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The Backstage Pass Podcast: Dentistry’s Playbook for Scaling Private Practices & DSOs

Real strategies from the dental industry’s most forward-thinking founders, CEOs, and practice-growth experts.The Backstage Pass Podcast brings the entire dental industry exactly what it needs to grow, scale, and thrive. Every episode features proven strategies, fresh ideas, and actionable solutions shared by founders, CEOs, executives, and practice-growth experts who live by the values of kindness, abundance, and fun.This is the podcast for private practice dentists, emerging groups, DSOs, dental professionals, and industry partners who want to think bigger and perform at their highest level. You will hear from trusted dental companies, innovative service providers, and select DSOs that create career paths and partnership opportunities for doctors ready for their next chapter.Backstage Pass members are some of the most respected and forward-thinking leaders in dentistry. Together they mastermind, colla

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    How Coordinated Planning Saves Dentists Time, Taxes, And Stress

    What if the biggest threat to your wealth isn’t the market, but the way your advice is organized? We sit down with Tim McNeely—“the dental wealth guy,” married to a practicing dentist—to unpack why fragmented guidance from multiple advisors can quietly erode 20 to 30 percent of your net worth over time. Tim shares how coordinating tax, retirement plan design, investment strategy, and legal planning through a single blueprint gives dentists more time, more money, and more confidence.We dig into the three costly leaks most dentists face: spending hours DIY-ing financial decisions, overpaying in taxes and plan fees, and living with shaky confidence because nothing is tied together. Tim explains how to audit and optimize your qualified plans—401(k)s and cash balance plans—to reduce costs and increase deductions, all while aligning with practice cash flow. He also lays out a pragmatic approach to estate planning, from wills and revocable trusts to beneficiary cleanups and asset protection, so your family and practice are protected if life takes a turn.Then we reframe wealth management as more than investments. Tim breaks it into investment consulting, advanced planning—wealth enhancement, wealth transfer, wealth protection, and philanthropic giving—and relationship management. That last piece is the general contractor role that gets your CPA, attorney, banker, and plan provider speaking the same language. We close with simple next steps: get into a smart community, request a second opinion, and stress test your current plan the way top family offices do, before the market or a crisis does it for you.If this conversation helped you see the gaps in your plan, follow the show, share it with a colleague, and leave a quick review. Your feedback helps more dentists find strategies that save time, cut taxes, and turn practice success into lasting personal wealth.

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    Goodwill Is Fragile: Build Deals That Keep Relationships Intact

    The smoothest dental practice transitions are built long before anyone signs—and they live or die on details most people skip. We sit down with attorney Cecilia Cohen to unpack the real risks in buying or selling a practice and the practical steps that protect your money, your peace of mind, and the goodwill that keeps patients coming back.Cecilia brings the rare blend of legal precision and owner empathy, forged by launching her own firm and guiding thousands of deals. We dig into buyer and seller fears, then turn them into clear contract language: what “unfinished work” actually means, how to structure fair redo policies, and why representations and warranties are the buyer’s true protection. You’ll hear where contracts usually fall short, how to address patient credits and copays without triggering a mass exodus, and the specific promises a seller should make to reflect the real state of the practice.Then we spotlight the silent deal-breaker: your lease. From demolition clauses and assignment fees to relocation rights and personal guarantees, we explore the landlord “gotchas” that can undermine a seven-figure purchase. Cecilia shows how early lease review, clear assignment terms, and thoughtful contingencies keep your closing on track. We also look ahead to the rise of multi-location and multi-specialty groups, outlining partner agreements that define decision rights, equity mechanics, and dispute paths so growth doesn’t fracture relationships.What ties it all together is a collaborative approach that avoids ego battles and preserves goodwill. When both sides feel respected, the seller’s endorsement stays strong, staff retention improves, and patients trust the brand through the handoff. If you’re planning a transition—or simply want to future-proof your practice—this conversation gives you the roadmap. Listen, share with a colleague, and subscribe to get more strategies that protect your practice and your future.

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    How Integrity Practice Sales Protects Dentists In High-Stakes Transitions

    Selling a practice shouldn’t feel like gambling with your life’s work. Trevor from Integrity Practice Sales joins us to pull back the curtain on how values, pre-diligence, and buyer education turn a stressful exit into a confident transition. We talk frankly about inflated valuations, unclear timelines, and why so many deals fall apart late—and how a kinder, more rigorous approach protects your price, your team, and your reputation.Trevor’s story runs deep: a multigenerational dental family, a company founded to fix a broken brokerage experience, and a pivotal moment where they chose core values—kindness and active listening—over short-term revenue. That decision shapes everything from who they hire to how they prepare listings. Instead of throwing a practice on a site and hoping for a bite, they “make the market”: realistic pricing, full pre-diligence, and equipping buyers to step into ownership with real competence. The payoff is cleaner offers, faster timelines, and matches that honor the seller’s legacy.We also scan the next five years. Despite years of “silver tsunami” chatter, practice values remain resilient, and owner-operators still win when they level up hours, systems, and patient experience. DSOs aren’t the end of private practice; they’re competition that sharpens strategy. The sweet spot is the emerging group—two to three locations with shared services and smart associates. Scaling isn’t only about EBITDA, either. It can mean more time, less drama, and confidence to take a real vacation. Whether you’re 36 months from exit or gearing up for growth, Trevor outlines practical steps: clean financials, lease clarity, documented production, associate plans, and a buyer fit that protects people as much as price.If you’re ready to plan a sale without surprises—or to grow in a way that buys you freedom—this conversation will give you the blueprint and the confidence to act. Subscribe, share with a colleague who’s thinking about selling or scaling, and leave a review to tell us what you want us to cover next.

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    Why Dentists Don’t Have To Overpay For Credit Card Processing Anymore

    If two to four percent of your collections are disappearing into card fees, you’re paying for dentistry’s most expensive habit. We sat down with Nelson Martin from Aligned Payments to unpack a smarter way to run money through your practice: integrated merchant services designed specifically for dental teams, not generic retail. The result is a leaner checkout, clearer books, and a real shot at cutting processing expense by up to ninety percent with compliant dual pricing.We dig into the nuts and bolts of how this works day to day. Nelson explains why true PMS integration matters, how it removes duplicate entry, and what a waterfall approach to consumer financing does for acceptance. Instead of one lender and a coin flip, applications move across tiers from prime to alternative, driving 80 to 90 percent approvals so more treatment gets scheduled and more revenue lands in your account. We also demystify “surcharging” and dual pricing, covering what’s compliant, what patients see, and how to keep front-desk conversations simple and transparent.Change can feel like a burden, so we push for specifics on rollout. Expect a week or two of hands-on support, direct phone access, and quick training until the new flow becomes muscle memory. For multi-location groups and ambitious solo owners, those savings compound into six figures and flow straight to EBITDA—fuel for hiring, tech upgrades, and better patient experiences. If your merchant services were set up years ago, odds are you’re stuck with legacy fees and clunky tools. It’s time to revisit the stack, run a free analysis, and reclaim margin without disrupting care.If you found this helpful, follow the show, share it with a colleague who handles your front desk or finances, and leave a quick review so more dental teams can find it. Ready for a numbers-backed checkup on your payments? Reach out and let’s see what you can save.

