The Shift 5 Podcast

Last week, we started the Unmedicated Challenge by asking one simple—but powerful—question: Where are you right now? We focused on awareness, sensing the body, and resisting the urge to rush straight into fixing or forcing change.This week, we take the next step.In this episode, we introduce Step Two of the Shift and a core concept that explains why so many well-intended changes fail:In this episode, we explore:The difference between a want and a should (and why shoulds never work)The three levels of caring—and how to tell which one you’re inWhy pain can create awareness but still isn’t enough to drive lasting changeHow your body is always participating in your decisions (whether you acknowledge it or not)Real-life examples from relationships, health, work, caffeine use, sleep, movement, and motivationHow to identify the emotion you’re actually seeking—and recreate it in new contextsWhat it means to stop forcing change and start aligning with yourselfThis episode builds directly on our recent health episode (episode 43 and 44!) and shows why sustainable health (and growth in any area) can’t come from guilt, pressure, or discipline alone.The goal this week isn’t to force yourself to want something. It’s to discover what you already want, find the emotional drivers behind it, and let your body come along for the ride.📄 Free WorksheetsWe reference several worksheets throughout this episode to help you do the Want Match work step-by-step.If you’d like free access to these worksheets, just reach out to us and we’ll send them your way—no cost, no catch.🔗 Links & Resources:📩 Want the worksheets mentioned in these episodes?Email us → [email protected]🔥 Join the dojo and apply this work in real life → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznH📸 Follow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5

This minisode is a direct follow-up to the Health Challenge episode.If you haven’t listened to Ep 43 “Unmedicated Freedom: Applying the Shift 5 to Health, Awareness, and Radical Self-Ownership” yet, start there first—this conversation is meant to deepen and clarify that work.In this minisode, Chase and Carly open the floor to real voices inside the community as people process the health challenge out loud—asking honest questions, naming concerns, and discovering just how much awareness changes everything.You’ll hear how caffeine, supplements, sleep, food, exercise, and medication sneak into the “I’m not on anything” category—and why this phase isn’t about fixing or quitting, but seeing clearly without judgment.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why “I’m not on meds” often isn’t the full pictureHow caffeine, supplements, and sleep habits fit into the awareness phaseReal-time coaching around autoimmune medications and chronic illnessWhy the first step is never “get off”—it’s get honestThe danger of choosing too many health goals at onceWhy choosing one thing creates more change than trying to fix everythingHow awareness reduces guilt instead of increasing itParenting, picky kids, and food—without pressure or power strugglesWhy kids eat what you love, not what you lectureSleep as a foundational health lever (and why nothing changes yet)The four quadrants of knowledge—and why this week focuses on what you don’t know you don’t knowRunning, nutrition, caffeine, and the surprising role belief plays in physical performanceThe question that defines the next phase of the work:“What if you believed your body could do it?”🔗 Links & Resources:📩 Want the worksheets mentioned in these episodes?Email us → [email protected]🔥 Join the dojo and apply this work in real life → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznH📸 Follow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5

This is where the rubber meets the road.In this episode, Chase and Carly move from theory into application, kicking off the first real-world Shift 5 challenge: health.You’ll learn how to take the Shift 5 framework out of the classroom and into your daily life—through tangible challenges designed to increase awareness, reclaim agency, and create real freedom. This episode introduces the Unmedicated Challenge and three distinct health tracks, all rooted in compassion, curiosity, and radical self-ownership.This isn’t about judgment or perfection. It’s about learning where you are—so change becomes possible.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why awareness always comes before changeThe difference between learning theory and living the workWhy health is the foundation for freedom in every other area of lifeThe Unmedicated Challenge and what it actually means (and doesn’t mean)How medications and supplements replace natural body functions—and why understanding that mattersWhy shame shuts down growth and curiosity opens it upHow breathwork and cold exposure become tools for clarity, insight, and revelationThe daily “Sense Your Body” practice and reflection promptsHow small health shifts create more time, freedom, and flexibility in lifeA powerful cold-shower realization that reshaped how Chase and Carly think about time, money, and lifestyle designWhy inverted living and radical self-ownership unlock long-term freedom🧠 Important Note on Worksheets:Several worksheets and reflection prompts are referenced throughout this episode.If you’d like access to the worksheets mentioned, email us and we’ll help you get connected.🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions, worksheet access, or support → [email protected]

In this foundational episode of Tionatam, Chase Thornock shares the story that changed everything—his health, his marriage, his finances, and ultimately the creation of The Shift Five.From the outside, life looked perfect: a successful career, a young family, financial stability, and physical strength. But internally, Chase’s body was shutting down. After being diagnosed with severe Crohn’s disease, becoming bedridden, dependent on IV nutrition, and nearly dying from sepsis, he was faced with a stark reality:No one was coming to save him.What followed was a deep, personal journey into understanding the autonomic nervous system, chronic stress, inflammation, trauma, and the body’s innate ability to heal—when the right conditions are created.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why chronic stress leads to chronic inflammation and autoimmune diseaseHow the autonomic nervous system governs healing, digestion, hormones, immunity, and mental healthThe difference between fight-or-flight and rest-and-digest, and why so many of us are stuck in survival modeHow trauma and subconscious “bookmarks” keep us reliving the past in our bodiesWhy your nervous system may sabotage change—even when you want itHow breathwork and cold exposure retrain safety, resilience, and homeostasisWhy cortisol isn’t the enemy—and how learning to release it properly changed everythingThe science behind why anxiety, depression, autoimmune disease, and relational conflict share a common rootIf you’ve ever felt stuck in anxiety, illness, burnout, scarcity, or reactivity—and wondered why willpower isn’t enough—this episode lays the foundation for a completely different way forward.Healing isn’t about forcing change. It’s about teaching your body that it’s safe to heal.🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

