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The Masculine Wilderness Podcast
by Epik Project
Not only is masculinity a wilderness, we often feel alone in it. Male loneliness is at epidemic levels which is not only tragic, it correlates to more men seeking commercial sex. Unfortunately, the demand for commercial sex is precisely what drives human trafficking! On this podcast, we discuss aspects of modern masculinity with leaders across various social justice and professional backgrounds so you can increase your tools for navigating the Masculine Wilderness.
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Rooted in Healing: Culture, Care, and Courage in Hawaii’s Fight Against Child Trafficking with Jessica Muñoz
In this episode of The Masculine Wilderness, host Tom Perez sits down with Jess Muñoz, founder and CEO of Hoʻoʻa Na Pua, to explore her transformative journey from a nurse to a frontline advocate battling child trafficking and exploitation. Jess opens up about the roots of her personal calling, revealing how Hawaiian culture, trauma-informed care, and a deep understanding of masculinity intertwine in the work of healing and prevention.Listeners will uncover powerful insights into how men can step forward as active change-makers dismantling systems of harm. From the hidden intersections of tourism and trafficking to redefining fatherhood and confronting the cultural impact of pornography, this conversation invites every listener to rethink what strength and compassion truly mean in the modern world.It’s an episode about courage, cultural identity, and the radical power of community action, the kind that inspires us to look inward so we can change what’s around us.Keywords: trauma-informed care, Hawaii, child trafficking, masculinity, healing, survivor advocacy, fatherhood, cultural identity, demand reduction, community mobilizationKey Topics:What trauma-informed care looks like in healing.Cultural influences that shape exploitation and recovery in Hawaii.The evolving role of masculinity and fatherhood in prevention.How pornography fuels demand and perpetuates exploitation.Concrete community and policy steps to protect children and build resilience.Action Items:Join local men’s circles or community discussions about trafficking prevention.Fathers model emotional presence and accountability at home.Support organizations and policies protecting children from exploitation.Educate yourself and others about the connection between pornography and demand.Share this episode to start tough but necessary conversations.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast00:27 The Birth of Ho'o'a Na Pua00:54 Recognizing Child Exploitation02:19 Creating Healing Pathways for Victims04:03 The Moment of Realization05:39 A Calling to Shine Light in Darkness06:52 Understanding the Indicators of Exploitation08:47 The Significance of Naming the Organization10:50 Cultivating New Life for Children11:45 Personalized Healing Journeys15:10 Empowering Agency in Healing16:42 Understanding Hawaii's Unique Challenges18:54 The Intersection of Tourism and Trafficking21:05 The Role of Geography and Economics22:07 Men's Role in Addressing Trafficking23:45 The Importance of Fatherhood25:37 Holding Men Accountable26:39 The Power of Presence28:32 Challenging Malignant Masculinity30:53 Cultural Nuances and Redefining Masculinity32:13 The Impact of Pornography on Society36:17 Understanding Trauma in Survivors42:13 Trauma-Informed Care Explained48:29 Men's Role in Healing and Prevention52:02 Finding Hope and Purpose in DarknessLet's Connect:www.hoolanapua.orgwww.epikproject.org
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Winning at Home: Coaching Boys Into Men with Spencer Crace
What if the most important victories in sports never show up on the scoreboard?In this powerful episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom sits down with Spencer Crace, college football coach and mentor, for a deeply honest conversation about masculinity, leadership, and the sacred responsibility of shaping young men through sport.Spencer shares his journey into coaching and the moments that refined his philosophy, not just about winning games, but about building character, resilience, and brotherhood. Together, they unpack the invisible pressures facing young men today: comparison culture, criticism, identity confusion, and the quiet loss of free play that once taught boys how to fail, adapt, and lead themselves.This episode goes far beyond X’s and O’s. It’s about fatherhood, patience forged through injury, the power of accountability within a team, and why coaches may be some of the most influential male role models a young man ever encounters. Spencer offers a grounded, compelling vision of leadership, one rooted in presence, humility, and integrity.At the heart of the conversation is a simple but radical idea: you don’t win on the field if you’re losing at home. For coaches, parents, and men alike, this episode is a reminder that the greatest measure of success is who you become and who you help others become along the way.00:00 — Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast 02:02 — Spencer Crace: A Coach’s Journey 03:48 — Sports and Character Development 07:47 — Leadership Lessons from Youth Sports 10:51 — Criticism, Pressure, and Mental Toughness 14:21 — Injury and the Discipline of Patience 16:41 — Brotherhood and Team Culture 18:55 — Taking Team Values Into Real Life 22:29 — The Coach’s Role in Shaping Young Men 24:50 — Fatherhood and Coaching: Parallel Callings 29:29 — The Comparison Trap in Modern Sports 33:19 — Why Free Play Still Matters 36:03 — Challenges Facing Young Men Today 39:16 — Redefining What It Means to WinLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgDONATE:https://funraise.org/give/Epik-Project/6e9de4e6-5b6d-4333-bd08-c043cd690405/
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Inside the NFL: Courage, Culture & the Future of Leadership with Megha Parekh
What does healthy masculinity look like in one of the most hyper-masculine spaces in the world?In this powerful episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom sits down with Megha Parekh, one of the few female executives working inside the NFL, for a rare and honest conversation about masculinity, leadership, and cultural change in professional sports.Megha shares her journey into the league, navigating bias, earning trust, and helping shape environments where accountability and empathy aren’t liabilities, but strengths. Together, they explore the evolving realities of masculinity in sports, the slow but meaningful erosion of misogyny in the workplace, and why courageous conversations matter more now than ever.This episode goes beyond locker rooms and boardrooms. Megha and Tom examine the outsized cultural influence of professional sports, how athletes and organizations model behavior for millions, and why mental health awareness, ethical leadership, and human dignity must be part of the conversation. From addressing exploitation and trafficking to mentoring young athletes, Megha offers a grounded, hopeful vision for what leadership can become.This is a conversation about power, responsibility, and the freedom that comes from showing up as your full self, regardless of expectations.Chapters00:00 — Introduction to Masculine Wilderness01:24 — Megha’s Journey to the NFL03:27 — Expanding Roles in Professional Sports08:21 — The Complexity of Masculinity in Sports14:10 — Addressing Misogyny and Bias18:04 — Creating a Supportive Work Environment24:22 — Empathy and Accountability in the Workplace30:00 — The Influence of Professional Sports on Masculinity31:59 — Raising Awareness Around Mental Health36:59 — Collaborating for Social Change41:27 — Understanding the Buyer in Human Trafficking47:11 — Empathy and Accountability in Justice51:19 — Planting Seeds of Courage in Young Athletes52:27 — Finding Hope in Cultural ChangeLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orghttps://www.instagram.com/epik_project/https://www.jaguars.com/
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Why Listening Might Be the Most Radical Skill of Our Time with Jenni Lippold
In this powerful episode of the Masculine Wilderness podcast, Tom Perez sits down with Jenni Lippold, a people technologist, StoryCorp enthusiast, and a relentless believer in the power of human connection. Together, they explore how storytelling can soften political divides, dissolve concepts of the “other,” and transform our understanding of trauma, fear, and one another.Drawing from over 12,000 recorded Storycore conversations, Jenni brings rare insight into what people are really longing for: to be heard, to be seen, and to matter. She breaks down why empathy isn’t just a virtue, it’s a skill, a practice, and a survival tool in a polarized world.They dig into StoryCorps’ groundbreaking One Small Step initiative, which pairs Americans on opposite sides of the political spectrum for deeply human, surprisingly tender conversations. Through these stories, Jenni reveals the vulnerability, courage, and hope that emerge when we dare to listen past the noise.This is an episode about connection, compassion, and the radical possibilities that open when we stop asking, “What do you believe?” and start asking, “What’s your story?”Chapters:00:00 — Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:37 — Jenni Lippold: A People Technologist’s Journey04:20 — StoryCorps: Archiving Humanity’s Stories06:08 — One Small Step: Bridging Political Divides11:48 — Digital Conversations: The Evolution of Engagement15:10 — Insights from 12,000 Conversations21:24 — Empathy: The Key to Understanding27:49 — The Power of Shared Stories33:54 — The Role of Empathy in Change34:23 — The Power of Data in Empathy-Building39:22 — Storytelling’s Impact on Understanding45:21 — Children and the Magic of Storytelling49:33 — Trauma & Connection Through Shared Stories51:10 — Fear, Human Behavior, and the “Other”53:18 — The Future of Empathy Initiatives01:02:43 — Masculine Wilderness ThemeLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orghttps://storycorps.org/
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Roots & Responsibility: A Conversation on Alaska, Identity, and Human Trafficking with Josie Heyano
This episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast is nothing short of extraordinary. Host Tom Perez sits down with Josie Heyano, an Alaska-based social worker whose depth of insight, cultural grounding, and fierce compassion bring a rare clarity to conversations about masculinity, exploitation, and community healing.What unfolds is a deeply moving exploration of Indigenous identity, relational accountability, and the complex realities of human trafficking in Alaska—a region where historical trauma, geographic isolation, and systemic inequities converge in devastating ways. Josie breaks down concepts like tundra pimping with honesty and nuance, exposing the long-standing roots of exploitation targeting Indigenous youth and rural communities.But this episode isn’t just about the problem; it’s about the power of culture, connection, and collective care. Josie shares how Indigenous frameworks of interconnectedness offer pathways for healing, resilience, and prevention. She invites listeners to reconsider their relationship with anger, describing how women’s anger is often a powerful, defiant force for change, and how men’s anger can be transformed into grounded leadership and accountability.Throughout the conversation, Josie weaves together personal narrative, cultural wisdom, and professional experience to illuminate what true community responsibility looks like. From the role of beauty and creativity in surviving hardship to the slow work of building trust across generations, this episode challenges listeners to show up more thoughtfully, more courageously, and more relationally.This is an episode that lingers... a call to remember where we come from, who we are accountable to, and how we can show up for one another with more heart.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:47 Josie Heyano's Cultural Introduction03:42 Personal Stories and Connections to Alaska05:52 Human Trafficking in Alaska10:13 Roots of Exploitation in Alaska15:06 The Role of Anger in Advocacy19:46 Gender Dynamics of Anger25:07 Men in Leadership and Community Responsibility29:59 Listening and Respecting Women's Anger34:31 The Shift in Human Trafficking Dynamics35:55 Emotional Healing Through Connection36:12 Traditional Practices and Gender Roles40:18 Balancing Roles in Caregiving42:12 Cultural Practices and Community Care45:11 The Power of Relational Care48:39 The Role of Beauty in Healing54:38 Reconnecting with Roots and Traditions58:36 Hope in Advocacy and Community Resilience01:04:00 A Message to Men: Building Trust and Awareness01:08:14 Masculine Wilderness Theme.mp3Let's Connect:www.epikproject.orghttps://www.signifyconsultingak.org/
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Justice Reimagined: How Empathy, Data & Collaboration Can Stop Trafficking Before It Starts with Kristen Hubbell
What if the future of justice isn’t about punishment—but prevention?In this episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Kristen Hubbell—former FBI agent and founder of Prevention Now—shares her extraordinary journey from federal law enforcement to leading one of the most innovative organizations in the fight against human trafficking.Kristen reveals why justice without empathy falls short, why collaboration across communities is non-negotiable, and how technology—from big data to artificial intelligence—is reshaping what prevention can look like. Her insights challenge us to think differently about exploitation, not only as a criminal issue but as a human one that requires humility, curiosity, and shared responsibility.And for men listening, this conversation is especially urgent: Kristen offers a direct call to action for how men can step into leadership, accountability, and advocacy in the fight to protect the vulnerable.This episode isn’t just about trafficking—it’s about redefining justice for a new era. 00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:03 Kristin Hubbell’s Journey into Anti-Violence Work03:38 Evolving Understanding of Justice05:35 Responsibility for Justice07:18 Transition from FBI to Anti-Trafficking Work10:53 Founding Prevention Now14:10 The Importance of Collaboration15:10 Data as a Storytelling Tool18:03 Empathy in Law Enforcement22:13 Integrating Collaboration in Anti-Trafficking Work26:57 Collaborative Efforts Against Human Trafficking28:51 Utilizing Data for Community Collaboration32:13 Understanding Risk Factors in Human Trafficking36:18 The Role of Technology and AI in Prevention44:06 Empathy and Understanding in Addressing Exploitation47:55 Defining Prevention in the Anti-Trafficking Movement🎧 Listen now and discover how empathy, collaboration, and innovation can transform the fight against trafficking.Let’s Connect:🌐 Learn more about Kristin’s work: www.prevention-now.org🌐 Explore the movement to disrupt exploitation: www.epikproject.org
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The Weight of Telling the Truth: A Survivor’s Journey to Advocacy with Kathy Bryan