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    How A Practice Performance Platform Doubled A Valuation

    What if you could open one platform and instantly see the few levers that will unlock real growth across your group? That’s the promise Vincent “Vinny” Cardillo brings to the table: unify practice management, phones, HR, and financials into a practice performance platform that turns scattered reports into confident action. No fluff—just clean data, clear priorities, and measurable progress that owners, operators, and clinicians can trust.We walk through the real pain points that stall DSOs and emerging groups: inconsistent metrics, “plug-and-play” dashboards that don’t match the source system, and the impossible task of holding teams accountable without a single source of truth. Vinny explains why deep onboarding audits matter, how benchmarked KPIs expose the right problems, and why your goal is either too high or you have an actual issue to fix. From missed calls and hygiene reactivation to provider productivity and turnover, we map the signals that drive top-line revenue and protect margin.You’ll hear a standout case study where a single-site giant moved from a valuation in the high twenties to fifty million by tightening nine targeted areas—proof that sale readiness is really system readiness. We also get tactical about infrastructure: monthly P&Ls by the fifteenth, centralized vs decentralized decisions, and hiring operators who can build from scratch instead of relying on big-company playbooks. Most importantly, we return to the human core of dentistry: growing doctors and teams. Data is the compass; people are the engine. Get that flywheel turning and you scale without letting one hero office bankroll four underperformers.Looking to scale with confidence instead of chaos? Tap play, subscribe for more candid growth tactics, and leave a review with the one metric you’ll fix first. Your future valuation—and your sleep—will thank you.

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    Scaling Dentistry Works When Systems, Not Heroes, Carry The Load

    What if growth didn’t mean losing your soul? We sit down with Colin Barbaro, a second-generation dentist who, alongside his brother, built a ten-practice group on one simple idea: we don’t treat teeth, we treat people. From late-night cleanups in a newly acquired office to building centralized systems that actually work, this is a candid look at how real scaling happens without turning patients or providers into numbers.Colin walks us through the messy middle from one to five locations—when likability and chairside charisma stop scaling and systems have to take over. He shares how the team moved from constant firefighting to standardization and centralization, and why the right regional hires are less about titles and more about taking the right problems off the founders’ plates. We dig into AI’s immediate wins around insurance and financial clarity, then pivot to the human reality: provider happiness is the new constraint. Flexible schedules, meaningful culture, and continuity of care aren’t nice-to-haves; they’re the strategy.Mentorship is the differentiator. Colin explains why emerging groups that still practice can give associates what they truly want: hands-on guidance in clinical decision-making, schedule design, and the emotional load of tough cases. For owners eyeing a second location, the advice is direct—know your why, because two practices aren’t an endpoint; they’re a test of whether you really want to build. And underneath the tactics is a thread that runs through every story: start with why, define your own scoreboard, and build a place where growth and positivity are nonnegotiable.If you care about relationship-based dentistry, scaling systems that support people, and turning a practice into a platform for better care and better lives, this conversation will stick with you. Subscribe, share with a colleague who’s thinking about their second office, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway. What’s your why?

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    How To Sell Your Dental Practice Without Losing Your Soul

    Thinking about selling your dental practice but unsure where to start? We sit down with Austin, a former DSO buy-side operator turned dentist advocate, to unpack a clear, values-first roadmap that protects your legacy while maximizing your exit. He pulls back the curtain on timelines, deal structures, and the “speed dating” phase with DSOs, explaining how to avoid red flags and why cultural fit often matters more than the biggest offer on the table.We get practical fast. Austin outlines how early preparation—clean books, tax strategy, KPI tracking, and targeted operational tweaks—can lift EBITDA and multiply value at closing. He explains realistic timing: one to two months of prep, a rapid market period meeting multiple partners, and two to three months of diligence and integration planning. He also addresses what life looks like after the wire: minimizing disruption for patients, keeping your team engaged, and working productively with a partner for three to five years. Measurable success isn’t just cash; it’s stability, satisfaction, and a practice that still feels like home.We also tackle a big misconception: not all DSOs are the same. With consolidation accelerating and more capital returning to the space, dentists have real opportunities to unlock decades of hard work—if they choose wisely. Austin shares how to define non‑negotiables, evaluate culture before numbers, and stay grounded when larger offers test your resolve. His guiding philosophy is simple and powerful: treat each decision as if it affects your own family, because a practice is personal.Ready to get buyer ready on your terms? Listen now, then subscribe, share this episode with a colleague, and leave a quick review to help more dentists make confident, informed exits.

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    Why Small Dental Offices Are Prime Targets And How To Fight Back

    Think your practice is too small to attract hackers? The dark web says otherwise. We sit with Anthony, a 25-year IT veteran turned dental cybersecurity leader, to map out how attackers actually operate and what it takes to keep charts, imaging, and schedules safe without blowing up your day.We start with the uncomfortable truth: many dental networks were built by generalists who never applied enterprise best practices. Anthony explains how weak passwords, flat networks, and missing alerts make lateral movement trivial, and why “our IT has it covered” often crumbles under a simple simulated attack. He shares eye-opening field notes, including finding a dozen dental practices posted to the dark web in just two weeks and a live 2 a.m. intrusion his team detected and shut down before data could be touched.From there, we get tactical. You’ll hear a clear security playbook tailored to dentistry: password managers to end reuse, multi-factor authentication across email, EHR, imaging, and financial tools, least-privilege access, immutable backups, and third-party testing at least once a year. We dig into the cloud shift—why it reduces some risks but still demands strong identity and device controls—and how to modernize without wrecking production. Anthony’s team rebuilds after hours, stays on-site for the first days back, and operates as the practice’s IT department with one predictable monthly fee, so owners stop deferring fixes and finally stabilize slow, error-prone systems.If you’re running a growing group or a single busy office, this conversation delivers a realistic path to resilience: standardized stacks, 24/7 monitoring, and a culture that solves root causes instead of living in break-fix mode. Subscribe, share this with a colleague who handles IT decisions, and leave a review with your top security question—we’ll tackle it on a future show.

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    How Smart Training Turns Hygienists Into Practice Growth Engines

    The most profitable room in your practice might be the hygiene operatory—if you treat it like a clinical and business engine. Dr. Joy joins us to share how starting at the front desk shaped her uncommon view of dentistry: production only matters when it becomes collection, and great clinical work deserves systems that support it. From early mentors who demanded top-tier infection control to the realities of today’s payer landscape, we dig into the tension every owner feels—rising hygiene wages, shrinking reimbursements—and how to solve it without cutting care.We get practical fast. Joy breaks down why compensation must align with skills and results, and how a hygienist’s toolbox can expand beyond “cleaning” to include sharper instrumentation, faster and clearer radiographs, confident perio therapy, smart coding, and patient communication that drives acceptance. She explains her P3 framework—precision, power, prevention—and why hands-on training beats lecture-only CE when you want speed without roughness and quality without chaos. Real stories show how new grads, including COVID-era clinicians, regain confidence and translate Monday-morning wins into happier patients and healthier books.Owners will hear candid guidance on payer mix, expectations during hiring, and creative ways to invest beyond dollars—like maintaining instruments, offering focused coaching, and matching clinicians to the right pace. Hygienists will find a roadmap to earn top pay by delivering top value, with repeatable skills that lift outcomes for the patient, the practice, and the provider. If you’re ready to stop “scaling your way to prosperity” and start building a high-performance hygiene department, this conversation is your blueprint.If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a colleague, and leave a quick review—then tell us the one hygiene change you’ll implement this month.

