The Relocated South African | Emigration stories

In today’s episode I talk with Lazola Tutani who shares his inspiring journey from South Africa to the US via Germany.We discuss his early life and the lessons learnt from his rugby coaches in the Eastern Cape.He highlights his career in manufacturing, cultural adaptation, and future ambitions to contribute back home. He shares insights on living abroad, career growth, and maintaining family connections across continents.He talks about how his young family adapted two two moves across continents and how they enjoy life in the USHis ultimate goal is to return to South Africa to make a contribution to the country.Lazola Tutani: "Anything is possible if you have a vision”                              ”Work hard and be stubborn to pursue your dreams"Chapters00:00 Introduction and Lazola's Background02:24 Early Life and Education in South Africa05:34 Working as a Petrol Attendant During University08:06 Relocating to Germany for Career Opportunities09:29 Learning German and Cultural Integration12:11 Family Challenges and Adaptation in Germany16:43 Transition from Germany to the US20:33 First Impressions and Life in the US22:56 Visa, Work, and Family in America26:28 Participating in Ironman and Personal Challenges29:01 US Healthcare and Food Culture31:44 Family Exercise and School System in the US35:58 South African Community and Cultural Integration37:48 Challenges of Living in the US39:19 Missing Family and Future Plans41:48 Return to South Africa and Contributing to the Country45:10 Mentorship, Giving Back, and Future Aspirations46:31 Final Advice and Inspirational MessageLinkedIn Profile of Lazola Titani - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lazolatitaniYour documents should not slow down your new life. Apostil obtains, processes, and couriers South African police clearances, apostille certificates, unabridged documents, and more, directly to your door, anywhere in the world. Fast, professional, and stress-free. Need your documents sorted? Visit Aposil here -https://tinyurl.com/apostilcozaDocuments with convenience.

In this episode I speak with  Jesse Green the founder of Apostil.co.za.He shares his journey from South Africa to Seville in Spain.He provides insights on immigration, and the services offered by apostill.co.za to assist South Africans with documentation and legal processes.He discusses some of the challenges and solutions encountered in dealing with international documentation. We explore the cost of living and quality of life as well as the language, culture, and integration in SpainJesse Green: "Immersing in the culture is essential." "Professional help saves time and money."Chapters00:00 Journey of Immigration: From South Africa to Spain05:48 Cultural Immersion and Language Challenges in Spain12:17 Navigating Tax and Healthcare as an Expat in Spain19:00 Building a Business: Apostil.co.za and Its Growth24:48 From Recruitment to E-commerce26:20 The Need for Documentation31:33 Being Document Ready for Immigration34:05 Services Offered for South Africans36:41 Navigating Visa Applications39:05 Common Mistakes in Document Processing42:00 Last-Minute Solutions and Delays46:48 Entrepreneurship Across Borders48:38 Cultural Differences and Personal Touch ResourcesWebsite - https://apostil.co.zaJesse Green linksLinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/jessegreen

In this episode I speak with Rob Mailich, a seasoned South African entrepreneur and recruitment expert.He shares his fascinating journey from Johannesburg to London and beyond. He discusses the importance of maintaining cultural roots, the realities of immigration, and the value of international experience for young professionals.He highlights the cultural attributes of South Africans that make them stand out globally.Rob says that the role of family in cross-border relocations and immigration choices can never be underestimated.Rob emphasises that embracing change, maintaining cultural pride, and continuously learning are key to thriving abroad. His insights remind us that regardless of where we are in the world, staying connected to our roots and fostering community are vital for success and happiness.Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Rob Mailich 02:14 - Growing up in Johannesburg and early educational path03:32 - Rob’s first international move and work in Atlanta, Georgia05:28 - Returning to South Africa and transition into recruitment06:18 - Starting Redi Recruitment during the 2008 financial crisis07:22 - Rob's move to London to establish UK operations09:01 - Rob's perspectives on cultural identity and maintaining South African roots abroad10:47 - The South African passion, humour, and community spirit15:12 - Top countries for South African professionals to immigrate to, including the UK, Canada, and Australia16:45 - Skills in demand abroad: engineers, CAs, and other professionals18:54 - Trends of returning South Africans and age demographics influencing immigration20:20 - South African work ethic, problem-solving, and diversity as attractive qualities abroad25:07 - Follow-up for placed candidates and career growth over the years27:04 - The emotional challenges of immigration and the importance of community support networks29:55 - Family considerations and the influence of children and aging parents on migration decisions31:42 - The psychological effects of migration and lessons learned35:11 - Rob's advice for those contemplating migration and cultural adaptation37:16 - South African identity across borders and the emotional pull of home38:34 - Support and unity among South Africans abroad40:35 - Rob’s favourite country to live in: South Africa, and his love for travel and lifestyle48:00 - How to connect with Rob and resources for career and relocation guidanceResources & Links:https://rediholbourne.com/Rob's LinkedIn profile (search "Rob Mailich")Rob's Instagram and Facebook page links (available on his website)Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

Explore the compelling story of Ankia Coetzer, a South African whose life has spanned several countries, careers, and personal challenges. Her journey highlights the complexities of migration, the importance of resilience, and the evolving meaning of home.Ankia shares  how her early relocation from Johannesburg shaped her perspective on migrationShe talks about the experiences and lessons learned during her two decades of living and working in London and how she navigated visa pathways, citizenship, and tax implications across the UK and South AfricaShe highlights the impact of family, health crises, and personal growth on her international decision-makingTimestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Ankia´s unique relocation story01:16 - Early beginnings and moving between South African towns02:41 - First move to London and initial work experiences03:24 - Why London was the chosen destination in 200004:44 - Starting her career in retail and retail management06:26 - Transition into recruitment and HR consulting08:08 - Returning to South Africa and the challenges of visa and education rules10:29 - Deciding to study HR and career development in South Africa12:02 - Balancing work, study, and entrepreneurial efforts as a student14:23 - Re-entering the UK visa system and professional growth16:53 - Building lasting relationships and community across different years and countries18:57 - The complexities of immigration compliance and becoming a UK citizen22:26 - Reflections on the privilege of citizenship and the costs involved24:09 - Moving back to South Africa in 2020 during the pandemic33:27 - Navigating homelessness and repatriation during COVID lockdowns36:52 - Realising her impact through coaching and relationships in her current career40:07 - The importance of soft skills and emotional intelligence in leadership42:13 - Family, safety, and balancing dual identities across borders45:42 - What South Africa means to her and the pull of home53:52 - The challenges and opportunities of working in both countries54:12 - Looking back and advice for her younger selfConnect with AnkiaLinkedIn - Ankia Coetzer MBAEmail - [email protected] your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

In this episode, I speak with Johan Jooste who has lived in 4 countries abroad and is considering moving back to South Africa.He shares his extensive journey as a South African expatriate, detailing his experiences living in various countries including Jersey, London, Singapore, and Liechtenstein. He discusses the challenges of relocation, the importance of family dynamics, and the emotional and logistical hurdles faced during their transitions. Johan reflects on the lessons learned throughout his journey, the impact on his family, and the considerations involved in potentially returning to South Africa. He emphasises the need for flexibility, thorough research, and the significance of support systems in navigating life abroad.He highlights that financial strains can be unexpected when relocating to a new country. Johan Jooste: “You can't do too much research."Chapters00:00 Introduction to Johann's Journey01:06 Early Life and Education02:29 Career Beginnings and First Move05:03 Life in London and Transition to Singapore16:21 Challenges of Relocation and Family Dynamics21:41 Considering a Return to South Africa32:04 Comparative Experiences in Different Countries46:08 Cost of Living and Bureaucracy Insights52:18 Reflections on the JourneyFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak with Wendy Williams who left South Africa for Australia at age 45.Wendy shares her inspiring story of moving from Zimbabwe to South Africa and eventually settling in Australia. Her journey highlights the courage it takes to restart later in life, navigate complex immigration processes, and embrace new opportunities.She discusses adjusting to life in Australia: safety, quality of life, and cultural differenceHer advice for prospective emigrants: seize opportunities and stay positiveChapters00:00 Introduction01:51 Wendy’s early life in Rhodesia and education background02:52 Moving from Zimbabwe to South Africa in 198403:44 Farmer life and family in South Africa before emigrating04:54 The gradual decision to leave South Africa amid political uncertainty06:51 Deciding to emigrate to Australia and the four-year process10:15 Navigating visa challenges and qualification recognition13:22 The emotional and practical coping strategies during the long wait14:57 Landing in South Australia with immediate PR and support16:53 The kids’ experience and integration into Australian life17:09 The importance of community and support networks19:51 Farm work, career shifts, and embracing change at mid-life23:45 The bold move into hydraulics and starting a new business29:44 Adjusting to life on the coast, retirement plans, and lifestyle in South Australia30:55 Reflections on missing South Africa, safety, and wildlife32:07 Thinking retrospectively: leaving earlier or at the right time?34:28 Advice to young families considering migration36:59 Wendy’s current activities: selling biltong and community involvement38:46 The joy of sharing South African culture abroad and future outlookFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak with Vincent Heys, a South African immigrant to Canada, about his journey of relocation, the challenges faced in adapting to a new country, and the importance of financial planning for immigrants. We discuss family dynamics, the decision-making process behind immigration, and the role of faith and community support. Vincent shares insights on the differences in education and healthcare systems between South Africa and Canada, as well as the mission behind his business, WealthStack, which aims to provide clarity and peace of mind for clients navigating their financial futures in a new country.He highlights that immigrants often underestimate the emotional impact of leaving friends and family behind.Vincent Heys: “It's not for sissies."Chapters00:00 Navigating Immigration and New Beginnings02:20 Vincent's Journey: From South Africa to Canada07:45 Family Dynamics in Immigration10:32 The Decision to Leave: Push vs. Pull Factors15:59 Faith and Community in Decision Making20:08 Adapting to Life in Canada28:47 Education and Healthcare: A Comparative Perspective36:41 Financial Planning for Immigrants45:50 Building a Business: WealthStack's Mission54:30 Advice for Future ImmigrantsVincent is active on Linked in and his business can be found at www.wealthstack.ca.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at 

