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UNBOXING OD: Exploring the Work Behind the Work

Unboxing OD is your guide to making sense of Organizational Development - one thoughtful conversation at a time. Hosted by Kenneth Pearson, seasoned OD practitioner and author of The Flow of Five Tiers, this podcast unpacks the complexity of organizational life with clarity, compassion, and a bit of edge. Whether you're an early-career OD professional, a leader trying to navigate change, or simply someone who believes workplaces can be more human, you'll find grounded insights and actionable takeaways here. While most episodes are solo deep dives into the fieldwork and philosophy behind OD, we also feature voices from the field, bringing in experts, newcomers, and those who challenge the status quo. No jargon. No endless theory. Just practical wisdom, lived experience, and a steady focus on making organizations better for the people who keep them alive. Ready to deepen your OD practice? Connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at

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    Episode 36: Creating Joyful Workplaces - Curiosity, Learning, and Growth with Yolanda Fraction

    Sometimes, the path into Organizational Development begins with a single moment. A moment where someone recognizes potential and opens the door to something more.In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with Yolanda Fraction, author of Joyful Workplaces, to explore how that moment shaped her journey and how it continues to influence the way she approaches leadership, learning, and development.What begins as a personal story expands into a deeper conversation about how growth actually happens in organizations. Together, they explore how adults learn, how environment shapes experience, and how curiosity becomes a powerful driver in creating meaningful and lasting development.At the heart of this conversation is a simple and powerful idea: Joyful workplaces are created through intentional design, thoughtful leadership, and a deep understanding of the people at the center of the work.This episode offers a grounded perspective on what it means to support growth in real time while building environments where individuals can think, reflect, and contribute in meaningful ways.To learn more about Yolanda’s work and her book Joyful Workplaces, connect with her here:ORDER JOYFUL WORKPLACES: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GRG5FJ84LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yolanda-fraction/Website: https://www.yolandafraction.comYolanda Fraction's Bio:Yolanda Fraction is a Senior Organization Development Consultant at Johns Hopkins University and a doctoral student in Industrial-Organizational Psychology. With over 20 years of experience spanning higher education, government, nonprofits, and corporate environments, she helps leaders and teams navigate change, foster human-centered workplaces, and build cultures where people and performance thrive. She is the host of the Teamwork Sandbox podcast and an emerging author on joyful workplaces. Yolanda is passionate about translating evidence-based insights into practical strategies that inspire transformation.Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 35: Strategy, Systems, and Succession - Inside STL-ODN's Growth Story

    What happens when Organizational Development Professionals apply their own principles to their own organization? In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with members of the executive team from the St. Louis Organizational Development Network — Ryan McCrea, Aaron Adams, and Joani Alsop — to explore how STL-ODN moved from survival mode to sustained momentum. This conversation goes beyond networking and professional development. It unpacks what intentional strategy, structured operating rhythms, succession planning, mentoring systems, sponsorship development, and regional focus actually look like in practice. The STL-ODN team shares: How they clarified strategy and separated tactical work from strategic workWhy co-creating their mission and vision with members matteredHow mentoring became both a development tool and a pipeline for leadership continuityThe importance of financial sustainability in nonprofit professional communitiesHow they built succession visibility with a president-elect modelWhat it takes to protect momentum without overextending the organizationThis episode is a real-world case study in systems thinking, resilience, and human-centered leadership within a volunteer-run organization. If you’re part of a professional association, an internal OD team, or a leadership group trying to move from “just keeping it afloat” to thriving with intention, this conversation offers practical insight and encouragement. Connect with the Executive Team Ryan McCrea LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmccrea Aaron Adams LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronadams82 Joani Alsop LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanialsopVisit the St. Louis Organizational Development Network Websites and Consider Supporting the Organization!LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/st-louis-organizational-development-network-stl-odnWebsite: https://www.stlodn.orgSupport the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 34: Making Change Human Again - A Conversation with Dr. Jason Guttadauria

    What actually happens after the survey closes, the insights are delivered, and the change initiative officially “launches”?In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with Dr. Jason Guttadauria, founder of JSG Advisory and widely known as “Dr. Irrelevant,” to unpack why so many well-intentioned change efforts stall and what it really takes to move from insight to sustained impact.Jason shares the story behind his “Dr. Irrelevant” moniker and how it reflects a deeper truth in organizational work: credentials and models matter far less than what actually improves the employee experience. Together, they explore the gap between listening and action, the limits of top-down change, and why organizations struggle when insights are treated as endpoints instead of starting points.The conversation dives into real-world examples of hybrid top-down and bottom-up change, the role of behavior in sustaining transformation, and why the popular “seventy percent of change fails” narrative may be doing more harm than good. Jason also introduces the idea of “light-touch coordination” and explains how change becomes more durable when employees help shape it rather than receive it.This episode is for Organizational Development practitioners, I-O psychologists, HR leaders, and anyone responsible for turning feedback into action. If you’ve ever wondered why change feels exhausting, episodic, or disconnected from the people doing the work, this conversation offers a grounded, human-centered perspective on what comes next.CONNECT WITH JASON ON LINKEDIN: www.linkedin.com/in/jasonguttadauriaVISIT THE JSG ADVISORY LLC WEBSITE: https://www.jsgadvisoryllc.comSupport the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 33: The Recruitment System is Broken - Now What?