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    What Every Dentist Should Know About Handpiece Care To Save Time, Money, And Patient Trust

    The day your drill dies mid-prep is the day everything else falls apart—production, schedule, and patient trust. That’s why we sat down with Dickie Ball, founder of Summit Hand Piece Express, to unpack exactly how to keep high-speed and electric handpieces running longer with less drama. This isn’t sales fluff; it’s the hard-won, owner-level playbook from a family business that answers its own phones and stands behind every repair with pride.We explore the maintenance moves that matter most: lubricating after every patient and before sterilization, confirming your lubrication machine is actually filled, and setting unit pressure to the manufacturer’s specs rather than cranking PSI to mask dull burrs. Dickie explains how running too hot prematurely kills bearings, why a “marbles in a can” sound signals trouble under load, and how to perform quick chairside checks for spray, heat, and chuck retention. You’ll learn how a simple checklist and better burr management lower stress for the whole team and prevent the same failures from returning.What makes this conversation different is the commitment to education over repeat repairs. Dickie shares how Summit teaches teams at conferences and through upcoming online courses so assistants, temps, and office managers can follow the same reliable routine. We cover easy shipping and estimate workflows, warranty details, and how refurbished options can halve costs without sacrificing quality. The result is less downtime, stronger patient experience, and better EBITDA—all by dialing in the basics and partnering with people who pick up the phone.If reliable handpieces are mission-critical in your practice, this conversation gives you the tools to protect them. Subscribe for more practical, clinician-tested tips, share this with your team, and leave a review to tell us which maintenance change you’ll make first.

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    Timing, EBITDA, And Freedom: Choosing Your Best Dental Exit

    Want out of the grind without hanging up the handpiece? We sit down with dental entrepreneur and master connector Elijah Desmond to rethink what “exit” really means for practice owners. Instead of a cold stop, Elijah maps a path where you sell high, keep a strong paycheck, and drop the admin headaches that drain your time and energy.We get practical with numbers. Elijah breaks down EBITDA in plain English, why buyers pay on profit after a market-rate doctor salary, and how multiples translate to real checks. You’ll hear when to sell for maximum value, why trending up beats slowing down, and how age and health risk color buyer confidence. We dig into preparation windows, from 6 to 18 months, and the exact levers that lift margin: recall and hygiene reactivation, scheduling templates, fee calibration, clean financials, and vendor renegotiation. The result is a practice that runs on systems rather than personality—catnip for DSOs, PE-backed groups, and private buyers alike.Elijah also opens up about his journey from uplifting underdogs to becoming a national seller-side broker with deep relationships across dentistry. That network powers deal flow and gives sellers more choices, not fewer. We talk life after the sale—paying off debt, focusing on clinical work you enjoy, and creating space for family, travel, coaching, or a new venture. If you’ve ever felt the pull to do more with your life but stayed put out of fear or confusion, this conversation gives you clarity and a step-by-step way forward.Ready to see where you stand and what your practice could be worth? Listen now, then subscribe, share with a colleague who needs this, and leave a quick review so more owners can plan smarter exits.

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    Growing A Dental Office Demands Systems, Staffing, And Real Patient Relationships

    Growth sounds exciting until the phones melt, schedules slip, and your best people burn out. We sat down with Erica Benavente—the fractional COO many top dentists quietly rely on—to unpack how a practice moves from a handful of ops to a thriving super practice without losing its heart.Erica’s journey from chairside assistant to operational leader gives her a rare, ground-level lens. She breaks down why relationships remain the engine of long-term growth and how systems keep that engine running at scale. We walk through the moves that actually shift outcomes: documenting clear SOPs, staffing phones before missed calls spike, designing schedules for flow, and setting expectations that your team can meet every day. You’ll hear where owners hit the wall trying to do it all, and what changes when you bring in leadership that builds capacity instead of patching fires.We also explore the tougher leap—opening location two and beyond. Erica lays out a practical framework for multi-site expansion: selecting the right market, aligning your patient experience, budgeting for payroll and equipment, and deciding when to add regionals or supervisors. She explains which roles should be centralized, how to protect culture across sites, and the KPIs that keep growth healthy, from answer rates to treatment acceptance and hygiene reappointment. Most importantly, she shares why a three-day onsite discovery surfaces hidden bottlenecks and creates a tailored, sequenced plan your team can execute with confidence.If you’re serious about scaling a dental practice, this conversation offers a clear path forward—lead with patient experience, fortify your systems, and build the right support so you can practice at the top of your license. Subscribe for more candid playbooks from operators in the trenches, and share this episode with a colleague who’s planning their next expansion. Your review helps fellow dentists find practical, no-fluff strategies that work.

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    How A Music Producer Built A Seven-Figure, Three-Day Dental Schedule

    What if fewer clinical days could unlock steadier production, happier teams, and patients who actually respect your time? We sit down with dental entrepreneur Kirk Teachout to unpack how a creative brain from the music world helped his dentist wife overhaul their practice during the COVID shutdown—cutting to three and a half clinical days while lifting collections by 57%. The big surprise isn’t a marketing stunt or a miracle hire. It’s a set of simple, enforced systems that turn busywork into consistent, sustainable production.Kirk walks us through the mindset shift from “pack the schedule” to “protect the schedule.” You’ll hear why templates alone don’t fix chaos, how leadership standards change patient behavior, and what it takes to swap roller-coaster days for reliable $10k production blocks. He also shares the practical move that listeners can implement tomorrow: the 24-hour rule. After automated reminders, call unconfirmed patients the morning before and set a firm noon deadline to keep their time, then double book if they don’t respond. It’s respectful, clear, and it retrains the calendar in your favor.We dig into real outcomes, from a temp doctor who posted back-to-back $15k days to a practice that flipped from deep in the red to $60–80k monthly profit within two months. Timelines vary, but the average turning point hits around 90 days when leaders engage, teams align on daily goals, and the schedule reflects what the practice actually wants. If you’re tired of heroic days followed by crash days, this conversation maps a path to consistency: tighter blocks, fewer low-value squeeze-ins, and a patient base that rises to your standards.Ready to take back control of your time and production? Listen now, grab the free schedule template at dentalscheduletemplate.com, and connect with Kirk on Instagram at @KirkTeachOut. If this helped, subscribe, share with a colleague, and leave a quick review so more dentists can build calm, profitable schedules.