In this episode, I speak with Graham Cosgrave, a recruiter for doctors in Ireland, discussing the intricacies of relocating for medical professionals, particularly from South Africa. We explore the challenges faced during relocation, the unique qualities of South African doctors, and the importance of family and community integration in the process. Graham shares insights on the growing interest from South African doctors, common mistakes made during relocation, and the financial considerations involved. He says that South African doctors are adaptable and resourceful.The conversation highlights the cultural adjustments required and concludes with success stories of doctors who have made Ireland their home.Graham Cosgrave “The Irish and South Africans get on very well."Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background of the Podcast02:43 The Role of Recruitment in Doctor Relocation05:34 The Importance of Community and Support08:31 Growing Interest from South African Doctors11:12 Unique Qualities of South African Doctors14:25 Adapting to Life in Ireland17:26 Family Dynamics in Relocation20:10 The Impact of Global Dynamics on Relocation23:42 Understanding the Relocation Process26:24 Characteristics of a Successful Relocation Candidate27:23 Common Mistakes in Relocation29:09 Financial Considerations for Relocating Doctors31:39 Cultural and System Shocks in Relocation34:30 The Journey to Irish Citizenship36:55 Success Stories of Relocated Doctors39:23 Embracing Irish Culture and Community41:10 The Doctor Diaries PodcastGraham is active on LinkedIn and has a podcast- Doctor Diaries: Adventures to Ireland. It is available on all podcast platforms.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode I speak with Kurt De Bique, a South African who has made the significant transition from Cape Town to Copenhagen. Kurt shares his journey, detailing his upbringing in Cape Town, the pivotal moments that led to his family's decision to emigrate, and the challenges they faced during the relocation process. He reflects on the emotional farewells to family and friends, the cultural adjustments, and the practicalities of settling into a new country, including housing, schooling, and the cost of living in Denmark.Kurt emphasises the importance of resilience and adaptability in the face of change, noting that while the move was not without its difficulties, it has also brought about personal and professional growth for both him and his wife. He discusses the role of faith in their decision-making process and how it has provided a sense of stability amidst the uncertainties of relocation. The conversation also touches on the joys of exploring Europe, the differences in lifestyle, and the unique experiences that come with living abroad, ultimately highlighting the enriching journey of embracing a new life while cherishing the roots left behind.Kurt De Bique “It's not for the faint-hearted."Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest01:09 Kurt's Background and Early Life in Cape Town05:08 The Decision to Move to Copenhagen08:57 Challenges of Relocation and Family Dynamics15:38 The Role of Faith in the Journey20:15 Living Conditions and Cost of Living in Denmark26:37 Coping with the Weather and Language Barriers32:13 Healthcare and Taxes in Denmark42:17 Professional Growth and Opportunities Abroad50:55 What They Miss About South Africa53:31 Closing Thoughts and ReflectionsFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak with John Pereira, a South African living in Ukraine.We explore his journey from South Africa to the UK at age 20 and eventually to Ukraine. John shares his experiences in the British Armed Forces, his deployment to Iraq and Afghanistan, and his life in Ukraine during the ongoing conflict. He moved from Kyiv to Lviv due to the ongoing conflict in Kyiv.He discusses cultural insights, economic comparisons, and the challenges of living in a war-torn country. John also reflects on his visit to South Africa and offers advice for young South Africans regarding financial education and opportunities abroad.John Pereira: “ I wish I saved more”Chapters00:00 - Introduction to John Pereira and his journey from South Africa to Ukraine02:16 - John's early life in Kempton Park and move to the UK in 200403:23 - Working as a labourer and medical trials in London04:50 - Joining the British Army and deployment to Iraq and Afghanistan10:26 - Experiences in Iraq’s Basra and Helmand Province12:00 - The reality of war: casualties, survival, and combat13:00 - Transition to civilian life and life in Scotland as a bouncer and entrepreneur15:21 - Moving to Ukraine for holiday and decision to settle16:19 - Life in Kyiv before the full-scale invasion18:36 - The full-scale invasion: early days, chaos, and resilience20:02 - Power outages, infrastructure attacks, and the ongoing war22:12 - Comparing corruption and societal structures in Ukraine and South Africa23:28 - Living in Lviv: culture, architecture, and local atmosphere25:46 - Marshal law, military drafts, and the impact on daily life27:45 - Community involvement, volunteering, and safety measures30:14 - Ukrainian cuisine, hospitality, and cultural norms33:31 - Ukrainians' friendliness, language, and cultural nuances36:41 - Cost of living, salaries, and the IT sector's growth in Ukraine40:02 - Healthcare system, hospitals, and medical services during wartime43:11 - Weather adaptation and the Ukrainian lifestyle in winter45:32 - Clothing, winter gear, and Ukrainian customs47:33 - Travel routes into Ukraine: Warsaw, Krakow, Budapest, and border challenges48:36 - Returning briefly to South Africa: perceptions and realities50:17 - Future prospects for South Africans abroad and John's views on governanceJohn is very active on TikTok using the handle @diary_safa_john_travel.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this conversation, I speak with Dr. Mario Denton a world renowned coach and speaker.He shares his insights on immigration, personal growth, and the emotional challenges faced by South Africans considering moving abroad. He discusses the importance of understanding one's purpose, the emotional costs of immigration, and the need for support networks. Dr. Denton emphasises that immigration is not a selfish decision but rather a complex choice influenced by various factors, including personal growth opportunities and family dynamics. He also highlights the significance of emotional intelligence in navigating these challenges and encourages individuals to seek guidance in their decision-making process.According to Dr Denton not everyone is a candidate for emigration-self-awareness is key.Dr “Mario Denton: "You are the CEO of your own life."Chapters00:00 Introduction to Immigration and Personal Growth03:09 Dr. Mario Denton's Background and Experience05:51 Perspectives on Immigration: Selfishness vs. Opportunity09:03 Emotional and Mindset Challenges in South Africa11:52 Who Should and Should Not Immigrate?14:50 Coping with Trauma and Emotional Challenges17:46 The Role of Parents in Supporting Immigrants20:58 Maintaining Family Connections Across Borders24:04 The Costs of Immigration: Emotional and Financial26:39 Future Considerations for Families in South Africa27:32 Navigating Life Abroad: Opportunities and Challenges28:51 Coping with Loneliness: The Emotional Toll of Distance31:13 The Importance of Sharing: Building Support Networks33:48 South Africa's Future: Balancing Hope and Reality38:40 Exploring Opportunities: To Stay or To Go?41:48 Understanding Disengagement: The Path from Engagement to Disconnection48:36 Finding Purpose: Aligning Life Choices with Personal ValuesContact Dr Denton at www.drmariodenton.com.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak with Abré Van Wyk the host of the KarooKiwi podcast about his personal story of moving from South Africa to Hamilton, New Zealand.He highlights the immigration process, community integration, and the realities of living abroad. We explore his insights on setting up a business, cultural differences, and maintaining connections with South Africa. We discuss building community and networks in New Zealand and the inspiration behind the Karookiwi podcast.He shares some sound advice for anyone considering emigration.Abré gives us a bit of insight into the cost of living in New Zealand versus South Africa and Australia.He also stresses how important it is to maintain mental health and faith while abroad.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction to Abré’s story and podcast04:10 - Deciding to move to New Zealand after visiting family07:12 - The role of family and community in expatriation08:36 - Origins and goals of the KarooKiwi podcast10:03 - Guests and topics featured on KarooKiwi podcast16:39 - Comparing New Zealand and Australia for emigrants17:40 - Meeting South Africans and social integration18:45 - Local social customs and community life20:13 - Challenges of household help and day-to-day living22:08 - Travel and flight times back to South Africa23:26 - Reflections on the past year and lessons learned25:24 - Healthcare in New Zealand: access and costs29:14 - Tax residency and maintaining South African links32:16 - What Aubrey would ship from South Africa today33:42 - Local faith communities and church life in New Zealand37:23 - Closing remarks and future collaborationsThe KarooKiwi website is www.karookiwi.com. Abré is also active on LinkedIn and other social media. Contact Abré at [email protected] your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In episode 48, I  interview Danie Brink, a South African math teacher who has navigated multiple relocations to the US. Danie shares his journey from South Africa to the US, discussing his teaching experiences, the challenges of immigration, and the importance of education. He also highlights his charity work, Stepping Into Grace, born out of a family tragedy, which provides prosthetic limbs to those in need in South Africa. The conversation touches on the realities of life in the US, including the cost of living, community engagement, and the emotional aspects of leaving one's home country.He discusses moving from being a teacher at the prestigious Pretoria Boys High to almost starting over in America.His wife homeschools the children and he discusses his views on homeschooling as a teacher himself.We discuss the cost of living in the US which can be manageable for teachers, especially dual-income families.He suggests that Immigrants should consider trying life in a new country, as they can always return if needed, as they have proven.Danie Brink: “We are where God wants us now."Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest01:10 Danie’s Background and Journey to the U.S.07:05 Graduate Studies and Immigration Insights13:40 The Impact of a Tragic Accident17:08 Establishing a Nonprofit for Prosthetics19:10 Life in Georgia and Cultural Connections25:28 Homeschooling Philosophy and Practices40:03 A morning run discussion47:22 American friendshipsThe charity which provides prosthetic limbs can be found at www.steppingintograce.com.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In Episode 47 I speak with Nichola Kühne a South African brand specialist and founder of “From Startup to Wunderbrand” podcast.Nicholas talks about his early life in South Africa, his professional journey in branding and marketing and the adjustments he and his family have made in Norway.The discussion touches on cultural integration, the South African identity abroad, and the importance of community. Nicholas also reflects on the work ethic of South Africans and offers valuable advice for those considering immigration. The conversation concludes with insights on personal growth and the joys of living in a new country.He encourages others to embrace their strengths rather than focus on weaknesses.Nicholas believes in the value of community and making connections in a new country.He shares insights on the importance of integrating into the local culture.Nicholas advises future immigrants to consider Scandinavia for its quality of life.He expresses gratitude for his journey and the opportunities it has provided.Nicholas Kühne: “Norway is a play-play land."Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Journey02:41 Nicholas's Background and Early Life05:35 Career Path and Experiences in Africa08:24 Emigration to Malaysia and Its Challenges11:00 Transition to Norway and Cultural Adjustments13:42 Social Dynamics and Community in Norway16:26 Navigating Identity as an Expat19:05 Reflections on South African Heritage21:40 Business Ventures and Podcasting Journey24:32 Advice for New Immigrants30:50 Building Brands for Emerging Markets38:01 Focusing on Strengths Over Weaknesses41:38 The South African Work Ethic Abroad48:24 Navigating Business and Tax in Norway54:35 Embracing Life in NorwayNicholas’ podcast is available on all platforms as From Startup to Wunderbrand. His website is: https://www.kuhne.no/Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak with Reeva Cutting, a South African expat living in Perth, Australia. Reeva shares her journey of immigration, the challenges of moving with family, and the importance of mental health and support systems. Emigrating three times and finally finding her home in Perth Western Australia, reeva has a wealth of information and advice that she shares in the discussion.We discuss the financial considerations for immigrants, cultural adjustments, and the reflections on life as an expat. Reeva emphasises the need for commitment when relocating and offers valuable advice for those considering immigration.Reeva Cutting: “Be prepared to change your plan."Chapters00:00 Introduction to Immigration and Blogging03:02 Reeva's Immigration Journey05:49 Challenges of Moving with Family08:59 Navigating Work and Mental Health11:53 Financial Considerations for Immigrants14:50 Cultural Adjustments and Support Systems17:48 Life in Australia vs. South Africa20:37 Reflections on Expat Life23:54 Advice for Prospective ImmigrantsReeva´s website is www.proudlysouthafricaninperth.com and she is on Facebook as “Proudly South African in Perth” and you can contact her at [email protected] your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak  with Wendy Carlsson, a South African who relocated to Sweden. Wendy shares her journey from growing up in a coloured community in Cape Town to adapting to life in Sweden.She shares her experiences with cultural differences, starting a business, and the challenges of being away from her family. She reflects on the beauty of her new life while also expressing the emotional complexities of leaving her homeland. Wendy offers insights into the cost of living in Sweden, the importance of community, and advice for young South Africans considering emigration.She makes a point to travel back home regularly to see her family.Wendy Carlsson: "Life in Sweden has been wonderful, perfect growth for me in that in a world where you don't have to worry about safety," Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Journey02:49 Wendy's Background and Early Life11:51 Life in Sweden: A New Beginning13:06 Starting a Business in Sweden15:05 Adapting to Swedish Winters17:11 Cultural Differences and Food20:01 Reflections on South Africa23:26 Cost of Living and Community28:31 Advice for Young South Africans33:15 Conclusion and Future AspirationsFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

