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Stock 'N Roll
by Christoffer Herheim
Stock 'N Roll is dedicated to unraveling the complexities of equity compensation and highlighting the challenges and best practices that shape the industry. We engage in meaningful conversations with industry experts and thought leaders, aiming to provide actionable insights and strategies for professionals across all levels.
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Are Your Equity Incentives Competitive? The Art and Science of Benchmarking with Michael Sterchi
This is the first out of two, in our short series on Benchmarking. In this episode, we're talking about benchmarking in general, what it is, why you need it and what competitive equity packages actually look like in the market. We even discuss some key differences between the US and here in Europe. The host and CEO of Optio Christoffer Herheim is joined by Michael Sterchi in Zurich who is a leading expert in equity incentive plan design, with extensive experience advising companies across Europe on everything from LTI structures to broad-based employee share plans. Whether you're implementing your first equity plan or rethinking an existing one, this conversation is packed with practical advice.For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/equity_incentives_competitive_benchmarkingJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Communicating Equity Programs: Insights from Deloitte's Jane Darlington
When organizations design equity incentive plans, they typically focus on the technical details: vesting schedules, strike prices, and regulatory compliance. But according to Jane Darlington, this approach misses a critical component that can determine whether your program succeeds or fails entirely. Listen to the episode to learn how to build a communication plan that creates understanding, builds trust and connects people to their stake in the company's success. "Please note: This podcast content is for informational purposes only and is not intended as professional advice. Always consult qualified legal, tax, and financial advisors for guidance specific to your situation."For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/why-communication-makes-or-breaks-equity-programsJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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A Deep Dive into the UK’s Leading Tax-Advantaged Share Plans with Chris Fallon
In our latest Stock 'N Roll podcast episode, we sat down with Chris Fallon, Legal Director at Tapestry Compliance, to demystify two of the most prominent all-employee schemes in the UK: the Share Incentive Plan (SIP) and the Save-As-You-Earn (SAYE) plan. For those living or operating in the UK, understanding these plans is crucial for optimizing financial benefits related to employee ownership. Tune in to the episode to take a closer look at what was discussed in this enlightening session.For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/sip-saye-with-chris-fallonJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Understanding the Evolving Landscape of Equity Compensation in Recruitment with Tor Daneshmand
In this episode of Stock 'N Roll, we sat down with Tor Daneshmand, CEO and co-founder of Amby, an embedded recruitment company at the forefront of these changes. Tor brings unique insights into how equity is being wielded as a recruitment tool across different markets, from the mature landscapes of the US and UK to the evolving Nordic region.We'll dive into the art and science of building compelling compensation packages, explore how candidate expectations vary based on risk tolerance and life stage, and uncover the challenges companies face when trying to communicate equity's true value. Whether you're a founder crafting your first equity program or a seasoned executive refining your talent strategy, this conversation offers actionable insights for navigating today's complex compensation landscape.For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/understanding-the-evolving-landscape-of-equity-compensation-in-recruitmentJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Designing Global Broad-Based Equity Plans: Insights from Deloitte’s Experts
In this episode of Stock 'N Roll, we sat down in Deloitte’s London office with Lucy Hovland and Anita Grant—two seasoned leaders from Deloitte’s Equity and Incentives practice—to unpack the intricacies of designing global broad-based equity plans.As equity compensation continues to evolve, especially in the post-IPO tech and fintech landscape, companies are thinking bigger—and broader—about how to include more employees across jurisdictions in share plans. But what does it actually take to get this right? "Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered professional legal, tax, or financial advice. Please consult with qualified advisors regarding your specific circumstances." For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/designing-global-broad-based-equity-plans-insights-from-deloittes-expertsJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Bridging US and European Equity Compensation: Insights from Carine Schneider
In this episode we're thrilled to have Carine Schneider joining us.Carine as one of the most experienced professionals in the equity compensation domain world wide – and her US view of things is something that we are ready to dive into. Carine will share insights on the cross-border challenges companies face when expanding internationally, the emerging trends in private market liquidity – also with a US vs Europe view.Whether you're a European company looking to crack the US market, an American firm navigating European regulations, or just trying to understand where equity compensation is headed next, this episode is packed with expert insights and practical takeaways.So let's dive into market evolution, regulatory complexities, innovative solutions, and so much more!For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/bridging-us-and-european-equity-compensationJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Explore the Perceived Value Gap in Equity Compensation with Stephan Hostettler
