Speaking of Inclusion...

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Speaking of Inclusion...

"Speaking of Inclusion..." explores the role of inclusion within society, workplaces and beyond. Listen along to thought-provoking conversations with special guests from a range of industries, delving into topics such as gender identity, anti-racism, inclusive recruitment, and of course… the role of allies. You can expect insightful discussions, practical advice, and inspiring stories that will take you from being simply being curious to confidently navigating conversations about diversity and equality. Hosted by Katie Allen, Inclusion Coach and TEDx speaker, and creator of Allyship In Action.

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    Mental Wellness meets Crime Thriller - with Mary Desch

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion..., I am joined by Mary Desch, a former psychiatrist from Portland, Oregon, who has made the leap from addiction medicine to writing psychological crime thrillers. Mary and I discuss her first novel, Tangled Darkness, and how her background in psychiatry and addiction work informs her storytelling and character development.Throughout our conversation, Mary shares a grounded look at the realities of mental wellness, addiction, and recovery. The episode offers insight into how mental health struggles show up in everyday life, the critical role of community and support, and why understanding the complexities of addiction (forboth those directly affected and those around them) matters.We talk through the messy, very human sides of change, shame, coping, and what it actually takes to move from struggle toward real peace of mind. We also cover why education and open conversations about mental health are as important as teaching physical health or spirituality, and how those in the workplace (and beyond) can make a difference by listening and engaging with care.3 key takeaways:Lasting recovery from addiction is not just about stopping, it’s about staying stopped, with support, and learning to live with peace of mind.Open, non-judgemental education about mental health and addiction is missing from most early life experiences, but it is vital for adults and young people alike.Community, whether through mutual support groups, friends, family, or even creative circles, can make a profound difference for those facing tough times.A question for listeners to reflect on:How can you show up with empathy and openness for someone whose experience or struggles you might not fully understand?You can find about Mary and her amazing writing from her website www.MaryDesch.com.Things we said we'd include in this episode's show notes:You can find additional interviews with Mary by searching for “Mary Desch author interviews” onlineTangled Darkness is available to buy in all good book outlets NOW, and the sequel, If I Go Quiet, plus the upcoming novella, Lethal Loyalty, and forthcoming novel, Play Me Once will be available very soon – keep an eye on Mary’s website!If you enjoy the podcast, you can help keep it funded by buying me a virtual coffee at www.coff.ee/speakingofinclusion. Every contribution helps the show keep going!Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen.Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.⁠www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Practical Nutrition - with Sammy Williams

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Sammy Williams, a qualified nutritionist and intuitive eating coach. Together, we explore what it really means to take a practical and sustainable approach to your health andwellbeing, especially when tempted by the ongoing craze for quick fixes and fad diets. Sammy shares her journey from competitive sport and science teaching to holistic nutrition, weaving in the science, psychology, and even the spirituality that underpins lasting behaviour change.Through our conversation, you’ll hear:1.     Sustainability over Quick Fixes: We unpack why those popular weight loss injections and silver bullet solutions rarely deliver long-term benefits and how health is really about habits, not hacks.2.     Structural Barriers to Health: Sammy highlights how access to good nutrition is too often seen as a privilege, not a right, and why lower-income groups are disproportionately affected by metabolic diseases and exclusion from wellbeing.3.     Small, Compassionate Changes Work Best: Hear practical tips for breaking out of autopilot routines and shifting towards more energising, nourishing habits, withoutattempting to overhaul your entire life all at once.As you listen, I invite you to reflect on this question: What’s the one small thing you could do differently this week to support your energy and wellbeing—without falling into the trap of all-or-nothing thinking? If you’ve found value in this conversation and want to help keep Speaking of Inclusion ad-free, why not buy Katie a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion? Your support helps keep the podcast funded and accessible to all. Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Being Safe People - with Cath Blayney

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Cath Blayney, a liberation coach for black and brown leaders and an allyship coach for white coaches, consultants, and healers.Cath and I first met when she approached me on LinkedIn about my own behaviour and language... a story you can hear more about in this episode! Together, we explore what it really means to be a "safe person" rather than just creating so-called safe spaces. Our conversation weaves through stories of vulnerability, identity, race, and the everyday realities of allyship… both its challenges and its power.Cath generously shares her journey, from working with head teachers in education to supporting anti-racism in organisations, and how her own mixed heritage informsher work. We discuss how organisations and individuals can move beyond platitudes and box-ticking exercises, towards honest self-reflection and genuine behavioural change. We also talk through our own learning moments, including times when mistakes have been made in the name of inclusion, and what it takes to lean into the discomfort thatbrings.Here are three key takeaways from this episode:1.    Safe spaces are only as meaningful as the people within them. It’s about cultivating safe people equipped with the self-awareness and capacity to handle discomfort and challenge, not just sticking a label on a meeting or group2.    Emotions like shame, guilt, and defensiveness are not negative in themselves, they’re valuable data to be processed, not blockers to growth3.    There is no “completion” in personal or organisational anti-racism work. Instead, it’s a continual process of reflecting, regulating, and learning from mistakes, especially when those lessons are uncomfortableAs you listen to today’s episode, consider this question:How do you respond (physically and emotionally) when someone challenges your perspective on inclusion or calls attention to mistakes you might have made?Cath can be contacted in the following ways:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/inclusiveleadershipcoaching/Website: www.InclusiveLeadershipCoaching.co.ukIf you’d like to support the podcast and help keep these honest conversations going, you can buy me a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Inclusion as a Competitive Edge - with Hacia Atherton

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by HaciaAtherton, author of "Billion Dollar Blind Spot", principal consultant at All Star Consulting, and founder of Empowered Women in Trades. Hacia brings her lived experience as a woman in a fifth-generation family plumbing business, a leader with ADHD and dyslexia, and the resilience forged through surviving a near-fatal horse-riding accident.Our conversation covers everything from the realities of family business dynamics and the importance of psychological safety at work, to how positive psychology and individual belonging can transform not just performance, but wellbeing and leadership. We talk about how honest self-reflection, adaptive tools, andunapologetic role modelling can open doors for true inclusion, and why Hacia believes that shifting from "safe spaces" to "brave spaces" is fundamental for lasting change.3 Key Takeaways from our chat:Role modelling inclusive and neurodivergent-friendly practices creates visible, actionable change: leaders who openly adapt for their own needs empower others to do the same.Psychological success matters as much as outward business performance: wellbeing should be measured holistically, not in silos.Creating brave spaces, rather than purely safe spaces, enables constructive challenge and authentic growth: it’s about respecting discomfort and co-creating culture.As you listen, consider: What does “brave space” mean for you, and how might you foster it in your own work environment?Hacia can be connected with in the following ways:Her book Billion Dollar Blindspot can be found here: https://www.haciaatherton.com/billion-dollar-blindspot Websites:www.haciaatherton.com www.allstarconsultinginc.com Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/haciaatherton.mapp/LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/haciaatherton/Instagram:@hacia.atherton  If you enjoyed today’s episode and want to help keep Speaking of Inclusion funded, buy Katie a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion. Your support keeps this podcast running and the conversations flowing.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is aspecialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama"by Alder

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    Islamophobia - with Halyma Begum

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion, Katie Allen sits down with Halyma Begum, an Equality, Diversity & Inclusion (EDI) specialist and wellbeing lead, for an honest conversation about Islamophobia, everyday barriers, and what it means to be visibly Muslim in the UK right now. The conversation opens up with real-life stories about microaggressions, racism in public spaces, and the challenges of being both a woman and Muslim in a world where bias often goes unchecked.Halyma shares her journey from the contact centre floor to leading on EDI in major organisations, reflecting on moments of realisation, solidarity, and the importance of community. She discusses how her Islamic faith shapes her work, the practical aspects of inclusion in schools and workplaces, and the impact of recent anti-Muslim sentiment on daily life.Ramadan, its meaning, and misconceptions about the Islamic faith are part of the discussion, as are the small steps allies can take to support Muslim colleagues and neighbours. Halyma’s stories are practical, sometimes painful, and always rooted in hope and the urge for justice.Key takeaways:Inclusion is not just policy but interaction: The small everyday actions in schools, workplaces, and communities can profoundly affect how Muslim colleagues and neighbours feel seen and supported.Islamophobia is on the rise, and it’s not always loud or obvious: It can show up as unchecked comments, assumptions, or simply silence from those who witness discrimination but don’t intervene.Acts of solidarity matter: From learning greetings like “Ramadan Mubarak” to being curious about different experiences, these gestures help build connections and safer spaces.Question to reflect on:Where in your day-to-day life might you have missed an opportunity to challenge prejudice or show support for someone from a different background?If you enjoy the podcast, you can help keep it funded by buying me a virtual coffee at www.coff.ee/speakingofinclusion. Every contribution helps the show keep going!Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen.Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.⁠ www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Sleep is a Skill - with Beatrix Schmidt

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Beatrix Schmidt, a sleep coach for adults, professional speaker and author of Sleep Skills for Life. Together, we unravel the myths and realities behind what it means to truly sleep well and explore why so many of us struggle with getting the rest we need.Beatrix shares her own journey with insomnia, addressing why generic tips often fall short, and bringing a refreshing perspective: sleep isn’t a matter of luck, but a set of practical, learnable skills. We discuss how personality traits, neurodiversity, and lifestyle impact sleep, and why the art of relaxation, physically, emotionally, and mentally, is at the heart of successful sleep transitions.Throughout the conversation, Beatrix offers advice on recognising when your sleep is actually a problem (versus just an occasional tough night), reframing sleep difficulties as puzzles to be solved rather than signs of being broken, and the importance of self-awareness and curiosity in building sustainable sleep habits. We also touch on the pitfalls of quick fixes, why tracking your sleep doesn’t always lead to meaningful change, and how to future-proof your sleep skills for every stage of life.Here are three key takeaways from today’s episode:Sleep is a skill, not an accident – and it can be shaped to suit your needs, personality and stage of life by working with who you are, not against yourself.Generic solutions often miss the mark; what works for one person (think: baths, meditation, journaling) may not work for another, and recognising your own patterns is the first important step.You are not broken if you struggle with sleep. The real progress starts by identifying your individual sleep puzzle and seeking support before years of trial and error entrench the problem.A question to reflect on as you listen:How well do you really understand your own sleep patterns? And are you actively working with, rather than against, your personality and daily behaviours to improve them?Beatrix can be connected with via her website, www.BeatrixASchmit.com where you will also find all her free resources - including her free consultation for those who are really struggling!you can also buy her book Sleep Skills for Life here: https://www.beatrixaschmidt.com/bookpurchaseIf today’s episode resonated with you, help support the show by buying me a virtual coffee at www.BuyMeACoffee.com. Just head to coff.ee/speakingofinclusion and help keep the podcast funded.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Migration Without Shame - with Kamil Hejmanowski