What does it cost to turn your pain into purpose, and how do you keep going when the weight of your story feels unbearable?In this powerful episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Kathy Bryan, founder of The Genesis Project and a survivor of human trafficking, opens up about the long, courageous road from survival to leadership. With unflinching honesty, Kathy shares what it truly means to become an advocate while still carrying the emotional residue of past trauma.This conversation goes far beyond statistics or headlines. It’s a deep dive into the realities of trafficking across urban and rural communities and the nuanced challenges survivors face when their stories become public tools for change. Kathy doesn’t just share her experience; she issues a call to action.You’ll hear about the critical role parents play in prevention, why traffickers are targeting increasingly younger children, and how digital culture has transformed the landscape of exploitation. Kathy offers practical, heartfelt advice for families navigating a world that often feels out of control and reveals what true connection looks like between parents and children.This episode is a gut-check, a guide, and a testament to the power of resilience. If you want to understand the human side of trafficking and how to make a real difference, start here.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:36 Kathy's Journey: From Trafficking to Advocacy09:31 The Cost of Sharing a Survivor's Story14:49 The Genesis Project: Building Futures22:22 Understanding Trafficking in Rural Communities24:54 Statistics and Myths Surrounding Trafficking28:26 Understanding the Risks: A Shocking Reality31:07 Empowering Parents: Navigating Safety in a Digital World33:49 The Harsh Truth: Child Trafficking vs. Other Dangers36:38 Breaking the Silence: The Stigma of Sex Trafficking41:08 The Role of Men: Accountability and Cultural Change47:39 Survivor Perspectives: The Emotional Toll of Injustice50:45 Practical Advice for Parents: Engaging with Your Children52:10 Masculine Wilderness Theme.mp3Let's Connect:www.epikproject.orghttps://thegenesisproject.lifehttps://www.instagram.com/simplykathy/, https://www.instagram.com/thegenesisprojectlife/ https://www.facebook.com/simplykathy/ https://www.facebook.com/thegenesisprojectlife
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The Way Back to Yourself: Emotional Mastery, Masculinity & the Rise of Men’s Work with Andrew Carruthers
Why are so many men disconnected from their inner lives and what does it take to find the way back?In this intimate and soul-stirring episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Andrew Carruthers invites us into a conversation many men never get to have about shame, emotional expression, and the quiet longing for authenticity. A former hairdresser turned Wayfinder, Andrew has spent years helping others navigate their emotional terrain, and now he’s sharing the raw truths and hard-earned wisdom that shape his work.Together, Andrew and Tom explore the cost of silence in men’s lives, the weight of unspoken guilt, the armor of stoicism, and the stories that keep us from fully showing up. But this isn't a conversation about what’s wrong with men. It's a powerful reckoning with what’s possible for men: real emotional presence, radical self-awareness, and a return to community.They go deep on the cultural rise of men’s work, not as a trend, but as a response to crisis. Andrew speaks directly to young men craving purpose, connection, and a path toward wholeness. His message is clear: you are not broken but must be brave enough to meet yourself.If you're ready to drop the mask and step into something deeper, this episode will challenge you, inspire you, and leave you feeling less alone.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:10 Andrew Carruthers: The Wayfinder Journey03:19 From Hairdressing to Coaching: A Personal Evolution09:49 Understanding the Clientele: Leaders and Educators14:39 Masculine Mythology: Shaping Identity and Work18:35 Emotional Presence: Challenges for Men24:45 The Role of Shame in Men's Lives25:36 The Cycle of Shame and Confirmation Bias26:57 The Power of Men's Groups29:09 Cultural Expectations of Masculinity31:22 The Evolution of Men's Work33:31 Emotional Expression in Older Generations36:38 Tools for Emotional Awareness39:20 Difficult Conversations for Older Men41:47 Rites of Passage and the Role of Elders45:01 The Openness of Younger Generations47:21 Finding Enoughness and Community Support49:14 New ChapterLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgwww.outofstep.lifeDonate: www.epikproject.org/donate
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Healing the Wound: Masculinity, Exploitation & the Power of Story with Penny Ronning
What if the key to ending exploitation lies in the courage to tell the truth?In this gripping and deeply personal episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Penny Ronning—leader of the Yellowstone Anti-Trafficking Task Force—shares a raw and unfiltered look at the realities of commercial sexual exploitation and why men must be part of the solution.Through the lens of her own family’s history—marked by her mother’s survival of childhood trauma—Penny opens a powerful dialogue on how generational wounds shape us, and how storytelling can become a lifeline for healing. This isn’t just a policy conversation—it’s a human one.Together, Penny and Tom tackle the uncomfortable questions many avoid: What does it mean to be a man in a world where children are sold for sex? How can we hold space for both accountability and empathy? And what kind of leadership does it take to dismantle an industry built on silence?They explore the urgent need for cultural shifts, community-based solutions, and legislative change—but more importantly, they underscore why men’s voices are essential in this movement. This episode is a rallying cry for courageous leadership, emotional honesty, and relentless compassion.If you care about protecting the most vulnerable, if you believe that healing is possible, and if you're ready to face hard truths with an open heart, this episode is your invitation.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Masculinity and Healing02:40 Penny Ronning's Journey and Background05:59 The Impact of Trauma on Lives11:37 Legislation and Advocacy for Survivors14:35 The Power of Storytelling in Healing17:30 The Intersection of Art and Activism24:05 Challenging Myths About Trafficking29:15 Legislative Changes in Montana33:58 Understanding the Demand for Exploitation36:10 Collaborative Efforts Against Exploitation37:22 The Role of Men in Addressing Exploitation40:32 Empowering Voices in the Conversation43:39 Humanity at the Core of the Issue46:31 Community Solutions to a Societal Problem50:15 Cultural Change and Responsibility52:44 Mobilizing Male Allies55:39 Leadership and Courage in AdvocacyLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgInstagram: @pennyronningLinkedIn: Penny Ronning on LinkedInTed Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czwA-IY89R8&t=657s
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Masculinity on the Edge: Grievance Politics, Andrew Tate & More with Dr. Pasha Dashtgard
What’s really driving the rise of male supremacy—and how do we bring young men back from the edge? In this gripping and timely episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Dr. Pasha Dashtgard unpacks the complex, high-stakes terrain of modern masculinity in an age defined by digital distortion, political polarization, and emotional disconnection.This conversation dives deep into the undercurrent of grievance politics—how a generation of disillusioned young men is being radicalized by influencers like Andrew Tate, and what that says about the state of modern manhood. But this isn’t a takedown—it’s an excavation. What’s missing in the lives of these men? What’s the void they’re trying to fill? And how can society respond without shame or silence?The conversation doesn’t shy away from the emotional labor men have long suppressed—or the toll that takes on women and communities. Instead, it offers a bold vision for healing: grounded in relational intelligence, responsibility, and the courage to redefine what strength actually looks like.This episode is a wake-up call, a roadmap, and a challenge. If you're a man searching for meaning, a parent raising sons, or someone who simply wants to understand the cultural reckoning happening right now—press play.This is the conversation we all need to be having.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:52 The Rise of Male Supremacy and Online Radicalization05:23 Grievance Politics and Its Historical Roots12:25 The Impact of Rapid Social Change on Masculinity15:44 Current Masculine Currents: Male Supremacy, Misogyny, and Isolation23:24 The Impact of Masculinity on Self-Perception29:24 Isolation and Emotional Labor in Male Relationships35:27 The Influence of Andrew Tate and Male Supremacy40:00 Building Healthier Masculinity: Solutions and Strategies51:45 Masculine Wilderness Theme.mp3Let's Connect:www.epikproject.orgwww.instagram.org/epik_projecthttps://perilresearch.com/team/pasha-dashtgard/
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The Cost of Silence: Trauma, Healing & the Role of Men in Breaking the Cycle
What happens when a survivor becomes the leader of a movement? In this raw and deeply human episode, Tom sits down with Toni McKinley—Executive Director of the Magdalen House in Austin, Texas, and a survivor of sex trafficking herself—for one of the most profound conversations this show has ever hosted.Toni doesn't just talk about trauma—she’s lived it, studied it, and transformed it into powerful leadership. Together, Tom and Toni unpack what trauma actually does to the brain, how memory is affected by abuse, and why traditional approaches to healing often fall short. But this conversation isn’t about theory—it’s about what it takes to rebuild your life from the ground up and why safe, supportive housing is absolutely essential for recovery.And for the men listening—this one is especially for you. Toni speaks directly to the heart of what it means to be a man in today’s world. She challenges the cultural narratives that silence men emotionally and shares actionable tools for self-reflection, emotional growth, and healing generational wounds. They explore how men can show up—truly show up—for their families, their partners, and themselves.This episode will shift your perspective on trauma, leadership, and the real meaning of resilience. If you’ve ever wondered how to break cycles of pain and step into a role of healing and leadership, this is your blueprint.Warning: This conversation might just change the way you see yourself.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Magdalen House and Its Mission03:00 Understanding the Need for Supportive Housing05:57 The Impact of Trauma on Survivors09:07 Toni's Personal Journey and Healing Process11:55 The Science of Trauma and Its Effects14:49 Navigating Trauma Responses18:01 Resilience and Recovery from Trauma21:06 The Importance of Understanding Trauma24:06 Toni's Story and the Power of Narrative30:54 Understanding Trauma and Memory32:31 The Importance of Relationships in Healing34:54 Community and Connection: Healing Together35:42 Navigating Relationships Post-Trauma40:14 The Role of Men in Healing and Relationships45:01 Men and Trauma: Breaking the Cycle51:27 Agency in Healing: Taking Responsibility54:07 Advice for Men: Healing Starts at HomeLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orghttps://www.magdaleneaustin.orghttps://www.tonimckinley.com/Instagram:@MagdaleneATX@Toni_Adventures1Facebook:MagdaleneATX on FacebookLinkedIn:Toni McKinley on LinkedInMagdalene House of Austin on LinkedIn
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The Next Generation of Change: How Young Advocates Are Fighting Exploitation with Sarina Cooper and Ashlynn Fredendall
What does it really take to dismantle systems of exploitation? In this powerful episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez sits down with trailblazing advocates Sarina Cooper and Ashlynn Fredendall for an eye-opening conversation about the urgent fight against sex trafficking and exploitation. They pull back the curtain on their journeys into advocacy, revealing the deep connections between sustainability, social justice, and the movement to protect the most vulnerable.Together, they explore the growing wave of young leaders stepping up to drive cultural change, the vital role of men in reshaping narratives around exploitation, and the responsibility of older generations to support and uplift the next wave of advocates. This conversation isn’t just about the problem—it’s about the solutions, the hope, and the momentum building in the fight for justice.Packed with raw insights, inspiring success stories, and hard-hitting truths, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand how we can dismantle systems of harm and create a future rooted in empowerment and human connection. Don’t miss the closing reflections on self-care, resilience, and why no advocate should have to walk this path alone.Tune in now—this is a conversation that could change everything.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:03 Understanding the Work of World Without Exploitation and My Friends Are Not For Sale02:54 Personal Journeys into Advocacy05:59 The Intersection of Sustainability and Social Justice11:28 Mobilizing Youth Against Exploitation14:43 The Role of Peer-to-Peer Education18:52 Success Stories in Advocacy25:26 The Impact of Direct Human Connection27:31 The Influence of Andrew Tate on Young Men34:16 Young Men Advocating Against Misogyny40:13 Supporting Youth in the Fight Against Exploitation47:26 Finding Life Beyond Advocacy50:20 Masculine Wilderness ThemeLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgwww.epikrpoject.org/myfriendsarenotforsalewww.worldwithoutexploitation.orgwww.worldwithoutexploitation.org/youth
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From the Field to Fatherhood: Ashton Clark on Manhood, Mentorship & Legacy
In this episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez sits down with educator and coach Ashton Clark for a powerful conversation about resilience, growth, and the impact of mentorship. Ashton takes us on a journey from his early years in Vancouver, Washington, through the highs and challenges of college football, and into his current role as a counselor and coach.They explore how sports shape character, the pressures of athletic culture, and the pivotal moments that define Ashton’s path. He opens up about personal loss, the importance of community, and the values that guide him as a husband and father. With reflections on his relationship with his wife, Aisha, and his hopes for his children’s future, Ashton shares hard-won lessons on love, respect, and the power of showing up for others.This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating life’s transitions, seeking wisdom on raising the next generation or looking for inspiration on turning challenges into growth.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:20 Ashton's Journey: From Student to Counselor03:52 Formative Experiences of Manhood09:43 The Impact of Sports on Character14:42 Transitioning to College Football21:30 Navigating College Sports Culture28:19 Transitioning from Athletics to Life Beyond32:39 Facing Tragedy and Finding Purpose35:40 The Importance of Brotherhood and Community41:03 Love and Relationships: A Journey with Aisha46:34 Parenting with Intent: Values and Lessons49:02 Challenges Facing Today's Youth53:00 Hopes for the Future: Raising Respectful ChildrenLet's Connect:www.epikproject.org
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Breaking the Cycle of Shame: A Path to Healing & Redemption with Gene McConnell
Shame thrives in silence, but what happens when we finally confront it? In this episode, Gene McConnell shares his raw and deeply personal journey from addiction and self-destruction to redemption, revealing the transformative power of vulnerability, love, and accountability.Together with host Tom Perez, Gene unpacks the hidden wounds of childhood trauma, the isolating nature of shame, and how modern society’s shifting landscape affects men’s emotional well-being. This conversation dives deep into the generational patterns of disconnection, the societal pressures that keep men from seeking help, and the essential role of authentic relationships in personal growth.If you’ve ever struggled with your past or questioned how to foster healthier relationships, this episode is for you. Tune in as Gene and Tom explore the power of storytelling, the necessity of safe spaces for vulnerability, and the profound impact men can have when they choose to heal and lead with courage.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Healing Journeys02:17 Expanding Impact and Influence05:44 The Path to Redemption08:13 Childhood Trauma and Its Effects12:28 The Destructive Cycle of Shame14:25 Turning Point: A Moment of Clarity18:51 The Power of Connection and Love22:51 Reflections on Change Over Time28:33 Navigating Modern Challenges32:51 The Power of Intimacy and Connection34:10 Disconnection in a Connected World35:08 Generational Perspectives on Shame36:05 Youth and Vulnerability: A New Approach39:30 Authenticity and Safe Spaces for Healing41:07 The Impact of Storytelling in Redemption43:53 Addressing the Demand: The Why Behind Actions48:55 Creating Change Through Accountability52:46 Empowering the Next Generation of Men57:50 Sustaining Personal Well-Being in Challenging WorkLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgwww.authenticrelationshipsint.com
