PODCAST · society
sibs
by thesibspod
season three rollin'We make you think differently about things.
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#075 On Cultural Fitness
Welcome to the Season 3 finale of sibs. We're all starting to feel the negative side effects of modern culture – but what can we do about it? The sibs introduce cultural fitness: a discipline for staying focused, regulated, and constructive when everything around you is designed to pull you away from center. Catch you for season 4 this Spring.
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#074 90s Kids
Full throwback. The sibs riff on childhood favorites, early obsessions, and the memories that somehow still live in our bodies—Pokémon cards, snow days, junk food, and all. Listen in for a taste of childhood.
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#073 Josh is Turning Thirty
As Josh approaches 30, he comes to the table looking for some older sib perspective. Together, they unpack the value of reflection, and if we can ever really arrive at total clarity. The conversation lands on a quieter idea of progress: realizing your potential, not chasing fixed outcomes.
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#072 What The Wellness
Wellness isn't working. In this episode, we revisit the wellness industry with a bit of distance and again ask the question: why do so many people still feel anxious, disconnected, and unwell? We talk about the limits of wellness as a consumer model and explore what it looks like to shift from chasing “wellness” to grounding ourselves in wholeness instead.
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#071 New Year Cheer
A chill New Year’s riff on what the past year held and what we’re leaving behind. We talk big moments, quiet shifts, and words for the year ahead.
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#070 sibs x Amy Shenk
In this episode, we sit down with therapist and coach Amy Shenk to talk about existential crises—what they are, why they show up, and how to get the most out of them. The conversation covers the importance of building capacity, garnering presence, and the practice of living with uncertainty instead of trying to solve it away.
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#069 Out of Curiosity
In this episode, Josh and Dev examine curiosity as a practical way of engaging with life. The conversation moves through identity, insecurity, relationships, creativity, and what it means to stay open. Along the way, they ask wide-ranging, probing questions to rep curiosity in practice.
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#068 sibs x Jess Dugan
This week, we sit down with Jess — a holistic practitioner and psychotherapist whose work blends Western psychology, Eastern philosophy, and cross-cultural shamanic traditions.Jess breaks down the basics of plant medicine & healing while offering a grounded view of why these practices are becoming more common.She also names the pressures and pitfalls of commercialization, and shares a simple practice she believes can be just as transformative as plant medicine itself. A conversation about healing, wholeness, and what it means to do this work from someone who lives it every day.
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#067 No Siblings Grow Up in the Same Family
This week, the sibs go deep on a deceptively simple idea from Gabor Maté: no siblings grow up in the same family.We unpack what that actually means — how birth order, timing, parent circumstances, and even world events shape each of us differently, even under the same roof.We get into the myths and realities behind sibling roles – and where they fall apart – closing with a surprising take on siblinghood, identity, and what it means to stay connected as adults.
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#066 sibs x Bri DiPhilippo
This week, the sibs sit down with longtime friend and strength coach Bri, co-founder of Momentum CDM and the force behind the BriFit training app. We get into the power of consistency, fitness non-negotiables, and navigating social media's fitness culture. Bri shares her coaching philosophy — rooted in purpose, honesty, kindness — and walks us through a day in the life of someone who wakes up at 4:30am to serve others while fiercely protecting her own rituals.
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#065 The Boys are Back
Dev’s traveling, which means it's high time for another Barrow boys takeover. Jay and Josh kick off the holiday season with a marathon of drafts. From top holidays and elite Halloween candy to Thanksgiving power dishes, winter wardrobes, and even fictional holiday party guest lists, the boys go round for round –with ChatGPT crowning the winner. Consider this your early invitation to the holiday spirit, courtesy of the unnecessarily competitive Barrow brothers.
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#064 sibs x Yashoda Devi Ma
Spiritual teacher Yashoda Devi Ma joins the sibs for a conversation that goes deep into what it really means to live with awareness, authenticity, and inner alignment.Together, we explore how to move beyond fear and scarcity, discover who we are, and create what she calls full-value living – a life rooted in presence and purpose.It’s a soulful conversation with our OG meditation teacher about consciousness, feeling, and what it means to build a life that’s truly alive.
