The Conversations that Carry Us

In this episode, Dr. Andrea Fatona and I explore the importance of knowledge transfer, intergenerational relationships, collective memory, and peer learning in curating. Dr. Fatona is cherished by many as an educator and knowledge facilitator. During our conversation, she shares the socio-political context that has informed her practice. She also talks about key practitioners and collaborators who have supported her research, allowed her to experiment, and trusted her vision. The same collective energy that has nurtured her career has propelled the recent establishment of her dream project, the Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora at OCAD University. As we unpack the ongoing urgency that comes with working as a Black curator, we explore the definitions of failure and practice, which are closely linked to the importance of repetition and risk-taking for creative freedom and expansion. This episode was recorded in the winter of 2023. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ Transcription available soon 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ - Audio Editor Geneviève Wallen and Katie Kotler - Transcriber Jacqueline Joachim - Transcription Copyeditor Josiane Ménard - Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤

I met with eunice bélidor to discuss the role of care and support in our curatorial practices. It seemed natural to include this conversation as part of this project since our practices converge along these lines, and I was very curious to hear her thoughts on the subject. We look at the ways in which care manifests itself at different professional stages, speculate on the role of care in the future of museum practice, investigate forms of post-exhibition" care, and laslty, eunice shares her rituals to take care of herself and others. This episode was recorded in the summer of 2022. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ Transcription available soon 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ - Audio Editor Geneviève Wallen and Katie Kotler - Transcriber Jacqueline Joachim - Transcription Copyeditor Josiane Ménard - Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤

★ Please be patient, this episode has a sound discrepancy between 4 mins 44 secs and 11 mins. In this conversation with curator and street artist Camille Larivée, we unpack the affective possibilities of activism within the curatorial framework. My guest is committed to the implementation of artistic spaces countering the niches of white supremacy and capitalism that have permeated the cultural field, highlighting the vital need to indulge in whacky projects and dream together. This episode was recorded in the summer of 2022. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ Transcription available soon 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ - Audio Editor Geneviève Wallen and Katie Kotler - Transcriber Jacqueline Joachim - Transcription Copyeditor Josiane Ménard - Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤

In this episode Alyssa Fearon shares about pivotal moments in her career where she took what she labelled as “a calculated risk” to access leadership positions outside of Toronto. In 2018, after the curation of the memorable first edition of Nuit Blanche Scarborough, she moved to Brandon Manitoba to become the Curator of Contemporary Art at the Art Gallery of Southwest Manitoba, and a of couple years later took the role she still occupies today, as the Director and Curator of the Dunlop Art Gallery, in the Regina Public Library, in SK. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was recorded in the spring of 2022. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ To know more about Alyssa and read the episode transcript, please visit: https://www.blackcanadiandiasporacentre.com/projects/the-conversations-that-carry-us 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ Audio Editor Katie Kotler Transcriber Marina Fathalla Transcription Copyeditor Merray Gerges Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ The theme music is Raindrops Unearthed by Chanteclair.

In this episode, There Is No Magic Formula; Pamela Edmonds delves into the ins and outs of guest curating and traces her exciting career that spans from the late 1990s until now. Edmonds transmits a wealth of information about how she experimented with curation while functioning both inside and outside of mainstream institutions. She also shares the evolving nature of her practice by delineating the socio-political climates that fueled her work. This episode was recorded in the spring of 2022. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ Transcription available soon 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ - Audio Editor Katie Kotler - Transcriber Marina Fathalla - Transcription Copyeditor Merray Gerges - Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ The theme music is Raindrops Unearthed by Chanteclair.

In the episode, Habiter l’espace, curator Dominique Fontaine discusses her curatorial practice that is rooted in movement, collaboration, and collective intelligence. In the spirit of knowledge transfer, she also shares organizations and writing platforms that have been instrumental in developing a critical vocabulary about practices circulating outside of the European and American canons in the late 1990s/early 2000s. We explore how one can export their practice, notions of hospitality and the logistics behind international collaborations. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was recorded during the summer of 2022. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ Transcription will be available soon 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ - Audio Editor Katie Kotler - Transcriber Jacqueline Joachim - Transcription Copyeditor Josiane Ménard - Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ The theme music is Raindrops Unearthed by Chanteclair.

The episode Se faire confiance explores different career paths and curatorial approaches. Starting with Mojeanne Behzadi's diverse career path, we discuss what led her to pursue curating. We also take the time to unpack the issues influencing our decision-making process in envisioning our short and long-term careers. Mojeanne Behzadi takes a moment to make a call to action, reminding us that the 2020 aspirations for slowness in the arts are still relevant. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was recorded during the summer of 2022. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ Transcription will be available soon. 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ -Audio Editor Katie Kotler -Transcriber Jacqueline Joachim -Transcription Copyeditor Josiane Ménard -Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ The theme music is Raindrops Unearthed by Chanteclair.

The Transparency that Helps All of Us, may unearth a lot of feelings, anger, and hurt as we are exploring the taboo subject of contracts, non-disclosure agreements, and dive deeper into money talk. As highlighted by the title of this episode, Gendai members Marsya Maharani and Petrina Ng, hope to prevent more people from learning lessons the hard way and avoid institutional and relational harm. They question the seemingly fixed and rigid nature of contracts while debunking the collective belief that the institution knows better. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ Transcription will be available soon. 彡★ 彡★ Team/équipe彡★ 彡★ -Audio Editor Katie Kotler -Transcriber Marina Fathalla -Transcription Copyeditor Merray Gerges -Branding and social media strategist Leone McComas ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ This episode was made possible through the support of the Canada Council for the Arts and The Centre for the Study of Black Canadian Diaspora. ¤¸¸.•´¯`•¸¸.•...•.¸¸•´¯`•.¸¸¤ The theme music is Raindrops Unearthed by Chanteclair.