    Applying for a job shouldn’t feel like shouting into a void. Yet for many candidates today, the recruitment process is defined by silence, redundancy, rigid requirements, and being ghosted after investing real time and effort. Organizations claim they can’t find talent, while candidates quietly opt out of systems that feel dismissive and disconnected from human reality.In this solo episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson takes a hard look at what’s broken in modern recruitment -- and why this is not a candidate problem, but a systems problem. From bloated job descriptions and preferred qualifications treated as requirements to algorithmic screening and months-long interview cycles with no closure, the hiring process has drifted away from the people it’s meant to serve.This episode challenges Organizational Development Professionals and I/O Psychologists to step into their responsibility as systems thinkers and designers. It's important to note that not all recruitment processes are broken -- some organizations still balance efficiency with human interaction -- but those examples are becoming the exception rather than the rule.The question is simple and uncomfortable: if your organization says it can’t find talent, but your recruitment system is quietly repelling it, what exactly needs to change?This is not an episode about blame. It’s an invitation to rethink what we’ve normalized -- and to decide what kind of systems we’re willing to keep defending.Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 32: The OD Perspective on Wellness - A Conversation with Dr. Katina Sawyer

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson is joined by Dr. Katina Sawyer, co-founder of Workr Beeing, Associate Professor of Management and Organizations at the Eller College of Management, and co-author of Leading for Wellness: How to Create a Team Culture Where Everyone Thrives.Together, they explore the deeper meaning of workplace wellness - beyond programs, perks, and initiatives - and uncover how true well-being is built through leadership behavior, team culture, and daily interactions. Dr. Sawyer shares the research and real-world insights that inspired her book, discussing why so many wellness efforts fail to take root, how leadership directly shapes the health of an organization, and what OD professionals can do to align evidence-based practice with human-centered care.From redefining what it means to thrive at work, to rethinking the role of leadership in shaping wellness, this episode offers a refreshing, research-informed perspective on how organizations can move from performative gestures to authentic, sustainable cultures of care.If you’re an OD professional, leader, or HR practitioner ready to rethink what well-being truly looks like inside organizations, this is a conversation that will challenge and inspire your practice.Connect with Dr. Katina Sawyer: 🔹 LinkedIn: Katina Sawyer, Ph.D. | LinkedIn 🔹 Website: https://workrbeeing.com/ 🔹 Book: Leading for Wellness: How to Create a Team Culture Where Everyone Thrives - https://workrbeeing.com/book ... and available wherever books are sold.Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 31: Pop Culture, Real Lessons - Teaching Leadership with Dr. Sy Islam

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, host Kenneth Pearson sits down with Dr. Sy Islam - Co-Founder and Vice President of Consulting at Talent Metrics, and Associate Professor of Psychology at Farmingdale State College - to explore the art and science of leadership development.Dr. Islam shares his insights on how organizations can better support middle managers, why data-driven decisions need a human lens, and how integrity in action separates good leaders from great ones. Together, they discuss the quiet challenges of leadership transitions, the psychology behind motivation and self-efficacy, and the importance of building leadership programs that actually sustain impact over time.You’ll also hear how pop culture - from the Marvel Cinematic Universe to Avatar: The Last Airbender - can serve as a creative bridge for teaching timeless lessons about courage, ethics, and the complexity of leading others.Whether you’re an OD practitioner, L&D professional, or simply a leader navigating organizational change, this conversation offers grounded, practical insights you can apply immediately.ABOUT DR. SY ISLAMLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sislam/ Website: www.talentmetrics.ioLinks to Books: Leaders Assemble! Leadership in the MCU Elements of Leadership: Lessons from Avatar the Last AirbenderSupport the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 30: Hustling With Heart - Jenn Stevens on Presence, Ownership, and Developing Leaders from Any Seat

