Introduction01:25 Welcoming Alfredo01:46 Early Musical Influences02:32 Learning Music and Early Challenges05:49 Professional Beginnings and Break08:15 Transition to Sound Engineering09:58 Return to Music During the Pandemic14:25 The Birth of Elephant Ears16:22 Collaborations and Musical Style24:06 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity25:28 Challenges of Balancing Music and Life29:28 The Role of Authenticity in Music30:21 Encouragement for Aspiring Musicians34:28 The Value of Collaboration36:15 Promoting Your Music Effectively37:46 Where to Find and Support the Artist41:05 Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts42:36 Featured Song: "Black Ink”

Adassa's Journey: From Paralysis to Disney's EncantoIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Adassa, the bilingual Afro-Latina voice actress, singer, and songwriter. Adassa shares her remarkable journey of resilience, from facing a sudden health crisis and total paralysis to achieving a breakout role as Dolores Madrigal in Disney's Encanto. The conversation touches on the importance of community, consistency, and authenticity in the music industry. Adassa also offers practical tips and wisdom for indie artists striving to find their voice and purpose in challenging times.Connect with Adassa:WebsiteTikTokInstagramTwitter / XYouTubeFacebookTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:33 Introduction02:40 Welcoming Adassa02:59 Early Musical Beginnings03:59 First Steps into Professional Music06:25 Career Highlights and Family Decisions07:17 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity08:40 Behind the Scenes11:21 Unexpected Opportunity with Disney16:37 Health Crisis and Personal Struggles23:22 Miraculous Recovery and Recording for Encanto25:49 Embracing New Skills and Perspectives26:39 Relearning and Patience27:31 Finding Your Voice Through Adversity28:22 Building a Supportive Community30:46 The Importance of Mentorship34:56 Balancing Family and Career37:38 Prioritizing and Achieving Goals45:32 Advice for Aspiring Artists48:29 Conclusion and Gratitude49:31 Wrap-Up and Takeaways

From Nursing to Music Production: Cindy's Inspirational JourneyIn this episode, Becky welcomes Cindy Slee to discuss her profound journey from a musically inspired childhood to a dedicated nurse, and finally becoming a full-time musician after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Cindy shares how her early love for music, fostered by her family's influence, evolved from enjoying the piano stylings of Liberace to mastering the guitar influenced by The Beatles. Despite a thriving nursing career, her love for music persisted, eventually becoming her primary focus. Cindy delves into how her MS diagnosis necessitated a career shift, leading her to embrace music fully. She discusses her experiences with a church band, forming a gospel group, producing music for ads, and her recent endeavor to inspire others through keynote concerts. Cindy highlights the importance of seizing opportunities and finding a silver lining in adversity. The episode underscores resilience, passion, and the power of following one's true calling. Then stick around to hear her original song 'Once in a Lifetime.'Connect with Cindy:https://www.cindysleemusic.comhttps://www.cynthiakeynoteconcerts.comApple Music / iTunes: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/cindy-slee/895299558Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6yogaOgnhXk25JSOoF98Vo?si=A8IDpmRsSQyx7ThoG5_U8wYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCAWuHRMiJjF2VVmbh6-6Hiw?si=-FNzGJvzfN11DkBxFeatured Song:“Once In A Lifetime” by Cindy Slee, written by Cynthia L. Slee (used with permission).Timestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:26 Introduction03:01 Welcome and Early Musical Influences04:28 Family Influence and Career Path06:22 Transition from Nursing to Music07:42 Building a Music Career09:42 Learning and Growing During COVID11:24 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity12:46 Collaboration from (Virtually) Anywhere17:35 Keynote Concerts and Future Plans25:47 Advice and Final Thoughts28:54 Wrap-Up and Conclusion31:20 Featured Song: "Once in a Lifetime" by Cindy Slee