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    From Airway To Aesthetic: A Lab Partner You Can Trust

    What if your lab made you look like a hero every single time? That’s the promise we put under the microscope with guest Rick Cromar, who shares how a dentist-first lab model can protect chair time, elevate patient satisfaction, and simplify your team’s day. Rick’s journey started in airway care—learning pneumopedics, traveling with leaders, and seeing how dentists change lives beyond the tooth. That perspective fuels a lab philosophy focused on speed, clarity, and respect for your brand: when a case is late, the patient doesn’t blame the lab, they blame you. So the lab should act like a true extension of your practice.We dig into the structure that makes this work: a platform with both economy-friendly “everyday” solutions and a Pacific-level premium line for ultra-aesthetic cases. Think Japanese-trained craftsmanship where it counts, and efficient bread-and-butter options where value matters. Turnarounds target 10 business days (often eight with digital scans), backed by a direct communication loop between dentist, technician, and customer success, so you get answers fast and remakes without friction. Whether you’re independent or part of a group, affiliate pricing helps bring DSO-level value to your lab spend without sacrificing service.Onboarding is simple—set your preferences, connect scanners, and get a welcome kit so your first submission feels natural. To lower the switching barrier, new accounts receive five free full-contour zirconia crowns, a real-world test to evaluate fit, finish, and response times across multiple cases. If you mill in-house, you can use equivalent credits for other lab services, keeping the trial relevant. We close with a straightforward message: give it a try, measure the results, and keep what works. If your goal is fewer surprises, better communication, and consistent outcomes that make patients smile, this conversation shows a path that’s practical, scalable, and built around your success.If this resonates, subscribe, share the episode with a colleague, and leave a quick review—your support helps more dentists find tools that actually move the needle.

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    Why Outsourcing Patient Outreach Protects Your Team And Grows Revenue

    What if your front desk never had to choose between greeting a patient and dialing five overdue reactivations? We sit down with Danielle Kramer, the force behind Schedule Squad, to unpack how trained, US-based coordinators keep chairs full while your in-office team focuses on care. Danielle’s story runs through nearly every seat in a practice—front office, assisting, management, and coaching—which gives her a rare lens on what actually drives production without draining people.We explore why clinical fluency matters in scheduling, from avoiding impossible time blocks to answering patient questions that can make or break a booked appointment. Danielle explains how her team functions as an extension of the practice, handling the “heads-down” work—unscheduled treatment follow-up, hygiene reactivation, and financial conversations—so the front desk can be fully present with patients at the counter. We dig into the difference between generic call centers and coordinators who understand crown seats, perio maintenance, and the real cadence of a dentist’s day.Coaching sits at the heart of Danielle’s approach. She draws a sharp connection between coaching athletes and coaching dental teams: find the passion, define the why, and put people in the right seats. You’ll hear two deceptively simple changes that move the needle fast: train everyone to ask for internal referrals and share one win with the team every day. Those habits compound into stronger morale, better retention, and a steady stream of high-intent patients.If you’ve felt the strain of hiring, the churn of turnover, or the guilt of asking your hygienists to make calls between patients, this conversation offers a practical alternative. Protect your team, respect chair time, and let specialists handle the outreach that keeps your schedule healthy. Subscribe for more candid strategies from the front lines of dental practice growth, share this with a colleague who needs support, and leave a review to tell us what you’ll implement first.

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    Your Dentist Wants To Sell You Less Stuff And Make You Healthier, And Ian Built The System For It

    Ready to trade guesswork for growth that actually serves patients? We bring you a candid, fast-moving conversation with strategist and fractional CRO Ian Miller, whose career spans a massive apparel business, a Guinness World Record charity marathon, stand-up comedy, and now a portfolio of dental innovations that blend rigor with heart. Ian shares how he helps founder-led dental companies move from invention to adoption, and why every business he backs needs a benevolent arm baked into its DNA.We dig into the biggest operational friction in practices: stocking and selling products. Ian explains how Dropship Dental lets clinicians recommend precise brands chairside and ship direct to the patient—no inventory, no tax hassle, no backroom chaos. Patients get clarity and fair pricing, practices earn a revenue share, and vendors keep margins by skipping layers that add cost without adding care. If staffing is tight and shelves aren’t moving, this is a simpler way to deliver the right tools at the right time.Fear is the other blocker, and the breakthrough is virtual reality. With Paper Plane Therapeutics, Ian details how immersive VR can reduce or even eliminate dental anxiety and pain without drugs, opening doors for patients who’ve avoided the chair for years. We also spotlight product “unicorns” like PerioTwist—a silicone, conical interdental tool that delivers medicaments right at the gumline—and training that elevates teams, including myofunctional therapy certification for hygienists. The throughline is the oral-systemic link: dentistry doesn’t just fix teeth—it safeguards whole-body health. That’s why Ian argues dentists must claim the “doctor” title with confidence and design systems that honor their impact.If you want to serve more people without burning out your staff or your shelves, you’ll leave with practical paths to action: direct-to-patient fulfillment, anxiety-calming VR, smarter home-care tools, and training that turns intention into outcomes. Subscribe, share this with a colleague who needs a lift, and leave a review with the one change you’ll try first—we’re listening and ready to help you make it real.

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    What Happens When You Let Your Highest Self Lead Your Work

    What if the missing piece in your career isn’t another script or a new marketing tactic, but the courage to let your highest self lead? We sit down with Dr. Jiveh “Dr. J” Farokh—cosmetic dentist, photographer, and storyteller—to unpack how presence, intention, and craft can transform a practice from transactional to deeply trusted.We start with identity: who are you beyond your role? Dr. J shares the awakening that moved him from chasing results to embodying power, and how that shift reshaped patient care, pricing, and culture. He walks us through a comprehensive, ninety-minute exam that honors attention and detail, and explains why fee-for-service success grows from self-worth rather than insurance battles. You’ll hear how heart-centered leadership raises case acceptance without pressure, and how desperation hiring taught him to protect energy, attract aligned team members, and build a practice people feel the moment they walk in.We dive into his two-day, invitation-only mentorship at Palm Beach Dental Academy, where clinicians learn over-the-shoulder veneer prep and cementation, direct-indirect composite artistry, photography for communication, and the rhythms of slow dentistry. For doctors who feel burned out, misaligned, or unsure they chose the right path, this is a reset built on presence and precision. Dr. J also shares how digital dentistry and AI tools like exocad are changing full-mouth reconstruction—bringing speed and accuracy while preserving the artistry that makes smiles look alive.This is a conversation about courage over fear, craft over churn, and becoming the kind of clinician patients trust without being sold. If you’re ready to reconnect with the reason you started, to price your value without flinching, and to create a culture that attracts the right people, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a colleague who needs the spark, and leave a review to tell us where you’re choosing courage today.