What do you do when you’ve given everything… and it feels like nothing is coming back?In this When Shift Hits the Fan episode, we step into a raw, honest coaching conversation about money, faith, consecration, and scarcity—what happens when abundance used to feel real, but now feels completely out of reach.Our guest shares the lived experience of:Receiving resources with a deep sense of stewardship and consecrationWatching those resources disappear in service, community, and responsibilityHitting a season where money feels tight, fear feels loud, and hope feels fragileAnd then asking the question so many of us quietly carry:“What if abundance was real before… but isn’t anymore?”Inside this episode, we explore:Why scarcity is often an invitation to contract—but also an invitation to expandThe difference between forcing gratitude and honoring fear without letting it leadHow abundance begins in the body, not the bank accountWhy “nothing has gone wrong” can be the most stabilizing thought in moments of collapseHow to identify your next right step when the future feels overwhelmingWhy small, grounded actions (cleaning, planting, tending) can be powerful acts of trustHow holding a feeling for just 17 seconds can begin shifting momentum🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this episode of Tionatam, we dive into the fifth step of the Shift: Trimming the Sails—the art of making small, intentional course corrections from alignment instead of fear.Rather than changing circumstances to escape discomfort, we explore how to first feel the way we want to feel, then allow aligned action to emerge naturally. This conversation reframes decision-making around money, work, relationships, and life direction by putting emotion, belief, and agency back in the correct order.Key Concepts CoveredWhy emotion should come before circumstanceHow the Shift inverts the traditional “circumstances → feelings” modelThe biological cost of stress, scarcity, and dirty painThe difference between shiny-object syndrome and true alignmentLevels of creation (to me / by me / for me / through me / as me)Why invitations to contract pull us backward in agencyHow fear narrows choice—and expansion multiplies it🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this episode of Tionatam, we explore how relationships quietly shift from connection into resentment—and what actually brings them back.We break down the subtle thoughts and patterns that create contempt, why they feel justified in the moment, and how they slowly erode intimacy, safety, and trust.This conversation applies to romantic partnerships, parenting, family dynamics, friendships, and even your relationship with yourself.What We’ll DiscussInvitations to Contract (ITCs) in relationshipsEmotional responsibility vs. emotional presenceWhy keeping score kills intimacyThe difference between preference, control, and unconditional loveHow inside work changes relationships without forcing outcomes🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this When Shift Hits the Fan episode, we coach through a deeply relatable struggle: anxiety that doesn’t respond to logic, even when life is objectively safe.This conversation explores why anxiety isn’t a thinking problem—it’s a body-based experience, often rooted in inherited patterns and reinforced over time. And more importantly, how awareness and embodiment create a real pathway forward.What We Explore in This Episode• Anxiety defined clearly• Brain vs. body• Inherited anxiety and legacy• Step 1 of the Shift 5: Sense your body• Why describing sensations matters• Presence as regulation• Anxiety as a “reminder,” not a failure• Remembering what you want• Expansion vs. contraction• Trimming the sails• Cold exposure as a reset tool• Practicing ahead of time🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

Legacy isn’t just what we teach our children. It’s what our bodies, nervous systems, and beliefs silently pass on—generation after generation.In this episode, we explore legacy through a biological and relational lens, uncovering how trauma, safety, regulation, and connection shape what gets carried forward—and how awareness gives us the power to change it.This is an invitation to become the cycle-breaker in your family line.What We Cover in This Episode• Legacy beyond genetics• Epigenetics explained• Autonomic legacy.• Attachment and safety• Trauma redefined• Why some experiences become trauma and others don’t• Compassion for what you inherited• Becoming the transformational character• Rewiring the nervous system• The neurology of change• Dissociation vs. presence• Using discomfort as a teacher• Fear as information🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this When Shift Hits the Fan episode, we explore a deeply uncomfortable and very real relationship question:How do you love someone unconditionally without losing yourself?This conversation isn’t about labels, politics, or being “right.” It’s about agency, boundaries, nervous system regulation, and staying rooted in love—especially when preferences, values, or requests feel emotionally charged.What We Cover in This Episode• Preference vs. love• Agency goes both ways• Unconditional love ≠ self-abandonment• Boundaries as a form of health• Giving from love vs. obligation• Staying out of fight-or-flight• “I see you. I feel me.”• Wounded dynamics• Love as the center🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

In this episode, we’re breaking down relationships from the ground up—the way most of us were never taught to understand them.We explore the three foundational relationship states: dependence, independence, and interdependence, and why so many relationships struggle when codependence gets mistaken for closeness, unity, or unconditional love.What We Cover in This Episode• The relationship ladder• Why children must be dependent—and adults must grow out of it• The critical role of boundaries• Why many health issues mirror relationship issues• The relationship you can’t skip: you and your body• Masculine & feminine energy (sacred polarity)• Roles vs. enmeshment• The uncomfortable truth that frees relationships• Why fixing kills connection• Wounded masculine & wounded feminine patterns• Unconditional love with boundaries🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

In this minisode, we explore one of the most common (and disorienting) experiences inside real personal growth: Why discomfort can make you question your spirituality, your connection, and even your identity — and why that’s completely normal.A community member asks a powerful question: “Growth is so uncomfortable-- is my spirituality slipping, or is this what it's supposed to feel like?”Together, we walk through:💠 Time Dilation & the Chasm💠 Emotional “Reawakening”💠 Spirituality in Discomfort💠 Capacity vs. Potential💠 The Shift 5 in This Moment💠 Fatigue, Cold Exposure & Listening to Your Limits🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