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Kamil Hejmanowski, a world champion kickboxer, karate sensei, and now life coach supporting migrants who experience shame in the UK. Kamil generously shares his journey from growing up in Poland to navigating teenage years as a new migrant in theUK, grappling with a sense of not belonging, shame, and the search for self-worth.Throughout our conversation, Kamil shares how his earliest experiences shaped his understanding of self, community, and cultural differences. We discuss the complex realities of migration. How they reverberate through identity, family dynamics, and working life. Kamil provides invaluable insight into the hidden challenges many migrants face, including cultural expectations, emotional barriers, and the sometimesinvisible burden of having to prove oneself.Key takeaways from this episode:Migration is a deeply personal experience, shaped by culture, upbringing, and often invisible emotional struggles such as shame and a need to prove one's worth.Our personal histories influence the way we work, relate to others, and respond to challenges, highlighting the need for greater empathy and understanding in our workplaces and communities.Real change, whether in individuals or institutions, requires us to look beneath the surface and address the root causes of behaviour, rather than simply treating the symptoms.As you listen, I invite you to reflect on this question:How might you better recognise and support those whose life stories and cultural backgrounds differ from your own? Things we said we'd include in this episode's show notes:Link to Kamil’s website - www.kamilhejmanowski.com,where you will also find his TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook accounts (both Polish and English language)A reminder that Kamil’s website is available in both Polish and English, with a button to swap languagesIf you found value in today's conversation and want to help keep the podcast going, you can buy me a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion – every cuppa helps to fund the show.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Society, Size, & Judgement – with Shannon Malone-deBenedictis

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion, Katie Allen talks with two-time Emmy award-winning filmmaker Shannon Malone-deBenedictis.Shannon brings her experience in documentary storytelling, a career with giants like Discovery, Netflix, and NationalGeographic, and her insights as founder of Padlin Creative. Most of all, she opens up about her work helping women question how they see themselves, step into full confidence, and challenge the ways society judges people on size andappearance.Katie and Shannon explore the fact that conversations around weight and size are still taboo or overlooked, especiallyfor women, at work and in public life. They unpack the double standards around body image, how those standards especially impact heavier women, and why these biases stick around. Shannon shares personal stories from her career, including the moment she decided to stop apologising for who she is and what she looks like, and what it meant to finally show up truly unapologetic in professional spaces.Listeners can expect a frank conversation about fat shaming, internalised self-judgment, the link between societal biasand workplace exclusion, and the everyday struggle of taking up space confidently. You’ll hear how these issues show up in everything from office emails to award ceremonies, and ways to rethink your own attitudes towards body image and worth. Shannon also shares practical advice from her mentoringworkshops and touches on the surprising role of menopausal women in nature.Key takeaways:The constant pressure to "make yourself small" affects how women show up, participate, and are seen, especially those who don’t fit into normative beauty ideals.Societal standards around weight are rooted in bias, not science or merit, and they result in real exclusion at work and beyond.Confidence isn’t about meeting someone else's standard. Redirecting energy away from apologising or hiding makes space for actually enjoying life and succeeding on your own terms.A question to reflect on:How often do you judge someone's abilities or worth based on their appearance or size, and what assumptions might you need to challenge in yourself?Things we said we'd include in this episode's show notes:Book recommendation: "Likeable Badass" by Alison FragaleShannon's website: Padlin Creative (padlincreative.com)Padlin Creative free consultation and portfolio (available at padlincreative.com)Join the Fully Unapologetic Facebook groupIf you enjoy the podcast, you can help keep it funded by buying me a virtual coffee at www.coff.ee/speakingofinclusion. Every contribution helps the show keep going!Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.⁠www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Failure & Redemption - with Ryan Root

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Ryan Root, co-founder of Hormones for Me, Wellness and Longevity, and host of the Dope Martian podcast. Ryan brings a truly honest, raw, and genuinely unique perspective, not just on hormone replacement therapies, but also on purpose, mistakes, and ultimately redemption.This conversation hears Ryan take us through his personal struggle with low testosterone, the controversial route he took into the hormone therapy business, to his experiences with the criminal justice system and, ultimately, building a successful and legal business helping thousands of people improve their health. We discuss the profound stigma and misinformation surrounding hormones, the entrepreneurial energy it takes to create real change, and the ways leaders at every level can learn from their own failures, owning both the messy andremarkable parts of their stories. Three key takeaways from today’s episode:The dangers of misinformation and stigma around hormone therapy, and why so many people are failed by the current medical system when seeking support for hormone-related issues.How mistakes and failures, when properly owned and reflected on, can become catalysts for growth, purpose, and positive impact. The importance of curiosity and questioning accepted wisdom, both in our health journeys and in broader societal systems, including how we feel about people who have served time in prison.A question for you to reflect on as you listen: How might your own judgements or assumptions, about health, leadership, or even the law, be holding you back from seeing a bigger or more compassionate picture?Ryan Roots is a biochemist, entrepreneur, and host of The Dope Martian Podcast, whose journey from underground TRTnetworks to co-founding H4M Wellness is a powerful story of redemption and reinvention. After serving time in the DEA’s Operation Cyber Juice, he turned his life around—earning a biochemistry degree and launching the groundbreaking Dialed-In-Optimization (DIO™) health tech protocol. Now, through H4M and the Think For Yourself podcast, Ryan empowers others with raw, science-backed insights on hormone health, performance, and longevity. Visit www.HormonesForMe.com for updates and inspiration.If you enjoy the podcast, you can help keep it funded by buying me a virtual coffee at www.coff.ee/speakingofinclusion. Every contribution helps the show keep going! Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Helping Teams “Click” - with Daria Rudnik

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Daria Rudnik, team architect, executive leadership coach, and author of the book "Clicking". Daria shares her expertise from years as a Chief People Officer, her global leadership experience, and her unique approach to helping teams move from surviving to truly "clicking"… especially in challenging and rapidly changing environments.We also explore the real power of intentional team culture, those moments when a group of individuals comes together to achieve something greater than the sum of its parts. Daria offers practical insights into how leaders can build meaningful connections, manage conflict in human-focused ways, and create team environments that include all voices at the table, even those that are quieter or more introverted.Here are three key takeaways from today’s episode...Team success isn’t accidental: High-performing teams thrive on intentional culture-building, where the “how” of working together is just as important as the shared purpose or “why”.Rules and norms provide clarity: Defining how decisions are made, how meetings are run, and what behaviours are valued or not tolerated helps create trust and inclusive collaboration.Influence comes in many forms: Daria shares ideas for quieter or introverted team members to make their voices heard, not just during meetings but also before and after, and highlights that everyone has the power to shape the culture of their team, step by step.As you listen, consider this question: In your own team, are the ways you work together (your norms, decision-making, and behaviours) truly clear and intentional, or are you relying on accidental culture?Daria’s book “Clicking” is available to buy from her website www.DariaRudnik.com If you enjoy the podcast, you can help keep it funded by buying me a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion. Every contribution helps the show keep going!Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    The Current World & Traditional Medicine with Dr Tom Ingegno

    In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Dr. Tom Ingegno, a bestselling author, clinician and speaker with nearly 25 years' experience in integrative medicine.Tom runs Charm City Integrative Healthcare in Baltimore and has been featured in national outlets such as WebMD and Forbes. His work beautifully blends traditional and East Asian therapies with modern wellness practices, with a particular flair for making complex health ideas practical and accessible.Our conversation explored the interconnected topics of health, politics, social structures and the many layers that come with being human. We talk about what happens when you question the systems you were brought up in, the impact of generational expectations, and the beauty (and challenges) of forging your own path outside of tradition.Here are three key takeaways from this episode:The power of curiosity and how it shapes not only individual lives but also influences entire communities and approaches to healing.The crucial role of holistic wellbeing, or as Tom puts it “whole being health”, and the importance of addressing all aspects of our lives, not just the physical.The significance of acknowledging the origins of knowledge and practice, and the importance of using culturally respectful terminology in talking about East Asian medicine.As you listen, I’d encourage you to reflect on this question: In what ways are our personal health and wellbeing linked to the structures and attitudes of the society around us, and how much agency do we have in shaping our own path within it?Tom is the host of the Irreverent Health podcast and can be contacted from his website www.CharmCityIntegrative.com or www.IrreverentHealth.com If you enjoy the conversation and want to support the show, please consider visiting www.BuyMeACoffee.com and buying me a virtual coffee to help keep Speaking of Inclusion funded. The link is coff.ee/speakingofinclusion.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Breaking Our Silence - with Blanca E. Rodriguez