In this episode I speak to Marlene Prentice the owner of Migration Network Australia. She shares the inspiring journey of a family determined to emigrate to Australia despite facing numerous challenges.  Their journey motivated her to leave her accounting career to become an immigration agent to help others. One of the beautiful stories she shares is about a young mother who, lacking qualifications and work experience, embarked on a seven-year journey to secure a visa for her family. Through perseverance and dedication, she successfully navigated the visa process, ultimately achieving her dream of settling in Australia with her family. She offers valuable advice for people who want to immigrate to Australia.  Marlene prentice: “ I don’t like taking people’s money knowing that they are not going to get a visa…” 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:03 Marlene's Journey to Australia 00:09 Cultural Differences and Challenges 00:15 Establishing Migration Network Australia 00:21 Advice for Future Immigrants 00:27 Current Immigration Landscape in Australia 00:33 Conclusion and Contact Information Marlene’s contact details are as follows: Website https://www.migrationnetworkaustralia.com Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode I speak with Nic Latouf, a South African entrepreneur and co-founder of the Lekker Network. We discuss Nic's journey from Pretoria Boys High to building a global network for South Africans, emphasising the importance of community, connection, and the potential of the South African diaspora. We explore the challenges and opportunities faced by South Africans abroad, the significance of networking, and the positive impact of the Lekker Network in fostering collaboration and support among its members. Nic shares insights on maintaining a positive mindset, the emotional toll of immigration, and the upcoming book 'Winning the Away Game,' which highlights the successes of South Africans worldwide.He also discusses the need top maintain positivity and wellness for South Africans abroad.Nic Latouf: “Focus is the key to success."Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Relocated South African Podcast01:10 Nic Latouf: Background and Early Ventures03:01 The Birth of the Lekker Network08:42 Building a Global Community of South Africans12:59 The Power of the South African Diaspora16:14 Connecting Opportunities: Real Stories of Impact18:54 Future Plans and the Impact of the Lekker Network30:37 Maintaining Independence and Future Investments33:12 The Power of Positivity in the Diaspora36:22 Navigating Family Dynamics and Immigration Challenges42:25 Inclusivity in Business Networks46:56 Celebrating South African Success Stories53:03 Advice for Young Entrepreneurs56:59 Balancing Work and Family LifeNic is active on Linkedin @niclatouf. Visit the Lekker network at www.the lekkernetwork.com.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode of the Relocated South African podcast, host I speak  with Kirsty Jones, founder of Federated Advisory in Dubai. Kirsty shares her journey from South Africa to Dubai, discussing the safety, stability, and opportunities the UAE offers for expats. She highlights the challenges of starting a business in a new country, the importance of transparency in advisory services, and the need for community among South Africans abroad. She also believes that the UAE offers a transparent government and very low taxes combined with absolute physical safety.Kirsty also addresses the cultural dynamics of being a woman in business, the cost of living in Dubai, and the unique challenges of communication in the UAE. Maintaining family connections is critical for emotional well-being.The conversation concludes with valuable advice for those considering relocation to the UAE.Kirsty Jones: “Dubai is very fitness focused." "I miss South African chips so much!"Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Relocated South African Show01:04 Kirsty Jones: Journey from South Africa to Dubai02:13 Why Choose the UAE? Safety and Stability03:16 Starting a Business in Dubai: Kirsty's Experience05:14 The Need for Transparency in Advisory Services06:56 Navigating Business Setup in the UAE08:14 Common Business Ventures for South Africans09:47 Supporting South Africans in Job Searches11:07 Overcoming Red Tape in the UAE12:19 Cultural Dynamics: Women in Business15:46 Challenges of Isolation in a New Country17:12 Building Community Among Expats18:51 The Temporary Nature of Life in Dubai19:07 Connecting People and Networking20:02 Finding Accommodation in Dubai20:30 Coping with the UAE's Climate24:41 Cost of Living: Balancing Salaries and Expenses28:30 Understanding Alcohol Regulations in the UAE29:49 Communication Challenges: WhatsApp and VPNs33:04 Advice for Future Expats34:34 Final Thoughts on Relocating to the UAEContact Kirsty at www.federatedadvisory.comFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