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    How A Dentist Built Human-Centered Marketing That Outperforms Discounts

    What if your practice stopped chasing discounts and started leading with heart? We sit down with Dr. Anissa, a dentist-turned-builder who shows how human storytelling and smart systems can fill chairs, lift case acceptance, and bring back the joy of serving patients. Her path from clinical care to coaching to founding Digital Floss reveals a simple truth: people don’t choose procedures, they choose people they trust—then technology makes that trust easy to act on.We unpack the playbook step by step. Start with a human copywriter who captures your voice and writes to real fears and motivations. Turn those scripts into short, powerful videos that show your team’s warmth and your standards of care. Pair the heart with the head: structure your site with clean SEO, thoughtful schema, and filenames that help Google and AI models understand your expertise. Distribute across Instagram, YouTube, LinkedIn, and your Google Business Profile with precise geo-targeting so the right neighbors actually see you. When prospects click, meet them with frictionless booking: AI receptionists call in under a minute, confirm intent, pre-qualify financing, and schedule directly—trained on your language, not a generic script.We also dig into the “unlimited budget” mindset by recovering aging receivables and reactivating dormant patients to finance growth. Voice agents follow up on treatment plans so coordinators can spend time connecting, not chasing. And we talk timing: AI assistants are already shaping local recommendations, and early movers tend to keep their spot. The common thread is culture. Old-school values still matter—pick up the phone, overdeliver, and build products that feel like a gift. Technology should make space for more of that, not less.Curious what this could look like for your practice? Explore examples, see real results, and book a demo at digitalfloss.com. If the conversation sparked ideas, share it with a colleague, subscribe for more deep dives, and leave a review with the one change you’re ready to make this week.

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    From PPO Chaos To Calm: Systems That Let Dentists Get Paid And Love Their Practice

    Money talk makes many dentists flinch, but what if collecting was calm, kind, and baked into every visit? We sit with Monica Cappelli, founder of Revv Systems, to unpack how a practice can stop sending bills, get paid before anesthesia, and still deliver a five‑star patient experience. Her journey begins with a front‑desk meltdown, a snowy drive home from Mexico, and years of trial and error that forged a simple truth: if you’re not collecting revenue, you’re not in business.We walk through the pillars that changed everything: clean billing systems that verify insurance, submit flawless claims, post quickly, and appeal fast; leadership that sets a clear vision, trains the team, holds standards, and rewards wins; and data insights that reveal which KPIs to track daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and yearly. Monica shows how pruning PPOs becomes possible only after you elevate care and hospitality—treat patients like royalty, expand service mix with CE and specialists, and make paying easy and transparent. The outcome is less AR, fewer write‑offs, and stronger relationships grounded in trust.What makes this story stick is its humanity. Monica’s “therapia” ideal reframes a dental office as a place of peace for teams and patients. Clients who once lived in fear and chaos now enjoy steady growth, restored vacations, and the pride of a practice that reflects their clinical excellence. Structure doesn’t suffocate culture; it frees it. With the right systems and numbers, dentists reclaim time, confidence, and the ability to be generous at home and in the community.If you’re ready to replace anxiety with clarity and turn leaks into cash flow, press play. Then share this with a colleague who needs it, subscribe for more practice growth stories, and leave a review to tell us your biggest bottleneck and what you want solved next.

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    How A Personal Story Sparked A Mission To Transform Dentistry

    The conversation opens with spark and honesty: how do you build a full-arch program that actually works for patients, teams, and the bottom line? We invited CEO and founder Greg Essenmacher to share the story behind GNA Consult, and he brought a rare mix of operational precision and human depth. From his manufacturing roots with Neodent to training every touchpoint of the patient journey, Greg explains why some practices scale smoothly while others stall under the weight of their own demand.We break down the essentials: patient lead stratification that separates buyers from researchers and tire kickers, team roles that match natural strengths, and the operations guardrails that keep surgeries timely and conversion rates steady. Greg shows how a client jumped from 22 to 50 arches a month and then dipped—proof that marketing without capacity planning is a costly illusion. He offers a grounded framework for practices of all sizes, from solo GP clinics adding implants to DSOs chasing same-store growth, and he’s crystal clear about the levers that matter most: time, talent, and treasure.But the heart of the episode runs deeper. Greg shares the personal experiences that anchor his mission—family members who lost their teeth young, hundreds of patient reveals that redefined what a smile can restore, and a commitment to sobriety that shapes his leadership. He talks about balance as a daily practice, not a slogan, and makes a compelling case for culture that blends empathy with accountability. The result is a playbook and a posture: build systems that serve people, and success will follow.If you’re ready to grow full-arch services without sacrificing your team or your margins, this is your roadmap. Subscribe, share with a colleague who needs it, and leave a review to tell us which idea you’ll implement first.

  21. 14

    Why The Right Dental Marketing Partner Can Save You A Year Of Lost Growth

    What happens when an engineer leaves Intel, dives into a struggling dental practice, and discovers a better way to grow? Cory Roletto built WEO Media on a simple pledge—We Over Me—and it shows up in the way he sets expectations, measures success, and partners with teams to turn marketing into measurable outcomes. No hype, no magic bullets, just data-driven work that moves from clicks to calls, to scheduled treatment, to profit you can feel.We walk through the evolution of dental marketing: from basic websites and newsletters to full-funnel visibility that tracks every step of the patient journey. Cory breaks down how he vets vendors in a crowded market, why longevity and innovation matter, and the red flags that signal trouble—onerous contracts, recycled brands, and promises like “15 full arches in 30 days.” He shares the dashboards DSOs actually need, tailored to CEOs, COOs, CFOs, and marketing leaders, so everyone sees the right numbers without drowning in noise.AI takes center stage as both a practical tool and a structural shift. Inside the practice, it powers virtual reception, treatment presentation, and radiographic support. Inside the agency, it accelerates content, design, analytics, and the move toward marketing platforms that increase transparency and lower costs. We also zoom out to the human layer: caring for teams, serving beyond business, and defining legacy by the ripples you leave. If you want a partner who will challenge assumptions, track what matters, and help you grow with integrity, this conversation is your blueprint.Subscribe for more grounded conversations on growth and leadership, share this episode with a colleague who needs better marketing clarity, and leave a quick review to tell us what topic you want next.

  22. 13

    Building Profitable Dental Teams With AI And Culture

    Busy doesn’t always mean productive. We bring on Gabriel Hofmann—founder of the Dental Efficiency Guy and VP for DSOs and Groups at Dental Robot—to explore how practices stuck in constant motion can reclaim time, reduce chaos, and convert effort into real margin and a better patient experience. Gabe shares what he’s learned across 20+ years in operations: the front desk is juggling too much, chairside focus gets hijacked, and new patients stall when touchpoints aren’t owned. The fix begins with culture—alignment that turns protocols into habits—and continues with systems that make handoffs, scheduling blocks, and case presentation feel effortless.From there, we dig into where AI automation actually earns its keep. Insurance verification, AR follow-up, and unscheduled treatment outreach are ripe for automation that fits the way teams already work. When tools adapt to your workflow, adoption rises, payer cycles shorten, and the team wins back hours for treatment coordination and patient wow moments. Gabe walks through a candid case study: a small group with strong revenue but thin margins resets its scheduling templates, renegotiates supply vendors, cleans up handoffs, and layers in custom automation—resulting in a 37% top-line jump, 12% cost reduction, and a 10-point margin lift in 90 days.What stands out is the emotional shift. Leaders move from exhaustion to energy, and that mood radiates through the team and into the operatory. Gabe calls it “joy ROI”: the compounding return on time, clarity, and culture. If you’ve felt stuck in analysis paralysis, unsure which system or AI to trust, you’ll hear a pragmatic framework to diagnose the real problem, build a 30-60-90 plan, and protect gains with automation that works for you—not the other way around. Subscribe, share this with a colleague who needs a second set of eyes, and leave a review telling us where you want to win more time next.