This episode is a little different.Instead of staying mostly in principles and paradigm shifts, we’re pulling back the curtain on the actual financial HOWs behind our lifestyle: real estate, creative financing, and negotiation — with real numbers, real deals, and real discomfort.If you’ve ever wondered, “Okay, but how are you actually doing this?” …this is the episode where we show you.Chase walks through several properties they’ve purchased, how they structured the deals, how the rent and equity have changed over time, and why want match + surrender matter just as much as the spreadsheets.Important note: These are our hows, not prescriptions. Your hows and your miracles will look different. The point is to expand your sense of what’s possible, not to copy-paste our exact path.💡 In This Episode, You’ll Hear About:Why want match matters more than “good ideas” Without a true want match, the discomfort required for growth is usually unsustainable — especially in finances.Three real properties and what they’ve actually done financially:Entity structure & tax advantages (high-level):Creative finance tools you may have never considered:The Costa Rica biological preserve negotiation story:Location vs. property type specialization⚠️ Quick DisclaimerNothing in this episode is financial, tax, or legal advice. It’s a peek into our story and our hows. Always consult your own professionals and your own relationship with God as you choose your path.🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

In this minisode, we coach a young mom through a travel desire many families relate to: Would life be better, easier, or more meaningful with a camper van? But as always, the real question isn’t about the camper van at all. It’s about want, guilt, sacrifice, and the courage to surrender the how.This conversation goes deep into the heart of lifestyle design — identifying what you actually want, naming the emotions under the surface, and deciding whether the “expense” of a dream is aligned with the life you’re building.📍 In This Episode, We Explore:The real reason certain experiences call to us (hint: you’re chasing a feeling long before you’re chasing an object)How guilt shapes our desires Especially when we want something that affects a spouse or family dynamic.Why life is always “expensive”… but in different currencies Money, energy, time, identity, and courage.How to identify a true want match And why that matters more than figuring out “the right choice.”The role of surrender in lifestyle design Miracles don’t feel good in the moment — and that’s normal.How to make aligned sacrifices And why intentional sacrifices feel different than forced ones.The power of specificity when asking for what you want (Carly’s beautiful reminder: define the wants clearly and let yourself be surprised.)🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

Welcome to Tionatam! Today’s episode was recorded in the Dallas Airport after a 5AM flight delay, a missed connection, and a whole lot of built-in opportunities to practice surrender. As always, life gives the perfect metaphors when we’re willing to see them.This week, Chase and Carly share one of their most-requested topics: How do you actually travel as a family, stay connected, keep schooling and work flowing, and structure your life so that it feels free rather than chaotic?And yes… we talk Starlink, taxes, home design, residency hacks, and how to expand instead of contract when everything goes “wrong.”📍 In This EpisodeYou’ll learn:Why travel is one of the best laboratories for practicing surrender (especially when flights are delayed and plans crumble)The Starlink miracle story — how a broken dish became a better dish and how expansion leads to unexpected solutionsOur real travel HOWs: ~BYOI (Bring Your Own Internet) ~Sleep first, always ~Slow immersion vs. rushed vacations ~Building community wherever you land ~Living an inverted lifestyle to avoid crowds + save money ~Stacking rewards instead of increasing spendingNomad-friendly healthcare & why self-insurance works in parts of the worldThe connection between desire, agency, and designing a life that works for YOUR family. (Not ours. Not the world’s. Yours.)🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

The holidays are usually when we’re least aware… which also makes them the best time to practice awareness.In this Tionatam episode, Chase uses the holidays as a real-life “lab” for seeing your rules, your neurology, and your triggers around food, money, and family roles. From holiday treats and autoimmune healing to last-minute road trips and unplanned expenses, we walk through how to use the Shift 5 process to find your next aligned step—without needing to control the “how.”You’ll hear the “This Is Water” metaphor, an honest coaching moment about the cost of a Christmas road trip, and a breakdown of why learning to say no (and being willing to disappoint people) is often the doorway to better health, calmer holidays, and more authentic relationships.This episode is a practical guide to staying present in your body, clear on what you want, and open to miracles in the middle of holiday chaos.🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this minisode, we dive deep into one of the most common—and most emotionally charged—areas of family life: travel with extended family and the pressure we feel around it. This coaching session walks through how to untangle shoulds, uncover what you actually want, and discern the aligned next step without collapsing into people-pleasing or resistance.You’ll hear a live coaching moment around the stress of trips with in-laws, why preparing and recovering can feel overwhelming, and how to shift your experience by separating three key elements: ~What you genuinely want ~What you think you should want ~What you’re afraid others will feelWe explore the role of nervous-system responses, subconscious rulebooks, and the difference between pressure we feel and pressure anyone is actually placing on us. You’ll learn how to try on thoughts, bring your body into the conversation, and find the version of “vacation” (frequency, energy, boundaries) that aligns with your home, your rhythms, and your values.This minisode is a masterclass in choosing aligned action over reactive people-pleasing—especially in family dynamics where expectations, routines, and emotional history run deep.🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this episode of Tionatam, we use home and travel as a mirror for your inner world—and show how your body, house, and health are all speaking the same language.Chase and Carly unpack the “rule books” you inherited about how a home should look, feel, and function (hello, flat sheets, lighting battles, and antlers on the wall), and connect it to your body: why your circumstances don’t actually create your feelings, and how your interpretation does.You’ll hear how Carly’s research on home and motherhood revealed that square footage and clutter don’t directly create stress—our perception does. From there, we introduce the “Beam Me Up” Principle: the way matter (bodies, houses, stuff) and energy (feelings, beliefs, nervous system states) constantly beam back and forth to shape your health, home, and relationships.This is a conversation about putting things back in their proper place—so your home and body become aligned with the life you actually want to create.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why we start with health and the body before talking about home and travelHow “home” is actually three things: a physical place, a web of relationships, and a felt experienceFunny + real examples of inherited “home manuals” (bed-making, lights, décor, hunting trophies, and more)Carly’s master’s research on clutter, square footage, and why perception mediates how moms feel in their homesThe difference between house as matter and home as feeling—and how your brain bridges the twoHow your nervous system (especially the vagus nerve) responds to the energy of a home and to the people inside itWhy we say: your things are a reflection of your inner world, not the cause of itThe “Beam Me Up” Principle: using symbolism to move between physical reality and emotional experienceThe “dishes” example: how redefining what a sink full of dishes means can shift you from shame to connection or delightHow the same symbolism applies to the body: symptoms as invitations to connect, not punishmentsHow the Shift 5 method applies to it all!