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The Cyber Fight Against Human Trafficking & The Power of Brotherhood – Ryan McCullough
What if the key to fighting human trafficking wasn’t just law enforcement action but everyday men stepping up with empathy, courage, and connection?In this gripping episode of The Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom sits down with Ryan McCullough, a dedicated cyber-patrol volunteer for Epik since 2017. Ryan takes us behind the scenes of digital operations that disrupt trafficking networks, sharing the raw reality of what it takes to confront this issue head-on.They explore:🔥 The surprising role of empathy in combating trafficking🔥 The evolving landscape of sex buying and online exploitation🔥 How fatherhood and masculinity shape Ryan’s perspective on advocacy🔥 The importance of men building deep community to drive real changeThis conversation challenges the traditional narrative around trafficking and offers a powerful call to action for men who want to make a difference. If you’re ready to rethink what it means to protect and lead, this episode is a must-listen.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast02:44 Understanding Cyber Patrols and Their Purpose06:29 The Journey to Empathy in Addressing Trafficking11:15 First Experiences in Cyber Patrols13:50 The Importance of Team Dynamics in Patrols16:38 Changes in the Sex Buying Culture21:50 Conversations with Buyers: Troubling and Hopeful Stories27:12 The Importance of Human Connection31:57 Men Supporting Men: The Power of Positive Reinforcement34:55 Cultural Narratives and the Fight Against Sex Trafficking40:15 Fatherhood and Its Impact on Advocacy47:39 Processing Experiences: Emotional and Spiritual Reflections51:08 Life Beyond Patrol: Finding Balance and Community54:18 Encouraging Active Participation in Society55:58 Introduction and Gratitude56:07 Masculine Wilderness Theme.Let's Connect:www.epikproject.org
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The Evolution of Anti-Trafficking Efforts with Elizabeth Scaife
Elizabeth Scaife is a long-time advocate against human trafficking, her formative experiences, and the evolution of the movement over the past 16 years are discussed in this episode. The conversation highlights the importance of survivor voices, the challenges that remain in the field, and the need for cultural shifts in understanding and addressing trafficking. Elizabeth shares insights on the complexities of the issue, including the intersection of labor trafficking and the ongoing stigma surrounding victimization. In this conversation, Tom and Elizabeth discuss the complexities of engaging men in social change, particularly in the context of human trafficking. They explore the myth of the 'action hero' and emphasize the importance of mentorship and community involvement. Elizabeth shares insights on the significance of survivor voices and the need for resources that amplify their stories. The discussion also touches on self-care for advocates and offers advice for men who wish to contribute positively to the fight against exploitation.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the Conversation01:32 Elizabeth Scaife's Journey in Anti-Trafficking07:07 Formative Experiences in the Field16:01 Evolution of the Anti-Trafficking Movement25:53 Current Challenges and Future Directions32:38 The Action Hero Myth34:00 Engaging Men in Social Change36:06 Mentorship as a Tool Against Trafficking37:30 Redefining Heroism39:27 The Importance of Survivor Voices40:22 Creating Resources for Awareness43:51 The Role of Survivor Stories47:21 Navigating Survivor Narratives50:54 Self-Care in Advocacy54:58 Advice for Men in AdvocacyLet's Connect:FYN Global: https://www.findyournorthglobal.com/Books by Survivors Guide: https://www.findyournorthglobal.com/resourcelibraryGrit Conference: https://uprisingwyo.org/grit/Epik Project: https://www.epikproject.org/
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The Dark Reality of Sex Buyers with Yasmin Vafa
Yasmin Vafa, founder of Rights for Girls, returns to the podcast for a second time to discuss the recently published report 'Buyers Unmasked.' The report aims to expose the realities of sex buyers, dispelling myths about their nature and behaviors. Yasmin shares insights from sex buyers' review boards, highlighting the disturbing attitudes and actions of these individuals. The conversation also touches on the societal implications of these findings, the response from survivors, and the need for policy changes to address the issue of sex trafficking and exploitation. In this conversation, Yasmin Vafa discusses the critical issues surrounding gender equality, objectification, and the violence inherent in the sex trade. She emphasizes the importance of promoting healthy relationships among young men and boys, understanding the connections between racism and misogyny, and the need for innovative solutions to combat these societal issues. Vafa also highlights the role of policy in addressing prostitution and trafficking, advocating for a survivor model that prioritizes the dignity and worth of individuals involved in the sex trade. Finally, she calls for men to engage as allies in the fight for equality and to challenge unacceptable behaviors in society.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:22 Overview of the 'Buyers Unmasked' Report06:00 Insights from Sex Buyers' Review Boards11:49 The Disturbing Reality of Sex Buyers20:39 Response to the Report and Its Impact24:49 Challenging Myths About Sex Buyers28:25 Promoting Healthy Relationships and Gender Equality29:28 Understanding Objectification and Fetishization31:33 The Connection Between Racism and Misogyny34:44 Violence and Exploitation in the Sex Trade37:49 Innovative Solutions and Recommendations44:24 Policy Approaches to Prostitution and Trafficking48:51 Engaging Men as Allies in the Fight for EqualityLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgwww.rights4girls.orgBuyers Unmasked Report: https://rights4girls.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Buyers-Unmasked.pdf
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Exploring Vulnerability Through Film with Irene Taylor
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a deep conversation with award-winning filmmaker Irene Taylor. Irene's films, most recently a documentary on Celine Dion, also include exposes on the abuse uncovered within the ranks of The Boy Scouts as well as the Slenderman case. On the podcast, Tom and Irene explore storytelling's transformative power, character-driven narratives' importance, and the intersection of personal experiences with filmmaking. Irene shares her journey as a filmmaker, discussing various projects that tackle sensitive topics and the significance of open-ended questions in drawing out vulnerability. The conversation also touches on gender dynamics in storytelling and the essential role of attention in creating meaningful connections. In this conversation, Tom and Irene discuss the importance of presence and attention in human interactions, the power of vulnerability in making connections, and the challenges of navigating trauma and empathy in storytelling. They explore Irene's journey into filmmaking, the emotional weight of the stories she tells, and the foundational role of love in personal growth and relationships.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest01:30 Irene Taylor: A Filmmaker's Journey04:41 The Power of Storytelling in Film08:59 Exploring Diverse Film Projects12:21 Addressing Sensitive Topics Through Film16:20 The Importance of Open-Ended Questions22:06 Gender Dynamics in Storytelling25:51 Creating Vulnerability Through Attention28:54 The Power of Presence and Attention31:09 Vulnerability: The Human Connection36:10 Navigating Trauma and Empathy43:53 The Journey to Filmmaking and Storytelling49:11 Love as the Foundation for GrowthLet's Connectwww.epikproject.orghttps://vermilionfilms.com/
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Teamwork in Life and Sports w/ Former NFL Player Andy McCollum
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a heartfelt conversation with retired NFL player Andy McCollum. They explore Andy's transition from professional football to a successful career in financial advising, the joys and challenges of family life, and the unique experiences of being part of a Super Bowl-winning team. Andy shares insights on the importance of teamwork, humility, and maintaining a positive locker room culture while reflecting on the realities of life as an athlete and the lessons learned along the way. In this conversation, Tom and Andy explore the multifaceted aspects of being a professional athlete, the importance of teamwork, the challenges of injuries, and the significance of identity and mentorship in both sports and life. They discuss the dynamics of trash talk in football, the mindset of athletes before games, and the lessons learned from a career in sports that translate into personal and professional relationships. The conversation also delves into the role of fatherhood in shaping identity and values, the importance of community and male relationships, and the hope found in the next generation of young men.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:07 Life After Football: Transitioning to Financial Advising03:27 Family Dynamics: The Joys of Grandparenting06:54 The Journey to the NFL: From Underdog to Super Bowl Champion12:40 The Super Bowl Experience: Memories and Expectations16:07 Building a Positive Locker Room Culture18:40 The Reality of Locker Room Talk and Team Dynamics24:10 Humility and Confidence in Professional Sports28:29 The Art of Trash Talk in Football30:54 The Pre-Game Mindset of Professional Athletes32:43 Injuries and Resilience in a Football Career34:32 The Difference Between Raw Power and Useful Strength36:32 Teamwork: Lessons from the Field to Life39:57 The Importance of Male Relationships41:17 Fatherhood and Identity Transformation46:22 Instilling Values in the Next Generation48:26 Finding Joy Beyond Football51:40 Hope for the Next Generation of Men55:42 Defining True ManhoodLet's Connectwww.epikproject.org
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Community Collaboration in the Face of Trafficking with Tina Taylor Sims
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a profound conversation with Tina Taylor Sims, a survivor and advocate against human trafficking. They explore Tina's journey, her work in Humboldt County addressing trafficking, and the importance of community collaboration. The discussion also delves into the intersection of the Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women (MMIW) movement and trafficking, highlighting the vulnerabilities faced by Indigenous communities. Tina shares her insights on the misconceptions surrounding trafficking and the systemic issues that perpetuate these problems. In this conversation, Tina Taylor and Tom Perez explore the complexities of vulnerability, exploitation, and resilience within Indigenous communities. They discuss the impact of cultural connection on healing, the significance of traditional practices, and the importance of belonging. Tina shares her journey of healing through cultural identity and tattoos, emphasizing the need for support and understanding in combating exploitation. The conversation highlights the role of cultural competency and the necessity of long-term commitment in addressing these issues.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:39 Tina Taylor Sims: A Personal Journey04:44 Addressing Human Trafficking in Humboldt County10:24 Understanding Survivor Experiences14:52 Community Collaboration Against Trafficking18:03 The Intersection of MMIW and Trafficking22:54 Vulnerabilities in Indigenous Communities25:18 Vulnerability and Exploitation in Foster Care26:16 Cultural Connection and Resilience in Indigenous Communities28:09 The Healing Power of Tradition and Belonging30:36 The Significance of Tattoos in Cultural Identity32:23 The Irony of Belonging and Isolation34:14 Learning and Borrowing from Other Cultures38:52 Cultural Competency and Asking Questions41:23 Going Long and Deep in the Fight Against Exploitation46:48 Encouragement for Men to Support Vulnerable Individuals
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Familial Trafficking & Resilience with Zoe Bellatorre
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez speaks with Zoe Bellatorre, an expert in familial trafficking. They discuss Zoe's background, her work with survivors, and the critical issue of familial trafficking, which often goes unnoticed. The conversation delves into the differences between familial trafficking and other forms, the impact of early trauma on victims, and the societal reluctance to acknowledge these issues. Zoe emphasizes the importance of community awareness and the need for safe spaces for children, as well as the indicators that can help identify potential victims. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to believe survivors and take steps to create safer environments for children. In this conversation, Zoe Christine Belllatorre and Tom Perez discuss the critical issues surrounding familial trafficking, the importance of community awareness, and the role of educators and parents in safeguarding children. They explore the trauma experienced by victims, the resilience required for recovery, and the need for advocacy and research in this area. The conversation emphasizes the importance of building supportive networks and recognizing the signs of trafficking within families, ultimately calling for a collective effort to protect vulnerable children.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast06:02 The Scope of Familial Trafficking11:55 The Impact of Early Trauma18:00 The Reluctance to Acknowledge Familial Trafficking23:53 The Role of Community in Prevention29:59 Building Awareness and Response Strategies36:25 Community Awareness and Child Safety49:03 Resilience and Building Support Systems55:22 Recognizing Signs of Familial Trafficking01:02:18 Empowering Teachers and Parents for Child ProtectionLet's Connectwww.epikproject.orghttps://youbelongllc.com/
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Strength and Purpose with Isaac McKeithen
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a deep conversation with Isaac McKeithen, exploring his journey from martial arts instructor to a leader in the anti-human trafficking movement. They discuss the influence of military discipline on Isaac's life, his career transitions, and the importance of teamwork in various roles. The conversation also delves into the heartbreaking realities of human trafficking, particularly in areas like Figueroa Avenue in Los Angeles, and the challenges faced by law enforcement in addressing these issues. Throughout the discussion, themes of strength, purpose, and personal growth are emphasized, highlighting the impact of mentorship and community service. In this conversation, Isaac and Tom discuss the complexities of law enforcement in addressing human trafficking, particularly the challenges faced by police and prosecutors. They share personal experiences of interacting with buyers, revealing the motivations behind their actions, often rooted in loneliness and a desire for companionship. The discussion emphasizes the importance of healthy male relationships and community engagement in combating trafficking. They also highlight the diversity within their teams and the significance of having difficult conversations about sex and exploitation. The conversation concludes with a focus on the impact of role models and the next generation's responsibility to make a difference.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast06:01 Military Influence: Discipline and Leadership12:06 The Power of Teamwork in the Railroad Industry18:07 The Call to Action: Involvement in Anti-Human Trafficking24:00 Figueroa: A Hub of Human Trafficking30:00 Conclusion: Strength, Power, and Purpose36:18 Challenges in Law Enforcement and Prosecution43:00 The Role of Healthy Male Relationships50:04 Haunting Encounters with Buyers01:01:25 The Importance of Conversations01:07:25 Encouraging the Next GenerationLet's Connect:www.epikproject.org