A few thoughts on the complexities of celebrating Christmas as an expatriate from South Africa. I share personal experiences of joy and sadness during the holiday season, with emphasis the emotional toll of immigration on family connections. I talk about the challenges of maintaining relationships with children and grandchildren who live far away, and the bittersweet nature of long-distance family gatherings. Treasure time with loved ones and to reach out to others who may be experiencing similar feelings of separation and loss.Jan Hugo: “I know your pain. I know how you feel."Chapters00:00 Christmas Reflections: A Time of Joy and Sadness06:04 The Impact of Immigration on Family Connections08:45 Sharing the Journey: Connecting with Others in Similar SituationsFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak with Justinus Adriaanse, a South African entrepreneur now based in Canada. We discuss Justinus' journey from Pretoria to Canada, the challenges and triumphs of relocating.He shares how skiing became a passion and a way to connect with his new life in Canada.He emphasises the importance of family support during the immigration process. Justinus shares insights on maintaining ties to South Africa and the impact of his coding academy, We Think Code which provides opportunities for preserving candidates to learn coding skills.We Think Code has transformed the lives of many underprivileged youth in South AfricaWe also discuss his passion for rugby and the role it has in connecting South Africans abroad. He emphasises the need for action and consistency in making a difference, whether in business or charitable endeavours.Justinus Adriaanse: “Being on the same page is key." "You have to push your comfort zone."Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Journey of Relocation02:54 Justinus' Early Life and Move to Canada06:35 The Skiing Adventure and Its Impact10:52 The Importance of Family Support in Immigration13:07 Children's Adaptation and Cultural Identity17:36 Feeling More South African Abroad19:48 Charitable Work and Impact of We Think Code26:34 Government Support and Collaboration28:45 Rugby Vision and Community Projects31:12 The Journey to the Final: A Rugby Fan's Adventure33:30 Building a Rugby Talent Pipeline in South Africa36:44 The Importance of Opportunity in Sports37:43 Challenges of Starting Over in a New Country40:31 Networking: The Key to Entrepreneurial Success42:42 Changing Perceptions: South Africans Abroad50:28 Lessons Learned: Reflections on Immigration53:49 Advice for Young South Africans: Exploring OpportunitiesJustinus and Flip van Der Merwe´s podcast Winning the away Game is available on all podcast platforms and Youtube :https://www.youtube.com/@WinningtheAwayGamePodcastContact Justinus on Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/justinusadriaanseFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode I chat to Desmond Denton an award-winning filmmaker who lives in Washington DC in the United States. We discuss his and his family’s journey from Stellenbosch to the United States.We also explore the challenges and triumphs of immigration and he shares insights on his filmmaking career, the emotional impact of leaving home and the importance of preserving cultural identity.Desmond’s film The Journey Home explores the lives of families and especially children who left South Africa for the United States. It is clear from the film and our discussion that children often experience a different emotional impact during immigration.We discuss the complexities of relocation, the significance of storytelling, and the lessons learned along the way.I found the discussion truly motivational and I really enjoyed Desmond’s maturity, hi faith and his amazing love for the arts.Desmond Denton: "You have to capture the present moment."Chapters00:00 Introduction to Desmond Denton and His Work03:12 Desmond's Journey in Filmmaking07:16 The Decision to Immigrate to the US13:45 Living Out Faith in Filmmaking16:27 The Journey Home: A Film on Immigration22:14 Reflections on Leaving South Africa23:59 Navigating Cultural Loss and Family Dynamics27:13 The Journey of Doubt and Adaptation30:48 The Emotional Toll of Immigration34:11 Cultural Identity and Connection Abroad37:07 Reflections on Life Choices and OpportunitiesIf you want to know more about Desmond and his filmmaking , his website is https://www.desmonddenton.com. Festive Season Far From HomeTo all South Africans spending this festive season far from the place that shaped you… we see you.The longing hits a little harder this time of year—boerewors fires, familiar voices, the smell of rain on red earth.Journey Home shares the real and raw experiences of families who took the brave leap to start over in the US. But the truest storytellers? Their children.If you’re missing home, or know someone preparing for the journey… this film is a companion.The Journey Home film is available on Amazon Prime in some locations and also on this link https://tubitv.com/movies/100028024/the-journey-homeorhttps://www.roku.com/en-gb/whats-on/movies/the-journey-home?id=ff017c49a376ffde41d679b87bad2533orhttps://tv.apple.com/gb/movie/the-journey-home/umc.cmc.4s5q6gynzbp3ztjqnfdm0onokFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

n this episode, I speak to Lumond Kritzinger, founder of HowzitExpats.com, about his emigration journey from South Africa to Ireland. We discuss the challenges and planning involved in emigration, the importance of community, and the role of HowzitExpats in supporting South Africans abroad. Lumondt shares insights on financial planning, cultural integration, and the significance of well-being for expats.He emphasises the need to plan properly in order to make emigration successful.He shares details for his well-being survey that is underway for South African expats.Lumondt Kritzinger: “If you fail to plan, you plan to fail”  Chapters00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:03 Lumondt’s Immigration Journey00:09 Challenges and Planning in Immigration00:15 Community and Cultural Integration00:21 Financial Planning for Expats00:27 The Role of HowzitExpats00:33 Well-being and Family Dynamics00:39 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsIf you want to know more about Lumondt and the well-being survey, his website is https://www.howzitexpats.com.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

In this episode, I speak to Janet Edwards, author of The Overseas Caregiver's Guid.  We discuss the challenges and emotional weight of emigrating from South Africa to Australia.  We discuss the importance of planning for the future, including legal documents like power of attorney and wills, and the emotional toll of caring for parents from afar.  Janet shares her experiences managing her parents' care and finances, as well as practical advice for expats on how to stay connected with family back home.  The conversation emphasises the need for organisation, communication, and support networks for those navigating the complexities of emigration and caregiving. She offers valuable advice for people with parents in South Africa and the importance of stayingg connected. Janet Edwards: “Just “do one thing”   Chapters 00:00 Navigating Immigration and Family Separation02:44 The Emotional Weight of emigration05:44 The Overseas Caregiver's Guide: A Roadmap08:38 Planning for the Future: Power of Attorney and Wills11:49 Caring for Parents from Afar14:27 Financial Management and Medical Aid17:35 Dealing with Scams and Financial Safety20:29 Balancing Emotions and Practicalities in Caregiving23:24 Advice for Expats: Staying Connected26:10 Reflecting on the emigration Journey29:06 Final Thoughts and Resources Janet’s contact details are as follows: Website:     https://www.theoverseascaregiver.com/overseascaregiverSales Page https://www.theoverseascaregiver.com/overseascaregiverorderform   Fb Group   The Overseas CaregiverInstagram   the_overseas_caregiveremail          [email protected] Book : AU$27 with a 44% discount voucher running until Friday, 12 December 2025 at 23h00 (Brisbane time)Voucher Code:  FLAMINGO Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

Imagine learning Afrikaans at a university in America. in this conversation I talk to Professor Jacques Duplessis who teaches Afrikaans at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee.  He shares shares his journey from South Africa to the United States, discussing his passion for teaching Afrikaans and the cultural connections he maintains.  He also talks about his love for poetry and the resources that he has built to promote the teaching of Afrikaans all over the world. He emphasizes the importance of humor, music, and family ties in navigating life abroad, while also reflecting on identity and the challenges faced by immigrants.  Jacques offers valuable advice for young South Africans considering their future, highlighting the richness of their cultural heritage and the importance of staying connected to their roots.I really enjoyed Jacques’ passion for Afrikaans and his people while building a life in the United States.  Jacques Du Plessis:"Afrikaans is a WYSIWYG language."Chapters00:00 Navigating Immigration and Personal Journeys03:13 Cultural Connections and Language Teaching05:50 Innovations in Language Education09:12 The Global Interest in Afrikaans11:56 Challenges of Less Commonly Taught Languages15:01 Language Proficiency and Cultural Nuances17:57 Understanding South African Humor20:53 Cultural Differences in Friendships23:46 The Depth of South African Connections29:31 The Richness of Afrikaans Language36:29 Cultural Identity and Language44:57 The Role of Music in Language Learning52:55 Reflections on Life Choices and IdentityFind out more about Jacques’ work on www.afrikaans.us and his personal website www.jacquesduplessis.com.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