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#063 Never Enough Stuff
We're drowning in stuff – closets full, garages packed, storage units overflowing. But how did we get here? And what does it say about us?In this episode, the sibs get real about our obsession with things – from the psychology behind consumer culture to the emotional weight of clutter. They unpack why buying feels so good (for a sec) and how identity gets tangled up in what we own.
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#062 sibs x Jane Pinto
Spiritual entrepreneur Jane Pinto joins the sibs to explore her compelling vision for a new kind of system – rooted in unconditional love, forgiveness, and equality. From decades in entrepreneurship to her current work creating “systems of nurture,” Jane shares what it means to lead from the heart, build with intention, and have the courage to bring forward what the world actually needs.
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#061 sibs freestyle: Traits, Thrifting, and Hills We’d Die On
The sibs are back and riffin'. In this episode, we look at the tells and habits that quietly define us, the grind of thrifting, and a few hills we’d die on.Light on structure, honest in tone, welcome to another sibs freestyle.
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#060 sibs x Caitlin Barrow
In this episode, we sit down with Cait—elementary teacher, coach, all-around classroom wizard, and sib-in-law—to talk about what great teaching actually looks like. From making 1,500 decisions a day to her own personal teaching philosophy, Cait breaks down how to set a high bar and still make room for every kid. We get into the daily grind, why belief and efficacy move the needle more than almost anything, and take a quick nostalgia tour: recess hierarchies, movie day, and the fall of the Smart Board. Join for a true behind-the-scenes look at the people shaping the next generation.
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#059 Heart of a Vet
What happens to our dreams once we’re adults? As kids, everyone cheers us on. As adults, the same pursuit can feel threatening, “unrealistic,” or hard to relate to. We trace childhood ambitions into real life – unpacking the difference between ego fantasy and a true north, validation traps, and real signals that you're on the right path. We get honest about why dreamers can be uncomfortable to be around—unpredictable, failure-prone—and what support actually looks like. The takeaway: every human dreams. And it's on all of us to keep those dreams alive & supported.
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#058 sibs x River Wharton
We sit down with River—artist, community builder, and instigator—to talk about what it really means to live like an artist. We unpack the comparison trap, the difference between reacting and responding, and how practice and discipline keep the channel open. Then we play “Make It Creative,” turning walking, grocery runs, commutes, and even waiting in line into creative play. The takeaway: everyone’s creative—living an artist’s life is simply choosing to engage the world that way.
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#057 sibs go rogue
The sibs ditch the outline and let it fly. From the challenge of saying no, to the bittersweetness of “last times,” this episode wanders in all directions. Along the way: cult talk, who would play us in the movie, and the skills we’d instantly download if we could. Loose, curious, and a little rogue.
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#056 sibs x Zach Rehder
Breathwork teacher and healer Zach Rehder joins us to explore how the breath can transform the way we experience life. We talk about how tension holds stress in place, why presence can feel both uncomfortable and liberating, and what it means to trust the intelligence of the breath itself. From simple daily practices to profound insights, this conversation offers guidance and inspiration for anyone curious about reconnecting with themselves through breathwork.
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#055 Children of Divorce
What does growing up as a child of divorce actually shape in you? In this episode, we explore how divorce impacts identity, relationships, and the way we think about commitment. We unpack the stigma around the label “child of divorce,” the logistics, and how navigating multiple households can build emotional maturity and adaptability. We also dive into how these early experiences influence our attitudes toward marriage — from questioning tradition to redefining what partnership looks like. Whether you grew up in a split household or not, this conversation offers fresh perspective on how our upbringings shape the way we love and relate.
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#054 sibs x The Fourth Sib
We've anticipated this day for so long... In this episode, we finally reveal the fourth sib. In a special guest episode, we interview Luke—the youngest Barrow. Not only does he bring a fun edge to the sibling dynamic, he lets us dig into the mind of a Gen Z-er. Gen Z always gets picked on: an antisocial generation that grew up with a screen in their hands. But what's it actually like to live in this world, through their eyes? Exploring key topics like social media, AI, mental health, and beyond—this episode is a unique opportunity to listen to those who will inevitably inherit the future one day.