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The Intersection of Pornography and Trafficking with Helen Taylor
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a profound conversation with Helen Taylor, Vice President of Impact at Exodus Cry. They explore the complexities of masculinity, the impact of personal experiences on advocacy, and the challenges faced in the fight against human trafficking. Helen shares her journey from witnessing exploitation in London to leading outreach efforts during major events like the Super Bowl. The discussion also delves into the intersection of pornography and trafficking, highlighting the cultural shifts and advocacy efforts that have emerged in recent years. In this conversation, Helen Taylor and Tom Perez delve into the complex and troubling intersections of pornography and trafficking, discussing the exploitation inherent in the porn industry and the emotional toll of advocacy work. They explore the importance of outreach, the role of faith in advocacy, and the necessity of humanizing those involved in exploitation to foster redemption and change. The dialogue emphasizes the need for compassion and understanding in addressing these critical issues, while also highlighting the importance of justice and accountability.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast02:21 Helen Taylor's Journey into Advocacy09:53 The Impact of Personal Experiences on Advocacy15:43 Outreach During the Super Bowl: A Case Study23:13 Advocacy on Capitol Hill: Challenges and Triumphs30:01 The Intersection of Pornography and Trafficking36:13 The Dark Intersections of Pornography and Trafficking39:46 Outreach in the Porn Industry: A Covert Mission43:46 The Emotional Toll of Advocacy Work47:51 Faith and Advocacy: Navigating Complex Spaces56:25 Humanizing the Exploiters: A Path to RedemptionLet's Connectwww.epikproject.orgwww.exoduscry.org
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Creating a World Without Exploitation with Lauren Hersh
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez speaks with Lauren Hersh, the National Director of World Without Exploitation. They discuss the importance of prevention in combating human trafficking and sexual exploitation, the role of family in motivating advocacy work, and the need to support both girls and boys in creating a healthier society. Hersh shares insights on legislative initiatives, the power of survivor voices, and the current landscape of the anti-trafficking movement, emphasizing the importance of survivor leadership and the need for systemic change. In this conversation, Lauren Hersh and Tom Perez discuss the complexities surrounding human trafficking, the importance of legal mechanisms for survivors, and the need for community education. They emphasize the significance of survivor stories while advocating for a shift towards recognizing the expertise of survivors in policy-making. The discussion also highlights the role of young people in combating exploitation and the importance of authentic leadership in fostering open conversations.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:03 Lauren Hirsch and World Without Exploitation03:23 The Importance of Prevention in Exploitation05:44 Family Life and Personal Motivation09:01 The Role of Boys in Exploitation10:38 Understanding World Without Exploitation11:49 Legislative Initiatives and Survivor Model20:20 Current Landscape of Anti-Trafficking Movement24:34 The Power of Survivor Voices30:55 Supporting Survivors in Advocacy32:19 Breaking Free from Criminal Convictions35:14 The Power of Survivor Stories40:10 Community Education and Awareness44:28 Engaging Young People in Conversations51:17 The Importance of Authenticity in LeadershipLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgwww.worldwithoutexploitation.org
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Finding Hope Through Beauty with Michelle Boucher
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a deep conversation with artist Michelle Boucher about the intersection of beauty, trauma, and creativity. They explore how being present and mindful can enhance one's ability to experience beauty in everyday life, the impact of trauma on perception, and the importance of naming beauty as a practice for personal growth. Michelle shares her journey as an artist, her creative process, and how nature inspires her work while discussing the societal conditioning that affects men's emotional expression. In this conversation, Tom Perez and Michelle Boucher explore beauty, mindfulness, and the importance of being present in a chaotic world. They discuss the contradictions of experiencing beauty amidst ugliness, the role of art in activism, and the necessity of hope and support in challenging times. Michelle shares her journey of finding calm and gratitude, while Tom reflects on the significance of using one's passion for a purpose. Together, they emphasize the importance of mindfulness and the beauty of nature, encouraging listeners to embrace their emotions and be present in their lives.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast01:58 The Journey of an Artist: Michelle Boucher06:02 Exploring the Intersection of Beauty and Trauma11:58 The Importance of Being Present17:57 Creative Process and Nature's Influence23:54 Naming Beauty: A Personal Practice29:55 Finding Calm Amidst Chaos31:14 The Beauty in Contradiction35:11 Art and Activism: A Personal Journey41:32 Using Passion for Purpose45:30 Experiencing Beauty in Nature51:00 Mindfulness and Presence56:45 Hope and Support in Challenging TimesLet's Connect:www.epikproject.orgwww.foxheartart.com
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Unconditional Love in Trauma Recovery with Esther Garrett
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a profound conversation with Esther Garrett, a seasoned victim advocate. They explore the emotional complexities of advocacy, the importance of being present for those in crisis, and the intricate connections between domestic violence and sexual exploitation. Esther shares her journey in the field, the significance of safety planning, and the challenges faced by victims as they navigate their circumstances. The discussion also highlights the work of Safety Compass, an organization dedicated to supporting survivors and addressing the gaps in services for those affected by violence and exploitation. In this conversation, Esther Garrett and Tom Perez explore the importance of healthy relationships in advocacy work. They discuss the shift from traditional power dynamics in interviews to a more collaborative approach, the need for vulnerability in relationships, and the role of unconditional love in supporting those affected by trauma. They also highlight the significance of healthy friendships across gender lines and the impact of vicarious trauma on individuals in the anti-trafficking movement. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to engage authentically and compassionately in their spheres of influence.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast02:07 Esther Garrett's Journey as a Victim Advocate05:58 Navigating the Emotional Landscape of Advocacy09:18 The Role of Education in Advocacy10:54 Understanding Safety Planning in Advocacy12:41 The Cycle of Violence and Returning to Exploiters15:23 Connecting Domestic Violence and Sexual Exploitation19:35 The Work of Safety Compass and Its Origins23:34 Call-Out Scenarios in Crisis Response28:49 The Power of Collaboration in Interviews30:13 Redefining the Action Hero Narrative33:40 Vulnerability and Authenticity in Relationships36:57 The Role of Unconditional Love39:36 The Importance of Healthy Relationships42:51 Understanding Vicarious Trauma45:52 Building Healthy Friendships Across Gender52:29 Finding Beauty in the Work54:45 Encouragement for Men in AdvocacyLet's Connectwww.epikproject.orgwww.safetycompass.org
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Unveiling the Power of Storytelling with Cami Ostman
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a deep conversation with Cami Ostman, a mentor and expert in narrative therapy and founder of The Narrative Project. They explore the importance of storytelling in personal growth, the challenges writers face, and how trauma influences the narratives we create. Cami shares her journey from a challenging childhood to becoming a therapist and writing coach, emphasizing the transformative power of writing and the need to confront inner critics. The discussion also touches on gender dynamics in writing and therapy, highlighting the unique experiences of men and women in these spaces. In this conversation, Tom Perez and Cami explore the differences in how men and women approach therapy, the importance of vulnerability and trust in healing, and the transformative power of storytelling. They discuss the societal messages that shape men's emotional experiences and the need for men to share their stories to contribute to a shift in collective consciousness. Cami encourages men to embrace their narratives as a means of personal and communal growth.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast02:54 The Narrative Project: Helping Writers Find Their Voice06:57 The Challenge of Writing: Confronting Inner Critics09:08 Understanding Trauma in Storytelling15:03 Cami's Journey: From Pain to Purpose19:46 The Essence of Narrative Therapy22:14 The Transformative Power of Writing25:20 Gender Dynamics in Writing and Therapy28:35 Understanding Gender Differences in Therapy36:07 The Impact of Vulnerability and Trust43:42 The Power of Storytelling in Masculinity50:54 Encouragement for Men to Share Their StoriesLet's Connect:The Narrative Project: https://www.thenarrativeproject.net/Epik Project: https://www.epikproject.org/
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Understanding the Buyer: A New Perspective with David Bennett
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a profound conversation with David Bennett, a dedicated anti-trafficking advocate. David shares his personal journey, highlighting his commitment to fighting human trafficking and the impact it has on his family life. He discusses the importance of awareness, the role of community support among men, and the transformative conversations he has had with both victims and buyers. The episode emphasizes the need for empathy, understanding, and action in addressing the complexities of human trafficking. In this conversation, David Bennett shares his experiences working with men in crisis, emphasizing the importance of empathy, accountability, and non-judgmental support. He discusses the transformative power of prayer, the significance of building trust, and the role of shame in perpetuating negative behaviors. Bennett reflects on the unique opportunity men have to engage with one another and the community's role in combatting demand for harmful behaviors. He also highlights the importance of self-care and the vision for a future where men are respectful and vulnerable.00:00 Introduction to David Bennett and His Mission02:45 David's Personal Journey and Family Life05:57 Awareness and Action Against Human Trafficking09:57 The Impact of Patrols on Personal Life12:52 Navigating Conversations with Children15:41 Understanding the Buyers: A Deeper Look19:41 The Shift from Backpage to Direct Outreach22:55 Building Community Among Men26:42 The Role of Faith in the Fight Against Trafficking30:41 Conversations with Buyers: A Transformative Approach30:54 Empathy in Action: The Power of Prayer32:38 Realizations and Accountability: A Journey of Change34:30 Building Trust: The Importance of Non-Judgmental Support37:38 Understanding Anger: A Personal Reflection39:27 The Role of Shame: Breaking the Cycle41:55 Men's Work: A Unique Opportunity for Transformation45:39 Community Support: The Church's Role in Combatting Demand49:44 Live Operations: Engaging with Law Enforcement52:35 Self-Care: Finding Balance in Challenging Work56:55 A Vision for the Future: Raising Respectful MenLet's Connect www.epikproject.org
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The Art of Generative Men with Paul Blais
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a deep conversation with Paul Blais, an artist and electrician, about the intersection of creativity, beauty, and the challenges faced in the trades. They explore the importance of artistry in craftsmanship, the impact of trauma on creativity, and the role of gender in experiencing beauty. Paul shares his journey as a potter and how he adapts to changes, emphasizing the joy of creation and the significance of beauty in everyday life. The discussion culminates in reflections on the legacy of creativity and the necessity of beauty for a fulfilling life.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to Generative Men and Creativity03:05 The Artistic Ethos in Trades05:55 The Value of Craftsmanship and Beauty09:01 The Conflict of Creativity and Exploitation12:12 Exploring the Duality of Paul Blais15:02 The Journey of a Potter17:57 Adapting to Change: Creativity After Loss20:59 The Nature of Creativity and Problem Solving24:06 The Intersection of Creativity and Beauty27:13 The Role of Feedback in Artistic Growth29:59 Cultivating Creativity in Everyday Life32:58 The Importance of Beauty in Life36:09 Experiencing Beauty: Personal Reflections38:47 The Impact of Trauma on Creativity41:56 The Role of Gender in Creativity44:55 Beauty and Creativity in Midlife48:09 The Legacy of Creativity in Family51:01 The Absence of Creativity and Its Consequences54:01 Finding Irony and Beauty in Life56:58 Final Thoughts on Beauty and CreativityLet's Connect:www.epikproject.org
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Unveiling the Shadows of Trafficking in Pornography with Jewell Baraka
Trigger Warning: While this is an important episode, it is also a difficult one. Please take care of yourself while listening and be advised that topics of child sexual abuse, human trafficking, and violence against children are discussed. In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness podcast, host Tom Perez engages in a profound conversation with Jewell Baraka, a survivor advocate and author. They discuss the complexities of human trafficking, particularly in the context of the porn industry, and the importance of understanding trauma and its long-lasting effects. Jewell shares her personal story of being trafficked at a young age, the challenges of self-identification as a survivor, and the critical need for empathy and awareness in addressing these issues. The conversation emphasizes the significance of storytelling in healing and the necessity of recognizing the humanity of those involved in the sex industry.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast02:21 Understanding Human Trafficking and Advocacy05:52 The Importance of Defining Trafficking10:40 The Impact of Trauma and Existential Prisons12:32 The Journey from Abuse to Exploitation14:39 Familial Trafficking and Its Hidden Nature18:14 The Desire to Be Seen and Its Consequences20:45 The Transactional Nature of the Sex Industry23:39 The Shift from Brothel to Porn Studio26:50 The Reality of Violence in Pornography30:52 The Aftermath of Exploitation and Trauma33:35 The Role of Writing in Healing37:41 Fear and Power Dynamics in the Porn Industry40:46 Awakening and the Fight for Survival43:27 The Destruction of Identity in Pornography46:15 The Intersection of Trafficking and Pornography50:01 Ethical Porn and Human Rights54:11 The Moment of Realization and Its Impact57:57 The Healing Journey and Its Challenges01:01:30 The Power of Poetry in Healing01:03:25 Connecting with Other Survivors01:06:44 Seeking Justice and Accountability01:09:18 The Importance of Sharing Stories01:12:06 Final Thoughts and EncouragementLets Connect:www.epikproject.orgJewell's book: https://www.thriftbooks.com/a/jewell-baraka/11092912/
