PODCAST · technology
Star42
by Jace & Michael
Relaxed two guys talking about tech
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Episode 17, Recorded 2026/04/10: Navigating AI, Developer Tools, and Platform Evolution
Join Michael and Jace as they discuss the latest trends in AI, platform development, and community-driven content. They explore how AI inference is reshaping enterprise workflows, the evolution of ServiceNow’s UI and development environment, and the importance of simplicity and longevity in tech solutions.Key topics include:The upcoming NullStack Alpha event and its community focus on technical discussionsThe benefits of short, developer-focused content and idea pitches in tech communitiesHighlights from Nvidia GTC 2023: advancements in AI, robotics, and inference chipsLocal inference models vs. reliance on cloud-based AI services and their resilienceThe evolution of ServiceNow’s UI engines: Jelly, Service Portal, and UI BuilderBest practices for building AI integrations: scope, simplicity, and longevityThe expanding role of AI in enterprise workflows and the strategic licensing shiftsThe significance of understanding foundational technologies like Jelly and AngularJS for future-proofingThe transition to a more developer-centric ServiceNow platform with Studio and CLI improvementsDiscussions on AI licensing, ROI considerations, and the future of automation and job securityPersonal updates and community events, including Knowledge 26 and upcoming meetups
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Episode 16 - 2026/02/27 - AI, Stocks & ServiceNow Innovations
Exploring AI, ServiceNow Innovations, and Tech Trends with Michael and JaceJoin Michael and Jace in this engaging episode as they dive into recent developments in AI, ServiceNow's evolving platform, stock market insights, and future tech ideas. Whether you're into enterprise automation or speculative projects, there's something here for every tech enthusiast.Main Topics Covered:The rise of autonomous workforce and AI-driven automationServiceNow's product updates, vibe coding, and browser conceptsStock market movements, CEO stock buying, and SaaS industry trendsConference highlights: Knowledge 2026, Nvidia, and Null Stack AlphaInnovative ideas like a dedicated ServiceNow browser and custom extensionsReflections on leadership, company investments, and the tech ecosystemTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction and recent busy weeks02:19 - Commitment to listening more and advice from Hamilton and Socrates03:45 - Upcoming conferences: Knowledge, Nvidia in March04:38 - ServiceNow's recent stock activities and CEO purchases06:25 - The significance of insider stock filings and company value09:12 - The shift to AI and ServiceNow's autonomous work initiatives12:06 - Use of AI in IT service management and historical context from 201315:33 - Impact of AI on help desks and automation tools’ readiness18:01 - The evolution of virtual agents and large language models in ServiceNow20:27 - Company staffing strategies amid AI transformation and workforce demographics22:42 - Dreams of enterprise browsers and tight coupling with platforms33:56 - Vibe coding projects: building custom Chrome extensions and UI solutions37:12 - Thoughts on browser control, security, impersonation, and developer tools43:09 - Final reflections on reimagining browser experiences and the potential of enterprise OSes48:07 - Closing remarks and upcoming events: Null Stack Alpha on April 16Resources & Links:Nvidia GTC Conference MarchServiceNow Official WebsiteGitHub - Echelon AI Model ProviderOpenCode Terminal AI ToolNull Stack Alpha Conference - April 16Connect with the Hosts & Guests:Michael Slabodnick - LinkedInJace - TwitterThis episode offers insights into current tech innovations and ideas for future projects. Stay tuned for more in-depth discussions on AI, enterprise platforms, and creative development strategies.
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Episode 15 - Recorded 2026/01/27 - SKO recap, Weezer, Nulledge Alpha, Vegas, and AI
In this episode, Michael and Jace share their insights from the recent ServiceNow Sales Kickoff, discuss the evolving landscape of Vegas conferences, and explore the impact of AI and market dynamics on tech companies. They reflect on personal experiences, industry shifts, and the future of AI integration in enterprise platforms.Key Topics:The scale and significance of ServiceNow's Sales Kickoff event, including speaker highlights like Bill McDermott and Dave WrightThe changing social scene in Vegas post-COVID, with insights on hotel prices and nightlifePersonal stories about attending concerts like Weezer and Rob Zombie, highlighting generational reflectionsThe role of AI in enterprise workflow optimization and industry bubblesThe dynamics of tech stock valuations versus real company performanceThe rise of open-source AI tools like Claude bot and self-hosted modelsChallenges in digital ecosystems, including Apple’s ecosystem lock-in and parental controlsThe importance of community and networking at large industry eventsTimestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and episode overview01:54 - Reflections on ServiceNow sales kickoff size and significance04:04 - Vegas conference scene: costs, nightlife, and changing atmosphere07:30 - Personal concert experiences: Weezer and Rob Zombie performances12:23 - Keynotes at events: Bill McDermott’s storytelling and industry vision20:08 - AI in workflow automation and industry adoption trends25:28 - Market valuation versus company fundamentals in tech stocks27:16 - Overview of Claude bot and self-hosted AI models30:24 - Ecosystem lock-in issues: Apple and Android parental controls33:00 - The vital role of community and face-to-face connections at events35:41 - Upcoming Nulledge events and networking opportunities
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Episode 14, Part 2 - Recorded January 16, 2026 - Social Unrest, Craziness, and Community
In this episode of Star 42, hosts Michael and Jace dive into a range of topics, starting with personal updates and reflections on recent events. Michael shares his excitement about his new role as a solution architect, while Jace discusses the challenges of living in Minneapolis amidst current societal tensions. The conversation shifts to broader themes of societal issues, including the historical cycles of crises and the need for collective action in times of distress. They explore the impact of corporate greed on essential services like healthcare and education, advocating for a shift towards nonprofit models to better serve society's needs. As the discussion progresses, they touch on the importance of community and the potential for technology, particularly AI, to enhance workplace efficiency, albeit with a cautionary note about the slow pace of adoption among people.