What Is Your Equity Really Worth? Why do recipients see a different value than you give? In this episode, we will dive into the challenge of how people perceive their equity.In the latest episode of our podcast series Stock 'N Roll, we had the pleasure of hosting Dr. Stephan Hostettler, the founder and managing partner of HCM International, an independent advisory firm he established in 2002.In the world of executive and employee compensation, there's a fundamental disconnect that many companies struggle with: the gap between what equity compensation is actually worth and what recipients perceive it to be worth. This challenge has become increasingly critical as companies rely more heavily on stock options, performance shares, and other equity-based incentives to attract, retain, and motivate talent.For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/what-is-your-equity-really-worthJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Cross-Border Compliance: Managing IPO Share Custody with Michael Sterchi
In the latest episode of our podcast series Stock 'N Roll, we had the pleasure of hosting Michael Sterchi, a seasoned expert with over 25 years in equity-based compensation consulting.This episode covers how companies need to restructure their equity compensation planning an IPO, implement professional plan administration, and navigate the maze of compliance requirements that come with public markets. Whether you're preparing for an IPO or just curious about equity transformation, this conversation offers expert guidance on turning private shares into public market success.For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/cross-border-compliance-managing-ipo-share-custodyJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Post-IPO Incentive Programs: Key Considerations for Success with Dirk Besse
In this episode, we return to Berlin with Dirk Besse, a seasoned lawyer from Morrison & Foerster to explore the complexities of redesigning incentive programs for companies undergoing an IPO. Building on our previous discussion about pre-IPO considerations, we dive into the critical aspects of transitioning employee compensation structures when a company goes public, including timing considerations, stakeholder management, and retention strategies for key talent. Dirk shares insights on the fundamental differences between public and private company incentive designs, highlighting the increased regulatory constraints and the importance of flexibility in program development. For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/post-ipo-incentive-programsJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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From Private to Public: Mastering the IPO Listing Process for Growing Companies with Sarah Suter
In this episode, we're happy to welcome Sarah Suter from the Swiss Stock Exchange (SIX). As an analyst and relationship manager guiding companies through one of their most transformative journeys, Sarah brings invaluable expertise on the IPO process.Sarah will walk us through the compelling reasons companies choose to list on public exchanges, the critical preparation steps that maximize success, and the ongoing responsibilities that come with public company status. She'll also share insights on how IPOs can affect equity compensation strategies and talent retention – topics at the heart of what we explore on Stock 'N Roll.For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/from-private-to-public-mastering-the-ipo-listing-process-for-growing-companiesJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Designing Equity Programs for Pre-IPO Growth Companies with Dirk Besse
This episode tackles the fascinating world of pre-IPO equity programs and the infamous "pina colada threat" - when your key talent cashes out post-IPO and heads straight to retirement.We're joined by special guest Dirk Besse, a seasoned lawyer from Morrison & Foerster, who shares invaluable insights on designing equity incentives that balance employee motivation with long-term company growth, particularly in Germany and across Europe.Whether you're a founder preparing for an exit, an executive designing retention strategies, or an employee navigating your own equity package, this episode offers practical wisdom for the entire pre-IPO journey. For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/designing-equity-programs-for-pre-ipo-growth-companiesJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Unlocking the Potential of Norwegian Tax-Favored Options with Sverre Hveding
Equity compensation is a powerful tool for attracting and retaining talent, but structuring it effectively—especially in startups—comes with challenges. In this episode, we sat down with tax law expert Sverre Hveding to break down Norway’s tax-favored options program and its recent updates. Sverre, a specialist in Norwegian and International tax law, advises clients on corporate transactions, group reorganizations, and cross-border investments, with extensive experience across industries such as finance, real estate, and private equity.With new eligibility criteria set to take effect in March 2025, more startups can now benefit from deferred taxation and capital gains treatment, making equity incentives more attractive than ever. We explore the key advantages of tax-favored options, compare alternative incentive models, and outline best practices for implementation.Listen to the full episode to stay ahead of the curve on startup equity incentives!For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/unlocking-the-potential-of-norwegian-tax-favored-optionsJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Decoding IFRS2 and Navigating the challenges of valuation models with Christian Hyldig