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Empathetic Accountability: Engaging Male Allies in Anti-Trafficking Efforts with Ty Bowden
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom chats with Ty Bowden and his work with The Net, an anti-trafficking organization based in Fort Worth, Texas. He shares how Men Against Sexual Exploitation (MACE) came to be and gives some powerful stories about their efforts to cut down on the demand for commercial sexual exploitation.Ty goes over both the wins and the challenges of getting male volunteers and buyers involved, stressing how important it is to approach things with empathy and accountability. They also dig into the cultural roots of exploitation, how recent laws have made a big difference, and the importance of building healthy male communities to drive change. Ty wraps up by talking about how he’s raising his own sons to value care and responsibility, and gives advice for both younger and older generations who want to get involved in this important work.About Ty Bowden:A Fort Worth native and TCU political science grad, Ty hasn’t had to go very far to pursue his passions. After starting volunteer work with The Net in 2013 while at TCU, Ty is now the Associate Director, where he oversees the MASE Program and keeps things running smoothly behind the scenes. Ty is passionate about bringing men to the fight for justice in Fort Worth and across the country. A leader in the demand disruption movement in Texas, Ty has trained hundreds of men to engage and disrupt potential sex buyers over the last several years, as well as personally interacted with thousands of buyers. When he’s not at his desk or leading a training, Ty is either cheering on the Horned Frogs, out chasing wild turkeys, or drinking a glass of wine and reading a book on his Fairmount front porch, accompanied by his wife Sarah, son Shepherd, and their dog Camp.CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast00:07 Meet Ty Bowden: A Generative Man01:04 Ty's Background and Work with The Net02:28 The Early Days of MACE and Demand Reduction06:37 The Start of Online Patrols14:19 Real-Life Disruptions and Early Challenges17:38 Generational Perspectives on Anti-Trafficking Work24:42 The Role of Faith and Community in the Mission27:37 Personal Reflections on Engaging with Buyers28:26 Texas' Unique Legal Approach to Prostitution29:23 Impact of the New Law on Buyers and Law Enforcement31:03 Challenges and Realities of Buyer Deterrence33:44 Understanding the Motivations of Buyers37:48 Balancing Empathy and Accountability44:23 Family Dynamics in Anti-Trafficking Work47:49 Hopes for Future Generations and Encouragement for Older Men51:59 Podcast Conclusion and Acknowledgements
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Nurturing Healthy Masculinity: A Conversation with Ruth Whippman
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom Perez from Epic Project has a deep conversation with author and journalist Ruth Whippman. They dive into her new book, BOYMOM, which talks about the struggles boys face in a world of "toxic masculinity." Ruth opens up about raising three boys, the impact of the Me Too movement, and the big cultural changes needed to raise emotionally healthy boys. Tom and Ruth also touch on the political divide around masculinity and why empathy and understanding are key in these discussions. They even explore Ruth’s interviews with young boys, talking about how social pressures shape both younger and older men. The episode wraps up with some great insights on how we can create a culture where men can fully embrace who they are.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast00:25 Meet Ruth Whitman: Author of Boy Mom01:45 The Impact of the Me Too Movement05:34 Exploring Patriarchy and Masculinity07:21 Raising Boys: Challenges and Reflections24:26 Feedback and Cultural Reactions27:45 Navigating Political Triggers28:33 Personal Reflections on Parenting Sons29:12 The Impact of Having Sons on Political Views29:50 Deciding to Have a Third Boy31:25 Exploring the Political Divide on Masculinity33:00 Fears and Realities of Raising Boys33:41 Engaging with the Incel Community36:39 The Emotional Struggles of Men and Boys40:19 Personal Stories of Masculine Expectations46:26 Encouragement for Men to Change52:08 Hopes for the Future Generation53:15 Conclusion and Resources--CONNECT with Epik Project
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From Law to Liberation: John Richmond's Fight Against Human Trafficking
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez, CEO and founder of Epik Project, interviews John Richmond, an American attorney and diplomat renowned in the global anti-trafficking movement. John shares his extensive career experiences, from serving as a U.S. Ambassador to monitor and combat trafficking to his current roles at Atlas Free and the Libertas Council. Tom and John discuss the effectiveness of legal frameworks in combating trafficking, cultural challenges, and the influence of personal and professional experiences. John also highlights the importance of community, the role of political will, and personal practices to manage trauma and sustain commitment in the fight against human trafficking.Special thanks to our sponsor, Atlas FreeCHAPTERS00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast00:27 Introducing John Richmond: A Leader in Anti-Trafficking00:59 John Richmond’s Career Journey and Impact03:14 A Conversation with John Richmond: Personal Insights06:28 Balancing Family and a Demanding Career10:28 Challenges and Lessons in Anti-Trafficking Work15:54 The Role of Law and Justice in Combating Trafficking29:08 Cultural and Philosophical Perspectives on Human Dignity30:10 The Value of Human Dignity31:01 Cultural Crisis and Human Dignity32:13 Selfishness and Narcissism33:42 Hope for Cultural Change35:14 Flourishing in Community37:36 Parenting and Community Building48:12 Dealing with Trauma and Pain53:08 Life-Giving Practices54:41 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsAbout our Guest, John RichmondJohn Richmond is an American attorney and diplomat. From 2018 to 2021, Richmond served as the U.S. Ambassador-at-Large to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons. He currently works as Chief Impact Officer at Atlas Free.[2] He also serves as president of the Libertas Council, a leadership community focused on combating human trafficking, advancing democracy, and affirming human dignity.Before becoming CIO at Atlas Free, John joined International Justice Mission and relocated to Chennai, India where he served as the Field Office Director for South India. Richmond pioneered IJM’s work to identify human trafficking victims, provide the victim’s protection services, and support the government as it held the traffickers accountable.After that, John was sworn in as a federal prosecutor with the U.S. Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division’s Criminal Section. He was a founding member of the Department’s Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit. Richmond prosecuted police misconduct, hate crimes, and labor and sex trafficking crimes.--CONNECT with Epik Project
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Friendship and Men’s Mental Health with Ian Fridell and Chris Bragg
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, Tom Perez, CEO and founder of Epic Project, chats with Ian ('Pancakes') and Chris ('Critter'). They dive into their personal stories about tackling men's mental health and suicide prevention. The guys talk about how their friendship and love for motorcycles sparked the creation of the 'Get Lost Find Yourself' rally—a successful event raising money and awareness for men's mental health.They explore the impact of being vulnerable, having real friendships, and the importance of a supportive community. Tune in to hear Tom, Ian, and Chris discuss how male friendships, shared passions, and the courage to open up about mental health can be life-changing.Special thanks to our sponsor, Hinton Development--CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast00:20 Meet Ian and Chris: Motorcycle Buddies on a Mission03:45 The Journey of Pancakes: From Darkness to Advocacy05:21 The Birth of Get Lost, Find Yourself Rally08:28 The Power of Friendship: Ian and Chris's Bond11:56 Ian's Story: Struggles and Triumphs29:38 The Healing Power of Motorcycles37:30 Adventure and Dual Sport Riders37:49 Street Riders and Their Stereotypes38:37 Camaraderie Among Bikers42:08 Women in the Motorcycle World43:56 First Motorcycle Experiences45:38 Building a Supportive Community52:48 The Power of Vulnerability58:21 Final Thoughts and Advice01:09:25 Podcast Outro and Credits--CONNECT with Epik Project
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Storytelling & Belonging with Curtis Miller
In this episode of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast, host Tom Perez interviews Curtis Miller, the principal consultant at ConnectEd. They discuss the power of storytelling and the importance of belonging in creating positive cultural change. Curtis shares his personal journey and how he discovered the impact of sharing stories in building relationships and fostering community. The conversation touches on topics such as mental health, youth suicide prevention, and the construction industry. Through their own experiences, Tom and Curtis highlight the need for vulnerability and connection in creating a healthier society. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss their experiences in addressing social issues and promoting healthy communities. They talk about the importance of belonging and connection in preventing youth suicide and combating sexual exploitation. They highlight the need for community leaders to come together and create a caring adult network to support and invite kids into a sense of belonging. They also explore the concepts of harm reduction and health promotion, emphasizing the value of focusing on promoting health and creating positive change rather than solely focusing on stopping harmful behaviors. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background of Curtis Miller 03:12 The Power of Storytelling and Belonging 10:46 Personal Adventure and Pain: A Catalyst for Connection 11:14 Intersecting Lives and Work 14:05 Addressing Mental Health in the Construction Industry 17:28 The Role of Storytelling in Building Connection 19:22 The Power of Vulnerability and Connection 23:39 Creating Safe Spaces for Vulnerability 28:26 Personal Healing and Relationship Building through Storytelling 30:24 Youth Suicide Prevention and Community Collaboration 32:18 The Media's Role in Shaping Community Responses to Youth Suicide Contagions 32:46 The Power of Belonging and Connection 36:40 Creating a Caring Adult Network 44:12 From Harm Reduction to Health Promotion 50:22 Addressing the Root Causes of Harmful Behaviors Quotes: "Positive cultural change happens at the speed of relationships and relationships happen at the speed of trust." "Sharing stories can create and inhabit a true experience of belonging." "Connection and belonging are the key ingredients for individual, relational, organizational, communal, and systemic health." "Kids are not experiencing belonging. This is not a kid problem. This is a social problem." "The same culture that made sex buyers made me." "It's scarier to be held accountable to your true self than it is to be." Connect: www.connected.buzz www.epikproject.org
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Confronting Exploitation Globally and at Home with Nicolas Kristof
In this episode, Nicholas Kristof discusses his journalism career and commitment to ending violence against women and girls. He shares stories of vulnerability and exploitation, highlighting the gender inequities and discrimination that exist worldwide. Kristof emphasizes the importance of education and role models in shaping the kind of men and boys we want to raise. He also discusses his article about Pornhub which resulted in exposing the exploitation of children on the platform. Despite the challenges, Kristof remains hopeful, citing the progress that has been made and the resilience and courage he has witnessed in survivors. Takeaways: Gender inequities and discrimination exist worldwide, leading to vulnerability and exploitation, particularly for women and girls. Education and access to opportunities are crucial in addressing these issues and shaping the kind of men and boys we want to raise. Progress has been made in combating exploitation, but there is still work to be done. Exposing and holding platforms like Pornhub accountable for facilitating the exploitation of children is essential. Despite the challenges, there is hope in the resilience and courage of survivors and the potential for positive change. Quotes: "Being born female is just an inherent vulnerability." "There should not be videos of 14-year-old girls posted on Pornhub so that a major internet company can monetize sexual assaults of underage girls." Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Background of Nicholas Kristof 04:14 From Vulnerability to Exploitation: Examples of Gender Inequities 16:15 Desired Outcomes: Shaping the Next Generation of Men 38:15 Exposing Pornhub: Consequences and the Call for Accountability 45:04 Progress and Hope: Resilience in the Face of Adversity Links: https://www.nytimes.com/column/nicholas-kristof www.nytimes.com/kristof https://time.com/6977053/nicholas-kristof-interview/ https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/chasing-hope-a-reporters-life_nicholas-d-kristof/39648808/?resultid=9e3d972b-d13f-4125-9324-af1ffcbad60d#edition=67965555&idiq=64928316 www.epikproject.org
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Unpacking Male Supremacy and Male Supremacist Influencers with Pasha Dashtgard
Pasha Dashtgard, Director of Research for the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab (PERIL), discusses online male extremism and the Manosphere. The Manosphere is an interconnected network of blogs, websites, and influencers that promote male supremacist ideology. It includes groups like men's rights activists, pickup artists, incels, and the red pill movement. Pasha explains the concepts of male supremacy, toxic masculinity, and the different forms of sexism within the Manosphere. He also highlights the damaging effects of these ideologies, particularly on young men. Andrew Tate, a prominent figure in the Manosphere, is seen as a polished expression of these ideologies. In this conversation, Tom Perez speaks with Pasha Dashtgard, a researcher and expert on male supremacist ideology and its impact on society. They discuss the rise of male supremacist influencers like Andrew Tate and the role of technology in the proliferation of this ideology. They explore the factors that have contributed to the appeal of male supremacist ideas, including the reduction in the importance of religion and the lack of a developed discourse on masculinity. They also discuss the harmful effects of digitally mediated communication and the need for young men to develop a sense of self-worth and the ability to process trauma. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the importance of multiple masculinities and creating a society that allows men to be multifaceted. Takeaways The Manosphere is an interconnected network of blogs, websites, and influencers that promote male supremacist ideology. The Manosphere includes groups like men's rights activists, pickup artists, incels, and the red pill movement. Male supremacy is an ideology that posits that women, particularly feminists, are out to get men. Toxic masculinity is the policing, intimidation, and violence used against boys and men who step outside the hegemonic masculine ideal. Andrew Tate is a prominent figure in the Manosphere, but he is not unique and will likely be replaced by others promoting similar ideologies. Male supremacist influencers like Andrew Tate appeal to young men by acknowledging their struggles and offering a sense of self-worth. Technology, particularly social media algorithms, plays a significant role in the proliferation and reinforcement of male supremacist ideology. The reduction in the importance of religion and the lack of a developed discourse on masculinity have contributed to the appeal of male supremacist ideas. Digitally mediated communication lacks the connection and bond necessary for meaningful dialogue and can lead to aggression and hostility. To mitigate the harm faced by boys and young men, it is important to provide them with tools to process trauma and grievance in a healthy way. Creating a society that allows men to be multifaceted and embraces multiple masculinities is crucial in challenging male supremacist ideology. Chapters 00:00 Exploring the Manosphere 26:02 The Different Groups within the Manosphere 27:57 Understanding Incels and the Black Pill 30:20 Distinct Ideologies within the Manosphere 32:46 Andrew Tate and the Influence of the Manosphere 33:15 The Appeal of Male Supremacist Influencers 36:40 The Role of Technology in the Proliferation of Male Supremacist Ideology 37:38 The Impact of Religion and the Lack of Discourse on Masculinity 41:55 The Harmful Effects of Digitally Mediated Communication 49:43 Mitigating Harm: Tools for Processing Trauma and Grievance 53:36 Embracing Multiple Masculinities: Challenging Male Supremacist Ideology Quotes "What is happening with, I don't, it's not exclusively young men, but primarily young men? The Manosphere is an interconnected network of blogs and websites and influencers and social media outlets that are all using this male supremacist ideology." "In cells are defined by a sort of hopelessness. So there's a term called the black pill, which is essentially this like, give up, you're never going to be loved." Lets Connect: www.epikproject.org
