The Great Spin Up

River and Tay unpack DeepSeek v4's 1.5 trillion parameter open-source drop and a Google paper on compressing models to run on phones. They test Gemini Flash Live 3.1 in 70 languages, compare it to Grok's voice model in ~20, and abandon a plan to drop a voice agent into Riverside as a third co-host. Tay demos his news-history tool — scrapes headlines, generates the historical timeline behind each. River updates on Hermes, their wiki-LLM COO agent on OpenRouter, and admits the reluctance problem: too many Telegram topics, not enough cron-job signal. They surface get hours (gethours.org) — their voice-agent venture auditing AI tools for SMBs in 70 languages, aiming to reclaim ~10 hours/week from the 50,000 tools on There's An AI For That.The Land Book pricing rabbit hole pits Kimi 2.6 against Perplexity Pro and ends in a French-king-staged-potato-heist analogy. The deep dive lands on positive constraints: Vipassana's 10-day silence, Peter Thiel's "10-year plan in 6 months," and an agentless-week dare. AMA covers definitions of abundance, what felt impossible 12 months ago, firefly bioindicators, the Japanese fat cat screen-saver, parole judges granting freedom after lunch, and Tay's theory that the 12-15 minute lull in group conversation is evolutionary residue from scanning the horizon for woolly mammoths.If AI disappeared overnight but you kept the tools you built — would you be ahead or behind?Timestamps(02:28) Weekly Check-in(02:39) News(21:01) Tools(36:47) Building(56:44) Rabbit Holes(01:15:39) Open Questions(01:19:25) Deep Dive — positive constraints(01:41:13) AMARESOURCESPEOPLEIain McGilchrist — external vs internal intelligenceCal Newport — Deep Work; student-of-history framingPeter Thiel — "10-year plan in 6 months"David Sinclair — Yamanaka factor human trials startingBrian Johnson — psychedelic trip as "raw consciousness"Buckminster Fuller — "more and more with less and less"Muhammad Ali — case study in not knowing when to quitCharlie of Charlie's Webs — 12-story paracord tree installationsBOOKSDeep Work — Cal NewportLifespan — David SinclairSuperintelligence — Nick BostromPODCASTSThe Great Simplification — Nate HagensThe Great HumblingThe Tim Ferriss Show — Tim FerrissPROJECTS / TOOLSDeepSeek v4 — 1.5T open-source modelGemini Flash Live 3.1 — voice agent, 70 languagesGrok voice — xAI; ~20-25 languagesGemma — Google models running on phonesChatGPT Image 2.0 — strong for UI designFlipbook — generative zoom-into-zoom book interfacePickle — visual avatar for voice-only meetingsKimi 2.6 — used for Land Book pricingPerplexity Pro — pricing rabbit hole companionOpenRouter — model routing for HermesThere's An AI For That — directory of ~50,000 toolsHermes — wiki-LLM COO agent in Telegramget hours — gethours.org; SMB tool-audit voice agentLand Book — intelligence layer for land buyersLand Library — bioregional library venture (landlibrary.co)Nature Club — facilitator-hosted events in nature (nature-club.co)Colossal — woolly mammoth de-extinction

Meta once pulled the plug on two agents that started negotiating with each other in a made-up language involving balls and balloons. That's the kind of tangent Tay Pattison and River Roberts end up on in the debut of The Great Spin Up — a podcast about building toward an abundant future, recorded from opposite ends of a Bali cafe over construction noise and techno.River walks through standing up a Hermes agent on a $10/month Hetzner VPS, routed through Telegram, running open-source models via OpenRouter, plus the SSH headaches that came with it. Tay breaks down his current stack — Claude Code in terminal, Cline for parallel feature work, Claude Design for filling in missing UI screens — and why running through the Max Plan beats paying per token on the API.They get into 45-minute sprints vs burnout marathons, the Mum Test for early feedback, build gates for killing bad ideas, Martec's Law, and why agents might soon market to other agents instead of humans. Plus six-month predictions: agent CEOs, talking to animals, and a wallet Tay left in Portugal six months ago and hasn't needed since.