Then When

What happens when three ladies, a Lego set, and a two-year plan to play hockey all end up in the same recording session? This episode. 🏒We welcomed the one and only Lisa Oestreicher to the podcast this week — Serina's longtime friend, certified Lisapedia, queen of handmade cookie cutters, and all-around creative force of nature. (Spoiler: she is not just one thing. She is, in her own words, a bunch of goblins in a trench coat — and honestly? Aren't we all. 🫂)We dove deep into the art of attention — how we manage it, lose it, fill it back up, and use it to stay connected with the people we love. Oh, and Serina tried to build a Lego set while recording. Live. With guests. Bold choice. Focus, focus, LET'S GO SKATE! 🛼😂A huge shoutout to the Marietta History Museum 🏛️ — where Lisa works her magic as museum assistant, resident numbers whiz, and the creative brain behind some seriously awesome Big Chicken merch. 🐔 If you've never heard of the Big Chicken — Marietta's most iconic landmark and the OG pre-MapQuest GPS — well, now you have. Museum Nerd shirts, buttons, and stickers available in-store. Link in show notes. Yes, really.In this episode:🧩 Serina attempts to build a Lego set mid-episode while holding a full conversation — a masterclass in multitasking OR chaos, depending on who you ask🎨 Lisa's creative life: handmade cookie cutters, museum merch, designing Big Chicken-themed goods, and being the human encyclopedia her husband aptly named "Lisapedia"🏛️ A love letter to the Marietta History Museum and the joy of local art, local history, and Museum Nerd merch (you need the shirt, trust us)🧠 How each of us finds our "attention sweet spot" — doodling, timers, fidget rocks, neo soul playlists, and more📱 Marco Polo app — the unofficial sponsor of Serina and Lisa's friendship, and honestly? It should be an official one. (Marco Polo, call us. Link in show notes 😂)🏒 Lisa's THEN WHEN: a two-year plan to play hockey at 47 — starting from scratch, building endurance, and doing it anyway. We are obsessed.💪 Breaking goals into consumable steps, celebrating small wins, and why "showing up IS the badass move"🪞 The quiet power of mirroring — how watching someone else pursue their goal lights a fire under the rest of us (Lisa's workout Marco Polos have Serina AND her mom moving more 🥹)💬 On receiving compliments gracefully — just say thank you. That's it. That's the whole thing.👩‍👧 Parenting with your whole heart, modeling boldness for your kids, and cheering on the feral little creative creatures they are🎙️ We want to hear from YOU. Do you have a THEN WHEN you're working toward — big, small, or somewhere in between? Are you your own version of Bambi on the ice, just showing up anyway? 🥺🏒 Come tell us about it in our Discord community! Drop your goals, your check-ins, your sweaty progress pics — we're here for ALL of it. Serina and Mary will be cheering you on. 👏We'll see you in the then — so we can get to the when. 💫Then When LinksWebsite: https://www.thenwhenpodcast.com/#ThenWhenPodcast #KindnessMatters #SmallActsBigImpact #PayAttention #MariettaHistoryMuseum #BigChicken #MuseumNerd #AttentionIsAGift #CommunityOverEverything #GoalsAndGoblins 🐔🏒🎨🧩