  23. 12

    Fall Back In Love With Your Practice Through Aligned Teams And Smart Tech

    What if your practice didn’t need more leads, but better handoffs? We sit with Andy Klepner, CEO of Brighter Idea Marketing, to unpack why the real growth lever in dentistry is a tight operating system—aligned teams, clear communication, and smart automations that make patient journeys feel human and effortless. Andy shares a powerful orthodontic transition story where revenue climbed not through flashy campaigns, but by connecting tools, nurturing legacy patients, and activating decades of dormant contacts with thoughtful follow-up.We dig into the most common misconception in dental marketing: treating ads as a cure-all while ignoring the leaks in onboarding, scheduling, referrals, and reviews. Andy reframes marketing as operations, showing how front-of-house and back-of-house systems can reduce stress, stabilize schedules, and improve patient experience. He also explains how AI can be an interpreter that simplifies complexity for teams, rather than another overwhelming trend. The result is a practice that saves time, compounds trust, and gives owners a reason to fall back in love with their work.Along the way, we talk leadership and culture, the joy of making processes feel simple, and a daily affirmation ritual that anchors intention. We touch on the coming shakeout in lead-gen land, why the smoothest operators will win, and how community support like Backstage helps values-driven businesses thrive. If you’re a dentist or dental entrepreneur ready to replace chaos with clarity—and growth that feels good—this conversation maps the path.If this resonates, tap follow, share it with a colleague who needs systems, and leave a quick review to help more practices find the show.

  24. 11

    How The Queen Of Smiles Turns Experts Into Industry Celebrities

    What if growth didn’t require going viral, dancing on TikTok, or burning out on trends? Dr. Catrise Austin—widely known as the Queen of Smiles—joins us to show how real momentum comes from visibility, authority, and clear positioning. We trace her journey from celebrity cosmetic dentist to the founder of Celebrity Branding, and we get practical about turning expertise into books, podcasts, PR, and premium clients who pay for value, not discounts.We dig into the pandemic pivot that exposed a painful truth: practices without brands struggled, while those with digital assets and community kept moving. Catrise breaks down a simple system that starts with a slim, powerful book, then repurposes chapters into podcast episodes, blog posts, LinkedIn articles, and keynote frameworks. You’ll hear case studies—including a 20-page EBITDA handbook that generated leads and seven-figure outcomes—and why authorship instantly upgrades credibility, speaking invitations, and close rates.Looking ahead, Catrise explains why AI changes discoverability. If ChatGPT and other AI agents don’t recognize your authority, you’ll be invisible at the moment buyers search. The antidote is an authority stack: earned media, trade journal features, podcasts, stage time, and IP that signals expertise to both people and machines. We also tackle camera shyness, comparison traps, and how to elevate team voices so your message spreads even if you prefer audio-first formats.If you want to become the go-to in your niche, attract fee-for-service patients, and increase exit value, this conversation maps the steps. Your brand is an asset, not a vanity metric—and visibility is the new currency. If this resonates, follow the show, share it with a colleague, and leave a quick review to help more experts build the authority they deserve.

  25. 10

    From Dental Assistant To CE Cruise Leader: How Dr. Devinn Geeson Built Teams That Last

    What if continuing education felt like your team’s best memory of the year—and also moved your numbers? That’s the energy Dr. Devinn Geeson brings as she shares how she climbed from dental assistant to hygienist to dentist to owner, built four locations on systems and culture, and then doubled down on a bold idea: make learning joyful and watch retention soar.We get into the real origin story—eighth‑grade doubts, personal loss, and a work ethic that wouldn’t quit—and how those experiences shaped a people‑first approach. Devinn breaks down why her practices outperformed: clear processes, relentless CE, and a tradition of celebrating big goals with bigger experiences. Think cruises where team members get their first passport stamp, earn 10–17 CE hours in the mornings, and spend afternoons bonding over shared adventures. The result? Loyalty you can feel, skills that stick, and momentum you bring home.We also unpack the nuts and bolts: what Smiles at Sea and the Dental Festival offer, how the edutainment format beats the “boardroom nap,” and why cruising often wins on cost when cabins, food, and basic drinks are bundled. Devinn shares practical funding strategies, payment plans, and tax considerations, plus a recruiting angle you can use tomorrow—advertise paid CE travel tied to team goals and watch applicants light up. For aspiring speakers, Dentistry’s Got Talent provides a rare platform to deliver sharp, 10‑minute talks in front of national meeting planners and springboard to bigger stages.Underneath the tactics is a bigger mission: invest in people, grow community, and let music, movement, and curiosity fuel professional growth. If you’re ready to upgrade culture, reduce turnover, and turn CE into a retention engine, this conversation gives you the blueprint.Enjoy the episode? Subscribe, share with a colleague who needs a culture boost, and leave a quick review to help more dental teams find us.

  26. 9

    How A Young Dentist Built A Bridge Between Burned-Out Owners And Eager Associates

    Ever feel like your practice is a ship fighting headwinds with frayed ropes and a tired crew? We sat down with Cole, a young dentist shaped by a grandfather’s example and hardened by real-world trials, to unpack a simple idea with powerful outcomes: mentorship is the operating system of a healthy practice. Not supervision. Not micromanagement. Mentorship—deliberate, measurable, and mutual.Cole breaks down his MENTOR model—motivate, empower, nurture, teach, observe, receive—and shows how each step transforms owner–associate relationships from fragile to resilient. He shares the Friday night story that pushed him to build a new path, where associates aren’t just production but professionals growing on purpose. If you’ve felt the sting of turnover, miscommunication, or culture drift, you’ll hear exactly where leaders get stuck and what to change first: create a one-page development plan on day one, schedule weekly feedback loops, and make shadowing a two-way street. The payoff is tangible—calmer operatories, smarter case acceptance, and teams that solve problems before they reach the patient.We also explore why Cole’s perspective bridges generations. He speaks the language of new grads while honoring the wisdom of seasoned clinicians, translating needs and expectations so both sides win. Along the way, we spotlight the Backstage community and the momentum that comes from surrounding yourself with builders who freely share playbooks. If you’re ready to swap burnout for progress and rebuild trust inside your practice, this conversation is your blueprint.Subscribe for more candid conversations with dental leaders, share this episode with a colleague who needs a reset, and leave a review to help others find the show. Got a mentorship win or challenge? Tell us—your story could spark someone else’s breakthrough.