In this powerful coaching minisode, we explore what it really means to surrender while staying open to creation.When we try to control how a miracle arrives, we close ourselves off from infinite possibilities. But when we release the “how,” trust our body’s signals, and take the next aligned step, life expands in ways we couldn’t have imagined.You’ll hear a real coaching moment about money, fear, and faith—and how learning to create space (literally, through the breath) invites miracles in every area of life.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why surrender isn’t passive—it’s the most active form of trustHow “dictating the miracle” blocks flow and creativityThe link between contraction, fear, and shallow breathingHow to find your next right step with peace and alignmentWhy it’s never really about the money (or anything else)—it’s about who you’re becoming🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this episode of Tionatam, we connect the dots between belief, biology, and behavior. We unpack the placebo effect (and why throwing it out of studies made us miss its power), explore the “Magnificent Matrix” for moving insights from subconscious → conscious, and show how clearly naming what you want lets you direct your body’s chemistry toward healing. Then we turn theory into practice with simple, repeatable tools.💡 What You’ll HearWhy “I want to be here for my family” isn’t enough—and how to name a you-centered health want that your body can act onThe placebo effect in plain language (including sham surgeries) and why provider and participant beliefs both matterA fresh frame: belief as energy that shapes physiology (not woo—watch what your nervous system does)The “Magnificent Matrix” (4 quadrants: know/ don’t know × conscious/ subconscious) and how to surface hidden driversTacit skills vs. head knowledge: why reading about change ≠ changing (and the practice that rewires neurology)Fight/flight/freeze, vagal nerve basics (ventral vs. dorsal), and the reset you can access todayThe breath pattern for in-the-moment regulation (two inhales, one long exhale)How clear wants + daily reps leverage placebo toward health, money, relationships—without the zero-sum trapWhere this plugs into the Shift 5: Sense Your Body → Honor What You Want → Intentionally Surrender → Fearlessly Expand → Trim the Sails🔗 Links & ResourcesJoin the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this powerful minisode, we walk through a live coaching moment that reveals how anger often protects a much younger, hurting part of us. When old beliefs—like “I should always be able to help”—collide with present-day realities, they trigger deep emotional echoes from our past.Through this session, we explore how shame hides beneath anger, how childhood patterns of responsibility for others’ emotions form, and what it means to listen to your body instead of solving it.This conversation beautifully illustrates the Tionatam principle that trauma isn’t what happens to us—it’s what happens inside us.💡 What You’ll Hear:How conflicting beliefs create emotional dissonance in daily lifeThe role of anger as a protector for exiled parts of selfHow childhood “shoulds” become subconscious rules that drive adult reactionsRecognizing the moment when shame first took rootUsing sensory awareness to locate emotion in the bodyThe difference between thinking about healing and feeling itUnderstanding the dorsal vagal “collapse” response and why your body uses it to surviveA reframe for healing: listening to the emotion instead of fixing it🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this heartfelt minisode, you’ll hear real-life stories and learn more about how surrender, peace, and support can exist even in moments. From there, we dive into health as a continuum (from illness to ever-greater capability), revisit ITCs—Invitations to Contract—and show you how to create an inner healing environment no matter what’s happening outside. You’ll learn practical ways to “feel first, then re-direct,” so your body becomes a trusted partner in both healing and high performance.💡 What You’ll HearA “crazy week” story: CPR, language barriers, and the surprising calm of true surrenderHealth as a continuum: why the work applies to both illness and ambitious goalsITCs (Invitations to Contract): common thoughts that shrink your capacity (and how to spot yours)The myth of the “perfect healing environment” and how to create one inside yourselfStep 1 (Feel) → Step 2 (Redirect) → Step 1 (Feel again): the cyclone that actually changes youPartnering with your body: why it sometimes says “no” and how to build trust with it“Stop looking at the rocks”: choosing what to place your attention on—nowRelationships & health: honoring your needs so you can show up for your people