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Equality and Justice: Taina Bien-Aimé on Ending Human Trafficking
In a world where many, particularly women and girls, face the horrors of human trafficking and sexual exploitation, efforts to combat these injustices must go beyond addressing individual acts of violence to dismantle the systemic structures that perpetuate inequality and harm. We’re all in this together, and each of us has a role to play in creating a future where every woman and girl can live without fear, oppression, or prejudice, thereby upholding the inherent dignity of all humanity. Everyone has the right to live a life free of violence and discrimination. In this episode, we discuss Taina Bien-Aimé’s journey, human trafficking at national and global levels, its deeper roots and struggles, and the hope for change. Taina, with three decades of experience defending the rights of women and girls, is the executive director of the Coalition Against Trafficking in Women (CATW). CATW is a leading international organization dedicated to ending trafficking and commercial sex exploitation as forms of gender-based violence and discrimination. Before CATW, Taina was involved with Equality Now for 20 years, serving as a founding board member and later as executive director. She has also worked at HBO and practiced international corporate law at Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton. Taina holds a Juris Doctorate from NYU School of Law and a political science degree from the University of Geneva. Her work has earned her numerous awards, including being named one of the 2021 inaugural "Under 50 Women Who Have Made Social Impact." Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode Correlation Against Trafficking in Women (CATW): https://catwinternational.org/ THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights Key Highlights From The Show: [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Taina Bien-Aimé [04:53] Taina's background and how she got into this work [12:45] The three key areas of CATW's work against trafficking women [17:23] A pivotal moment in Taina's career when she faced limitations [23:08] Why commercial sex exploitation is a harmful cultural practice [27:23] Exploitation of women and girls in the US Vs. other countries [32:52] Sexual exploitation in the US Vs. EU countries [35:29] Men that Tiana counts as strong partners in her work [40:25] Men’s responsibility towards the norms that perpetuate sexual exploitation [41:56] Tiana's perspective on the root of sexual exploitation and sex buying [35:34] The real road to end sexual exploitation, what needs to start and stop [48:30] The shoulders that Tiana stands on in the work that she does [53:10] What keeps Tiana grounded and gives her life and energy [55:22] Tiana’s parting words to all men on equality [57:42] Wrap up and end of the show Standout Quotes: “From the time they are in grade school, girls are taught to be submissive sexually and boys are taught to dominate through the images and statements on social media and elsewhere creating cognitive dissonance.” - [21:09] “If you discriminate against a group of human beings for whatever reason, you are dehumanizing them and anything can be done to that group of people because you justify it.”- [23:54] “We profit from the sex trade so much because we don’t ask ourselves who is being bought, who is doing the buying, and who is getting harmed, it’s almost a form of femecide because we’re not interested in quantifying the harm.”- [31:08] “It’s not just the men who buy into the benign nature or inevitability of prostitution, we’re all in this together.”- [41:04] “Change can happen and does happen.”- [54:22] “We can never ever reach equality if sex buying is allowed, tolerated, and celebrated.”- [56:49] Let’s Connect www.epikproject.org @epikproject Taina Bien-Aimé LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taina-bien-aim%C3%A9-2133238
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Men Leading the Charge: Justin Euteneier on Ending Sex Exploitation
Creating the world we want to see for our sons demands active engagement in the fight against sex exploitation and trafficking. As men, we bring unique perspectives and strengths to this crucial work, including the ability to challenge and transform harmful gender norms that perpetuate exploitation. We can use our voices to advocate and support systems for victims, collaborate with organizations dedicated to eradicating trafficking, and educate other men and boys about consent, respect, and equality. By modeling healthy masculinity and showing empathy and commitment, we can contribute to a culture that values the dignity and rights of every individual, ensuring a safer, more just world for future generations.In this episode with Justin Euteneier, we talk about how we came to this work at Epik, how it has impacted us as men, and the behind-the-scenes details of the work we do to stop men from purchasing sex at the point of sale. As the director of the programs and resident sage at Epik, Justin Equips male civilians across the US to speak directly to the sex buyers at the point of sale, disrupt the culture of acceptance of exploitation, and seek areas of our lives as men where we can work toward creating a more equitable and flourishing culture.Justin holds a master's degree in social justice from Kiln College. He has presented at the MIT counter-human trafficking workshop and has more than 10 years of experience in the anti-human trafficking movement. At the Epik project, Justin has designed and built an innovative buyer engagement platform that has led to over 200,000 purchase attempts disrupted from more than 100,000 active sex buyers in the US. He has done this by leading in all-volunteer male teams across the country. Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in!Resources Mentioned in the EpisodeThe Net Fort Worth: https://www.thenetfw.com/Demand Abolition, ‘Who Buy Sex’: https://www.demandabolition.org/who-buys-sex/#Mase program: https://www.thenetfw.com/mase Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Justin Euteneier ● [03:52] Justin's backstory outside the work he does at Epik ● [06:28] Justin’s perception of sexual exploitation early on in his journey ● [11:18] About the cyber patrol program Justin has built at Epik ● [16:06] What Justin has learned being face-to-face with active sex buyers ● [17:51] Report from Demand Abolition, ‘Who Buy Sex’ research ● [21:27] The North Star of effectively changing sex buying culture ● [25:53] The nuances of the way men are in the world ● [28:30] Stories that prove to Justin they are making a difference ● [34:14] Why shaming the sex buyers does not work ● [41:29] How to show up as a collaborative and fighter ● [44:33] Justin’s partner and heroes in collaboration and why they’re awesome ● [49:55] What Justin does outside his work that is life-giving ● [51:35] The world Justin envisions for his son and his peers ● [55:41] Wrap up and end of the showStandout Quotes: ● “It’s critical for any man who cares about sexual exploitation to understand that sex buyers are not some gone off the cliff men; they are just like us.” - [16:13] ● “More often than not, men that are calling looking to buy sex are not just looking for sexual transactions but human connection.”- [17:22] ● “We can’t arrest our way out of the problem of sex trafficking; it’s a cultural problem; it’s a problem of male entitlement to purchase consent.”- [22:35] ● “Driving sex buyers into shame is a short-term tool that’s going to cause more long-term harm in the end; it’s not effective in solving the real problem.”- [24:09] ● “You don’t have to be an action hero to make a difference.”- [40:44]Let’s Connect www.epikproject.org @epikproject
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The Intersection of Culture and Parenting: How To Raise Safe Sons with Kirby Garry
In today's digitally driven, amplified, and hyper-connected world, our children face unprecedented challenges, making it crucial to equip them with the tools to navigate societal pressures. By modeling empathy, resilience, and a strong moral compass, we can help them thrive and become respectable individuals. This involves a deliberate effort to model empathy, encourage open communication, and create an environment where boys feel supported and understood. As parents, it's our responsibility to raise well-rounded kids capable of facing life's challenges and making positive contributions to society. In today’s episode, Kirby Garry and Tom talk about the wider culture, the places that formed us as men, and how those experiences impact the way we raise our children. Kirby offers simple, profound, and hopeful advice on preparing the young generation of kids to show up and become the compassionate, resilient leaders of tomorrow Entering his tenth year as Athletic Director and 16th overall at Cal State Monterey Bay, Kirby has played a role in shaping nearly every aspect of Otter Athletics as an NCAA DII intercollegiate athletics program. In the process, Kirby has emerged as nationally respected leader in athletics administration, becoming an influential voice on topics of leadership, student-athlete well-being, development, marketing, and social media. Kirby provides leadership and support for the Otters’ 13 sports as well as the department’s more than 40 full and part-time administrative and coaching staff members. A native of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Kirby was a football team captain and All-North Central Conference wide receiver at the University of North Dakota. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode World Without Exploitation: https://www.worldwithoutexploitation.org/ Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Kirby Garry ● [05:22] Kirby's backstory and how he got to the place he is today ● [10:48] How Kirby’s wife’ a girl from California ended up in North Dakota ● [14:38] Kirby’s experience as a dad raising sons in today’s culture ● [16:45] How to cultivate empathy in your sons as a superpower ● [18:44] Differences in model and nurturing empathy in boys Vs. girls ● [19:43] Differences in cultivating empathy in teenagers Vs. younger kids ● [21:08] How to be a better man and how Kirby helps men achieve their goal ● [26:57] Kirby’s formative years and how the experience shaped his life ● [30:53] The pros and cons of growing up in a competitive environment ● [39:03] Things that give Gary pause and hope in the world today ● [44:05] Being present and building your muscle for showing up for your sons ● [46:50] Life-giving things that fill Kirby up as a man ● [51:55] Kirby’s heart for men and the message he wants to pass to them ● [55:04] Kirby’s final words of encouragement to young men Standout Quotes: ● “With everything digital and amplified, high school and teenage years are hard enough, and preparing and positioning our sons to persist through these challenges when appropriate is critical.” - [15:54] ● “A competitive environment is worthwhile for incremental results; keep showing up, putting in work, and getting the results.”- [32:06] ● “Winning and losing in competition fades away quicker than you think; the connections you make and the person you become are the most important.”- [32:35] ● “Joy is finding ways to express gratitude and continuously reminding our kids of what they have, not trying to dictate but to show up for them unconditionally.”- [40:47] ● “Our kids can get caught up in the height of anxiety and amplified noise in our world; trying to get them out of that loop can help them be present.”- [44:53] Let’s Connect www.epikproject.org @epikproject Kirby Garry Website: https://otterathletics.com/staff-directory/kirby-garry/4 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kirbygarry/?hl=en
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Fighting Sexual Abuse in Our Community with Yasmin Vafa
Fighting Sexual Abuse in Our Community with Yasmin Vafa Sexual abuse is a deeply entrenched issue within our community. However, the focus on the most extreme forms of sex trafficking can blind us from the pervasive reality of everyday sexual exploitation and violence that occur right in our backyard. While attention to extreme cases is crucial, it's equally important to address the more common forms of abuse that often go unnoticed. By acknowledging and confronting the prevalence of sexual violence within our community, we can take meaningful steps toward fighting human trafficking and creating a safe and better world. It's time to broaden our focus to encompass the entirety of the issue, recognizing that solving sexual violence starts right here, in our own neighborhoods, with a commitment to ending all forms of exploitation and abuse. In this episode, Yasmin Vafa and Tomas discuss gender inequality, violence against women and girls, and child marriage in the United States and how they contribute to the larger system of exploitation and inequality. Yasmin is the founder and executive director of Rights4Girls, a national human rights organization dedicated to protecting marginalized young women and girls in the United States. Yasmin is an award-winning human rights lawyer and advocate. Her work focuses on the intersection of race, gender, violence, and law. As a nationally recognized expert on gender-based violence, Yasmin has successfully advocated for several laws at the federal and state levels. She has testified before the US Senate, state legislatures, and international human rights bodies. She has co-authored multiple reports detailing the over-criminalization of girls and young women of color, particularly the survivors of sexual violence. Yasmin and her work have been featured in the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, ABC News, National Public Radio, and more. She has served on the US advisory committee on the sex trafficking of children and youth and is adjunct faculty for the National Council of Juvenile Family Court Judges, where she leads the National Institute of Justice domestic child sex trafficking. Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in!Resources Mentioned in the EpisodeRights4Girls: https://rights4girls.org/ The Sexual Abuse to Prison Pipeline; The Girl’s Story: https://rights4girls.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/SexualAbusetoPrisonPipeline-Report.pdfRights4Girls Reports: https://rights4girls.org/reports/ Key Highlights From The Show: [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Yasmin Vafa [04:17] Yasmin's journey that inspired her work at Rights4Girls [08:29] Human Rights Lens and what it means in Yasmin’s work [12:26] Yasmin's human rights approach to fighting human trafficking [16:37] The prevalence of teen sexual violence and gender-based violence [18:30] Marginalized girl’s gender-based violence and criminalization [24:00] Adultification bias: Why there is no effective change in gender-based violence [28:24] What sex trafficking is and the kind of violent crime it is [33:18] The connection between child sex trafficking and other forms of gender-based violence [38:01] What we’re missing and the cost of seeing sex trafficking so narrowly [46:27] Fixing our backyard and Yasmin's achievement in getting 12 states to pass child marriage protection law [49:03] The difference between day-to-day lived experiences for boys vs. girls [56:26] One of the most harmful and hopeful trends in our culture today [01: 00:27] Things that bring hope and life into Yasmin's life [01:03:19] Yasmin's final words of encouragement to all men Standout Quotes: “Every girl and every person has the right to live their full potential without any fear of violence, exploitation or any of these obstacles and barriers.” - [13:32] “The sexism and the racism that black and brown women experience get pushed to young girls of color because they have intersecting obstacles of age, race, and gender which compete to make them less valued, credible, and seeing.”- [24:15] “The focus on the most extreme forms of sex trafficking can blind us to the much more common everyday forms of sexual exploitation and sexual violence that are on the spectrum.”- [38:23] “We have a lot of issues right here, and there are a lot of girls in our community waiting for us to help them; we have a responsibility to improve and live up to the reputation that we hold for ourselves.”- [44:11] “Once girls start to be perceived, sexualized, and objectified by men, it’s when they start to feel unsafe, and this changes how they navigate life.”- [50:21] “The world would be a much better place if men could exercise more empathy.”- [01:06:16] Let’s Connect www.epikproject.org@epikproject