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, I sit down with Jenn Stevens, an Organizational Development leader whose path into this work is anything but conventional. From firefighter to yoga studio owner to executive coach and L&D leader in tech, Jenn’s story reflects a career stitched together by one consistent thread: a deep commitment to people. We talk about what it really means to “hustle with heart” - bringing both drive and presence into the work. Jenn shares why presence is the true differentiator in leadership, how she’s built teams with a 100% promotion rate, and the simple but powerful practices that sustain real development: weekly one-on-ones that never get canceled, rotating leadership opportunities, and strengths-based stretch assignments that let people grow into their potential. This isn’t just theory. Jenn gets candid about the difference between checking the box on development and actually investing in people, why advocating behind closed doors matters, and how the advice to “lead from the seat you’re in” transformed her approach to ownership and leadership. If you’re looking for a grounded, human perspective on how to develop leaders at every level, this is a conversation worth listening to. Connect with Jenn Stevens:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenn-stevens-ms/Website: https://presenceod.com/ Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 29: Strategic Clarity, Leadership, and AI - Marcus Dudley on Modern Leadership in the Digital Age

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson is joined by Marcus Dudley, leadership and organizational consultant, executive coach, professor, and CEO of Mammoth Leadership and Organizational Development. With over three decades of experience spanning the military, sports, nonprofits, and business, Marcus brings a direct, no-fluff perspective on what modern leaders need most. The conversation explores why so many leadership development programs fall short, the importance of strategic clarity, and how to spot and eliminate “performance drag” — the invisible weight that slows leaders and teams down. Kenneth and Marcus also discuss the overlap and distinction between management and leadership, the ripple effects of stress and growth from workplace to home, and why understanding AI has become a critical leadership skill. Whether you’re an OD practitioner, an HR leader, or simply someone curious about what makes leadership effective in today’s world, this episode offers practical insights grounded in real-world experience. Connect with Marcus Dudley: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusdudley/Website: www.mammothdevelopment.comModern Leadership Scorecard: https://modernleadership.scoreapp.comBook Mammoth Success: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FHBZR3RG Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 28: The Invisible Medal - Leading with a Higher Purpose with Chris Richie

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with Colonel Chris Ritchie, retired United States Marine Corps officer and Director of Human Resource Development at Auburn University. Across his career, Chris has led organizations from small teams to global commands and now designs leadership and performance development programs that reach thousands of employees. Their conversation explores the shift from success to significance -- how true leadership lives not in accolades, but in the invisible medals we earn when we connect with others, build trust, and help people discover their own purpose. Together, they reflect on performance development as a human-centered practice, the role of reflection in leadership, and the ways small choices leave lasting traces. Learn more about Chris’ book The Invisible Medal: Leading with a Higher Purpose at www.invisiblemedal.com Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-richie-usmc/This is an episode about values, presence, and impact -- reminding us that the legacy we leave isn’t written in titles, but in the lives we touch along the way. Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 27: Unspoken Truths, Quiet Legacies - Five Reflections on Work and Self

    This episode of Unboxing OD is something different. Instead of frameworks or methodologies, Kenneth offers a deeply personal reflection told in five movements -- exploring the hidden labor of showing up at work while holding parts of ourselves back, the unspoken space between people, and the truths we carry but often leave unsaid. Across these movements, Kenneth reflects on what it means to return to ourselves and to each other, and the quieter legacies we leave behind in the trace of our presence. If you’ve ever felt yourself negotiating between the role you play at work and the person you truly are, or if you’ve carried the quiet ache of words left unspoken, this episode may meet you where you are. Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 26: The Inner Work of Leadership - A Conversation with Poor Bear Chalepah

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with Poor Bear Chalepah, consultant, visionary leader, and soon-to-be PhD in Industrial-Organizational Psychology. As a proud member of the Apache Tribe of Oklahoma, Poor Bear shares his journey across industries -- from railroads and welding to organizational psychology, and the lessons that shaped his approach to leadership, belonging, and growth. Together, Kenneth and Poor Bear explore what it means to move beyond the buzzwords of inclusion, how authentic leaders create space for stories and cultures to thrive, and why the inner work of leadership is as vital as any strategy. Along the way, they talk about code switching, cultural belonging, growth mindsets, and the challenges of breaking barriers as an Indigenous scholar and practitioner. This conversation is both practical and deeply human, offering insight into how leaders can meet people where they are and build organizations that honor authenticity and belonging. ABOUT POOR BEAR CHALEPAH: Poor-Bear brings a wealth of experience across various industries, specializing in leadership and organizational development. He is a visionary committed to helping others build not just great, but phenomenal companies. He is a proud member of the Apache Tribe of Oklahoma and actively engaged in Indigenous life. Deeply devoted to his wife, Serena, and daughter, Averie, he centers his work in family and purpose. Poor-Bear will soon earn his Ph.D. in Industrial-Organizational Psychology from Keiser University, joining the fewer than 0.01% of Indigenous people who hold a doctorate in this field. CONNECT WITH POOR BEAR CHALEPAH ON LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-poor-bear-chalepah-029610220/ CONGENIALITY CONSULTING LLC:  https://sites.google.com/view/congenialityconsultingllc?usp=sharing Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 25: OD Burnout Is Real - Protecting Your Capacity in the Work That Holds So Much