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#053 Theseus's Ship: The Body
In this episode, we explore what it's like to live in these human bodies. As they say, we aren't humans having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience. And the body is square one. Sifting through the philosophies that resonate most, we contemplate ways to cultivate a healthier relationship with our physical vessel. Beyond eating healthily and working out, what does the body even need? And how can we meet it with more compassion? Sharing our favorite practices for taking care of the temple—this episode is as practical as it is inspiring.
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#052 sibs x Alyssa Manny
There's the yoga that we've all heard of—rolling out your yoga mat and making some shapes. And then there's Yoga—a more holistic understanding that includes postures, but is more accurately a comprehensive science of life. In this episode, we welcome our first guest, Alyssa Manny—a studio owner in Denver, a teacher, and a forever student of life. We expand our understanding of what yoga is and why it's so transformative. We level with common misunderstandings of yoga, and ask what yoga has to offer the modern world, whether you're a "yoga person" or not. Press play to change your POV on yoga.
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#051 Season 3 LFG
The sibs are back on the mic and fired up for season three. In this episode, we share what we've been up to during our respite and insights that have come forward since our last season. Most importantly, we get into what we're really excited about: having guests on the podcast. We're welcoming fresh voices onto the podcast, getting to know some deep thinkers while approaching relatable topics through a contemplative lens. Our mission, as always, is helping people (including ourselves) understand the role they play in a chaotic world. It's easy to feel lost, but we're each a necessary part of the solution. This season, every episode will get us closer to understanding why that is.
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#050 Fifty So Nifty
Welcome to the 50th episode of the sibs podcast! As we reach this milestone, we reflect on what it means to be creators in this world—the passion, the pressure of comparison, and the dire need for consistency. We're told to dream big when we're little—but following your dreams as an adult tends to be discouraged. In this conversation, we get honest about creatorhood and what it takes to see things through. After touching on our favorite insights of season two—we drop some exciting news about what's to come for season three. We're only just getting started.
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#049 In a Rut?
In this episode, the sibs take on the classic "rut" as Devon shares a recurring theme that has her thoughts circling. From time to time, we all get in places like this—but what sets it off? And more importantly, how do we get out of it? With emphasis on taking aligned action and making decisions based on your own "personal mission statement," Jay and Josh successfully help Devon move through her tough spot. It's not realistic for us to be inspired and ecstatic every day—there will be good, bad, and in-between days. How do we trust that we're still making progress, even when the rut is real? Press play.
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#048 Creating Community
The importance and understanding of community have ebbed and flowed over time. But in a post-COVID world, there's no going back from community as a key aspect of our well-being. In this episode, we discuss the evolution of community as a social value. We define the planes of community, assess the differences between IRL and URL gatherings, and share how we each partake. With special tips on how to build community and how to find it if it's missing, this episode might leave you inspired: If you're looking for a community that's not there, maybe you're supposed to create it.
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#047 Sibling Games
Happy National Sibling Day! To us, this is a real holiday. So, in this episode, we share why siblinghood can be one of life's greatest gifts. After looking at the defining traits of our particular sibling squad, we celebrate the best way we know how: games. We phone our mom and dad and make them choose sibling stereotypes that each of us fits best. We design a game around childhood games. Last but not least, we answer questions from our loyal fans. Enjoy the episode and call your sibling!
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#046 Genius Series: Rick Rubin
In the first episode of our new "Genius Series," we share a celebrated individual who has greatly impacted each of our lives: Rick Rubin. Legendary producer, creator, writer—Rick Rubin has blazed his own trail through the music industry, leaving in his wake a new paradigm for all things creative. In this conversation, we take a deep dive into his most compelling philosophies—and how they've changed us. In the unique way that he celebrates and encourages the artist that lives within each and every one of us—Rick Rubin is to us a modern genius. Press play, and you might agree.