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Blanca E. Rodriguez, owner and CEO of Wounded Healer LLC, Amazon Bestselling co-author, holistic life coach, and TEDx speaker. Together, we explore the importance of breaking our silence around challenging lived experiences, particularly those involving sexual violence and abuse. We also celebrate the important role that music, dance, and movement play in personal healing, both for Blanca and others she’s helped through her work.Through honest conversation, Blanca shares how her upbringing, her parents’ resilience, and her own journey through trauma have shaped her commitment to creating safe spaces, whether in the dance studio, workplace, or anywhere people come together. Together we reflect on the need to simplify life in times of overwhelm, and why acknowledging, listening, and supporting one another is foundational to genuine inclusion.Three key takeaways from this episode:1.     Silence perpetuates trauma and isolation, but sharing your story, however hard, can be the seed for healing and positive change, for both individuals and the wider community.2.     Creating safe, supportive spaces (at work or anywhere) means truly listening, without judgement, advice, or minimisation, so people feel seen, heard, and believed.3.     Movement, music, and dance are powerful forms of medicine, helping us process emotions and reconnect with ourselves and others, sometimes mirroring the naturalinstincts of our animal companions to shake off stress.While you listen, consider this: How might you show up (whether as an ally, colleague, friend, or leader) and create an environment where someone feels safe enough to share what matters most to them, without fear or shame?Things we said we'd include in this episode's show notes:·       Statistics on sexual assault in the UK:According to a 2021 UK Parliamentary report there are believed to be 3.4 million acts of rape or sexual violence committed each year in England and Wales, of which 83% go unreported. Conviction rates of the proportion reported sit at 5%.It appears that rates are similar in the US also. Blanca can be contacted via her website www.WoundedhHealer.us She is on all social media platforms as @WoundedHealer.Blanca EIf you found value in today’s podcast and want to help keep Speaking of Inclusion running, please head to coff.ee/speakingofinclusion and buy Katie a virtual coffee. Every cuppa helps keep this space funded and flourishing.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations. www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Stress Less Workplace

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Jim Thorp, a health coach and workplace stress expert, to talk all things workplace stress. What triggers it, where it shows up in our lives, and most importantly, what we can actually do about it. Jim brings a grounded holistic perspective, encouraging us to consider both the physical and emotional aspects of stress, not just as individuals but as teams and organisations.Throughout our conversation, you'll hear real-world examples, from office temperature battles to the overlooked impact of home life on how we show up at work. We explore why striving for a completely stress-free workplace is probably a fantasy, and instead focus on actionable ways to move towards 'stressed less' environments. Jim Thorp shares practical advice for noticing stress, auditing wellbeing, and how small changes really do build towards happier, healthier teams.Three key takeaways you’ll get from this episode:Recognising stress, not just fighting it, is the first step toward reducing its impact, whether it's something you’re carrying into work from home or workplace irritations like hot desking and unfriendly coffee machines.Stress affects everyone differently, and the way an organisation addresses it must be just as varied. Generic fixes rarely work; understanding individual differences is crucial.Holistic health approaches (thinking beyond physical fitness to nutrition, sleep, emotional wellbeing, and even thermogenic stresses) can unlock better performance, greater inclusion and improved retention.While you’re listening today, I invite you to reflect on this question: How well do you recognise and respond to the sources of stress, both in yourself and your colleagues, and how could that change the everyday experience at work?You can connect with Jim via his website www.JTEthos.com or on LinkedIn JimThorpBefore you settle in, here’s a little request: If you enjoy the podcast and want to help keep it funded, head to coff.ee/speakingofinclusion and buy me a virtual coffee. Every cup goes a long way in helping us keep these human conversations going.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations. www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Different is Okay - with Charlie Hart

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Charlie Hart, perhaps better known online as "awesome Charlie, awesome with an AU." Charlie is a professional speaker on neurodiversity and LGBTQIA+ inclusion, and shebrings a powerful mix of lived experience, practical advice, and candid storytelling to our conversation.Trigger Warning – we do discuss Charlie’s personal experiences of her son’s death by suicide. We give a warning ahead of this section and it’s only a few minutes long if you need to skip ahead.We cover everything from what inspired Charlie’s advocacy journey (including how her son's autism diagnosis led to her own self-discovery and joining the “actually autistic” movement), to the importance of role models, and the waysmanagers and organisations can genuinely foster inclusion. Charlie shares honest examples from her own work and family, offering insight into the real impact when people are empowered to be themselves at work and beyond.Here are three things you’ll take away from this episode:The value of allowing everyone to set their communication preferences, and how simple adjustments in the workplace can have significant, positive effects oninclusion. Why role modelling vulnerability as a leader isn’t just about empathy, it’s essential to psychological safety and creates space for honest, productive conversations. The reality that “normal” is simply what’s been normalised, and why celebrating difference not only brings better outcomes at work but genuinely changes lives for the better.As you listen, consider this: How often do you pause to ask your colleagues or the people you care about what truly helps them feel included, supported, and understood?You can connect with Charlie Hart via:All social platforms: @AusomeCharlieWebsite: www.AusomeCharlie.co.ukAnd if you enjoyed this conversation, help support the show by buying me a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion. Your support keeps the podcast funded and freely available for everyone.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    WooWoo in the Workplace - with Cheryl Thornton

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion… I am joined by Cheryl Thornton, a coach, mentor, and facilitator who runs the Root and Rise women in business collective. Together, we’re taking a look at at the unexpected topic of “woo woo” into the workplace. Whether that's about trusting your gut, tuning in to spirituality (in whatever shape it takes for you), or simply making space in work for feelings and intuition alongside the usual logic and data.Cheryl and I both come from corporate leadership backgrounds where decision making is so often overwhelmingly rational and fact-based, and yet over time, we’ve each felt the call to balance that with our intuitive selves. We talk honestly about the fear of judgement that comes with showing up as your whole self at work, especially if you worry your peers might dismiss your more soul-led side as odd, silly, or irrelevant.If you’ve ever found yourself holding back from talking about feelings, gut instinct, or the less “concrete” elements of yourself at work, this episode is for you. Cheryl shares her experiences of losing (and then reconnecting) her intuition, and we dig into both the stigma and the practicalities of encouraging more honesty and humanity at work.Here are three key takeaways from our conversation:Balance isn’t about ditching logic for “woo woo”, it’s about allowing both to have a seat at the table. Your gut and intuition are just as important as your data and analysis when it comes to good decision-making, and having diverse perspectives leads to better outcomes for everyone.There is a real sense of safety that comes when people are able to contribute their perspectives without fear of judgement, even if those perspectives are driven by feelings, intuition, or unquantifiable experience. Leaders and colleagues alike can ask, “what’s your sense of this?” to invite more holistic inputs.You are not alone if you feel like you have to hide the more spiritual, soulful, or feeling-led parts of yourself at work. There is huge value, both personally and collectively, in learning to identify, embrace, and openly communicate your authentic self, even if it requires getting uncomfortable or doing the “hard self-care” work.As you listen, here’s a question for you to reflect on: How much of yourself do you actually bring to work, and what would change for you if you felt safe enough to share both your logic and your intuition? If you have questions for Cheryl, she can be contacted on:Website: www.cherylthornton.co.ukInstagram: @heartleddevelopmentLinkedIn: @Cheryl ThorntonIf you found this conversation important or valuable, please visit www.BuyMeACoffee.com and buy me a virtual coffee to help keep the podcast funded and these inclusion conversations going. The link is coff.ee/speakingofinclusion.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Narcissistic Abusers - with Marysol James

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion… I am joined by Marysol James, best-selling author, coach, and global speaker, who now specialises in supporting high achieving women to break free from narcissistic, abusive relationships. This episode carries an important trigger warning, as we confront the hidden realities of domestic abuse, manipulation, gaslighting, dog whistling, and the particular challenges high performing women face, both in their personal lives and in the workplace.Marysol bravely shares her own story of escaping a narcissistic relationship, despite years of international leadership experience, success, and self-confidence. Together, we explore why high achieving women can be especially vulnerable to such relationships, how these patterns manifest at work, and critically, what we can do, both as individuals and organisations, to address and interrupt the cycle of abuse.Here are three key takeaways from today’s conversation:Abuse doesn’t discriminate based on education, career, or confidence: High performing women are often targeted by narcissistic abusers precisely because of their resilience, success, and optimism about people’s potential, and these very qualities can keep them trapped.The patterns of narcissistic abuse are often subtle and corrosive, including cycles of love bombing, devaluation, and gaslighting, which can seriously impact not just home life but also professional performance, leading to micro-patterns at work that are frequently misunderstood as burnout or disengagement.There is an urgent need for workplace awareness and policy: Organisations are largely overlooking domestic abuse as a genuine workplace issue, yet the impact on wellbeing, retention, and business bottom lines is enormous. Noticing patterns, listening without judgement, and creating safer spaces for disclosure matters.As you’re listening, I invite you to reflect on this:If someone you knew was experiencing these subtle, persistent warning signs, would you know how to recognise them, and crucially, what to do next?If you are worried about someone experiencing domestic violence, or you yourself are in need of support you can reach out to Marysol directly via her website www.marysoljamescoaching.com, or contact the National Domestic Abuse Helpline on 0808 2000 247.If you found this conversation important or valuable, please visit www.BuyMeACoffee.com and buy me a virtual coffee to help keep the podcast funded and these inclusion conversations going. The link is coff.ee/speakingofinclusion.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Honest Conversations - with Kate Fletcher

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Kate Fletcher, Inclusion Member Manager for Dial Global and a former DEI specialist in the Met Police. In this chat we took off the filter and were honest about the realities of working in the diversity, equity and inclusion space. Not just in workplaces, but as human beings navigating the messy, imperfect, and sometimes uncomfortable world of DEI.In our conversation, Kate shares her unique journey from frontline police work to DEI leadership, reflecting on missteps, lessons learned, and the rocky road that’s led her (and so many of us) into this field. We explore what it really means to be “human” while doing this work, the need for constant learning (and unlearning), and why it’s crucial to examine not just what we get right, but where we get it wrong.Three key takeaways from this episode:The importance of context and lived experience: Both Kate and I share how our routes into DEI were fuelled by moments that made us feel angry, excluded, or overlooked, reminding us that no one ends up in this work by accident.Being complicit in problematic cultures: We talk about the survival tactics we used in challenging environments, from going along with “banter” to keeping quiet in the face of microaggressions, and the internal reckonings that prompted us to make noise and act differently, despite the risks.The real work of inclusion is messy: Whether it’s challenging organisational structures, redefining who gets heard in networks, or checking our own biases, genuine progress is rarely neat. It involves acknowledging our own past mistakes, calling out systemic problems, and learning to create psychologically safe spaces for honest conversation.A question for you to reflect on as you listen: Where in your own work or life have you accommodated the comfort of others at the expense of your own values? What would need to be different for you to choose otherwise next time?Things we said we'd include in this episode's show notes:Kate Fletcher's LinkedIn profile (for anyone wanting to connect with her directly) @KateFletcherIf you’d like to support the show and help keep Speaking of Inclusion funded, please head over to coff.ee/speakingofinclusion and buy me a virtual coffee. Your support is always appreciated!Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Introversion - with Sharon Hurley Hall (again)