Finding My Second Verse: A Solo Journey with Becky Boyland, the Host of Second Verse PodcastIn this special solo episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland shares her inspiring personal journey to her music dream. She emphasizes that it's never too late to return to your passion, offering her own story as proof. The episode covers her early love for music, including her journey from playing trumpet in high school to studying Bible and Educational Ministries in college. A pivotal moment came when she rediscovered the guitar, which took her musical passion to a new level. The host also touches on her battle with self-doubt, her discovery of being neurodivergent, and the importance of community and mentors in her musical evolution. She interweaves stories from past guests, highlighting the powerful lessons they've taught her. The episode concludes with an emotional song called 'It's Your Story Now' that delves into reclaiming one's life.Featured Song:”It’s Your Story Now” by Becky Boyland is written and produced by Becky Boyland. Used with permission. https://hypeddit.com/beckyboyland/itsyourstorynowTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:17 Welcome and Introduction01:18 The First Verse: Early Dreams & Quiet Longing03:59 New Perspective: One Scroll, One Spark05:00 Leveling Up: Putting in the Work05:59 My Second Verse Now07:00 What I've Learned from My Guests07:52 The ADHD Discovery: This Is How I'm Wired09:01 What Comes Next: Your Second Verse10:20 Your Turn to Take Action11:04 Song: "It's Your Story Now”

Bob Strachan's Musical Resurgence: Healing Through Songwriting and RediscoveryIn this episode of 'Second Verse,' host Becky Boyland interviews Bob Strachan, an award-winning singer-songwriter from Scotland. Bob shares his journey of returning to music during the lockdown after initial success in the 2000s. He discusses his upbringing amidst diverse musical influences, experiences of personal loss, and how music has been a pivotal tool for healing and reconnecting with his roots. Bob opens up about dealing with grief over his father's death, his experiences with cult-like churches, and his diagnosis of neurodivergence. His journey highlights the transformative power of music and the importance of embracing one’s story and creativity. Becky and Bob also touch on the evolving music industry, the impact of creativity on education, and the significance of being not only skilled but also good to be around.Follow Bob:Timestamps:

https://youtu.be/lfF_FfI1bssJack Marchant: The Power of Persistence and Community in Music ProductionIn this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews London-based music producer Jack Marchant. They discuss his journey from childhood experiences in music studios with his dad's band to overcoming physical health challenges and making a full-time career in music production. Key topics include the importance of community, the reality of building a sustainable music career, and the value of mentorship. Jack shares insights on the struggle of pricing work fairly, the significance of authenticity in music, and the role of social media in connecting with fans. The episode closes with Jack emphasizing his personal slogan, 'Music for all, no matter the journey,' and offering practical advice for aspiring artists and producers.Connect with Jack:https://www.facebook.com/MarchantMusicProductions/Instagram @MarchantmusicTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:20 Welcome and Intro01:31 Jack's Early Life and Musical Influences02:57 Transition to Music Production05:45 Breakthrough with Georgiou Music07:24 The Importance of Community and Mental Health09:36 Navigating the Music Industry11:10 Challenges and Advice for Aspiring Artists16:06 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity17:29 An Exchange of Value19:42 Jack's Health Struggles and Full-Time Music Career24:12 Overcoming Vocal Challenges25:30 The Power of Authenticity in Music27:12 Building Community Through Music34:32 Navigating Social Media as an Artist44:20 The Importance of Mentorship47:12 Final Thoughts and Takeaways48:03 Recap