In this episode we have Christian Hyldig with us—an expert in compensation and benefits, financial reporting, and long-term incentive plans. As a Director at AON and a seasoned professional with experience at Morgan Stanley, Christian brings a wealth of knowledge on IFRS 2 and its impact on equity compensation. In this episode, we unravel the complexities of IFRS 2, exploring how companies account for share-based payments and the challenges of valuation models like Black-Scholes and Monte Carlo. Whether you're a finance professional or an equity plan administrator, this discussion will equip you with the insights needed to navigate the evolving landscape of equity compensation. For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/decoding-ifrs2-key-insights-on-equity-compensation-and-valuationJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Equity Incentives in Sweden: Regulations, Tax Strategies & ESG Trends with Stefan Sundell
In this episode, we explore the complexities of equity incentives in Sweden—a market with unique regulatory requirements and evolving compensation trends. Our guest for this episode is Stefan Sundell, an industry expert with decades of experience in structuring global equity programs. Together, we’ll unpack companies' challenges when implementing incentive plans in Sweden, from navigating shareholder approval rules to optimizing tax efficiency. We’ll also explore the growing influence of ESG targets and discuss how multinational companies can adapt their plans for Swedish employees.Whether you're a startup, a multinational, or simply curious about the Swedish equity landscape, this episode is packed with practical insights. Let’s get started!For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/exploring-the-landscape-of-equity-incentives-in-swedenJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Navigating Pay Transparency with Petri Sallinen
In this episode, we’re joined by Petri Sallinen, a seasoned leader in Total Rewards and Equal Pay, with extensive experience in both global organizations and consultancy. Together, we explore the transformative impact of pay transparency, from its role in shaping organizational culture to its implications for equity compensation and share plans across regions. Petri shares his insights on why transparency is poised to become one of the most significant shifts in our careers and what businesses need to know to stay ahead. Tune in for a conversation packed with actionable strategies and thought-provoking ideas!For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/pay-transparency-biggest-shift-in-rewardsJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Introducing Stock 'N Roll
Welcome to Stock 'N Roll—your backstage pass to the world of equity compensation! The host Christoffer Herheim, CEO of Optio Incentives, is thrilled to take through this exciting journey. At Stock 'N Roll, we unravel the complexities of equity compensation, from stock options to employee incentives, making sense of the challenges and exploring best practices that shape this fascinating industry. But don’t worry—it’s not all numbers and jargon. We keep things lively, approachable, and, yes, even fun! Why did we create this podcast? After years of helping companies manage over 1,000 equity programs across the globe, we realized that these critical conversations were often limited to boardrooms. With Stock 'N Roll, we want to change that—creating a space where fresh ideas and real-world experiences can be shared, inspiring professionals at all levels to better understand and navigate equity compensation. Each episode features engaging conversations with industry rockstars and thought leaders. We’ll dive into real stories, actionable insights, and practical strategies you can take back to your team. Whether you’re a seasoned HR professional, a CFO, or just curious about equity management, there’s something here for you. Join Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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Global Share Plans with Chris Fallon
Employee share plans are effective tools for fostering alignment and engagement within organizations, but managing them across multiple jurisdictions presents unique challenges. From navigating tax regulations and cultural perceptions of equity to addressing administrative complexity, implementing these plans requires strategic planning and adaptability.This podcast explores insights shared by Chris Fallon, Legal Director at Tapestry Compliance, highlighting key trends such as broader employee participation, the rise of purchase-and-match models, and the preference for simplicity and transparency. It also delves into tax complexities, regional regulatory variations, and balancing global consistency with local customization.By prioritizing stakeholder collaboration, clear communication, and regular plan evaluation, companies can design impactful global share plans that drive long-term success while navigating a highly complex landscape.For more informationCheck our website: https://www.optioincentives.com/stock-n-rollFollow Optio on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optio-incentivesRead the blog: https://www.optioincentives.com/resource-hub/navigating-global-employee-share-plansJoin Stock 'N Roll with Christoffer Herheim, CEO and co-founder of Optio, as we break down what works—and what doesn’t—in equity compensation, with insights you can act on.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Stock 'N Roll is dedicated to unraveling the complexities of equity compensation and highlighting the challenges and best practices that shape the industry. We engage in meaningful conversations with industry experts and thought leaders, aiming to provide actionable insights and strategies for professionals across all levels.
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