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Navigating Abuse, Authenticity and Change with Lauren Trantham
When we stay silent about the big problem of abuse and human trafficking, it's like saying it's okay. However, by breaking the silence, we empower the next generation to confront these issues head-on, fostering a culture of awareness, advocacy, and empathy. It's about shattering the barriers of fear and ignorance and equipping young people with the knowledge and tools to recognize, report, and prevent the spectrum of abuse. Each voice raised against this injustice adds momentum to the movement for change, ensuring a safer and more just world for future generations. In this episode, we talk about human trafficking, abuse, and how the world is experienced differently by men and women. Lauren also shares her backstory and the insights she has learned in her journey as someone who has experienced abuse and how she has fought, grown, and overcome everything. Lauren is the producer of the Masculine Wilderness Podcast and the director of communication and donor relations at Epik Project. She is also the founder and executive director of Ride My Road, an educational and fundraising organization that has hosted events around the country, educated thousands of community members, and raised over $400,000 for survivor-led initiatives. As a photographer, Lauren has photographed nearly 100 American survivors of human trafficking. Most recently, Lauren and Ride My Road co-hosted the Alaska Data Summit and the Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disruptors Summit. If you have seen our recent bonus episode, you know it included presentations by Justin Euteneier and Tomas Perez, your host. Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode Ride My Road; https://www.ridemyroad.org/ Epik Blog by Lauren: https://www.epikproject.org/blog/abusers Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disruptors Summit; https://rvml.org/event/southern-oregon-human-trafficking-disruptors-summit/ NCOSE: https://endsexualexploitation.org/ Elevate Academy by Rebecca Bender: https://elevate-academy.org/ Key Highlights From The Show: [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Lauren Trantham [04:34] How Tom and Lauren met and what she was up to [11:31] Lauren’s origin story and inspiration behind Ride My Road [09:53] Lauren’s first survival bike that she rebuilt with her dad [12:58] How the Survival Bike project opened the door to the Sturgis Rally [16:07] How Lauren’s work with survivors changed her perspective on empowerment [20:52] Lauren's emotional abuse and how it sparked an identity crisis [23:54] Things that helped Lauren through the identity crisis and how long it took to heal [27:33] How common intimate partner abuse is among women [30:02] Lauren’s (part 1) blog post on women's abuse [35:34] The silence complexity and why we need to speak up [38:20] How Lauren maintains her mental, emotional, and spiritual equilibrium in her work [40:18] What gives Lauren the confidence to move about in the world [44:58] Vulnerability: The masculine equivalent of camping with coyotes [52:31] Things that bring life and creativity into Lauren's path [57:57] Lauren's parting words to all men Standout Quotes: “Abuse is everywhere, and it’s so prevalent.” - [28:02] “There is so much goodness, so many good men in this world, and so much hope that we can change the world.”- [38:32] “You don’t have to be special; you just have to be willing to camp with your coyotes, even if that is going to therapy.”- [43:47] “It’s very hard to go around in the world pretending; when we are not true to ourselves and open and honest about what we’re experiencing, it can make us physically ill.”- [45:34] “When you confront your fears and get it right with yourself, you move through the world differently.”- [50:13] “Work on yourself, and you will see a ripple effect take place among your family, friends, and other men in your life.”- [51:05] Let’s Connect www.epikproject.org @epikproject
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Raising Safe Sons - A Disruptors Summit Presentation w/ Tom Perez
Fighting human trafficking begins with raising safe sons who are compassionate, empathetic, and committed to making the world a better place. By instilling values of humility and empathy in our boys, we cultivate a generation of men who not only understand the gravity of exploitation but actively work to combat it. It doesn't require formal membership in anti-trafficking organizations or special intuition; rather, it's a daily commitment to showing up and being present in our communities. By standing shoulder to shoulder with survivors and supporting law enforcement efforts, every individual has the power to make a tangible difference in the fight against human trafficking. Together, through collective action and unwavering dedication, we can create a safer and more just world for all. Tune in to Tom's presentation, "Raising Safe Sons," at the Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disruptors Summit co-hosted by Ride My Road, the ANP. This pivotal event aimed to address the urgent issue of human trafficking. In this episode, Tom discusses the importance of raising a generation of empathetic and vigilant young men to enhance the collective efforts to combat exploitation and create safer communities. Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode ANP Conference: https://anpconference.com/ Ride My Road; https://www.ridemyroad.org/ Southern Oregon Human Trafficking Disrupter Summit; https://rvml.org/event/southern-oregon-human-trafficking-disruptors-summit/ Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Intro and what in for you in today’s episode ● [01:33] How to keep our kids safe from sexual exploitation ● [07:31] Why sexual exploitation is a man’s issue ● [09:50] Ways men can influence and change the outcome ● [15:58] Humility and recognition in speaking and fighting exploitation ● [19:14] Anger Vs. mourning in holding pain and taking sustained purposeful action ● [24:36] Strong shoulders that are born out of inner strength and discipline ● [27:35] How appetites order our world and shape our agendas ● [30:44] What inspired Tomas into the work he does at Epic ● [38:04] Tomas’s one final navigational tool for the listeners ● [41:03] How to raise safe sons and keep the most vulnerable safe ● [42:01] Wrap up and end of the show Standout Quotes: ● “The best answer to the question “How do I keep our kids safe isn’t simply to do better, more thorough investigations, provide more comprehensive wrap-around care or write better laws; there is more.” - [04:28] ● “Policy, police work, and victim services are the response to the exploitation problem, not the complete solution.”- [04:57] ● “Keeping our kids safe starts by raising safe sons.”- [05:18] ● “Appetites order our world and shape our priorities; we pay attention to our appetite daily and hourly; if we’re going to make a lasting difference, we have to remain hungry for change.”- [28:35] ● ”The damnable business of human trafficking thrives because of men, and it won't be eradicated without better men.”- [41:19]
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Prosecuting Justice: JR's Commitment to Victims of Human Trafficking
Surviving human trafficking is a journey marked by unspeakable trauma, profound resilience, and the enduring strength of the human spirit. Those who have endured this horrific ordeal have faced unimaginable horrors, stripped of their autonomy, dignity, and basic human rights. Yet, amid the darkness, survivors emerge as beacons of hope, reclaiming their voices, their agency, and their lives. Their stories are testaments to the power of resilience, courage, and the unwavering will to overcome adversity. Surviving human trafficking is not merely about physical escape; it is a journey of healing, reclaiming one's identity, and forging a path toward empowerment and justice. These survivors are not defined by their past but by their incredible capacity for survival, strength, and resilience to rebuild their lives and inspire and help others along the way. In this episode, we talk about Survivors' journey to justice, how civilians can work effectively with law enforcement, and what it is like to engage from the side of a prosecutor with a special guest, Glen (JR) Ujifusa. Glen (JR) Ujifusa is a leading expert in human trafficking with over fifteen years of experience in addressing these crimes. As a special United States assistant attorney for Oregon, he focuses on federal human trafficking offenses. Additionally, JR serves as a senior deputy advisor for the Multnomah County District Attorney's office, overseeing cases related to drug, property, and human trafficking crimes. He plays a pivotal role in various law enforcement groups and committees, including the National Sex Trafficking Law Enforcement List Serve and the Association Prosecuting Attorneys and Human Trafficking Advisory Committee. JR's dedication extends to chairing the national advisory committee on the sex trafficking of children and youths in the United States. With extensive experience as a deputy D.A., JR has prosecuted a wide range of crimes, from drug, violence, felony, and sexual assault crimes to homicides. Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it’s never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode My Friends Are Not For Sale: https://epicproject.org/myfriendsarenotforsale Elizabeth Smart Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgLbkibvYs Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Glen (JR) Ujifusa ● [08:33] JR’s work with Epic as an Ally and agent ● [11:31] How Elizabeth Smart's captivity inspired JR’s passion and work trajectory ● [16:40] Why JR believes: “We can’t arrest our way out of sexual Exploitation.” ● [20:17] Why victimization cases are so difficult to build, sustain, and bring to Closure ● [25:07] How JR shows up to win the trust of the victims as a prosecutor ● [28:14] Using the term victim in the legal context vs. survivor ● [31:44] How JR’s work has affected him as a husband and a dad ● [34:52] JR’s work and responsibilities at the D.A Office ● [35:37] How JR’s work strengthens and tests his marriage ● [38:35] What needs to be done to men to change things for the better ● [40:00] The importance of loving and honoring ourselves as human beings ● [43:36] The things we need to pay attention to and invest in when bringing up boys ● [4629] JR’s parental, moral, and legal advice for kids covering up for their friends ● [49:23] Ways men can help mitigate and reduce violence being done to vulnerable people ● [56:41] Cases that have hurt JR personally as a man, husband, and father ● ][01:00:55] The training JR did when a buyer crashed their police training ● [01:07:38] Water and fly fishing and why it’s live-giving to JR ● [01:14:09] How men can show up in an inspiring way to young men ● [01:18:29] JR's parting words to survivors of human trafficking Standout Quotes: ● “Victims need help, support, Love, forgiveness, and understanding; all those things that we all need; just arresting people and putting them in jail does not work in this very complex dynamic.” - [18:56] ● “Young boys need to be taught honor and respect for themself and others and the women around them, as well as sensitivity and understanding that it is not weak to be thoughtful, kind and to stand up for the underdog and the one being picked on if we’re to change things for the better pizza.”- [38:49] ● “You treat people differently when you are whole, have the self-respect to hold yourself to higher standards, and when you know how you should be treated.”- [40:01] ● “As a parent, your job is to protect your kids, not to be their best friend or the cool guy; by being a cool friend, sometimes what you are doing is you are grooming the process of traffickers who are trying to isolate and control.”- [47:38] ● “We all have the ability to make choices, but our choices are agency, and they affect many others, and we’re part of a community.”- [75:51] Let’s Connect Glen (JR) Ujifusa LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-jr-ujifusa-457016162/
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Finding Your Lane: Rebecca Bender's Story of Survival & Advocacy