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Sharon Hurley Hall, who returns to the podcast for an another honest and thoughtful conversation, this time about introversion and what it means to show up authentically in a world that seems built for extroverts. If you missed Sharon’s previous episode, where we discussed anti-racism and colourism, don’t worry – you can pop back in to listen to that next, as today’s discussion stands beautifully on its own.Together, Sharon and I explore the nuances of introvert energy, navigating social expectations, workplace environments, and the all-too-familiar challenge of finding your own rhythm in groups both online and offline. As someone firmly on the extrovert spectrum, I found it fascinating to compare our experiences and to learn the ways Sharon creates space for herself in a world that often doesn’t. We also talk about the importance of language in defining who we are, strategies for managing energy, and how each of us can advocate for our own needs in professional and personal spheres.Here are three key takeaways from this episode:Introversion isn’t a deficit or a superpower – it’s simply one way of experiencing the world, and everyone benefits when we move away from labelling certain traits as “better” or “worse.”Knowing and advocating for your own needs – whether that’s requesting quiet spaces at work, blocking out time for rest, or being honest with friends about needing downtime – is essential to both your wellbeing and your relationships.There are countless ways to participate and be visible, especially online; it’s about experimenting and finding what aligns with your own energy, rather than following prescriptive rules about how to network or “put yourself out there.”While you listen, here’s a question to reflect on: What do you need to truly recharge in your work or social life, and how often do you give yourself permission to ask for it?Things we said we'd include in this episode's show notes:Sharon’s fiction recommendation: Babel by RF KuangBook tracking app: The StoryGraph (founded by a Black woman and an alternative to Goodreads)You can connect with Sharon by visiting her website or connecting with her on LinkedInwww.SharonHH.comSharon on LinkedInIf you find value in these conversations and want to help keep Speaking of Inclusion going, please consider buying me a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion – your support genuinely helps to keep the show funded and independent.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Anti-Racism & Colourism - with Sharon Hurley Hall

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by Sharon Hurley Hall: author, educator, and anti-racism activist.Sharon is well known for her insightful anti-racism newsletter, and her book “I’m Tired of Racism: True Stories of Existing While Black and Exploring Shadism”. Sharon’s work has been a huge influence on my understanding of inclusion, and I’m so pleased to bring this conversation to you.In our chat, we explore everything from colourism and the origins of racism, to white saviourism and how anti-Blackness continues to shape our world today. Sharon generously shares her personal experiences, how she found her voice as an anti-racism writer, and why collective unlearning is crucial if we ever hope to build a fairer society.Here are three key takeaways you’ll want to listen for:Race is a made-up social construct – but racism is devastatingly real, impacting the everyday lived experiences of Black people and those racialised as non-white.The legacy of colonialism and colourism continues to play a direct role in present-day inequalities, shaping everything from beauty standards to the world’s economies.The importance of moving from learning to action – it’s not enough to simply be more informed; the difference comes when we ask ourselves what we will do differently as a result.As you listen, reflect on this question:What stories have you inherited about race, and how might they still be influencing your thoughts, actions, and assumptions today?Things we said we'd include in this episode's show notes:A link to Sharon Hurley Hall’s Anti-Racism Newsletter > HEREFact check about the origins and meaning behind the board game Monopoly > HEREReference to “Citizens” and the authors names I couldn't remember being Jon Alexander and Ariane Conrad.Reticular activating system (RAS) being the term I couldn't remember that means we always see red cars when we just bought a red car.If you’re enjoying the podcast and want to help keep Speaking of Inclusion on the airwaves, please consider buying me a virtual coffee – your support really does make a difference. Just pop over to coff.ee/speakingofinclusion and bung me a few quid.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – “No Drama” by Alder

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    Birth Trauma & Healing - with Michelle Knight

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Michelle Knight, a consultant, midwife and birth trauma specialist, to tackle the complex, emotional, and frequently misunderstood world of birth trauma and the broader issues around birth, parenthood, and support in our society.Michelle shares her journey from training as a nurse, to working as cabin crew, and then finally discovering her true calling within midwifery. We talk about how her instinct for caring for people, paired with cultural awareness and trauma-informed practice, shapes the vital support she offers today. And it’s not only to those experiencing birth trauma but also to organisations looking to create inclusive, safe spaces for their teams.Three key takeaways from this episode:1.     Birth trauma isn’t just about the moment of birth; it’s shaped by expectations, communication gaps, cultural narratives, and the lingering effects on both the birthing person and their families. Addressing trauma is a holistic, ongoing process that often requires sensitive debriefing and acknowledgement of everyone’s unique circumstances.2.     Societal assumptions about who "should" have children, as well as workplace expectations around parental leave and return-to-work, profoundly impact mental health and inclusion. Support must extend to all people, regardless of gender identity, parenting status, or family structure.3.     Healing after birth trauma, or through any major life transition, can be supported by holistic practices such as talking therapies, meditation, and practical adjustments in the workplace. Listening, making time, and creating space for open conversations are crucial, both at home and at work.As you listen to this episode, I invite you to consider: How inclusive and supportive are the conversations and policies around birth, parenthood, andlife choices in your workplace or community? Are there assumptions or gaps, and what small changes could you make to create more space for everyone’s lived experience?Things we said we'd include in this episode’s show notes:A reminder that you can book a free 30-minute consultation with Michelle to talk more about your personal circumstances, or get support if you’re an organisation. Enjoyed this episode? Why not buy me a coffee using this link https://coff.ee/speakingofinclusionAnd get in touch with Michelle:Website - www.MichelleKnight-Consultant.comSocials - @MichelleKnightConsultantEmail – [email protected] Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations. www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder.

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    Raising Voices - with Vicky Quinn Fraser

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by Vicky Quinn Fraser, a book coach, writer, and champion for underrepresented voices in non-fiction publishing. Together, we explore Vicky’s refreshingly honest journey through an ADHD and autism diagnosis in her forties, and discuss what it means to navigate a world not quite built for you. From the challenges of the traditional publishing industry to the joy (and trials) of self-publishing, Vicky shares her passion for making space for more diverse stories and why every perspective matters, especially the ones society too often overlooks.During our conversation, Vicky shares why owning our labels (and the choice to use or reject them) can be both liberating and complicated. We talk about the importance of enabling honest feedback, whether you’re writing a book or leading a team in the workplace, and why hearing a wider range of human stories is crucial, not just in books but in building truly inclusive organisations. And, in what is now a Speaking of Inclusion tradition, we leave in a little unplanned moment: Vicky’s Alexa burst into song, leading to a "Name That Tune" competition (and a chance to win a free book if you can guess the melody).Three key takeaways from this episode:Diagnosis is nuanced: Receiving a late diagnosis of ADHD and autism can be both a relief and a challenge. Vicky reminds us that labels can help us find community and explain our experiences, but shouldn’t be a source of shame.Representation is essential: The traditional publishing world hasn’t always been welcoming to marginalised voices, but independent publishing is shaking that up. Your lived experience is valuable, and your story deserves to be told.Create safer spaces for feedback: Whether you’re writing a book, leading a team, or advocating for inclusion, genuinely inviting and handling honest feedback (and giving yourself space to process it) is vital for growth and real change.As you listen, consider this:What stories, your own or those around you, are going unheard in your workplace, and what practical steps could you take to help those voices be shared?We said we’d include in this episode’s show notes:Book recommendation: The Six Conversations We're Scared to Have by Deborah Frances-WhiteDrop in the comments or email Katie to enter the Name That Tune competition for a chance to win a copy of Vicky’s book ([email protected])Where to sign up for Vicky’s entertaining and insightful email newsletter (moxiebooks.co.uk/notes-in-the-margin)Vicky’s book titles, including “How the Hell Do You Write a Book?” and “Don’t Eat the Frog”Vicky can be connected with on LinkedIn @VickyQuinnFraser and Instagram @TinyBeetleStepsSpeaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Challenging Biases - with Erefa Coker

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion… I am joined by Erefa Coker, a specialist in talent acquisition and cross-cultural integration. Erefa is the founder of Imo Talent, a company bridging the gap between global organisations and top talent from Africa. In this conversation we explore how biases, both conscious and unconscious, surface when it comes to considering the skills and expertise of people outside of our familiar frames of reference. It's an honest look at the hesitations, assumptions, and sometimes uncomfortable realities that organisations face when considering hiring people on a globally remote basis. Erefa candidly details the barriers she encounters, from questions of trust and language to subtler (and sometimes not so subtle) forms of anti-Black racism. As we unpack these issues together, I encourage you to listen with curiosity and to reflect on your own internal responses as the discussion unfolds.Here are three key takeaways from today’s episode:Bias in Talent Acquisition: Despite an undeniable abundance of skilled and motivated candidates in Africa, biases often mean organisations bypass African talent in favour of more familiar locations. These attitudes reveal much about ingrained perceptions around culture, qualifications, and trust.Cross-Cultural Opportunities and Learning: Offshoring isn’t just a business decision, it’s an opportunity for genuine cross-cultural exchange. Erefa describes how organisations and talent both benefit when they move past assumptions and embrace the rich perspectives that emerge when global teams collaborate.The Persistence of Anti-Black Racism: Our discussion doesn’t shy away from the discomfort of recognising how anti-Blackness can show up in the workplace, within hiring processes and even among Black communities themselves. Erefa offers her lived insights on colourism, name biases, and the exhausting reality of second-guessing one’s place in so many professional interactions.As you listen, I’d like you to reflect on this question: How do your own reservations (about geography, culture, or simply the unfamiliar) affect the way you view potential candidates, or source new talent? We said we'd include in this episode's show notes:Erefa’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erefa-fynecontry-coker/Ima Imo’s website: www.imo-talent.appSpeaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – “No Drama” by Alder