  27. 8

    How Shannon Mackey Scales Dental Practices With Omnipresence Marketing

    What if your practice stopped chasing clicks and started owning demand? We sit down with dental marketing veteran Shannon Mackie to unpack how she evolved from hand-coding clean, fashion-inspired websites in 1999 to building omnipresence engines that turn attention into qualified new patients. Shannon’s story starts with small-business grit and moves into a decades-long focus on dentistry, where she learned that design attracts, but messaging and distribution convert. Her approach reframes marketing from a set of tactics into a system: a clear brand story, a visible doctor and team, and content that runs across search, local, and social until the right patients are ready to say yes.We dig into why marketing feels harder now—post-COVID behavior shifts, more channels, and shorter attention—and how AI-first SEO, local visibility, and CRM tracking bring clarity back to ROI. Shannon explains omnipresence in plain English: be where your ideal patient actually spends time, publish helpful proof they can feel, and repeat with enough cadence to build trust. She shares wins from startup and multi-location practices that embraced this model, including surges in virtual consults, expanded operatories, and confident hiring of new associates. The theme is consistent: when strategy, creative, and measurement align, growth compounds.Culture is the hidden multiplier. Shannon’s 45-person team runs on wins, transparency, and genuine fun, which spills into client content that patients actually want to watch. She also taps a community of dental operators, coaches, and tech partners to solve bottlenecks beyond marketing—because full schedules require strong systems. If you want a brand patients remember and a pipeline you can measure, this conversation gives you the playbook and the proof.If this resonates, follow the show, share it with a colleague who needs a marketing reset, and leave a quick review to help more practices find these strategies.

  28. 7

    Freedom Through Airway: A Dentist’s Playbook For Impact And Income

    A childhood escape over dark mountains taught Dar one lesson he couldn’t forget: sleep can be a matter of survival. Years later, a crash caused by undiagnosed sleep apnea turned that lesson into a mission. We sit down with Dr. Dar Radfar to unpack how he transformed personal adversity into a repeatable playbook that helps dentists deliver better sleep, stronger health outcomes, and real lifestyle freedom.We explore the full arc: spotting airway red flags chairside, simplifying home sleep testing without buying equipment, and coaching teams to keep sleep top of mind. Dar breaks down why CPAP compliance struggles, when oral appliances outperform, and how combination therapy reduces pressure and boosts comfort for severe cases. He shares plain-language scripts that win medical doctor referrals, a billing partner model that only charges when you get paid, and the marketing touchpoints that bring motivated, pre-diagnosed patients through the door. With average appliance fees around $2,500 to $3,000 and lab costs near $450, he shows how practices can earn a seven-to-one ROI while protecting their necks and backs from heavy procedures.Beyond the numbers, this is about impact: quieter nights, safer sleep, partners who finally rest, and clinicians who reclaim time. Dar now practices six days a month, mentors his associate on restorative work, and pours energy into speaking and coaching so more teams can deliver airway care with confidence. If you’ve wondered how to add sleep apnea treatment without chaos, this conversation gives you the structure, the language, and the mindset to start.Subscribe for more practice growth stories, share this with a colleague who needs a new path forward, and leave a review to help others find it. Ready to build a sleep engine in your practice? Let’s get to work.

  29. 6

    How Advanced Planning Can Turn A $1.8M Tax Bill Into $215K

    Think dentistry automatically equals easy money? We pull back the curtain on the financial reality most owners face: heavy student loans, acquisition debt, rising payroll, and taxes on income that often goes straight to repayments. Stephen Nance, a CPA who started his career auditing on the state side, joins us to explain how those early “painful but correct” tax adjustments inspired a new mission—pair meticulous compliance with advanced planning so dentists stop overpaying and start making confident, timely moves.We talk through the difference between bookkeeping, tax filing, and true strategy—and why that gap can mean six figures. Steve breaks down the playbook: proactive projections with built-in buffers, entity design that manages self-employment exposure, accountable plans, optimized retirement structures, and specialized tools like charitable leverage, oil and gas investments, and captive insurance where the risk profile fits. The theme is timing. If you wait until filing, most levers are gone; when you plan in-season, your effective rate drops and your cash position strengthens.If you’re headed for a sale or recap, the stakes multiply. Steve shares a jaw-dropping case: a projected $1.8 million tax bill reduced to about $215,000 through careful sequencing and qualifying strategies. Not every situation will swing that far, but the principle stands—selling a practice is trading future profits for a one-time payout, and every dollar saved extends your runway for retirement, growth, or giving. We also cover a deal killer too few owners consider: delayed, messy books. Transactions require clean financials on demand; when your CPA lags, deals stall and valuations suffer. The antidote is a team that keeps monthly books current and anticipates diligence before it’s urgent.If you’re a dentist running one to ten locations and grossing north of $2M, this conversation will help you see where you’re leaving money on the table and how to reclaim it with a clear, date-driven plan. Enjoy the insights, then subscribe, share this episode with a colleague who’s prepping for a sale, and leave a review with your top tax question—we’ll tackle it on a future show.

  30. 5

    How A Dentist Builds Better Cosmetic Clinicians

    A kid who hated brushing grows up to teach cosmetic dentistry with a system anyone can follow—that’s the unexpected arc behind our conversation with Dr. Tyler Brady. We open by tracing how curiosity, not bravado, carried Tyler from a mouth full of fillings to a practice focused on life-changing smile design. Then we get practical. If you’ve felt the gap between rising tuition and shrinking hands-on experience, you’ll hear why so many new dentists struggle with adhesives, sequencing, and case planning—and how a better pathway can fix it.Tyler breaks down his three-level training model designed for general dentists who want predictable cosmetic outcomes and full-mouth confidence. Level one sets the foundation with a clean workflow for veneers and bonding. Level two ramps hands-on reps and real case planning to avoid common pitfalls. Level three is the difference-maker: a guided, live patient case that cements muscle memory in your own operatory. The thread through it all is accessibility—Tyler actually answers DMs, reviews photos and x-rays, and coaches through those make-or-break steps that keep cases cemented and patients smiling.We also pull back the curtain on a brand play that meets patients where they live. Tyler is launching Hype, a clean-ingredient, fluoride-free toothpaste built for teens and the action-sports crowd. Think bold design, great taste, and a mission to make brushing feel aspirational. With influencers on board and a clear point of view, Hype aims to turn “I should brush” into “I want to brush.” Along the way, we talk about how the Backstage Pass community helped compress the learning curve on branding, distribution, and smart use of AI—proof that the right network can speed up both clinical growth and product launch.If you’re a dentist craving hands-on CE, a parent hunting for a teen-friendly toothpaste, or a builder looking for the right blueprint to scale, you’ll find tools and a path forward here. Subscribe, share with a colleague who needs a mentor that responds, and leave a review with the one skill you want to master next.