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Episode 14, Part 1 - Recorded January 16, 2026 - Vacation Summaries, OSU Football, and a New Role
In this episode, Michael and Jace catch up on recent events and discuss their family vacation to Disney World. They also delve into the legacy of Ohio State football and its coaching history. The conversation delves into the speaker's passion for college football, particularly his experiences with Ohio State and Michigan. It also explores the evolution of the college football playoff system, highlighting the changes and impact on team rankings and championships.TakeawaysFamily vacation to Disney WorldOhio State football and coaching legacy Passion for college footballEvolution of college football playoff systemChapters00:00 Ohio State Football and Coaching Legacy19:46 Passion for College Football24:57 Evolution of College Football Playoff System
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Episode 13 - Recorded December 12th, 2025 - More AI, Job Market, and Community
In this episode, Michael and Jace discuss a variety of topics ranging from personal health goals and winter activities to insights on the upcoming Knowledge 26 conference and the evolving role of AI in the ServiceNow ecosystem. They delve into the challenges faced by the ServiceNow community, including job market dynamics and the importance of user groups and community. Yes, this summary is the AI generated version because, quite frankly, it comes out pretty good.
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Episode 12 - November 21, 2025 - Thanksgiving, Build Agent, AI, Oh My!
In this episode, Michael and Jace discuss a variety of topics ranging from their experiences with Star Wars movies and Thanksgiving traditions to the challenges of using Build Agent as part of ServiceNow's pro dev experience They step outside of the tech world as the discuss their perspectives on the holidays, how consumerism is has shaped the world, and the importance of financial awareness to "beat the system" at its own game. They even take a few minutes to discuss their personal interests like sailing and what each thinks about the future of AI.
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Episode 11 - November 7th, 2025 - Build Agent & IDE, questioning the AI Bubble, Linux for PC
Join Jace and Michael as we talk about what went into the recent Bat Mitzvah of Michael's daughter, some of the new Elgato equipment that Michael's using now for the podcast, some feedback on the ServiceNow Build Agent as part of the ServiceNow IDE, some possible outcomes of the AI Bubble if it's getting ready to burst, and an idea that Michael's had for a Microsoft commercial with Microsoft Lens.As always, conversation is relaxed, open, and all too often ends up going down into a rabbit hole of technical knowledge or history.
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Episode 10 - October 17th, 2025 - Null Edge Wrap Up & Debrief
We're back with Episode 10 of Star 42! On this episode, we give a wrap-up and debrief to the absolute success of the Null Edge conference that started with just an idea at the ServiceNow Knowledge 25 conference!We get to hear about the highs, the lows, and Jace's thoughts on what the future could look like for future community driven events such as this.And finally, we get to a little reminiscing of past Knowledge conferences and which conference had the best party! (Hint: It wasn't in Vegas)
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Episode 9 - October 3rd, 2025 - Countdown to Null Edge, Knowledge 26, and Usual Updates
In episode 9 we talk about some of the Jewish holidays that Michael celebrates, updates to the Null Edge conference coming up soon (October 17th!), and (yet again) discussing the eventual demise of Workflow Editor in ServiceNow with the Zurich release. Speaking of Zurich - we also discuss some of the updates in the release, as well as Michael not quite remembering if there's a new capability to create UI Builder Components (he swears he saw someone post something on LinkedIn, by that one person that one month and on that one day).For those that prefer the AI version: In this episode of Star 42, Michael and Jace discuss various topics related to ServiceNow, including the upcoming Knowledge 26 conference, the CreatorCon event, and the latest updates from the Zurich release. They share personal anecdotes, insights on AI enhancements, and the transition from Workflow Editor to Flow Designer. The conversation also touches on the importance of documenting knowledge and the potential for future content creation.Links to discussed content:Knowledge 26 Speaker Submission SiteThe Null Edge ConferenceElle Cordova on TikTokElle Cordova on YouTube
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Episode 8 - September 19th 2025 - Jace's Philosophy, ServiceNow's Palm Beach Office, Apps by Jace
In episode 8 we get philosophical about being positive to make things happen in life, dive into the news of ServiceNow's newly announced West Palm Beach campus, go down the rabbit hole of when Michael used to work in California as a camp counselor, and discuss the Null Edge conference that's coming up in just a few short weeks!As mentioned, here are links to items discussed in the episode, so be sure to check these out!https://code.jace.pro - a collaborative code editor based on firepadhttps://minutes.jace.pro - a place to generate meeting notes and way to export to markdownhttps://writer.jace.pro - an alternative to hemingwayapp to suggest edits on text to make that easier to readhttps://emoji.jace.pro - an alternative to emojipedia, i use it often enough i wanted my ownhttps://workflow.jace.pro - a place to store some mermaidjs diagrams and editorChuck Tomasi and his new t-shirt designs https://www.teepublic.com/user/d20-studio
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