In a world where the shadows of human trafficking and sexual exploitation loom large, the fight for justice and human dignity is more urgent than ever. We're called not only to see ourselves for who we truly are but also to recognize the pain of others and respond with unwavering strength and compassion. Each day presents an opportunity to stir up our hunger for justice and change, to stand up, speak up, and show up for those who need us most. It's a call to action that reverberates across every corner of society, demanding our attention, our empathy, and our commitment to making a tangible impact on the lives of others. It's time to confront the darkness with courage, to illuminate the path toward a future where exploitation is eradicated and dignity reigns supreme. In this episode, Rebecca Bender shares her Story of Survival, advocacy, and love for life to illuminate the path toward healing and empowerment for survivors of human trafficking. We also talk about character, culture, and how to find a lane in the effort to eradicate sexual exploitation from more than 15 years of leadership. Rebecca is a social activist, author, and CEO who has earned a distinct reputation as a trailblazer and nationally recognized authority in the anti-human trafficking movement. She was appointed to the National Advisory Council on the sex trafficking of Youths in America and regularly testifies as an expert witness in courts prosecuting perpetrators. After escaping her trafficker in 2007, Rebecca was determined to make a new life for herself and her young daughter. She worked hard, eventually opening her own business and earning a master's degree. When she was attending college online, Rebecca dreamed of launching a school for survivors of human trafficking. So, in 2014, the Elevate Academy was born, and within 8 years, it served over 1000 students in 18 countries and 575 cities across the country. This innovative online school is thriving today and remains a place where survivors can continue to connect, grow, and find tools to ignite their future. Note: This conversation touches on sexual violence, and while it is never our goal to sensationalize the trauma of this topic, we strive to speak truthfully about the damage being done. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode Elevate Academy: https://elevate-academy.org/ Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Rebecca Bender ● [05:16] A bit about Rebecca’s backstory and how her advocacy journey started ● [10:11] Rebecca's emotional experience when she began sharing her story ● [19:08] How Rebecca is helping people build their character mass ● [23:28] Parenting and what has been life-giving to Rebecca raising her four daughters ● [27:33] One lesson Rebecca has learned from raising her kids ● [30:00] Finding in Your Lane and Merging Different Lanes ● [35:41] What Rebecca has learned about culture from her work and leadership ● [40:46] The gradual cultural normalization of the expansion of boundaries ● [46:15] Cultural changes and why things are getting worse ● [50:24] How to show up as a man in a way that is life-giving to you and other ● [54:26] How Rebecca is making her way and helping her kids make their way ● [58:12] Rebecca's fun and life-giving activities in this season ● [01:04:09] Rebecca’s message to men on boldness and making a broader impact ● [01:10:28] Elevate Academy and how you can partner and support them ● [01:25:29] Ending the show Standout Quotes: ● “We make reactions, not decisions, in moments of real extreme fear.” - [09:58] ● “Not everybody knows where their experimentation will lead in terms of addiction.”- [41:08] ● “With the cultural sex content normalization, as a consumer, you don’t know who is there by chance or circumstance.”- [48:19] ● “Those broader life experiences are built by individual moments and we need to help people develop a character that can help them get through situations that culturally are going to put pressure on them.”- [51:04] ● “It takes courage to stick out for things that you’re seeing happening and not just stay silent; when people stay silent, the injustice continues.”- [66:04] ● “You might not be able to shift the whole world, but it’s those individual moments that make up the lifetime; if everyone can be a little bold and courageous to stand up when they see an injustice, it can make a broader impact long-term.”- [66:21] Let’s Connect Rebecca Bender Website: https://rebeccabenderinitiative.org/meet-rebecca Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rebeccabenderinitiative Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rebeccabenderinitiative
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Kevin Branzetti - The Rise of Online Threats to Children
Kevin Branzetti, co-founder and CEO of the National Child Protection Task Force, boasts a distinguished 29-year career in law enforcement, primarily focused on counterterrorism and violent extremism with the NYPD for 22 years and later at the Manhattan District Attorney's Office for seven years. During his tenure at the DA's office, he spearheaded investigations into terrorism, violent extremism, and cyber-crime. Now leading the NCPTF, Branzetti leverages his extensive background to combat crimes against children, implementing cutting-edge strategies and collaborating with social media giants to develop trauma-informed solutions. Child trafficking and exploitation are no longer happening via physical abductions, as traffickers are constantly changing with technology trends. Online abductions and children being lured away from home are now being facilitated through the computer, and a 14-year-old can vanish with an online predator in no time. But as much as there has been an increase of awareness of children's online safety, some loopholes remain. Law enforcement agencies and investigators are not adequately equipped with up-to-date technological training to track and save the lives of innocent children who go missing. However, private agencies with great passion have aided, such as the National Child Protection Task Force, of which Kevin Branzetti is the co-founder. Kevin joins us in this episode to talk more about his 30 years of experience in law enforcement, his online safety recommendations, insights into the nation’s runaway situation, and his thoughts on masculine culture. He also shares the #1 tip to keep children safe online. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode National Child Protection Task Force https://ncptf.org/ Click Safe Intelligence: https://clicksafeintelligence.com/ Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Kevin Branzetti ● [05:00] Kevin's professional background and how he got into the NCPTF ● [12:24] Limitations & frustrations of law enforcement officers doing their investigative work ● [15:12] The scope of the National Child Protection Task Force and its work ● [18:23] The driving force among the team’s passion in the work ● [20:36] How Kevin and his team have been able to build trust ● [25:04] Biggest technology shifts in the time he has been on the task force ● [27:43] Runaways vs real trafficking in victims and how to distinguish ● [32:55] How can men offer assistance even if they have never heard a badge and a gun ● [37:44] The mental impact of the cases Kevin has been investigating ● [41:02] A common frustrating masculine culture Kevin has encountered in his work ● [48:29] How to keep your child safe on the internet ● [53:52] Kevin's best advice to parents with young kids ● [01:00:02] Online safety resources for parents Kevin recommends ● [01:01:30] Life-giving therapy activities that keep Kevin motivated for the task force ● [01:04:27] What is on the future horizon for the National Child Protection Task Force ● [01:05:37] Why sextortion is the most troubling trend and the best defence ● [01:11:10] Kevin's final thoughts and words of challenge to us ● [01:12:44] Ending the show Standout Quotes: ● “When you save one child from an abduction, that becomes an addiction that fuels your passion.”- [18:31] ● “All detective skills will never disappear, even with the sophisticated technology. They will never be replaced.”- [26:43] ● “You don't investigate the why until you find the victim. You find first, then investigate after.”- [27:43] ● “A runaway is at the massive risk of becoming trafficked, murdered, abducted or part of a criminal system.”- [30:15] ● “The most important thing for a leader is to care for their people. But they cannot do so if they are not cared for either.”- [38:31] ● “Having dinner with your kids every night is one of the first basic steps to keep them safe online. Parenting style should not change. Technology is just another toy.”- [48:29] ● “Your child being abducted by a stranger is less likely than your kid being killed by a spider bite. But your child being lured and abducted online can happen in your circle and faster than you think.”- [50:23] Let’s Connect https://www.epikproject.org/ [email protected] www.instagram.com/epik_project
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Andrea Heinz - Sex Trade Survivor Turned Advocate
Survivor Turned Advocate: Andrea Heinz's Healing, Hope and Advocacy for Abolition of Sex Trade Have you ever wondered how sexual exploitation and sex work impact the individuals involved, particularly women? The ripple effects of commercial sex and sexual exploitation extend beyond the immediate exchange, influencing emotional, psychological, and relational well-being. Many women in this space find themselves trapped in a challenging paradox—they may not necessarily enjoy the work. Yet, they feel compelled to maintain a façade to cater to the egos of the men they serve to secure their income. The collateral damage of these transactions is substantial, leading to a compromised trajectory in life and a devaluation of personal worth due to the inherently transactional and inauthentic nature of the interactions involved. In this episode, Andrea Heinz shares her story, how she entered and exited the commercial sex industry, and how her journey took her from actively participating in commercial sex, then brothel ownership, to eventually becoming a vocal advocate for the abolition of the entire industry. We also discuss philosophy, culture, feminism, and how to distinguish between commercial sex, prostitution, sex trafficking, and exploitation. Andrea Heinz is a partner in our work at Epik Project, a Canadian educator and activist who has spent 7 years in the licensed sex trade, existing from the industry in December 2012. Andrea is one of the most compelling voices advocating for the abolition of the sex trade in North America. She holds a diploma in correctional services and is completing a bachelor's of professional arts in governance, law, and management. Andrea is a peer-reviewed scholar on the topic of commercial sexual exploitation and was honored with a Woman of Courage award by the Center to End All Sexual Exploitation in Edmonton. Recently, Andrea and co-author Kathy Kings published a book, When Men Buy Sex; Who Really Pays?: Canadian Stories of Exploitation, Survival, and Advocacy. Note: This conversation includes some sensitive content that might not be suitable for all audiences and ages. However, it serves as a powerful testament to the impact of sexual exploitation and sex work. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode Epik Project: https://www.epikproject.org/ When Men Buy Sex: Who Really Pays?: https://www.amazon.in/When-Men-Buy-Sex-Exploitation/dp/1039168507 A Mule for the P A Mule for the Patriarchy: https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1234&context=dignity Insights from Sex Trade Experienced Persons (InSTEP) Model: https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/vol5/iss1/8/ Ride My Road: https://www.ridemyroad.org/ A Tribute to All Who Are Lost Among Us: https://www.missingcara.ca/ 'Labeled' an 8-episode docuseries: https://www.justinkueber.com/work/labeleddocuseries Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Intro and a quick bio of the guest, Andrea Heinz ● [05:40] A bit about Andrea’s story and journey in the commercial sex space ● [09:39] What triggered Andrea's transition into activism and advocacy ● [12:30] Andrea’s awakening and how the voices of survivors piqued her interest ● [14:57] The zest behind Andrea’s writing: A Mule for the Patriarchy ● [21:59] Prostitution vs. sex work vs. sex trafficking and sexual exploitation ● [26:52] Andrea’s perspective on the notion “Sex work is empowering.” ● [31:30] The role of technology in shaping culture ● [35:58] How sex work differentiates and how we can respond to it ● [41:17] How indigenous and vulnerable women are threatened by the sex market ● [44:21] The connection between trafficking and missing and murdered indigenous women ● [46:35] Three leaders Andrea gives a shout to in the indigenous movements ● [52:20] Where Andrea sees hope in the young generation ● [55:07] Radical feminism and what it means ● [01:02:47] The influence of the older generation on the young generation ● [01:07:35] Life-giving things that keep Andrea going ● [01:10:45] Bearing beauty: Something beautiful Andrea witnessed recently ● [01:12:28] Letting go of trauma and changing how you look at it ● [01:14:12] The work Andrea is doing and two things she is focusing on the most ● [01:20:52] Andrea’s final words of encouragement to the listeners ● [01:23:00] Ending the show Standout Quotes: ● “Whether you are a buyer or a seller, the commercial sex industry is not conducive to where you want to genuinely end up in life and what you value because a lot of men go in looking for love and affection, but they are purchased and therefore not authentic.” - [25:17] ● “Empathy is foundational to justice because if we can’t put ourselves in their place, it’s never going to change.”- [30:14] ● “So many women in sex work don’t like the job, but they have to lie to the women who are so swallowed up by the work and the men they are selling sex to, to appease their egos and get their money.”- [39:02] ● “There is nobody who is completely rigid; we can all be open to change and awakening.”- [63:08] ● “It’s just as important for us to work with the older generation as it’s with the younger ones because the older ones are still going to have the influence and set the examples for the younger one.”- [63:23] ● “You can never rid yourself fully of trauma, but you can change how you look at it.”- [72:41] Let’s Connect Epik Project Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/epik_project/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/epikproject Twitter: https://twitter.com/Epik_Project YouTube: <a href=...
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Elizabeth Smart: Abduction, Survival and a Story of Resilience
The miracle of her rescue marked the beginning of a new chapter, but it came with its own set of challenges. Yet, from the dark experience emerged a remarkable woman with an unwavering commitment to turning pain into purpose. Elizabeth's journey led her to establish the Elizabeth Smart Foundation, a testament to her dedication to bringing hope and ending the victimization and exploitation of sexual assault through education, healing, and advocacy. Note: This conversation includes some sensitive content that might not be suitable for all audiences and ages. However, it serves as a powerful reminder that even in the face of adversity, we can triumph, and our resilience can shape a life of purpose and meaning. Tune in! Resources Mentioned in the Episode: Elizabeth Smart Foundation: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/ Smart Defense: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/smart-defense We Believe You Campaign: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/we-believe-you Malouf Foundation: https://www.malouffoundation.org/esfannouncement/ I Am On Watch Organization: https://www.iamonwatch.org/ OnWatch Training: https://www.iamonwatch.org/training Key Highlights From The Show: ● [00:01] Introduction to the show ● [5:40] Elizabeth's story: How she was kidnaped and held captive at 14 ● [9:00] Elizabeth's fear and how it influenced her choices to survive ● [13:05] Why Elizabeth didn’t fall for the kidnapper's religious rationalization ● [16:00] Tactics the captors used to keep people away from Elizabeth and others captive ● [16:30] Elizabeth's experience when she was rescued after 9 months in captivity ● [24:09] How it was for Elizabeth to reintegrate into the normal world after captivity ● [26:00] How Elizabeth navigated the trauma from the experience ● [29:21] How Elizabeth’s experience inspires her work today and her vision ● [30:10] Elizabeth Smart’s Foundation and their programs ● [40:30] How our response can set the trajectory and be a starting point for healing ● [49:50] Why women are often not believed when they report sexual abuse ● [55:44] What it is for Elizabeth and her husband raising a daughter and son ● [01:00:45] Elizabeth's thoughts on parenting and her advice to other parents ● [01:04:00] Life-giving things that Elizabeth is committed to as a young parent ● [01:09:50] Elizabeth’s final words of encouragement ● [01:11:21] Ending the show ● A message from the producer Let’s Connect www.epikproject.org [email protected] Instagram: www.instagram.org/epik_project Facebook: www.facebook.com/epikproject Youtube: www.youtube.com/@EpikProject Twitter: www.twitter.com/Epik_Project Credits: Host - Tom Perez Producer - Lauren Trantham Logo Art - Michelle Boucher Theme Music - Wesley Finley
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Welcome to the Masculine Wilderness Podcast
This podcast is for men and the women who love them. These conversations are about masculinity in today's world, which can often feel like a wilderness. Listen to navigate this wilderness together.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Not only is masculinity a wilderness, we often feel alone in it. Male loneliness is at epidemic levels which is not only tragic, it correlates to more men seeking commercial sex. Unfortunately, the demand for commercial sex is precisely what drives human trafficking! On this podcast, we discuss aspects of modern masculinity with leaders across various social justice and professional backgrounds so you can increase your tools for navigating the Masculine Wilderness.
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