This week inside Tionatam, we opened up the floor for live coaching around travel, money, home (and more!) and the emotional undercurrents that come with both. What started as a conversation about vacation styles turned into a masterclass in emotional awareness, relationship synergy, and surrendering the how.When we stop trying to fix circumstances—and start uncovering the emotions we’re chasing—everything changes. Whether it’s travel plans, finances, or the dream of a new home, this conversation shows how identifying a shared want match leads to freedom, connection, and creative solutions that actually feel good.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why financial conflict is often really about safety vs. freedomHow to create a “want match” with your spouse (and why it’s magic)Using emotional awareness to transform resentment into connectionWhy “pain unto awareness” leads to growth—but “pain unto suffering” doesn’tHow surrender opens space for miracles and peaceReal-life coaching moments on budgeting, dreaming, and learning to stay in want energy🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

In this episode of Tionatam, we revisit the Shift Sifter—a simple, soul-anchored tool to separate inherited rules and autopilot “shoulds” from what you actually want. We’ll apply it to travel, home, and overall lifestyle so you can make aligned choices that feel like you (not your Pinterest feed or in-law playbook).You’ll learn how to create a personalized phrase + two adjectives that instantly generate the feeling you want to create from—and why affirmations only work when you can feel them. Then we use your custom “sifter” to plan trips with less conflict by naming whether you’re vacationing, traveling, or visiting (they’re not the same!).💡 What You’ll HearWhy your default rules come from family, culture, and “how we’ve always done it”—and how to spot them as shouldsThe Shift Sifter: a 3-part exercise to tune into true wantsAffirmations that work: why felt emotion (not repetition) generates resultsTravel planner reframe: define the activity, frequency, and a fun prop to clarify what you actually want on a tripThe crucial difference between vacation, travel, and visiting—and how mixing them creates conflictReal-life examples How to “braid” your life with a chosen energy so execution matches intention🔗 Links & ResourcesJoin the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this When Shift Hits the Fan minisode, Chase walk a husband and father through a moment of real-life uncertainty — the kind that hits when you’re standing between who you’ve been and who you’re becoming.You’ll hear what it looks like to move from future worry into present peace, using the sensations of the body as the compass toward alignment.💡 What You’ll Hear:The difference between thinking your way forward vs feeling your way forwardHow anxiety is created when the brain tries to control the unknownA step-by-step process to regulate your body in real timeWhy “the next right step” always becomes clear when you return to connectionHow growth often disguises itself as retreat🌀 This episode is a masterclass in embodiment — learning to stay present, surrender control, and let the next step reveal itself.Join us inside Tionatam to practice this work and expand in every area of your life🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

In this episode, we apply the Shift 5 lens to financial health. You’ll see how inherited money rules shape today’s choices, why invitations to contract often show up right before (and after) miracles, and how to move through the five levels of creation so your finances start serving your life—not the other way around.This is a practical roadmap for aligning your money with your pure wants and building a sustainable portfolio that feels like living “retired now.”💡 What You’ll Hear:The Five Gears of Creation (Victim → Control → Awareness → Alignment → Co-Creation) and why presence & flow increase at each levelHow to spot an invitation to contract—and expand anyway so miracles can landInherited money beliefs vs. pure wants: and the feelings you actually desireA gentle reframe on trauma, nervous system safety, and why your body must lead the shift (breath & cold as memory reset)Examples of these Principles at play in real life!🔗 Links & Resources:Join Tionatam (dojo) and practice this work together → free trial available inside the communityFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this heart-centered minisode, Chase and Carly coach through a familiar crossroads—the moment when everything you want seems to be in conflict.Through gentle questioning and guided awareness, they help a guest move from confusion to calm clarity—anchored in the body, emotion, and trust.💡 What You’ll Hear:How to sense your body to find what you actually wantWhy your desires aren’t competing—they’re just asking to “play nice”How surrendering the how creates space for miraclesA powerful affirmation for aligning your wants with grace and harmonyWhat it means to live in “flow” instead of forceThis isn’t about choosing one dream over another.It’s about learning to hold your desires with open hands and let them work together in perfect harmony.🎧 Listen now and remember: your body knows what you want—it’s just waiting for you to listen.🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5

In this rich and relatable episode, Chase and Carly dive deep into one of the most universal parts of being human—relationships. From the way we load the dishwasher to the way we handle hurt, this conversation unpacks the invisible rules and shoulds that quietly run our homes, marriages, and friendships.If you’ve ever wondered why the smallest things trigger big emotions... If you feel like you’re constantly managing how others feel... If you’re ready to experience connection without losing yourself— this episode will hit home.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why “rules” like how to roll toothpaste can quietly sabotage relationshipsThe 3 foundational principles that bring freedom back into connectionHow your nervous system shapes the way you love and reactWhat “interdependence” really means (and why enmeshment feels like love—but isn’t)How to build relationships where both people stay wholeWhy curiosity is biologically incompatible with fight or flightThe surprising power of “want matching” and emotional ownershipThis isn’t just about communication—it’s about the deep biology and belief that make love last.🎧 Listen and learn how to reclaim ownership of your emotions, your wants, and your relationships—without needing anyone else to change first.🔗 Links & Resources: Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznH Follow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5

Sometimes the thing keeping us sick isn’t our body—it’s our fear. Fear of being wrong. Fear of trying again. Fear of what healing might actually ask of us.In this “When Shift Hits the Fan” session, Chase and Carly walk through a powerful real-time coaching moment with a woman who feels trapped in her health journey. Beneath her frustration lies something deeply human: a nervous system that’s trying to keep her safe by staying in the familiar.💡 In this episode:How your body “protects” you by repeating old pain patternsWhy fear often feels safer than disappointmentWhat it means to stop “looking at the rocks” in your healing journeyThe moment your body starts to shift—when you choose to feel instead of fightHow to move from what if I’m wrong to what if I’m ready🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