https://youtu.be/mLpOHoMl9KwIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the inspirational journey of Rose Calkins, a singer-songwriter, published author, and artist, whose life is a testament to resilience, creativity, and faith. Rose shares how she balanced practical responsibilities with her artistic passions, drawing from early influences like theater and family music traditions. The conversation delves into pivotal moments, such as joining a songwriting class during the uncertain times of 2020, which reignited her musical dreams. With insights on overcoming fear, embracing community, and managing a multi-faceted creative career, Rose’s story is a motivating guide for indie artists. The episode also includes a discussion on the importance of having a clear online presence for promoting music and concludes with Rose's heartfelt song, 'Pictures in Motion.'Follow Rose:Instagram: @rosecalkinsmusicWebsite: skybueliving.comPublications Mentioned:Eternal Goodness by Justina Hodgson, Rosemary Calkins, and Natalie Totire BrinleyAffirmusic by Dan LaureanoPossibilities: Writings from the DuPage Writers GroupFeatured Song:“Pictures in Motion” by Rose Calkins, written by Rose Calkins and Dan LaureanoStream or Buy “Pictures in Motion” wherever you get your music, or visit https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/rosecalkins/pictures-in-motion00:00 Second Verse Interview with Rose Calkins00:34 Welcome and Introduction01:54 Early Musical Influences03:45 Theater and Family Life04:50 Passing the Musical Torch06:12 Our Sponsor: Attitude Creativity07:35 Personal Musical Evolution09:51 Discovering Songwriting11:59 Pursuing Music During the Pandemic13:33 Collaborations and New Beginnings19:49 Writing and Publishing22:43 The Richness of Life Experience in Art25:02 The Journey of Independent Artists31:02 The Importance of a Home Base for Artists33:24 Balancing Art and Business37:27 Influences and Inspirations40:26 Encouragement for Aspiring Indie Musicians42:02 Where to Find Rose Calkins Online44:09 Recap46:18 "Pictures in Motion" by Rose Calkins

In this episode of Second Verse, Becky interviews Rick Molloy, a tech veteran turned full-time musician. Rick shares his inspiring journey of leaving a two-decade-long career in tech to pursue his passion for music. He discusses his transition, challenges, and the triumphs of creating a career in the arts. The conversation dives into Rick's experiences in both industries, his custom guitar business, the importance of community, and the transformative power of music and collaboration. Listeners will be motivated by Rick's story of resilience, community-building, and doing what they love.https://youtu.be/AVowKYaPprUFollow Rick:Instagram @rick_molloyYouTube https://www.youtube.com/rickmolloyTikTok @rickmolloymusicWeb https://www.celestialinstruments.comFeatured Song:“Washed Away” by Becky Boyland is written by Becky Boyland and Rick Molloy. Used with permission.Stream or Buy “Washed Away” wherever you get your music, or visit https://hypeddit.com/beckyboyland/washedawayTimestamps:00:00 Teaser Clip00:21 Podcast Introduction01:10 Guest Introduction: Rick Molloy02:03 Rick's Journey from Tech to Music03:29 Challenges and Realities of Pursuing Music06:35 The Importance of Community07:45 Balancing Art and Business11:55 Encouragement for Aspiring Musicians20:19 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity21:42 Back to the Interview26:12 Guitar Craftsmanship and Experimentation34:31 Emotional Connection in Music37:20 The Power of Collaboration43:31 From Open Mics to Paid Gigs48:29 Advice for Aspiring Musicians52:01 Final Thoughts and Artist Tips57:54 "Washed Away" by Becky Boyland, written by Rick Molloy and Becky Boyland

https://youtu.be/b3dwP_DtstESecond Chances: Embracing Your Musical DreamsIn this introductory episode of 'Second Verse,' host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter with extensive experience in marketing and brand messaging, invites listeners to rekindle their musical aspirations. Becky talks about the journey from treating music as a hobby to making it a significant part of life. She shares stories of other indie musicians who have made similar transitions from traditional careers to follow their passion for music. Additionally, Becky offers tips and insights to help artists grow their audience and achieve their dreams. The episode concludes with an inspiring new song, 'One More Word,' to encourage listeners to take the next step toward their musical goals.00:00 Introduction: Following Your Dream00:39 Meet Your Host: Becky Boyland01:00 Weekly Stories and Tips01:25 Upcoming Episodes Preview01:46 Real Talk: Challenges and Tools02:07 Encouragement and Connection02:22 Subscribe and Connect02:58 Musical Inspiration: "One More Word"Featured Song:“One More Word” by Becky Boyland is written by Becky Boyland. Used with permission."One More Word" will be available wherever you stream your music on March 14, 2025. Check it out at the song's share page.