Have you considered the feelings and emotions of parents whose children emigrate?   In this episode I talk to Dr Sulette Ferreira, a migration therapist specializing in emigration therapy for families living apart. We discuss the emotional challenges faced by families, particularly parents left behind when children emigrate.  Sulette highlights the concept of ambiguous loss, the importance of maintaining relationships across distances, and the need for community support. She emphasizes that emigration affects family dynamics and that parents often experience grief and longing for their children. The conversation also touches on the importance of seeking professional help and maintaining a positive relationship with children who have emigrated. The conversation was interesting, and it made me appreciate caring for those who remain behind. Sulette Ferreira: "Ambiguous loss is a continuous loss." Chapters00:00 Navigating emigration and Family Dynamics03:23 Understanding the Emotional Impact of emigration08:11 The Complexities of Long-Distance Relationships12:40 Grief and Ambiguous Loss in emigration17:01 The Role of Community and Support Systems21:53 Financial and Logistical Challenges of emigration26:36 Finding Meaning and Maintaining Relationships33:47 Actionable Advice for Parents Left Behind Dr Sulette can be contacted at www.drsulette.com. She is also on Facebook as Dr Sulette Ferreira and she has a private Facebook group for parents who stay behind “Worlds apart living in one heart” Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] 

The decision to emigrate has lifelong implications and challenges for everyone involved. In this episode I talk to Andrew Rissik, the Group International Director of Sable International, a well know company that has a slogan of “internationalize yourself, your wealth and your business.”Andrew speaks from own experience having moved to Portugal for part of the year while maintaining his roots in South Africa. He highlights common misconceptions, the importance of planning, tax implications, and the emotional aspects of relocating. There is no substitute for thorough research and professional advice when considering emigration. He touches on the significance of community, education opportunities abroad, and the impact of leaving loved ones behind.It was a great discussion with someone who has obviously paid his own school fees and is prepared to share his experience with the listeners.Andrew Rissik: "Engage with a trusted partner."  Chapters02:31 Andrew Rissik’s background and journey04:52 Understanding the decision to Emigrate09:36 The Importance of Planning and Research11:57 Community and Support in New Environments18:23 Navigating Tax Implications of Emigration25:17 Navigating Nationality and Immigration Claims27:35 Visa and Immigration Services Post-Brexit29:55 Investment Migration and Financial Planning32:15 Documentation Challenges and Government Backlogs34:34 Housing and Accommodation Considerations39:13 Understanding Costs of Living Abroad46:02 Cultural Adaptation and Emotional Challenges51:06 Family Dynamics and Caregiving in Emigration48:23 Seeking Professional Guidance for EmigrationIf you want to know more about the services of Sable International, their website is www.sableinternational.com. All the services and contact details are available on the website.Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

Imagine being a young aircraft engineer in the 1980’s in South Africa who goes to Russia to work on a top secret  military project.In this episode, I talk to  Kobus De Villiers, who shares his journey from South Africa to Canada. Kobus tells us about his experiences  in aerospace engineering, and the secret project to build the MIG-29 engine into the South African Airforce’s Mirage and Cheetah aircraft.Kobus has written 5 books and numerous articles, We discuss the challenges of emigration, the cultural adjustments in Canada, and his passion for writing, including his published works. He reflects on his life choices, the importance of commitment in emigration, and offers advice for those considering leaving South Africa.It was a fascinating discussion with a man who has great passion for his work, his family and his writing and has lived an amazing life.Kobus De Villiers: “my morals and my values are just not going to allow me to go there..” 00:00 Introduction to The Relocated South African Podcast02:35 Kobus De Villiers: Journey from South Africa to Canada05:03 Career in Aerospace Engineering and Military Projects07:38 Collaboration with Russian Engineers on Military Aircraft10:06 Transition to Life in Canada and New Opportunities12:37 Challenges and Experiences in the Aerospace Industry15:01 Family Life and Dual Citizenship17:25 Writing Journey and Publishing Books27:26 Writing and Personal Growth33:34 Exploring the Publishing World41:32 Reflections on Life Choices and emigration48:21 Advice for Potential ImmigrantsKobus De Villiers’ books are available on Amazon both in hard copy and e books and at Kobus de Villiers Archives | Malherbe UitgewersFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

Imagine moving to the UK and building a successful life and career but after more than 20 years deciding to go back to South Africa. In this episode, I chat to Wolf Dette, the owner of Wolfies Bar in London, who shares his journey from South Africa to the UK and back. Wolf discusses his early life, ambitions in finance and the challenges of running a business during COVID. He talks about the family’s decision to return to South Africa for family and community support. He also explores the world of NFT's and crypto investments, reflecting on the importance of resilience and cultural identity. I really enjoyed Wolf’s entrepreneurial spirit and his drive to provide what is best for his son’s health challenges. Wolf Dette: "the amount of growing up that you do when you go overseas and there is no one to help you. No parents no friends ..” Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Journey01:20 Early Life and Ambitions04:29 Transition to the UK and Career Development05:47 The Birth of little Wolf08:21 A big UK tax bill09:33 First Bitcoin purchase16:30 Success in the UK21:23 Community and Support Systems23:20 Reflections on Safety and Crime25:20 Cultural Identity and Resilience28:00 Healthcare and Family Considerations32:33 Crime in the UK39:00 Things change when you emigrate and grow up Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

Have you ever thought about the challenges of selling everything to be ready to emigrate and then Covid arrived?In this episode, I speak to Hettie Meyer who relocated to Wellsford, New Zealand from the East Rand in South Africa. We talk about the family’s  journey from South Africa, the challenges of moving, and the differences in lifestyle, culture, and healthcare in New Zealand.I really enjoyed hearing about Hettie’s experiences with moving, childcare and the importance of maintaining connections with loved ones back home. For me the conversation highlights the emotional aspects of emigration, the adjustments required, and the freedom and safety that come with living in New Zealand.If emigration is on your horison you will find Hettie’s advice very useful."Don't bring your furniture."-Hettie MeyerChapters00:00 Introduction to the Journey02:46 Life in Wellsford, New Zealand05:45 The Decision to Move08:48 Challenges of Relocation11:51 Family and Childcare in New Zealand14:46 Cultural Differences and Community17:30 Healthcare and Safety20:32 Maintaining Family Connections23:33 Reflections on South Africa26:34 Food and Lifestyle Differences29:08 Advice for Potential emigrantsFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

Do we sometimes neglect the feelings of parents who stay behind when their children decide to emigrate. In this conversation, I speak with Rene Koekemoer, a South African mother who has two daughters who live abroad. We discuss the emotional journey of being a parent left behind, the sacrifices made by both parents and children, and the impact of distance on family dynamics. Rene shares her experiences of coping with separation, the importance of support systems, and the unconditional love that drives parents to want the best fortheir children, even when it means living far apart. The discussion with Rene left me with a clear understanding of the emotional rollercoaster of a parent with children abroad. Her journey clearly reflects the emotional complexities of being a parent left behind. Parents often suppress their emotions to remain strong for their children. Support systems for parents left behind are non-existent.  “I will never judge them."- René Koekemoer  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Journey of Immigration02:44 Life as a Parent Left Behind05:51 Navigating Emotions of Separation08:47 Understanding the Decision to Leave11:54 The Impact of Distance on Family Dynamics14:47 The Loss of Family Connections17:32 Coping with the Emotions of Departure20:38 The Role of Support Systems23:23 Finding Positivity in Separation26:34 Advice for Parents of Immigrants29:27 The Unconditional Love ofParents Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected]