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    Lived Experience - with Esi Hardy

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by Esi Hardy, founder of Celebrating Disability. Esi is an advocate, facilitator and consultant who works with organisations to develop truly inclusive workplaces for disabled people.Our conversation begins with Esi sharing a personal story of the challenges she faced trying to organise accessible equipment for a holiday; an experience filled with administrative roadblocks, lack of empathy, and systemic failures in understanding disability needs. It's a stark reminder of how everyday experiences are often far from straightforward for disabled people, even when dealing with organisations whose entire purpose should be to support them.From there, we explore some key concepts in disability inclusion, including the practicalities and culture around ‘reasonable adjustments’ in workplaces. Esi explains the difference between proactive and reactive adjustments, and highlights why creating an inclusive culture from top to bottom matters so much more than ticking boxes or implementing last-minute fixes. We discuss the various models of disability (the social, medical and charity models) and how these influence attitudes and actions in society and at work.We also dig into ‘weathering’ , a term that describes the gradual emotional and energetic toll of receiving countless microaggressions, administrative obstacles, and subtle (or not-so-subtle) reminders that you don’t quite belong. The cumulative effect erodes self-confidence and well-being in a way rarely acknowledged by most work cultures.If you listen to the very end, you’ll hear Esi’s golden piece of advice (something quite unique, which she picked up from a book about psychopathy and unexpectedly applied to her approach to advocacy and life). Trust me, it’s an absolute gem and well worth waiting for.Here are three key takeaways from this episode:Lived experience is crucial: Systems and adjustments designed without regular input from disabled people almost always miss the mark. True inclusion is only possible when you listen to those whose lives are most affected.Proactive trumps reactive: Building inclusion into the DNA of your workplace culture, processes, and everyday practices will always be more effective than scrambling to fix individual problems as they arise.The unseen cost of ‘weathering’: For disabled people, and other marginalised groups, the mental and emotional labour of advocating for your most basic needs can be exhausting. Systems that don’t acknowledge or seek to alleviate this are not truly inclusive.A question to reflect on while listening: Are your workplace or personal actions removing barriers, or are there hidden assumptions and practices that might be quietly creating them?We said we’d include in this episode's show notes:A fact-check and resource link about the concept of ‘weathering’ and where it was first coined."Dr. Arline T. Geronimus coined the term “weathering” to describe the effects of systemic oppression—including racism and classism—on the body. In Weathering, based on more than 30 years of research, she argues that health and aging have more to do with how society treats us than how well we take care of ourselves. She explains what happens to human bodies as they attempt to withstand and overcome the challenges and insults that society leverages at them, and details how this process ravages their health." Source: https://amzn.eu/d/7HGOmtfEsi Hardy can be contact via LinkedIn @EsiHardy or on the Celebrating Disability website CelebratingDisability.co.ukSpeaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Emotions at Work - with Phil Willcox

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion… I am joined by Phil Willcox, founder of Emotion at Work Consulting. Phil and I spend time exploring the full spectrum of emotions we experience not just at work, but in every part of our lives, and, crucially, how we can recognise, manage, and respond to them in real time.We began our conversation by honestly acknowledging our own emotional states as we started recording, setting the tone for a discussion grounded in our own authenticity. We did this intentionally. Phil shares his expertise on how emotions and moods aren't the same, and how our bodies react physically to what we’re feeling – whether those emotions are triggered by real events, memories, or even our imaginations. We talk about proactive steps you can take, like going for a walk, to regulate emotional energy, as well as what happens when we try to suppress or ignore our feelings instead.Here are three key takeaways to listen out for:The difference between proactive and reactive emotion regulation, and practical ways you can choose (or modify) your environment, routines, and habits to handle emotions more constructively.Why expressing your emotions, even in small or non-traditional ways, is healthier than suppressing them, and how this links to a sense of psychological safety and inclusion at work.The potential harm of “toxic positivity” and why a workplace culture that only values happiness can end up excluding or alienating those who are experiencing something different.As you listen, consider this: How comfortable do you really feel about expressing a range of emotions at work, and what impact might that have on your team’s sense of belonging?You can connect with Phil Willcox on LinkedIn and via Instagram @EmotionAt_Work. His podcast "Emotion At Work" is available on all streaming platforms.Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    SELFish Leadership - with Gary Parsons

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by my wonderful friend Gary Parsons, a leadership mental health and wellbeing advocate and professional speaker. Our conversation centres the crucial topic of mental health in leadership and explores how leaders need to care for their wellbeing to effectively support their teams. Gary shares his unique perspective, drawing from his experiences running a successful seven-figure business and the personal challenges he faced that led to burnout. He presents his engaging "SELF" framework for leadership, focusing on setting boundaries, elevating wellbeing, leading with intention, and fostering growth. We also get into the vital, yet challenging, topic of the stigma surrounding mental health in leadership roles and the importance of having open conversations about these challenges.Additionally, Gary discusses his involvement in a project with Face Equality International, raising awareness around facial differences—a subject close to his heart following his experience with Bell's palsy.Key Takeaways:Leaders must prioritise their own mental health to be able to support others effectively.The traditional hustle culture can lead to burnout; instead, embracing "selfish leadership" can promote sustainability and success.Open conversations about mental health challenges are vital to combat stigma, and sharing personal experiences can inspire others to seek the help they may need.Reflective Question: How can you start prioritising your own wellbeing as a leader to better serve your team and organisation?Gary Parsons can be connected with on all social media platforms using @GaryParsonsUK and via his website www.GaryParsons.ukSpeaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen, an inclusion confidence coach, professional speaker, and DEI consultant. She champions honest conversations without the fear of putting your foot in it – it’s DEI without BS.www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Better Relationships - with Verity Glasgow

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by Verity Glasgow, the CEO of One Plus One, a charity that delves into the complexities of human interactions and relationships. This chat is all about the crucial role relationships play in our personal and professional lives, and the importance of creating and maintaining high-quality relationships. We also talk about recognising the signs that our relationships need attention, and how we can "argue better" to create understanding and connection. Verity shares insights into the "messy middle" of relationships and practical advice on how to navigate those challenging times (that will always happen!) with awareness and compassion.Three key takeaways from this conversation include:The significance of recognising and nurturing the quality of your relationships, as it impacts mental health, well-being, and overall life satisfaction.The importance of regularly "checking in" on relationships, akin to how we monitor physical health, to ensure mutual growth and connection.Practical strategies for improving relational capabilities, particularly in high-stress interactions, whether at home or work.As you listen, reflect on this question: How often do you intentionally invest time and energy into assessing and improving the quality of your relationships?Connect with Verity:LinkedIn @[email protected] of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allenwww.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    The Neuroscience of Happiness - with Matt Phelan

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by Matt Phelan, Co-founder and Co-CEO of the Happiness Index, an innovative platform that measures employee engagement and happiness. Aside from having a a great laugh at one another, Matt and I also talk about the pivotal role emotions play in the workplace and how they serve as crucial data points. We discuss how understanding these emotions can lead to meaningful conversations about inclusion and allyship within organisations. And Matt also sheds light on how the Happiness Index works, providing real-world client examples that highlight its impact. We also touch on the intersection of happiness, mental well-being, and workplace policies, emphasising the importance of initiating these conversations sooner rather than later. Key Takeaways: Emotions as Data: How feelings and emotions are vital data points for understanding employee engagement and happiness. Authentic Leadership: The importance of leaders understanding and acting on data to create an inclusive work environment. The Business Case: How investing in employee happiness can result in tangible business benefits, including financial gains and retention improvement. As you listen to this episode, ask yourself: Are you aware of the 'little fires' within your organisation that might be impacting your employees' happiness and engagement? You can get in tough with Matt and find out more about the Happiness Index via: www.TheHappinessIndex.com www.MattPhelan.co.uk Linkedin @MatthewPhelan Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Not Fearing Change - with Joanne Lockwood

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by the fantastic Joanne Lockwood. Jo is a workshop facilitator, organisational consultant, and a professional speaker on creating cultures of conscious inclusion. We picked our way through many tricky topics of conversation, from societal norms to politics, and the impact of Donald Trump. Jo also opened up to me about why she doesn't like the idea of being labelled as a trans activist, despite the term often being associated with her. During our discussion, we talk about into the importance of not fearing change, especially in organisational settings, and how embracing change as leaders can lead to positive transformations. We also touch on the media's influence on public perception and the importance of constructive dialogue over combative interactions. Key takeaways from this episode include: The need to create inclusive environments where all voices feel valued and heard. The role of conscious inclusion in improving workplace cultures and experiences. The importance of internal branding and alignment between an organisation’s values and its daily practices. While listening to this episode, consider this question: How can you as an individual or leader contribute to fostering a culture of conscious inclusion within your own organisation? You can connect with Jo Lockwood via: Her website - www.SeeChangeHappen.co.uk LinkedIn - @JoLockwood YouTube - @SeeChangeHappen Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Secret Superpowers of Sound - with Priscilla Leigh