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#045 Born to Lead
Everyone is called to be a leader in their own way. In this episode, we contemplate the importance of leadership. What's behind our need for leaders? What qualities make the best leaders? We share our own perspectives on the topic, with the intention of embodying the traits we respect the most. In true sibs fashion, we make a game of identifying some of the most influential modern leaders. (Press play to see who we nominate as Leader of the Free World.)
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#044 Staying Power
The ability to withstand discomfort is one of life's most important skills. We refer to that as staying power. In this episode, we get into "what is staying power" and why it's more than simply forcing our way into progress. Staying power is about resilience, capacity, and ultimately—trust. While sharing their relationships with staying power, Devon and Jay discuss the common obstacles that can get in the way. How do you cultivate more of it? And what happens to your big dreams when you do?
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#043 Future Feels
In this episode, Devon and Josh bring Jay their most ominous questions about what the future holds. From nuclear warfare to resource scarcity and political trends, Jay outlines the fundamentals of the polycrisis. In a time characterized by chaos and overwhelm, we unpack these issues with more awareness and an emphasis on neutrality. We're used to these being triggering topics, but in this discussion the triggers become invitations for inner and outer exploration.
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#042 Creation, Maintenance, Destruction
How do we become the drivers of change in our life, instead of the victims of it? In this conversation, we explore the three laws of nature from the Vedic perspective (an ideology close to our hearts). These three laws are creation, maintenance, and destruction. Not only are these forces at play in the natural world, they also govern our own stories as well. We dive into each aspect through personal experience, while also looking at the cycle as a whole. By giving us a greater perspective for life's inevitable ups and downs, it is clear these dynamics are the key to living with more maturity and wisdom. Press play to see what you can unlock.
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#041 Control Small, Surrender Big
We've all been there—we want our lives to unfold a certain way, and we think that squeezing harder is going to get us there. It never works. In this episode, we contemplate the illusion of control. Where does the need to control come from? We talk about the psychological and spiritual aspects. But more importantly, who are we in the absence of control? The most defining aspects of our life may be out of our hands, but we still have agency. Even better—we have trust and surrender. How do we get better at letting go?
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#040 The Josh Episode
The youngest, the athlete, the L.A. loving savant of content, the one and only—Scooter. Welcome to the Josh episode. In this conversation, you get to know Josh as we get to the bottom of his very curious, comical, and competitive personality. We challenge him to create a TV series on the spot. We drill him with Would-You-Rathers. We get his thoughts on alien invasions. A fascinating person yields a fascinating episode—so buckle up and get ready for the full tour of Josh-land.
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#039 In Our Feels
Another two-for episode of the sibs podcast. While Jay hangs out with his newborn daughter, Devon and Josh take on one of their favorite topics: emotions. Feelings give the human experience depth; they make life feel three-dimensional. So then why do we repress emotions? Why do we spiral? Sharing a glimpse of their own journeys, Devon and Josh discuss the importance of emotional health and maturity. Celebrating our favorite emotions and in reverence of the tough ones, this conversation will get you into your feels.
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#038 The Boys
Devon is in India, so in this episode, you get a special sesh with the Barrow boys. Jay and Josh share a glimpse into their brotherhood and the roles that competition and consistent support play in their relationship. From there, they invite you into one of their favorite pastimes: "drafts." In this riveting game, the boys determine their "top picks" across a range of categories, like childhood games and inventions. ChatGPT declares the winner. The third leg of the stool may be out of the country, but the podcast is still a vibe.
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#037 Screen Fiends
Whether we like it or not screens have fully integrated into the modern human experience. But we still haven't figured out how to exist alongside screens in health and awareness. What are the real issues with screen time, and what are the compromises? From the costs of addiction to the importance of boredom—we won't see our screen time numbers go down until we start getting real about it. And don't worry, we're right there with you.
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#036 No Such Thing As Perfect
Most of us relate to perfectionism – but what is perfect? In this episode, we look at perfectionism in all of its variations. We look at how it functions individually and socially. And is perfectionism all bad? Inspiring us to meet the best version of ourselves, we contemplate the value of high standards. There may be no such thing as perfect, but is it worth the try?