Have you ever wondered what it’s like to face major life challenges far away from the familiar comforts of home and family? Or how it feels to build a new identity and raise a family abroad, without the built-in support systems so many of us take for granted?In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Ruth Prinsloo, whose story takes us from her childhood in Boksburg, to a life spread across continents. Ruth has not only navigated the practical and emotional realities of relocating -moving through France, Japan, and now the Netherlands - but has also beat cancer, rebuilt her sense of self, and raised a family in a foreign land, all while being far from her closest relatives.Interviewing Ruth left a deep impression on me. She speaks with such honesty about the difficulties of coping with illness when your family is thousands of kilometres away, the challenge of forming your own identity in a new country, and the bittersweet emotions involved in seeing your children create their own connections with South Africa from afar.If you’re interested in the real, sometimes raw experience of carving out a life abroad - especially when it comes to family, health, and finding your place in the world - you won’t want to miss Ruth’s moving and insightful story.“To be able to let go of my idea of how I thought it would work out and just simply take it as it comes.” - Ruth Prinsloo00:00 Introduction05:21 An out-of-the-blue opportunity in Japan09:15 How she ended up in Amsterdam11:20 Her journey with cancer14:00 Crafting as part of recovery16:35 Pursuing bronze sculpting21:04 Meeting a renowned sculptor26:43 Playing rugby in Holland31:40 SA vs European perspective35:06 Coping with fear and trauma40:38 Looking forward, not backwards44:53 She experienced a medical miracleResourcesJoin ‘South Africans currently LIVING abroad’ on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salivingabroad/Find your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever felt that your voice was being stifled, or wondered what it would be like to leave everything behind just so you could tell the truth? What would drive a journalist to walk away from their homeland - not out of adventure, but because they could no longer breathe under the weight of censorship?In this episode, I have the privilege of speaking with Johan Allers, a man whose work on local television and radio was a familiar part of my own childhood. Johan’s career saw him reporting on some of the most important and difficult moments in our country’s history, but it was the growing pressure to toe the official line - and the inability to report freely and honestly - that eventually pushed him to leave South Africa.Interviewing Johan was a powerful reminder of just how personal the choice to relocate can be. For Johan, it wasn’t just about career ambition or curiosity about life overseas; it was fundamentally about integrity, and the need to tell real stories without interference and fear. His reflections on those final years in South Africa, the moments when he realised he could not be the kind of journalist he aspired to be, really struck a chord with me.Whether you’re thinking about moving abroad, facing similar professional crossroads, or simply interested in the stories behind South Africa’s media past, I hope you’ll find Johan’s journey as compelling and honest as I did.“I actually became for the first time, truly confronted with the realities of South Africa as it was seen [through] the eyes of the Europeans at that time.” - Johan Allers00:00 Introduction05:14 Award-winning producer09:16 Early career ambitions11:50 Being a journalist during apartheid14:24 Media manipulation in South Africa20:15 Connections to the liberation movement22:25 Meeting Kofi Annan25:14 Chance encounter with Muhammad Ali30:19 Moving to Amsterdam33:26 Travelling Europe for TV38:10 His views on the Afrikaans refugees in the U.S41:46 Longing for home44:04 The essence of SAResourcesWatch Johan’s YouTube videos, ‘AllesAfrikaans (Beyond the Borders)’: https://www.youtube.com/@JohanAllersTune in to Johan’s weekly show, ‘Pareltjes uit Amsterdam’ on Litnet: https://www.litnet.co.za/author/johan-allersFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it really takes to pack up your life and move overseas - not just physically, but mentally as well? What does it mean to fully commit to a new country, instead of keeping one foot in the place you came from?In this episode, I talk to Norman and Chantal van Wyk, the first couple I’ve interviewed who made the move from South Africa to Norway. What struck me most about our conversation was how determined they were, right from the start, to go all in. They didn’t leave with a safety net or a backup plan to return home. Instead, they put all their energy into starting over and truly making Norway their new home.I really enjoyed speaking to them. Their honesty about the ups and downs of committing fully to life in another country really resonated with me. If you’ve ever wondered about what it means to let go of your old life and embrace a new one wholeheartedly, I think you’ll find their story both inspiring and relatable.“We need to make Norwegian friends. We can't just stay in this South African bubble. Although we're very appreciative of them.” - Norman van Wyk00:00 Introduction06:25 Seeking safety abroad08:49 Life in the countryside11:59 Serendipitous Scandinavian job offer13:52 Finding the right house18:18 Aligning their mindsets was key22:34 Adapting to life in a foreign country27:58 Applying for a visa 35:24 Breaking barriers with locals37:57 Yearning for familiar connections42:14 Limpet the cat went missing in AmsterdamFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it’s really like to pack up your life in South Africa and start over in a place as far away as New Zealand? What makes someone leave everything familiar behind and begin again, especially when safety and a better future for their family are at stake?In this episode, I chat to Dr. Kobus Du Plooy, a clinical psychologist who took the leap from Pretoria to Otago, New Zealand with his wife, right in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic. We talk about the tough decisions that led up to their move, including the safety concerns that played a big part, Kobus’s career journey, adjusting to a new country, and how starting over brings both challenges and unexpected joys.I really enjoyed this conversation with Kobus. He was such a down-to-earth guest, and I appreciated how open he was about the emotional side of relocating - from leaving family behind, to facing loneliness, to eventually finding their feet and building a new life. I found it especially moving to hear how he and his wife support each other and the practical advice he had for others considering a similar move.If you’re thinking of moving abroad, or you're just curious about life in New Zealand as a South African, I think you’ll find Kobus’s story both relatable and inspiring.“When I speak to a lot of South Africans here, they said had their circumstances been different, they wouldn't have wanted to make this move.” - Kobus Du Plooy00:00 Introduction05:58 Making the move mid-pandemic10:03 Prioritising family safety15:48 Balancing familiarity and change abroad20:05 Overcoming reluctance to socialise27:57 “It’s not for sissies”31:11 Life isn’t always fair34:43 Navigating change for the sake of opportunity38:20 Teaching our kids to have manners41:38 What he would have done differentlyFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

In May 2025, the US welcomed its first batch of white Afrikaans South Africans as part of its divisive Refugee Admissions Program. Some people are saying that they will be back, while others don’t even think they should have been accepted in the first place - it’s been dominating the headlines for months and today’s guest has become somewhat of a voice for the programme’s participants.Andrea Shea is a wife, mother, and passionate activist for South Africans living in the United States. Andrea shares her journey of relocating from South Africa after her family won the diversity visa lottery, after many years of trying. We talk about everything from settling in Florida, cultural adjustments, and raising a family in a new country, to her activism in support of South Africans seeking a "safer and brighter future".My discussion with Andrea was a truly eye-opening experience. Her honesty about the challenges of leaving South Africa, the realities of moving to the US, and her tireless work supporting others really struck a chord with me. I left our conversation feeling inspired by her resilience and her unwavering commitment to help fellow South Africans navigate these uncertain paths.If you’re considering relocation, wanting to know more about the refugee programme to the US, or simply curious about what life is like after such a big move, this episode has plenty of insights and practical advice you won’t want to miss.“I think people have it in their head that [if] you're a refugee, there's kind of like a stigma behind it. But no one I've known that has gone over on the programme has been stigmatised.” - Andrea Shea00:00 Introduction07:18 Visiting South Africa12:19 US-SA relations14:50 South African politics and the race debate18:22 Is change imminent?19:35 Addressing poverty23:56 Chaotic start to refugee programme27:20 Relocating for children’s future31:37 Work visa vs. refugee programme32:32 Misconceptions about being a US citizen38:35 Embracing local culture abroad ResourcesContact Andrea via email: [email protected] her on X: https://x.com/andrea_spookFind your digital home with fellow Relocated South Africans around the world. Visit https://therelocatedsouthafrican.com and connect with Jan at [email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

To stay, or not to stay? Relocating overseas is one of the biggest, toughest decisions that one can make. You have to consider your reasons for it, look at the pros versus the cons, and weigh up all of the things you gain (and give up) when making that move.Relocating from South Africa is not always easy. And today I'd like to share my own experience of going through that exact process.In this episode, I'll be reflecting on the many insights and lessons learned from both my personal journey and from 24 previous conversations with other South Africans who have relocated. I'll talk about what makes people happy in South Africa, and what happens when those things start to disappear. Whether it's concerns about physical safety, job opportunities, or wanting a better education for your children, I'll cover the main reasons people find themselves seriously considering a move overseas.I'll also speak honestly about the difficult parts - like missing family, the challenges of starting from scratch in a new country, and the grief that can come with breaking up close-knit communities. But it's not all negative! I'll share the practical things to think about before relocating, the joy of discovering new freedoms and opportunities, and why, after everything, my wife and I are settled and happy with the decision we made.If you're thinking about relocating abroad, or just want to know what really goes through a person's mind before, during, and after such a big move, I hope you'll find some value in this episode.“Sometimes it's hard to make the sacrifice now, but five years down the line, you look back and you'll say, wow, I did the right thing.” - Jan Hugo00:00 Introduction06:09 Essentials to consider pre-relocation09:09 Opportunities abroad11:07 Challenges of family separation14:04 Making an aligned decision19:04 Reflecting on leaving SAIf you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:[email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