In this episode, Chase introduces the ARM Method—the Autoimmune Recovery Method built on breath work, cold exposure, and meditation—and explains how timing, physiology, and practice train your nervous system to heal.You’ll also learn how nutrition influences autoimmune disease, why food is more than fuel, and how to build a holistic relationship with what you eat that supports both body and spirit.💡 What You’ll Hear:The science behind breath work and why “the shift” mattersHow cold exposure activates healing through the vagus nerveWhy fight-or-flight isn’t the enemy—it’s about timingThe “platter model” of stress and how nutrition fits into itPractical swaps for sugar and gluten that make a differenceWhy meals are regulating, relational, and even spiritualHow to start small and avoid overwhelm on your nutrition journey🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected] or support → [email protected]

Show NotesIn this “When Shift Hits the Fan” minisode, we dive into one of the most common but least-talked-about triggers in family life: what happens inside of us when we get sick or our partner does—and everything suddenly feels heavier.You’ll hear a real-time coaching conversation about:🌿 Shifting from shame to self-compassion when you’re unwell🌀 The “loop” of Step 1 & 2 in The Shift 5 Framework—feeling what’s present and then redirecting your thoughts🧠 Why your “logical brain” isn’t actually logical when it’s fueled by dirty pain (shame, guilt, resentment)💛 How to sit with big sensations in your body (instead of white-knuckling through them) so they can transform—like the “monster under the bed” shrinking once you look at it🪢 Untangling the thread of “I can’t do this alone” and replacing it with liberating, believable thoughts like “I’m allowed to ask for help”This episode is a gentle but powerful walk-through of nervous-system regulation, thought-redirection, and self-compassion in action. You’ll also hear practical tools like body-doubling, duality practice, and naming sensations—so you can try them while you listen.If you’ve ever found yourself thinking “I don’t have time to be sick” or resenting your partner for resting while you keep going, this minisode is for you. It’s short, real, and packed with tools you can use right away to create healing environments inside yourself—even when circumstances don’t change. Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5

 When most people think about improving their finances, they look for the how—budgeting tricks, investment strategies, or debt payoff plans. But in this episode of Tionatam, Chase and Carly reveal why the real blocks around wealth often have little to do with money at all.✨ Inside this episode:Why finances, health, home, and relationships can’t be separatedHow subconscious family rules around money drive our emotions and choicesThe ARM Method (breath, cold, awareness) as a training ground for resilienceThe “dance floor” analogy: how your environment silently shapes your limitsThe difference between grinding for results and surrendering to miraclesWhy fear often is the sacrifice required for growth🔑 Key Takeaway: Financial freedom isn’t about following the perfect budget—it’s about breaking free from inherited rules, listening to your body, and surrendering the how to God. That’s where miracles happen.🔗 Links & Resources: Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

What do you do when your biggest dreams feel “irresponsible”? In this minisode, we dive into a raw coaching moment where fear, family expectations, and inherited “rulebooks” all push against the pull of a life that actually lights you up.This is the tug-of-war so many of us face: Do I cut my dreams down to size so they feel acceptable? Or do I expand into the very things that scare me—homesteads, travel, beauty, adventure—because they’re what make me come alive?💡 Inside this conversation:Why “responsibility” often means living inside someone else’s comfort zoneHow inherited beliefs around money, cars, parenting, or even chickens (!) can quietly shrink your visionThe moment fear whispers “contract” and how to expand anywayThe life-giving power of choosing thoughts that generate inspiration, beauty, and joy👉 If you’ve ever second-guessed a dream because it seemed too big, too different, or too “irresponsible,” this episode will remind you: you don’t have to know how to get there—you just have to remember why you love it.✨ Links & Resources:Learn more about The Shift 5 Framework → https://www.theshift5.comJoin the Tionatam community → https://www.tionatam.comFollow us on Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/theshift5_

Show NotesWelcome back to Tionatam! Today we’re unpacking the “why” behind autoimmune flare-ups through the lens of the autonomic nervous system—and how reconnection (to body, breath, and people) can change the trajectory. We’ll explore what pushes us into chronic fight-or-flight, why “adrenal fatigue” sets the stage for inflammatory cascades, and how practices like breathwork and cold exposure help rebuild your buffer. This isn’t just about health—these same triggers show up in relationships, finances, and everyday decision-making.In this episode, we cover:✨ Autonomic 101: Sympathetic (fight/flight) vs. parasympathetic (rest/digest) and how your body allocates resources.🧯 From Stress to Flare: How repeated adrenaline/cortisol dumps deplete reserves and prime the immune “warriors” (cytokines) that can lead to friendly fire.🧠 Bookmarks in the Nervous System: Why past experiences leave “triggers” that are mistimed or misplaced—and how connection prevents stress from becoming trauma.🧊 Breath & Cold as Reconnection: Using engineered stress (breath holds, cold exposure) to re-link brain and body, increase adaptability, and restore homeostasis.🧭 Criticality: The point where the system can’t adapt anymore—and why early awareness matters.💬 Emotions as Messages: Sensations → emotions → communication; when your body is heard, it wisely powers down the alarm.🧩 Internal Family Systems (IFS) Framework: Meet your Managers, Firefighters, and Exiles—and learn who’s driving the bus in charged moments.🫶 Radical Self-Compassion: Accessing a Higher Self perspective so growth doesn’t slide into shame or self-pity.🧪 Practical Next Steps: Start the breath-and-cold protocol in your course portal, track “when/where” triggers show up, and build your buffer before the next spike.If you’re navigating an autoimmune diagnosis—or noticing “blockers” in other areas of life—this conversation gives you a map: understand the trigger, reconnect to sensation, choose your response, and reclaim your resources.Links & Next Steps🔗 Join the Shift 5 Dojo: theshift5.com/dojo🔗 Follow on Instagram: instagram.com/theshift5🔗 Questions or support → [email protected] episode is educational and not medical advice. Always consult your licensed healthcare provider for personal care.