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Priscilla Leigh! Priscilla is a Swiss born, French raised, Ghanaian psycho-audiologist (say that three times fast!) who has an extraordinary career journey and an unparalleled curiosity for exploring the intricate relationship between our auditory system and our behaviour, mood, and emotions. Priscilla shares with me her unique expertise, blending psychology and audiology, to explain how our hearing significantly impacts our emotions and energy. In our conversation, she shares insights into how the auditory system works beyond simply our hearing, and the unexpected ways in which it influences our wellbeing, and how sound therapy can offer solutions to challenges ranging from attention difficulties to emotional distress. We discuss her work with neurodivergent children, shedding light on how sound can affect behaviour and wellbeing, as well as her leadership coaching and public speaking strategies backed by the science of sound. Three key takeaways from this episode are: Understanding the auditory system’s role in emotional regulation can provide new avenues for addressing mental health issues. Sound therapy and auditory training can significantly improve cognitive functions like attention and memory. Practical techniques like enhancing public speaking through auditory feedback and managing stress via auditory stimulation. As you listen, consider this question: How might your own auditory experiences be silently shaping your emotional and cognitive world? Priscilla can be connected with via: LinkedIn - @PriscillaLeigh Email - [email protected] Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Addressing Harassment - with Dr Enya Doyle

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by Dr. Enya Doyle, also known as "The Harassment Dr". Together, we get into the potential messiness of the crucial topic of sexual harassment and how to maintain a safe and inclusive environment for all employees - especially at this time of year! Enya delves into the complexities of harassment beyond gender, drawing upon Kimberlé Crenshaw’s intersectionality theory, and highlights the misconceptions around same-gender harassment. We also tackle the nuances of systemic discrimination, touching on the often-overlooked roles that tradition and institutional practices play in sustaining inequities. She not only critiques superficial diversity efforts but also underscores the imperative for serious organisational introspection and action. We discuss the psychological safety of employees, the significance of proactive measures like the Worker Protection Act in the UK, and the importance of constant curiosity and learning in driving societal change. Key takeaways from this episode include: The importance of accepting and acting on anonymous reports to enhance workplace safety and trust. Recognising that harassment and discrimination issues are deeply embedded in systemic and institutional frameworks, requiring persistent efforts to address. Understanding that non-consensual acts are driven by power dynamics rather than sex, necessitating a potential shift in societal perceptions and organisational policies. As you listen, consider this question: How can your organisation better support and encourage safe reporting channels to ensure all employees feel protected and heard? Dr Enya Doyle can be contacted on the following platforms: LinkedIn - @DrEnyaDoyle Instagram - @TheHarrasmentDr Website - www.EnyaDoyle.com Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    The Story Behind the Story - with Jackie Handy

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by the legend that is Jackie Handy! Together, we get into the nitty gritty of inclusivity, beyond the token gestures often seen in corporate settings. Jackie shares her journey, including her transformative experience on the Camino de Santiago, unveiling the profound realisations that came with understanding the "story behind the story." We also discuss the importance of vulnerable and reciprocal connections in building authentic relationships both personally and professionally. As you have come to expect from this show, we also tackle some challenging topics, such as the authenticity of post-George Floyd inclusion efforts and the frustrating corporate resistance to genuine, uncomfortable conversations around bias. Jackie also shares a deeply moving story about how she met Jeff Beaudoin on her travels, which beautifully and vulnerably illustrates the impact of withholding judgment and embracing empathy. Reflective Question: How can you foster genuine inclusivity in your own interactions and within your organisation, beyond the superficial initiatives often promoted? Jackie Handy can be contacted using LinkedIn and her website: @JackieHandy www.JackieHandy.com More information of the story of Nikki and Jeff Beaudoin can be found HERE, and details of Be A Nice Human can be found HERE. Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen.www.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder.

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    The Power of Data - with Cat Wildman

    In today’s episode of Speaking of Inclusion, I am joined by Cat Wildman, founding director of Powered by Diversity. Together, we explore the critical importance of data in advancing equity, diversity, and inclusion (EDI) within organisations. Cat shares her personal journey from a STEM background to creating a comprehensive EDI framework designed to unravel systemic issues like the gender pay gap. We discuss the limitations of certain types of training sessions, the critical need for continuous education, and the significance of fostering psychological safety to facilitate open, productive dialogue. Throughout our conversation, Cat underscores the shortcomings in current EDI practices, including an incident that highlighted the exclusion of Jewish people from these initiatives. We also touch upon the surge of EDI activities in the wake of George Floyd’s murder, and the action or lack thereof since, the pressures organisations feel to appear proactive, and the genuine change that continuous, data-driven EDI efforts can bring about. Here are three key takeaways from today’s episode: The Power of Data: Understanding that meaningful EDI work must be grounded in data to uncover and address imbalances in areas such as recruitment, promotions, and pay. Resistance to Change: Recognising that defensiveness and discomfort are common reactions when discussing EDI topics, and learning how to create environments where psychological safety encourages honest, open conversations. Ongoing Commitment: EDI is not a one-off project but a continuous journey requiring persistent effort, adaptation, and education to be truly effective. As you listen, consider this question: How can your organisation use data to better understand and address its unique EDI challenges? Cat Wildman can be found on LinkedIn @CatWildman or her website www.PoweredByDiversity.org Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allenwww.KatieAllenConsulting.comTheme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds – "No Drama" by Alder

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    Conflict Transformation - with Marie Coombes

    In today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I'm joined by Marie Coombes of "We Restore Calm" and we're talking all about conflict! Marie is not just an expert in conflict—she's a master at transforming it as a tool for understanding and growth. In our conversation, we discuss into the intricacies of conflict and why it’s an inevitable, and not necessarily negative, part of our lives. We also explore the nature of "acceptance" over "agreement" and why that distinction is crucial in personal and professional settings. Marie gets metaphorical and geeks out with her impressive Marvel knowledge, which actually worked amazingly to illustrate her take on conflict, and kept the conversation fun too! Here are three things you need to know about this episode: Conflict as an "Unmet Need" Marie redefines conflict not as a confrontation to be avoided but as an opportunity to identify and address unmet needs. Constructive vs. Destructive Conflict Learn about the difference between managing conflict like "Bruce Banner" versus unleashing the "Hulk" and why curiosity and empathy are essential tools in transforming conflict into something productive. Acceptance or Agreement? Discover why aiming for acceptance of differing perspectives can be more valuable than pushing for agreement, and how this mindset can preserve relationships and foster real understanding. As you listen, I encourage you to reflect on this question: How do you currently approach conflicts, and what steps can you take to transform your reactions from defensive to constructive? So, you know the drill... Get comfortable in whichever way works best for you, and let's talk conflict with Marie Coombes! Maries can be found on LinkedIn as @MarieCoombes and her website is www.WeRestoreCalm.com

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    The Work of Inclusion - with Grace Mosuro

    In this episode, we're talking all about the "Work" of inclusion, and how to stay engaged and motivated when it starts to get hard (because it does)! Today I am joined by the incredible DEI speaker and consultant Grace Mosuro, and we talk about everything! From the importance of proper name pronunciation and how it affects career progression, to the complexities of addressing race equity in the workplace, and the ongoing need for inclusion efforts even in the face of public backlash. Here are three key takeaways from our conversation: 1. Effort Matters The importance of making an effort to pronounce difficult names correctly as a sign of respect and inclusion. 2. Systemic Challenges Understanding the systemic and historical barriers that impede the progress of marginalised communities, particularly in senior leadership roles. 3. Continuous Learning Inclusion is not a one-time task but an ongoing journey requiring continuous learning, adaptation, and genuine effort. As you listen to this episode, I invite you to reflect on this question: How can you contribute to fostering an inclusive environment in your own workplace or community by addressing both the small and large barriers to inclusion? Ready to get into the "work"? Grace Mosuro can be contacted on: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracemosuro/ Aquaintz Consulting Website - ⁠https://www.aquaintzconsulting.co.uk/ Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Workplace Hostility - with Philip Grindell

    In this episode I am joined by behavioural threat management specialist Philip Grindell to talk all about workplace hostility. Today Philip shines his light of expertise on the complexities of being a people manager, carrying the burden of complaints, and effectively handling issues that disrupt the status quo. We talk all about the critical importance of conducting professional, unbiased investigations in the workplace, and the stark necessity to recognise and understand grievances before they escalate into more severe threats. Philip shares his scary level of knowledge using real examples, highlighting the need for thorough fact-finding approaches, and the significance of listening with genuine care. Want three key takeaways from our conversation? Well, here you go... 1. Independent investigations are crucial for maintaining objectivity and addressing workplace complaints fairly and effectively. 2. Reading body language and establishing trust can help detect underlying grievances and unearth potential threats before they escalate. 3. Creating a culture of transparency and proactive management can not only prevent misconduct but also enhance overall organisational performance and employee wellbeing. As you listen to this episode, consider this question: What can you do to avoid workplace escalation by creating a more inclusive and transparent workplace culture that prioritises open, genuine dialogue? Ready to get stuck into a juicy one?? Then let's get started! Philip Grindell can be contacted on: LinkedIn www.DefuseGlobal.com Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    The Real Foundations of Wellbeing - with Alex Williams

    In today's episode I am joined by Alex Williams, a dedicated mental health practitioner and speaker with over 20 years of clinical experience. Alex is a no BS kind of a person (and I love that!) and in this conversation we get real about mental health and wellbeing, and share our thoughts on the emotional and social needs that we as humans have in society today. Here are three top takeaways from our conversation: 1. Go beyond Mental Health First Aid While mental health first aid is often viewed as a cornerstone of workplace support, Alex argues that it falls short of its promises. He shares why more holistic and empathetic approaches are essential. 2. Empathy is critical We emphasise the necessity of understanding individual experiences lived experiences and not basic "one size fits all" approaches. 3. Simplicity in Wellbeing Alex advocates for focusing on 'good health, good times, and good people' while stressing that true happiness will probably come from simpler, everyday activities rather than relentless striving for success and productivity. As you listen to this episode I'd love for you to give this question some thought: How can we balance the need for productivity with the imperative of ensuring genuine mental and emotional wellbeing for ourselves and those around us? Ready to get invovled? Then let's do this!! Alex can be contacted in LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok at @AlexJWilliams and series 1 of his podcast "Tats & Chats", co-hosted with Dave James, can be found on Spotify. Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Menopause is a full body experience - with Trish Rimmer