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#035 Getting Real About Acts of Violence
In this episode, we host a vulnerable conversation about acts of violence in response to the New Year's Eve terrorist attack. What does it mean to "process" these events, especially in a world where they're becoming all too frequent? What are the tools we have to make sense of tragedy, and how can we respond in the most progressive way possible? We explore the spectrum of reacting with a doom and gloom attitude to not engaging at all as we arrive at the importance of simply "being real."
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#034 Kids: Yay or Nay
The conversation surrounding having a kid (or not) has never been so nuanced. Collectively, we're moving beyond traditional scripts of parenthood and embracing the ability to make a more conscious decision. In this episode, we take a closer look at the factors shaping the new dialogue—from climate to finances to lifestyle choices. As Jay says, it's not about whether or not you choose to have kids. It's about choosing to become a parent. Press play to learn the difference.
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#033 That New New
With a new year on deck, resolutions are on the hearts and minds of the collective (in one way or another). In this episode we seek to understand how resolutions came to hold such status, and whether or not they're worthy. At the end of the day, resolutions are about changing your life—but what does that truly take? Discussing the power of individual choices and moments, we arrive at our take on the "new resolution" — just in time for 2025.
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#032 AI Oh My
It feels like we blinked and suddenly all the everyday people are using ChatGPT. In this episode, we celebrate AI and the way it has enhanced our lives and search inquiries. But with such convenience comes the need to proceed mindfully. We look at the implications of everyday-AI through lenses that we care about most: climate change, psychology, and art. How can we use this new tool mindfully—with a dual appreciation for innovation and humanity?
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#031 Catch Ya Later 2024
With 2024 just about in the rearview, we take some time to look back at the favorites, the highs, and the lows. We award our favorite content—from series to musical artists—and identify the brands, celebs, and trends that won our hearts. We share the personal obsessions that defined 2024, and maybe you can relate. We know, for a lot of reasons, this year wasn't exactly a cakewalk. But nothing is ever all bad. Press play and let's say sayonara 2024, hola 2025.
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#030 More Than Consumers
With the holidays upon us, the sibs take a look at the system of consumerism. Exploring avenues like the waste crisis and the trickery of marketing, we discuss what it means to be a consumer and to what degree participation the system is inevitable. What does it mean to navigate consumption with more awareness? How can we outplay corporations and their games? Dive into a more conscious conversation on consumerism, in perfect timing.
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#029 Sibs vs. Insecurity
In this episode, Jay brings a personal obstacle to the table for Josh and Devon to unpack. Welcome to a real "sibs treatment," as we contemplate the experience of insecurity. We all know the discomfort of this emotion, but what happens when we learn to welcome it in instead of pushing it away? We discuss how, instead of perceiving insecurity as a weakness, it often is a sign of growth. Exploring the nature of our mind and how to find strength in our most vulnerable moments—get inspired sibs-style.
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#028 My Therapist Says
The way we think about therapy has changed. In this conversation, we explore why. Therapy is no longer seen as a sign of weakness but a totally normal aspect of a healthy life. Even further, therapy has become a new form of social capital, and we discuss the pros and cons. How do we best wield the tool of therapy in our lives? The reality is we were never meant to walk this path alone. Celebrating our therapists and unpacking our feelings—this one goes out to everyone who has been in or considered therapy.
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#027 The Election Experience
Fresh off the election, we host a conversation about what it means to navigate such hot-button times. We're not here to talk about the outcome of the election. We're here to talk about the experience of the election and the broader spectacle of American politics. What role is "the politician" meant to play in our lives? To what degree should political outcomes have influence over our individual well-being? In times when separation and emotions are running high, we come back to the importance of connection and unity. What is the best-case scenario for an individual to engage with politics?
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#026 And We're Back
Welcome to season two of the one and only sibs podcast. During our recess, we had a bit of revelation. What kind of podcast do we *really* want to be? There's no shortage of experts and solutions out there, but what's missing is the space to integrate and process all of the noise. Our podcast puts a value on contemplation in a world that really loves to be told what to do. Through the lens of different themes, we're here to encourage growth and exploration at the level of the individual. Because if you really want to change the world, you have to start with changing yourself.
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