📍 In this minisode of When Shift Hits the Fan, we step into a coaching moment where guilt shows up in a surprising place: receiving something good. What happens when your body registers guilt, not joy, in the middle of luxury or abundance?Through guided body awareness and honest reflection, we uncover how guilt often acts as a protective shield—covering deeper beliefs like “I’m responsible for how other people feel” or “good people don’t have nice things.”💡 What You’ll Hear:How to sense your body and locate where emotions live (and what they look and feel like)Why guilt often masks deeper, inherited rules about worthiness and responsibilityThe “rulebook problem”: how unspoken expectations about being “good” create cycles of shameA practical reframing exercise that helps you separate your feelings from other people’s reactions👉 Whether it’s in your family, friendships, or work, this short conversation will help you recognize guilt for what it is: not a moral compass, but a signal pointing toward the beliefs you can choose to rewrite.✨ Links & Resources:Learn more about The Shift 5 Framework → https://www.theshift5.comJoin the Tionatam community → https://www.tionatam.comFollow us on Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/theshift5_

This conversation dives into Step 5 of The Shift 5—Trim the Sails—applied to relationships. We rethink “trust” through the lens of radical self-ownership: you’re responsible for your emotions, they’re responsible for theirs. From marriages and money to parenting and daily chores (yes, even the trash), we explore how to set clean boundaries, release control, and choose unconditional love without becoming enmeshed. Expect mind-bending reframes, practical examples, and gentle challenges that create real space—so connection, stewardship, and teamwork can actually work.💡 What You’ll HearWhy “trust” often disguises control—and how to redefine it as a chosen emotionRadical self-ownership in relationships: “I feel my feelings; you feel yours”The difference between predicting someone and trying to control themHow “earn my trust” can become a manipulation loop (and how to step out)Healthy boundaries vs. emotional enmeshment—what changes in practiceInterdependence as stewardship: “who holds the cards” and why it mattersThe “trash example”: reallocating roles without resentment or score-keepingReframing forgiveness when you can’t “be sinned against” emotionallyCreating space so loved ones (and kids) can step into responsibilityThe power of the choice point: acting from the emotion you want to feel, not from contractionHow these principles apply to marriage, friendships, community—and even your relationship with your body🔗 Links & Resources: Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this first When Shift Hits the Fan minisode, we step into a real coaching conversation with Pam, a volunteer leader in her church who oversees the children’s program. She’s wrestling with the tension between her vision of fun and love for the kids—and another leader whose serious, rigid style seems to be draining the joy out of the experience.It’s a classic moment where expectations and “rulebooks” don’t match, and the question becomes: How do you stay centered in love when someone else’s choices don’t align with yours?💡 What You’ll Hear:Why our “rulebooks” (the way we think things should be) often create more stress than the circumstance itselfHow your thoughts and feelings influence your experience—but never directly control someone else’sThe difference between stewardship and control, and how to lead with grace without being jerked around by others’ actionsA simple “ladder thought” practice to generate genuine love, even in moments of frustration👉 This episode is short, real, and packed with practical insight you can use in any leadership role—whether you’re guiding a team, serving in your community, or parenting at home.🔗 Links & Resources: Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

📝 Episode Show Notes: 📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly open up a conversation about travel, home, and the “optional” desires we often push to the side. Using real stories (like red-eye flights and dream vacations) as a springboard, they reveal how these discretionary desires are actually invitations into expansion—not indulgence.You’ll learn how to recognize when your focus has slipped into lack, why the same words can carry completely different energy, and how to shift from contraction into flow. Whether your dream is a ski pass, a trip abroad, or simply more space at home, this episode will help you step into the joy of pure want without the weight of “I can’t.”💡 What You’ll Hear:Why “optional” desires like travel and home design matter more than you thinkThe spectrum from deficit → baseline → expansion, and how to move toward growthHow the same sentence can point either left (lack) or right (expansion)Practical ways to notice the energetic shift when you talk about what you wantThe subtle invitations to contract—and how to reframe them as invitations to expand🔗 Links & Resources: Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

📍 In this episode, Chase and Carly introduce the Shift Sifter—a simple but powerful tool to help you separate what you truly want from the “shoulds” you’ve inherited from family, culture, and programming. You’ll learn how to use words, phrases, and values that light you up as a compass for living the life you were actually meant to live.This is more than affirmations—it’s about generating real emotion, rewiring old defaults, and fearlessly expanding into miracles by aligning with your authentic desires.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why “shoulds” reveal inherited programming, not true desiresHow to identify your past “hows” that keep shaping your choicesThe Shift Sifter process to clarify what really matters to youWhy words and phrases that light you up are more powerful than generic affirmationsPractical examples of creating your own custom words and emotional anchorsHow this process applies to your home, travel, and lifestyle designThe role of Step 4—Fearlessly Expand—in accessing more miraclesAn invitation to try the Shift Sifter and start creating your personal vocabulary of expansion🔗 Links & Resources: Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