    Joining me today is Trish Rimmer, a fabulous menopause and emotional well-being coach, who will share her invaluable insights and personal experiences, and tell us all about how the menopause is a "full body" experience - for people of any gender who have a female reproductive system. In this episode, Trish shares on how fluctuating oestrogen levels during menopause can dramatically affect our libido, intimate relationships, and overall well-being. She provides a comprehensive guide on managing the myriad symptoms of perimenopause, exploring options from Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) to alternative herbal solutions. We'll also discuss how lifestyle and dietary choices can mitigate some symptoms and improve general health during this pivotal phase of life. Here are just three key takeaways from our conversation: 1. The importance of nurturing different aspects of relationships beyond libido, especially as hormonal changes impact intimacy. 2. Practical advice for managing perimenopausal symptoms through a combination of medical options, lifestyle changes, and self-care practices. 3. The need for greater education and awareness about menopause, both within healthcare systems and society, to bring about better support and understanding. As you listen, I encourage you to reflect on this question: How equipped do you feel to support yourself or the people in your life as they navigate the complex journey of menopause? Ready to get started? Let's do it! Please welcome Trish Rimmer!! Trish can be contacted: LinkedIn - @TrishRimmer FaceBook - @TrishTheMenopauseCoach Website - www.TrishTheMenopauseCoach.com Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen www.KatieAllenConsulting.com Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder

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    Reflections on Inclusion - with Andreena Leeanne (again!)

    Episode 2/2... Once again I am joined today by the wonderful Andreena Leeanne - and this time we're talking about reflections, transparency, and the power of authentic conversation. In the days following the recording of our previous episode (go back and listen to us talking about Employee Networks now!!), Andreena and I spoke privately about some significant observations we both had surrounding the work we do and the conversations we have generally. So we thought what better thing to do than to record these too - and make it another public chat for you all to listen in on! So in this episode we talk all about the importance of promoting inclusion in every aspect of life, especially in our real-life interactions. Andreena shares her experiences at a staff network conference and highlights a transformative book by Cherron Inko-Tariah MBE. We also reflect on the critical role of emotional intelligence, particularly when faced with constructive criticism. Here are three key takeaways from our conversation: 1. Transparency and Authentic Conversations: We emphasize how feeling valued and heard can transform discussions and foster a more inclusive environment. 2. Continuous Professional Development: Andreena's dedication to self-investment not only benefits her work but also serves as an inspiration for others to continuously seek growth. 3. Acknowledging Multiple Truths: The concept of multiple truths coexisting challenges us to move beyond binary thinking, urging us to validate individual perspectives and personal truths. As you listen, we invite you to reflect on this: How can you create more inclusive and authentic conversations in your own life? Ready? Let's do it! You can connect with Andreena here... Instagram: @Andreena.Leeanne.Speaker LinkedIn: @AndreenaLeeanne Website: www.Andreena.co.uk Speaker bookings via Champion Speakers

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    The Impact of Employee Networks - with Andreena Leeanne

    Heads up - Episode 1 of 2... (we're trying something new!) In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I get into conversation Andreena Leeane on the impact of employee networks. We talk all about the benefits of creating spaces for marginalised groups, the significance of recognising privilege and the essential role of allies in creating inclusive environments. Through sharing her own personal experiences and work, Andreena brings attention to the daily challenges faced by marginalised communities and the vital importance of well-funded employee resource groups in advocating for change. Here are three key takeaways from our conversation: 1. Recognition and Advocacy It's crucial to recognise our own privileges and use them to advocate for those who may not have the same resources or opportunities. Andreena's personal example about speaking up for accessibility in public spaces is a reminder that our voices can make a difference. 2. The Role of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) ERGs are more than just safe spaces for marginalised employees; they are vital in shaping an organisation’s strategies and operational approaches, with inclusion in mind. However, as we explore, these groups often struggle with limited resources and a lack of proper support from their organisations. 3. Genuine Allyship Being an ally involves more than just joining a group; it's about genuine participation and supporting the cause without seeking personal recognition. It’s about listening, learning, and acting based on the needs of those you aim to support. As you listen to this episode, reflect on this question: How can you leverage your own privilege to support and advocate for more inclusive practices in your community and workplace? So sit back, relax, and settle down in whichever way works best for you, as I get into the the powers and challenges of employee networks with the fantastic Andreena Leeanne on "Speaking of Inclusion." Enjoy! Andreena can be contacted here... Instagram: @Andreena.Leeanne.Speaker LinkedIn: @AndreenaLeeanne Website: www.Andreena.co.uk Speaker bookings: via Champion Speakers

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    Pleasure & Asexuality - with Aubri Lancaster

    As we mark the start of Pride month this June, in today's episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I want to talk about the often misunderstood topic of asexuality with my fabulous guest, Aubri Lancaster. Aubri is a sex education specialist and a grey romantic asexual person who shares invaluable insights into the asexual community and its diverse experiences. We also talk a lot about pleasure, intimacy, and other human connections that influence the relationships we create, not only with other people but with ourselves too. In this episode, we also explore the findings of Doctor Megan Carroll’s study on pleasure for asexual people, discuss the importance of recognising nonsexual intimacy, and challenge societal norms around sex and relationships. We find our own pleasure in using a unique analogy for sex too... (that's your easter egg for this episode!) and we do this to highlight how pleasure and desire vary widely among individuals, emphasising that it's perfectly normal and valid for people to desire nonsexual forms of enjoyment and intimacy. Here are three key takeaways from our conversation: 1. Asexuality is a sexual orientation: We talk about the different ways asexual people experience sex and pleasure, giving a big ol' challenge to the idea that pleasure is solely linked to sexual activities. 2. Boundary and Communication: We talk about how we believe that understanding and communicating one's boundaries and sources of pleasure is essential for fostering healthy and fulfilling relationships. 3. Non-Hierarchical Relationships: We discuss the limitations of placing all emotional and social needs on one person and advocate for recognising the value of the diverse types of relationships are available to us all - regardless of our sexual orientation. As you listen, I invite you to reflect on this question: How can we better support and validate the various experiences of pleasure and intimacy that exist beyond societal expectations of sexual attraction and desire? So, you know the drill by now - get comfortable in whichever way works best for you, and get ready for a thought-provoking conversation that promises to expand your understanding and appreciation of human intimacy and connection. Let's talk pleasure.... Aubri Lancaster (Bri/she), BA², CSE is an AASECT and ANTE UP! Certified Sexuality Educator. As a Greyromantic Asexual, Aubri has lived experience and a connection to the Asexual and Aromantic communities that provides a unique perspective on the issues facing the changing landscape of sexuality and orientation. When not working, Aubri spends her time with her spouse, her friends, her 7 year old, and her two adorable Chihuahuas. You can connect with Aubri here: website: www.AceSexEducation.com Instagram: @AceSexEducation TikTok: @AceSexEducation LinkedIn: @AubriLancaster Facebook: @AubriLancasterSE

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    Acceptance without Understanding - with Cynthia Fortlage

    This week I am joined by the remarkable Cynthia Fortlage, a Belfast-born Canadian raised global gender diversity speaker and consultant, and we are getting into "Acceptance without Understanding." In this episode, Cynthia shares her wealth of knowledge and personal experiences touching on gender, identity, diversity, and the challenge of navigating societal norms. We discuss the complex layers of human identity and how understanding our interactions with each other can shape the way we start to create acceptance for each other - especially with people who are different to us. Three Key Takeaways from Today's Episode: 1. The Power of Acceptance: Cynthia emphasises the importance of creating environments where people are accepted even when they are not fully understood, proposing that acceptance can precede understanding if we're open to it, leading to healthier discussions. 2. Deconstructing Gender Perceptions: We explore how societal, cultural, and historical perceptions shape our views on gender and identity. Cynthia shares insights from her personal journey as a transgender woman and from her professional experiences, illustrating how new perspectives can deconstruct entrenched gender biases. 3. Impact of Societal Norms and Safety: The discussion also covers how societal norms influence individual behaviour and safety, especially relating to gender roles. Cynthia talks about her adjustment to loss of perceived male privileges and how this has influenced her understanding of safety and acceptance in various spaces. **Reflective Question for Our Listeners:** As you listen to today’s discussion, think about what it means to accept someone without fully understanding every aspect of their identity. Can you think of a time when you practiced acceptance, and what impact did this have on your relationship with that person or people? Fancy joining us for an entertaining conversation that will also challenges your norms and broaden your thinking? Of course you do! So welcome along...

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    Explained! In 10 or less... Conditional Empathy

    In this bite-sized episode of our "Explained! In 10 or less..." series, we're diving deep into the nuanced concept of conditional empathy. What it is, why we need to understand it, and how it can shape our behaviours. Here are three key takeaways from this episode: 1. Empathy vs. Conditional Empathy While empathy allows us to resonate with the experiences of others, conditional empathy highlights the biases that can restrict this natural response, demonstrating that our empathy is often influenced by our preconceived notions about others, or our capacity to find common ground. 2. Bias and Morality Our capacity for empathy can be shadowed by moral judgments and biases, whether we're conscious of them or not. 3. Global Empathy Imbalance We observe conditional empathy on a global scale, where international reactions to crises can be heavily influenced by the identities of the people involved. This imbalances the scale of empathy and calls for a deeper reflection on the narratives we engage with and the ones we overlook. As you listen to this episode, question how your own empathic responses are triggered or subdued... Now you understand it, can you think of a moment where you realise your empathy was conditional, and what internal triggers influenced that response? Ready to get into it?