From being born in South Africa, to moving to Canada as a teenager, and then back to South Africa (this time as an adult), today's guest has been on quite the journey!Bronwyn Rodrigues is a mother, entrepreneur, and content creator who left South Africa at 15-years-old to start a new life in Canada - only to return home 23 years later. Bronwyn opened up about her reasons for relocating, the challenges and realities of life in Canada, and what ultimately brought her back home, with her young son.Recounting her experience of navigating Canada’s healthcare and education systems, Bronwyn shared how local doctors told her she would “never be able to have children” and what it felt like to realise there was no place for her child in school as someone with special needs. It was fascinating speaking to her, as she shared the difficult moments of navigating public systems in a foreign country and the ups and downs of resettling in South Africa. I think her story offers lots of relatable moments - whether you’re considering a move abroad, thinking about returning home, or just looking for inspiration from someone who’s faced tough choices and kept moving forward.“I could not imagine how I was going to have a special needs child in that country.” - Bronwyn Rodrigues00:00 Introduction06:22 Mixing with SA expats in Canada07:19 From endometriosis to falling pregnant09:29 A long and difficult labour11:22 Seeking help in the US13:53 Returning to SA18:12 Multiple businesses to support son’s medical needs 18:54 Feeling like she doesn’t belong25:08 Virtual tour business27:57 Commitment to local progress30:41 Corruption and safety concerns33:16 Navigating SA social dynamics39:05 Overcoming depression in Canada45:27 “Stay and appreciate your country”48:05 Holidaying in Cape TownResourcesDiscover Alpha Pro Virtual Tours: https://alphaprovirtualtours.co.za/Follow along with Bronwyn’s journey on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bronwyn_and_dylanIf you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:[email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it takes to pick up your entire life and move it - all five family members, ten suitcases, and countless memories - halfway across the world? What does it really feel like to leave everything you know for the “land of opportunity”, and face the wild adventure of starting over?In this episode, I chat to Kirsten Halcrow, who - along with her husband Sheldon and their children Cassidy, Keenan, and Chase - made the life-changing move from Johannesburg to Florida, USA. Their story started with a family vote after Sheldon was offered the chance to spearhead a new division of his company in the USA. From there, it was a two-year rollercoaster of visa hurdles, emotional goodbyes, selling almost everything, and finally landing in their new American life, nervous yet excited.I loved hearing Kirsten’s honest take on the all-too-familiar confusion of driving on the right side of the road, wrestling with Fahrenheit and pounds, and building a credit score from scratch - despite decades of being responsible adults in South Africa. Through the chaos, frustrations, and sheer hilarity of American life, the Halcrow family have shown true resilience and found their place, even as they miss those left behind.Kirsten’s experiences led her to create www.emigrate2usa.co.za - a fantastic resource that offers trustworthy guidance for South Africans considering a move to the USA. It’s a platform shaped by their hands-on knowledge and committed to helping others demystify the process, from bureaucracy to cultural quirks.“The problem with the US is there's not that many routes to entry. It's not a, you know, it's not, let me just get a job and a work visa.” - Kirsten Halcrow00:00 Introduction04:09 Halcrow family moves abroad 08:45 Navigating new beginnings09:40 Guiding newcomers through relocation challenges15:14 Adjusting to expensive cleaning costs17:41 $25,000 to have her daughter’s tonsils out20:26 Creating a second family abroad 24:42 “Did we abandon our roots?”27:55 The Lekker Network31:41 Relocating requires unity35:19 It’s a journey, an adventureResourcesReach out to Emigrate2USA: https://emigrate2usa.co.za/Join the Emigrate2USA Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/Emigrate2USA.co.za/Check out the Lekker Network: https://thelekkernetwork.com/If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:[email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

What makes someone decide to leave South Africa after thirty years and start again overseas? Is it crime, opportunity for kids, or maybe just a change in family circumstances? These are questions I explored in my latest chat with Steve Ayres, who moved from South Africa back to the UK after decades of building a life in Johannesburg.In this episode, you’ll hear Steve’s honest take on what drove his family’s decision to relocate and what it’s really like being a South African abroad - even if, technically, he’s English by birth! I really enjoyed talking to Steve. His positive attitude towards South Africa, as well as his practical reflections on life in both countries, gave me a lot to think about. I hope you find Steve’s story as relatable and inspiring as I did.Whether you’re considering relocating or just curious about other South Africans’ journeys, there’s something for you here.“Building a life in the world's most beautiful country, which you've got to think it is really there, such an air of optimism and it… really felt like this was the best place on the planet.” - Steve Ayres00:00 Introduction04:12 His journey to SA09:35 Longing for holidays in SA12:36 What their family misses most14:41 Connecting across continents19:55 Global political leadership23:17 Remote work experience pre-pandemic26:53 SA vs England in sports28:22 “Dog-earned ID”If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:[email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

From a job opportunity to seeking safety - these are just two of the many reasons someone might decide to pack up their life in South Africa and move all the way to North Dakota, USA. But what’s it really like to swap small-town life under African skies for snowy winters in rural America?In this episode, I chatted to Sonéll Van Niekerk, who made that exact journey with her family in 2022. Sonéll shares how a professional opportunity opened the door to a new life abroad, what it was like to adapt to icy winters, and the challenges of leaving loved ones behind. We touch on making new friends, building community through faith and volunteering, and how her family have navigated these big changes together.Sonéll is a faith-based educator and content creator, who has built a community online sharing Bible teaching videos on Instagram, Facebook and TikTok. She is active in her local church, and fosters both community integration and support among South African expatriates.I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation – Sonéll’s positive outlook were truly inspiring. Her story offers first-hand advice and honest insight into the realities of relocating from South Africa, all while holding onto hope and building a better future.“We have a slogan in our family... we should always stick together because we only have each other.” - Sonéll Van Niekerk00:00 Introduction06:10 Adjusting to icy winters09:56 Her journey as a faith educator11:19 Embracing community as an immigrant16:01 Discovering a new professional role17:39 Missing family22:33 A family’s decision to leave24:33 Moving to the States29:22 SA refugee programmeConnect with Sonéll for her faith-based content on:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sonell.vanniekerk/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sonell_vnTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sonell87 If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:[email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever thought about how stressful it might be to leave your home country and start again somewhere new? Or wondered if there are ways to really cope with all the pressures and changes that come with relocating?In this episode, I chat with Marijke Bruins, a South African-born psychologist now living and working in the Netherlands, about how to manage the stress of moving abroad. We dive into all the real-life challenges - like the shock of leaving behind your support system, language barriers, missing home, dealing with loneliness, and adapting to a new culture. Marijke shares her own experience of moving to Amsterdam and talks honestly about the emotional hurdles, from anxiety and adjustment issues to doubts and the importance of having a support network.Talking to Marijke was truly eye-opening for me. Her mix of personal anecdotes and professional advice gave me a much better understanding of what it really takes to settle in a new country, both mentally and emotionally. If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the idea or the reality of relocation, I think you’ll find Marijke’s advice helpful and reassuring, just as I did.“No matter what the reasons or opportunities are, there will be times of difficulty and feelings of loss and trauma.” - Marijke Bruins00:00 Introduction03:45 Mental health care abroad07:52 Navigating relocation stress11:13:16 Younger vs older expats’ challenges14:51 Struggling to settle in20:14 Mixed emotions about leaving SA24:38 Role of psychotherapy in relocating27:34 Life abroad is expensive 29:59 Advice for moving overseas31:47 Exploring Europe33:38 Advice for anyone going through a tough timeResourcesConnect with Marijke about dealing with the stress of relocating: https://www.marijkebruinspsychotherapy.com/If you want to connect with us or share your own story, please contact us on:[email protected] podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