In this episode, we dive into what we call Invitations to Contract—the sneaky thoughts and beliefs that pull us away from healing, growth, and expansion in our health. Whether you’re facing chronic illness, supporting a loved one who is suffering, or simply pushing toward new health goals, these invitations show up everywhere along the spectrum.You’ll hear how common phrases like “What if nothing I do works?” or “It’s up to me to keep my family healthy” actually drain your body’s energy and lower your vibration. We explore why your perfect “healing environment” isn’t really about circumstances, but about the beliefs you bring into them—and how learning to recognize and reframe these contracts is the key to true surrender, peace, and expansion.💡 What You’ll Hear:What “Invitations to Contract” (ITCs) are and why they matterHow health is a continuum—from disease to adaptability and capabilityCommon ITCs like “What if it won’t work for me?” and “I have to do this for my family”The heavy burden caregivers carry with thoughts like “It’s up to me to keep them alive”How guilt sneaks in when we realize we may have more control than we thoughtWhy “healing environments” are universal, and why they don’t depend on circumstancesThe real power behind healing: what you choose to believe about your situation🔗 Links & Resources: Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

📍 This week inside the Tionatam dojo, we explore one of the most life-changing concepts in both health and relationships: interdependence—and the boundaries that make it possible.From childhood codependence to adult burnout, Chase and Carly unpack how nervous system regulation, healthy separation, and spiritual responsibility shape everything from autoimmune disease to marriage, parenting, and purpose.If your body keeps breaking down…If your marriage feels tangled…If your “no” only comes when it’s too late…This episode is a Shift.💡 What You’ll Hear:The difference between dependence, independence, interdependence, and codependenceWhy autoimmune issues are often boundary diseasesHow your nervous system learns its safety from your caregiversWhat it actually means to “say no” (and why your body will do it for you if you don’t)A breakdown of communication diseases, like diabetesThe truth about sacred polarity and why masculine/feminine dynamics matter in healingThe spiritual invitation of sensing your body—as your closest relationship“You don’t just have a body. You’re in relationship with it. And it’s trying to tell you something.”

📍 This week in the dojo, we’re diving into relationships—the real kind. Marriage, parenting, family, friendship, self, even God.But we’re not talking communication tips and date night tricks. We’re talking about the unspoken thoughts that slowly drain your energy, tighten your chest, and make you wonder why the people you love most are the ones you fight with hardest.We call them “invitations to contract.”And once you start spotting them, everything shifts.💡 What You’ll Hear:The secret thoughts that make you feel powerless (and why they feel true)Why codependence masquerades as love—but feels awful in your bodyThe difference between expansive helping and contracted fixingHow resentment and score-keeping create contempt (and destroy connection)What your affect reveals about your nervous system and your relationshipsA gut-punch list of everyday thoughts that keep us stuck (get ready to feel seen)“We’ve used our agency of thinking to feel bad—and convinced ourselves it’s just reality.”🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

📍 In this first live dojo session from inside Tionatam, Chase and Carly go deep on a foundational Shift 5 truth:You don’t get rid of pain.You just learn to choose the pain that aligns with what you actually want.Through real stories—from resigning a CEO role due to Crohn’s disease, to receiving a home they didn’t pay for, to facing a lifelong fear of dogs—this episode invites you into the spiritual mechanics of aligned creation. Because when you know what you want and surrender the how, miracles happen.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why expansion always comes with a testHow to keep breathing when your plan falls throughThe miracle that followed a $0 property deal collapseWhat it really means to “sacrifice everything else”Why running toward discomfort is the next right stepHow to tell the difference between real danger and a nervous system flare-up“The goalpost is peace. Not comfort. Not certainty. But alignment.”🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

📍 In this episode, Chase walks you through the full Shift 5 framework—a method designed to rewire the subconscious patterns that keep high-performing families stuck in cycles of burnout, illness, conflict, and hustle.You’ll learn how the body’s survival instinct can sabotage growth, how trauma creates default programming, and how healing starts by creating space for miracles.This is the roadmap to reclaiming your health, your joy, and your family’s future.💡 What You’ll Hear:Why willpower alone never creates lasting changeHow your nervous system decides what’s “safe”—and why that mattersWhy your autoimmune symptoms, money blocks, and marriage patterns are all connectedThe full breakdown of The Shift 5:Sense Your BodyHonor What You WantIntentionally SurrenderFearlessly ExpandTrim the SailsThe story of The Miracle of the Hat—and how it can happen for youAn invitation to join the dojo and put this into practice, together🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → @the.shift.5Questions or support → [email protected]

📍 Welcome to the first episode of The Shift 5 Podcast.In this raw and foundational episode, host Chase Thornock shares the real story behind The Shift 5 and Tionatam—how a life-threatening autoimmune disease, a crumbling marriage, and the realization that no one was coming to save him cracked everything open and began the process of deep healing.If you’ve ever felt like your body is the problem…If you’ve been told to wait it out, medicate it away, or just “push through”...If your dreams are quietly dying while you hold everything together for everyone else…This is your episode.💡 What You’ll Hear:The moment Chase realized he was preparing to dieWhat God told him in the silenceHow the medical system unintentionally kept him sickThe misunderstood role of cortisol in stress and autoimmune diseaseThe hidden reason so many families live in constant low-grade fight or flightHow trauma gets inherited—and silently shapes our livesThe birth of The Shift 5 and the Tionatam dojoThis isn’t a story about willpower.It’s about a spiritual, biological, and practical framework that changes everything.🎧 Start here. Then listen to Episode 2 to learn the 5 steps that make up The Shift 5.🔗 Links & Resources:Join the dojo with a free trial → https://www.theshift5.com/offers/uzXUCznHFollow The Shift 5 on Instagram → the.shift.5Questions? Reach out → [email protected]