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    Menopause Impacts Everyone - with Ruth Harrison-Swift and Brian Ludden

    In today's episode titled "Menopause impacts everyone," I am getting into conversation on a topic that quite literally affects people of all genders: menopause. I'm joined by Ruth Harrison-Swift and Brian Ludden of The Kaleidoscopes, as they help me unwrap the layers of understanding and supporting people through this completely natural yet totally overlooked experience. But the Kaleidoscopes are not just about menopause, they are about supporting all life transitions with an approach of inclusivity and compassion, and with a deep knowledge of neurodiversity, they align their services to the needs of their clients. But for this episode... we're definitely focusing on menopause. Why? Because, menopause is not an island exclusive to those who experience it firsthand; it's a pivotal life stage with significant ripples that touch intimate relationships, workplaces, and broader societal norms. In our discussion, three key takeaways stood out: 1. The cruciality of communication in navigating menopause. It's not just about weathering symptoms but understanding the emotional and physical changes that people endure. 2. The difference inclusion makes. Ruth and Brian underscore the importance of inclusivity in menopause discussions, considering cultural, racial, and gender diversity to ensure everyone's journey is respected and supported. 3. The role of education and advocacy. Normalising menopause dialogue in all spaces—be it at home or in the workplace—is a collective responsibility we can all embrace. As you listen to our conversation today, I'd like you to reflect on this question: How can we foster an environment, both in our personal lives and in society at large, where menopause is not a taboo but a topic of health and wellness we approach with kindness, knowledge, and openness? Ready to get learning? Let's do this! You can contact both Ruth and Brian via The Kaleidoscopes website - www.thekaleidoscopes.co.uk or you can email them on [email protected] [email protected]

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    Nature for Inclusion - with Heather Wright

    In today's episode, we have a fascinating conversation with Heather Wright, a nature-based coach, about using nature for inclusion. Heather is an Executive Coach with a passion for helping others develop and succeed. Heather combines her leadership skills, coaching experience, and love for the outdoors to guide individuals and help them connect with what truly matters to them. Heather believes in the power of nature to bring calmness, foster creativity, provide clarity, and build courage. In this episode Heather shares her insights on incorporating movement into the lives of individuals with ADHD, highlighting the benefits of physical activity for their thinking processes. From fidget toys and standing desks indoors, to breaks and walks outdoors, Heather explores how embracing movement can enhance creativity and focus. One key takeaway from this discussion is the importance of providing realistic and manageable options for activities, considering the specific needs of each individual, including those with mobility challenges. Heather also emphasises the significance of finding the right environment for different types of conversations, such as mid-year reviews or giving difficult feedback, and how taking these discussions outdoors can create a more relaxed and open atmosphere. Another key takeaway is understanding and acknowledging individual preferences and needs, including eye contact and movement, within leadership conversations. Heather encourages team leaders to incorporate these considerations into one-on-one meetings and team discussions, fostering inclusivity and understanding. Lastly, Heather highlights the power of nature in helping individuals connect with what is important to them and driving their careers in the desired direction. She shares her experiences conducting individual and group sessions, both indoors and outdoors, and the positive impact it has on building trust and open conversation. As you listen to this episode, reflect on how the power of nature be utilised in your conversations to foster inclusion and help individuals thrive? Join me in our conversation with Heather Wright as we dive deeper into the topic of using nature for inclusion. You can connect with Heather on LinkedIn or visit her website for more details on how to work with her.

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    What is Asexuality? - Explained! In 10 or less...

    This week we will be celebrating International Asexuality Day on April 6th - so today we're getting into it in preparation. What is asexuality? And why is it important to understand? As an Ace person, this is definitely a topic Katie is passionate about (pun intended)... Key takeaways from this episode are: 1. Asexuality, as a sexual orientation within the queer community, involves experiencing little or no sexual attraction. 2. Asexuality is a spectrum, encompassing various experiences and attitudes towards sex and sexual attraction, such as greysexual and demisexual identities. 3. Understanding asexuality challenges assumptions about relationships, attraction, and sexual orientation, and emphasises the importance of communication in defining and navigating our experiences and how we develop relationships. Reflection question: How can we create space for diverse experiences of attraction and sexual orientation within our understanding of relationships and inclusion? Intrigued? Join me as we explore the nuances of asexuality and consider how its understanding can enhance our journey towards a more inclusive society.

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    BTS bonus episode - with Katie Hunter-Waite

    🌟 Exciting BONUS content alert! 🌟 Hey there aspiring allies! I've got some behind-the-scenes goodness for you from my recent podcast episode with Katie Hunter White. 🎙️ We're talking about all the stuff that doesn't usually make it on air, and trust me, it's authentic and a little bit funny. Key Takeaways: Oh give over! There is nothing to take away from this!! Now, I'd love to hear from you: Do you want more of this behind-the-scenes fun on the podcast? How about sharing your own "oops" moments? Let's keep it real and have a bit of a laugh along the way. 🐿️

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    Loneliness Unmasked - with Katie Hunter-Waite

    In today's heartfelt episode, I’m joined by Katie Hunter-Waite, a workplace coach and founder of Coaching to Contribute, who is spearheading initiatives to combat the frequently misunderstood topic of loneliness. Together, we talk into the human desire for connection, exploring the subjective and unique experience that loneliness brings to each individual, and how it clashes with our innate desire for social fulfilment. Throughout our conversation, we consider the transient nature of loneliness, the catastrophic consequences of it in its chronic form, and how we as individuals, colleagues, and communities can become "loneliness allies." We also share the genius idea that is "Big Talk in Balham"... you heard it here first!! Here are three key takeaways from our discussion: 1. Loneliness is a universal feeling that, contrary to popular belief, is not simply about being alone. It’s a signal that our inherent need for connection is going unmet. 2. Recognising behaviours associated with loneliness, such as withdrawal or irritability, is vital in being supportive of those around us, especially in professional settings where the impact of loneliness can be significant on both individuals and organisational culture. 3. Embracing human connection – both with others and within ourselves – is instrumental in battling loneliness. This can manifest through various practices like volunteering, mindful solitude, and reducing digital distractions to create authentic and meaningful real-world connections. As you listen to our chat, I’d like you to reflect on the following question: How might my own biases and assumptions about loneliness be influencing my ability to connect with and support others around me who might be struggling in silence? Prepare to embrace empathy, shatter stigmas, and create new connections, as we take this journey into understanding loneliness not just as a feeling, but as a shared human condition that we can collectively respond to with compassion and active inclusion. Ready? Let's do this! Katie can be found on LinkedIn and her website Coaching to Contribute. This is where you can find more details about her upcomng courses and the Coffee & Connect event in South London (Yep - Big Talk in Balham!).

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    What is intersectionality? - Explained! In 10 or less...

    Today we are talking all about Intersectionality, a term that's being more widely used but might still be a bit fuzzy for some of you. So, let's unpack it together and understand where it came from and why it's crucial in our journey towards true inclusion. What will you learn? Key takeaway 1: Intersectionality is the intersection of oppressions that individuals face, and it recognises that we are not just one identity at a time. Key takeaway 2: Dr. Kimberle Crenshaw, who coined the term, saw the need to address the additional layers of racism faced by black women within the feminist movements of her time, highlighting the importance of considering the multiple oppressions that exist simultaneously. Key takeaway 3: Taking an intersectional approach is key to creating equitable and inclusive systems, as it moves beyond gender and addresses all aspects of humanity, combating oppressions through an intersectional lens. As usual, I invite you to reflect on this question: How are you considering intersectionality in your actions as aspiring allies? Now... sit back, relax, and let's get into intersectionality on the Speaking of Inclusion podcast.

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    Dads and Gender Equality - with Ian Dinwiddy

    In today's episode titled "Dads and Gender Equality," we delve deep into the potential that the role of fatherhood plays in achieving gender equality. I am joined by the fabulous Ian Dinwiddy, a dedicated fatherhood and flexible work advocate, who shares with us the importance of inclusive parenting and the pivotal role that workplaces play in this equation. Ian shares his vast expertise as a coach, mentoring businesses on the necessity of supporting new dads as part of their gender equality strategies. Not only does he discuss the societal implications of extended paternity leave, but he also highlights the mental health benefits and the positive impact on women's careers that can arise when men engage more actively at home. Three key takeaways from this episode include: 1. The transformative power of extended parental leave not only for attracting talent but also for shaking the core values of a company towards more inclusivity. 2. The importance of breaking down traditional gender roles and acknowledging the growing desire among men to participate in caregiving and foster balanced relationships. 3. The intersection of gender equality with mental health, as well as the underestimated financial and social advantages that come with shared parenting responsibilities. As you listen, I encourage you to reflect on this question: What steps can we take within our own organisations or personal lives to challenge and change the cultural and structural stereotypes around fatherhood and caregiving? So settle down in whichever way works best for you, and enjoy Ian's insights and actionable advice on nurturing equality both at home and in the workplace, right here on "Speaking of Inclusion..." Ian Dinwiddy can be found on LinkedIn and the Inspiring Dads website. He also mentioned the books: Equal Parent by Paul Morgan-Bentley Dads Don't Baby Sit by James Miller

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    What is inclusion? - Explained! In 10 or less...

    In today's episode, I finally got around to answering my title questions... "What is inclusion?". I know - it took me a while - but here we are! As I get into the topic of inclusion specifically, they key takeaways really are the importance of psychological safety, building trust, and actively seeking and embracing feedback to foster an inclusive culture. Why not have a think about these questions as you listen: How can we intentionally create spaces where everyone feels heard and valued? And what can you do within your sphere of influence to remove barriers to authenticity and foster a more inclusive environment? So please, join me as I finally get around to talking about inclusion... on Speaking of Inclusion!

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"Speaking of Inclusion..." explores the role of inclusion within society, workplaces and beyond. Listen along to thought-provoking conversations with special guests from a range of industries, delving into topics such as gender identity, anti-racism, inclusive recruitment, and of course… the role of allies. You can expect insightful discussions, practical advice, and inspiring stories that will take you from being simply being curious to confidently navigating conversations about diversity and equality. Hosted by Katie Allen, Inclusion Coach and TEDx speaker, and creator of Allyship In Action.

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