What would make a family uproot their lives in beautiful Somerset West and move all the way to the Netherlands? Is it career, safety, or the promise of a better future for their children? Or perhaps all three. In this episode, I chat to Bradley and Abigail du Toit, a couple who made exactly that leap from South Africa to Europe with their family. Bradley, an old cycling buddy of mine, shares how his career as an electrical engineer opened doors abroad, while Abigail talks candidly about the joys and struggles that come with starting again in a new country.Hearing their story was deeply relatable; I really appreciated how they shared all about the difficult parts, especially how much they miss family and the practical challenges of settling into Dutch life. I think many listeners will see their own questions and doubts reflected in this conversation.“Open those doors. Don't be afraid. You never know. You just never know.” - Bradley du Toit00:00 Introduction06:49 Making the move abroad for their kids10:01 How their kids are coping11:44 Missing family in SA14:15 Building a community at church17:45 Wanting the best of both worlds20:53 Justifying their decision to move25:04 Opportunity to better their lives26:14 Funny anecdotes28:20 His advice for relocatingThis podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what drives someone to leave behind a comfortable life in South Africa and start over in a completely new country? Or what it really takes to rebuild everything from scratch - career, family life, even community - when you move abroad?In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Zelda Botha, who left South Africa nearly thirty years ago for a new life in the United States. Zelda and her husband were both full-time pastors, living a stable and successful life before feeling a strong calling to move. They were seeking fairness and equality, which they found abroad. I was truly inspired by Zelda’s openness as she walked me through the many challenges their family faced, from having to start over with practically nothing, to juggling multiple jobs so that their children could have the best opportunities possible.I really enjoyed my conversation with Zelda. Her determination and faith, as well as her candid accounts of embracing change and working incredibly hard, were deeply moving. She didn’t shy away from sharing just how tough moving overseas can be, or what it means to build a new life from the ground up. I found her story to be not only inspirational but also a helpful reality check for anyone considering the same journey.“You have to have the attitude of the heart to become successful.” - Zelda Botha00:00 Introduction05:18 Leaving a pre-democratic country07:53 Being a pastor in SA11:29 Faith vs finances18:16 The spiritual side of social media20:13 Creating TikToks for South Africans25:00 Career adjustment struggles30:22 Affordable medical care33:51 Balancing work, family and homeschooling37:03 Embracing opportunity40:23 Working in retail49:01 Regret over language choices50:17 Red tape and logistics 56:38 Willing to help others move abroadThis podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever thought about taking your studies international? What about starting out a new business venture abroad? What challenges and opportunities might arise, and how do you overcome them?In this episode, I chat to Kyle du Toit, who left South Africa to pursue his studies in Budapest, Hungary, before later working in Austria and eventually returning to Hungary to try his hand at entrepreneurship. I really enjoyed hearing Kyle’s story, because he’s so obviously adventurous and open-minded. He wasn’t afraid to take risks and try new things. It was inspiring to learn how he navigated language barriers, adapted to new cultures, and has managed to stay connected with family and friends back home.If you’re considering a future abroad, or just want to hear a relatable story about life after leaving South Africa, I think you’ll really enjoy this episode.“I wanted to move abroad just to spread my wings.” - Kyle du Toit00:00 Introduction04:32 An entrepreneurial mindset07:05 Studying at an international university 09:21 Overcoming the language barrier14:45 Work experience abroad17:11 Impression of SA nowadays19:33 What he misses most about SA21:30 Reflecting on making mistakes 23:52 Advice for moving abroad25:01 Favourite things about BudapestThis podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it’s really like to uproot your whole life and move your family to a small island in the middle of the Irish Sea? Or what would make someone leave the warmth and familiarity of South Africa for a place where summer might only last a few days?In this episode, I chat with Alicia and Silvano Pizzocaro, a South African couple who decided to search for a safer environment and better future for their children, and chose the Isle of Man as their new home. We talk about everything from the notorious weather and the world-famous TT motorbike race, to what it really means to feel settled and build a new sense of community far from home.I truly enjoyed hearing Alicia and Silvano’s story. Their honesty about the ups and downs of life abroad, as well as the humour in their day-to-day experiences – like walking home at 2am with a pizza in hand, something they’d never do in South Africa – was inspiring and relatable. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed our conversation.“There is a better life out there than what South Africa has to offer.” - Alica Pizzocaro00:00 Introduction02:15 Experiencing the annual TT races05:38 When and why they left SA07:22 Lockdown on the Isle of Man11:21 Their daughter was an alien14:05 Visiting SA16:31 Finding friends and community abroad20:49 Feeling isolated22:27 Sharing funny stories 24:02 Considering safety and loadshedding26:01 Settling into their new life27:41 Advice for anyone emigratingThis podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

What drives someone to leave behind the only home they've ever known? Is it crime, corruption, or simply searching for a better future for your child? Perhaps it’s all of these. In this episode, I interview Martin Labuschagne, who made the big move from Pretoria, South Africa, to the UK with his wife and young son in 2019. Martin’s story stood out to me because, like myself, he made the decision to emigrate later in life, at the age of 48. We talk about what it's like to start over at an older age, the challenges of red tape, and the emotional toll of leaving family and friends behind.Speaking to Martin was a real eye-opener. I felt a genuine connection with his story, especially his honesty about the difficulties, sacrifices, and the strong sense of responsibility he feels as a parent. His insights about integrating with a new community, dealing with practical hurdles, and the emotional side of moving abroad really resonated with me.If you’re considering relocating or are interested in how others navigate this journey, I’m sure you’ll find Martin’s story as compelling and relatable as I did.“If you can go, go in your 20s or in your 30s, go as soon as you can so you can start making a life there earlier.” - Martin Labuschagne00:00 Introduction03:32 Rushing to relocate pre-Brexit05:50 Proving their relationship was real10:25 Immigrate early15:52 Moving to the UK is expensive 18:58 Would they ever go back?22:40 Giving away his beloved books25:06 Writing from the heart27:16 Feeling numb when they left SA29:45 Advice for anyone thinking of leavingResourcesRead Martin’s original article about emigrating from South Africa, published by Netwerk24: https://www.netwerk24.com/netwerk24/stemme/menings/martin-labuschagne-teenoor-britse-jeugdiges-is-kinders-in-sa-nogal-soet-20250618 This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it really feels like to leave South Africa behind, or why some people choose to seek opportunities elsewhere? Is it about following your ambitions, looking for safety, or simply searching for a different way of life?In this episode, I’m joined by Khaya Dlanga - a South African author, marketing executive, and media personality who has achieved so much both at home and abroad. Khaya might be best known for his storytelling and books, but today we dive deep into the emotional side of what it means to leave South Africa: what it means to miss your family, how to cope with grief when you’re far from loved ones, and why building community is so important wherever you find yourself in the world.Having read Khaya’s latest book, 'Life Is Like That Sometimes', I felt a real connection to his stories about family, loss, and finding belonging. It was both moving and uplifting to talk honestly about the sacrifices, hopes, and challenges that come with relocating, and why, even in the darkest of times, we can still “glow in the dark”.So if you’re thinking of moving abroad, or you’re already living far from home and missing those everyday South African moments, I hope you’ll find this episode both comforting and inspiring.“Depending on what drove you overseas, your attitude will be different depending on whether there's a pull factor or a push factor.” - Khaya Dlanga00:00 Introduction05:15 YouTube, a happy accident07:05 Trevor Noah is a global citizen13:35 Pull vs push factor 15:12 Unemployment in South Africa21:40 Writing got Khaya through grief30:21 Building your community34:45 Advice for staying in South Africa39:30 “Even in my darkest hour, I glow in the dark”ResourcesConnect with Khaya on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/khayadlangaFollow Khaya on X (Twitter): https://x.com/khayadlanga This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to pack up your life in South Africa and move somewhere completely different, all for the sake of a better future for your children? Or what goes through your mind when you look at your home country and start thinking about life twenty years from now?In this episode, I spoke with Margaux and Dian de Wet, a couple originally from Johannesburg who took the big leap to Cape Cod, Massachusetts in the United States. Their story takes us all the way from Joburg to Barcelona, where Dian studied for his MBA, before finally arriving in America, where they've built a new life for themselves and their twins.I really enjoyed talking with Margaux and Dian. My conversation with the de Wets was refreshing, and they were open about the tough decisions, sacrifices, and adjustments they had to make - the biggest one was leaving family behind, but there was also getting used to new cultures, and tackling the realities of visas and finding community in a foreign place. Their reflections on knowing your "why" and sticking together as a couple really hit home for me, and I think their perspective will resonate with anyone considering a similar change.“I didn't want to go and be poor in another country. That was a big thing for me.” - Dian de Wet00:00 Introduction04:09 Doing his MBA abroad 08:03 Creating a new future for their family15:24 Getting used to the cold17:53 Finding South African community in Cape Cod23:26 US Visa challenges30:22 Safety abroad vs South Africa32:47 Domestic help is expensive abroad 35:34 Advice for emigrantsResourcesJoin the South African Women in The USA & Canada Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1957344347867518/ This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com

You’ve probably seen South Africa in the news a lot lately - and not a lot of it is good news! How does the news impact the decision to leave, stay, or even return? And what is it that keeps people positive about South Africa, despite all the challenges that make headlines?In this episode, I had the privilege of sitting down with Paul Harris, a well-known South African entrepreneur, businessman, and one of the founders of Rand Merchant Bank - and my former boss, I might add! With so much negativity and noise in the media about South Africa, often from those who have left, I wanted to get Paul’s perspective on why he still feels so strongly about the country, and why it's important to report good news too.Chatting with Paul was a refreshing experience, mainly because of his ongoing optimism about South Africa, even when times are tough. Our conversation helped me reflect on my own journey and the reasons behind deciding to move abroad. It also reminded me why, despite having left, I’ll always love my country! Hopefully, our discussion can help others think more deeply about what it really means to stay or leave, and how much our attitude and actions can impact our future - no matter where we are in the world.“I'm a proper South African and more South African than any Australian is Australian and any American is an American.” - Paul Harris00:00 Introduction05:33 South Africa's resilience over the years06:35 Being positive about South Africa11:12 “Would you live in the wilderness or would you live in a zoo?”16:09 South Africans are resourceful and aspirational21:56 Adapting to a new culture abroad27:38 Improving South Africa-US relations32:14 Navigating opinions on social mediaResourcesRead Paul’s original ‘message to a friend overseas’ on Biznewshere: https://www.biznews.com/sarenewal/2025/01/14/paul-harris-no-need-to-stress-about-sa This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:https://www.zapods.com