  31. 4

    Seize The Chance: Turning Small Openings Into Life-Changing Opportunities

    What if the biggest break of your career is already within reach—hidden in a small opportunity you’ve been overlooking? That’s the heartbeat of our conversation with Dr. Glenn Vo, whose path from immigrant beginnings to dentistry’s super connector proves that resourcefulness, service, and timely yeses can reshape a life and a profession.We dive into how Glenn’s early years forged a mindset that treats thrift as strategy, not scarcity. He shares the origin and mission of Nifty Thrifty, a community built to help dentists stretch dollars, vet vendors, and reduce risk without sacrificing quality. From merchant services and labs to AI tools and practice software, Glenn explains how smart selection and warm introductions save time, money, and stress—especially when the next patient feels as uncertain as the next month’s schedule.Then we zoom out to opportunity design. Glenn’s Vietnam CE experience blends morning learning with afternoon immersion, turning continuing education into memory-making momentum you can write off and genuinely enjoy. For dentists who want to step beyond the op, Dental Podfest offers coaching, stage access, and media pathways to raise your profile, land affiliate deals, and translate expertise into influence. We also explore the Backstage Mastermind, a room where founders, clinicians, and creators exchange introductions, accountability, and courage—because the right relationships compound faster than any ad spend.Under it all is character and community. Elijah highlights Glenn’s reputation for showing up first to help, which explains why doors open when he knocks and why so many careers have accelerated through his network. If you’re ready to move from waiting to acting, this conversation gives you a roadmap: seize the small chance, join the right rooms, and say yes to growth that blends work with life.If this resonates, follow the show, share it with a colleague who could use a door-opener, and leave a review to help more dentists find conversations that move them forward.

  32. 3

    You Are The Asset: A Coach’s Playbook For Dentists

    Burnout doesn’t happen because you forgot another metric. It happens when you carry the whole practice alone. We sit with leadership coach Leah Roling to unpack a hard truth many dentists secretly know: your practice can’t outperform your inner life. Leah shares how growing up with a mother who modeled unconditional love shaped her approach to coaching, and why the most valuable investment in any dental business is the owner’s capacity to think clearly, regulate emotions, and lead with intention.We dig into the difference between ability and capacity—what you know versus what you can actually hold under pressure. Leah walks through the tools she teaches dentists and teams: thought audits that reveal hidden limits, emotional regulation to end the anxiety spiral, and agreement-based systems that turn vague roles into measurable wins. Instead of punitive policies, her method builds accountability through clarity and kindness. She explains why consultants provide the “what to do,” while coaches remove the internal blocks that keep you from doing it, and how combining both creates compounding results across production, retention, and patient experience.If you’re eyeing an exit, this conversation hits the risk buyers fear most: shaky culture and a burned-out leader. Leah outlines realistic timelines—90 days to operationalize culture, about six months to stabilize—and the signals that tell a buyer they can trust your team beyond you. For owners who care deeply yet feel tapped out, her challenge is clear and hopeful: get happy before you go, or get happy and decide to stay. Either way, reclaim your role as the asset and watch everything else rise. If this resonates, share it with a colleague, hit follow, and leave a review with your biggest leadership question so we can tackle it next.

  33. 2

    What If Better Systems Could Save Your Practice And Your Sanity

    A near‑bankruptcy turnaround, a childhood spent in a dental lab, and a blueprint for getting paid faster—this conversation with Devon Banks brings rare honesty and hard-won tactics to every dentist fighting denials and aging AR. We pull back the curtain on revenue cycle management, starting with verification of benefits and clean claims, then moving through payment posting, strategic appeals, patient statements, and when to involve collections partners. Devon explains how software training, documentation discipline, and payer-specific expectations can make or break cash flow, especially after a practice switches systems without the right support.We share the story of a practice that saw collections halved after a rushed move to Dentrix. Devon rebuilt the workflow, retrained the team, and restored revenue by tightening claim hygiene and aligning treatment plans with coverage realities. That success is not a fluke; it’s a repeatable system grounded in compliance, contracts, and a relentless focus on first-pass acceptance. You’ll hear why automation and AI will streamline transactional steps like eligibility checks and posting, but why human judgment still wins appeals, protects against audits, and translates policy into action at the front desk.What makes Devon’s approach different is the owner-to-owner mindset: treat every practice like your own, be accessible, and bring trusted referrals when clients need a lab, broker, or consultant. The Backstage community amplifies that promise, surrounding dentists with founders who deliver, communicate, and collaborate. If you’re struggling with verification bottlenecks, denials, or a chaotic AR, this is a clear, practical path to stabilize collections and breathe easier.If the episode helps, follow the show, share it with a colleague who needs an RCM reset, and leave a quick review—tell us your biggest insurance pain point so we can tackle it next.

  34. 1

    From Rock Bottom To Dental Leadership That Works

    A childhood shock can hardwire a lifetime of choices. When both of Eric Roman’s parents lost their airline jobs at the same time, an eight-year-old decided he’d build a life he could control. That thread runs through everything we unpack here: the grind of building and exiting dental groups, the humility of losing a practice in a regulatory fight, the resilience to rebuild to $40 million in revenue, and the hard-earned belief that dentistry only scales when dentists do.We dig into why DSOs and group practices often stall despite strong marketing and growth plans. Leaders look up to the next location and forget the unit of scalability: the dentist, the manager, the hygienist. Eric and longtime partner Josie Sewell built Dental Associate Growth to solve that gap with simple, repeatable clinical leadership systems and direct coaching for associates. Expect specifics: how to make a practice “associate ready” before recruiting, what a documented recipe for dentist success looks like, and why owner-dentists struggle to performance manage peers. You’ll hear a standout win—a doctor jumping from $37k to $75k in monthly production in three weeks—and the mindset shift behind it: show up like a true professional, review your game, and embrace feedback that sticks.If you’re a high-producing owner who can’t sell because you’re the single point of failure, this conversation shows the way out. Build the playbook first, then hire. Establish clinical standards, run consistent reviews, and let a neutral coach say the hard things that move behavior. We also talk about the power of aligned communities—masterminds where ideas multiply and leaders can be human, not just “on stage.” The throughline is simple and practical: codify what works, make excellence easy to follow, and protect your business from the heroics of any one person.If this moved you or sparked an idea, follow and subscribe for more candid, no-fluff conversations. Share the episode with a colleague who’s stuck on associateship, and leave a quick review to help others find us. Your feedback shapes what we build next.

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Real strategies from the dental industry’s most forward-thinking founders, CEOs, and practice-growth experts.The Backstage Pass Podcast brings the entire dental industry exactly what it needs to grow, scale, and thrive. Every episode features proven strategies, fresh ideas, and actionable solutions shared by founders, CEOs, executives, and practice-growth experts who live by the values of kindness, abundance, and fun.This is the podcast for private practice dentists, emerging groups, DSOs, dental professionals, and industry partners who want to think bigger and perform at their highest level. You will hear from trusted dental companies, innovative service providers, and select DSOs that create career paths and partnership opportunities for doctors ready for their next chapter.Backstage Pass members are some of the most respected and forward-thinking leaders in dentistry. Together they mastermind, colla

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