    In this solo episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson steps into a conversation that many OD practitioners feel but rarely name -- burnout. Not the surface-level fatigue that comes after a long week, but the deep, layered exhaustion that comes from holding space for others, navigating resistant systems, and balancing the emotional labor that sits beneath our day-to-day work. Kenneth unpacks how OD burnout shows up, why it builds over time, and the quiet cost of constantly staying present for everyone else while neglecting your own restoration. He shares signs to watch for, stories from the field, and practical strategies for protecting your capacity without sacrificing integrity. This episode is both an honest acknowledgment of the weight this work can carry and a reminder that caring for yourself is not separate from your role -- it’s essential to it. Whether you are in the midst of your own exhaustion or want to prevent it, this conversation offers space, perspective, and tools for reclaiming your voice and your energy in the work you love. Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 24: Change by Design - A Conversation with Melissa Donegan

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, host Kenneth Pearson sits down with Melissa Donegan - an experienced leader across federal agencies, healthcare, education, and tech - to talk about what it really means to design for change instead of reacting to it. Together, they explore how intentional listening and career mindfulness can transform not only the outcomes of an initiative but also the people at the heart of it. Melissa shares how her career path has shaped her perspective, what it means to mentor with presence, and why allyship and empathy are essential to long-term change. They talk about building trust, seeing potential in others before they see it in themselves, and navigating the workplace with a mindset rooted in curiosity and connection. This conversation is full of real moments, practical insight, and gentle reminders that OD is not just about systems - it’s about people. So grab a cup of coffee, and join us for a grounded, insightful dialogue about designing for meaningful, lasting change. TO CONNECT WITH MELISSALinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-donegan-28a60790/E-Mail: [email protected] the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 23: Inclusion, Community, & Compassion - Alex Ochoa & The Work of Becoming

    In this special in-person episode of Unboxing OD, Alex Ochoa shares what it means to show up - fully, boldly, and unapologetically - in a profession where you don’t always see yourself reflected. A first-generation Latina college graduate, Learning & Development Specialist, and co-founder of Latinos in I/O Psychology (LIOP), Alex opens up about navigating identity, imposter syndrome, and the quiet power of building space when none was offered. This episode isn’t about theory. It’s about experience. It’s about learning how to take up space after being told not to. It’s about creating connection where isolation once stood. And it’s about remembering that the most radical thing we can do, especially in the workplace, is to listen - to ourselves, to others, and to the stories we haven’t heard yet. Alex reminds us that leadership isn't about having all the answers. It’s about showing up with compassion, claiming your place, and extending a hand to those still finding theirs. Connect with Alex on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandraochoa/Learn more about LIOP and upcoming events:LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13880550/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/latinosiniopsychology/ Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 22: When the Diagnosis Hurts - Telling the Truth in OD

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, host Kenneth Pearson takes us into one of the most delicate and defining aspects of organizational development - what happens when your findings reveal something uncomfortable, something that leadership might not be ready to hear. OD practitioners are often asked to assess culture, diagnose issues, and present a path forward. But what happens when the data tells a harder story? One of broken trust, misaligned values, or leadership that’s lost touch? How do you tell the truth without losing your seat at the table? Through reflective insight and field-based strategies, Kenneth explores how to approach difficult diagnoses with integrity, care, and precision. You’ll hear how framing, timing, sequencing, and narrative can transform uncomfortable truths into catalysts for change. This episode also offers guidance on holding the room during challenging conversations, honoring the voices of employees, and choosing courage over comfort, even when it comes at a cost. Whether you’re new to the field or deep in the practice, this is a conversation about truth-telling, discernment, and the deeper responsibility of OD work. So grab a cup of coffee, and join us as we explore what it really means to speak the truth - especially when it hurts. Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 21: Navigating the Transition from L&D to OD with Bethany Rios, MPH

    In this guest episode of Unboxing OD, host Kenneth Pearson sits down with Bethany Rios, Organizational Development Manager and L&D professional, for a candid conversation about stepping into the world of OD from a background in training and development. Together, they explore what it means to shift from a skills-based approach to a systems-level mindset, how OD differs from L&D in practice, and why relationship-building and leadership buy-in are essential to long-term success. Bethany shares insights from her journey, including what surprised her most, how she defines success in the field, and what she wishes someone had told her before making the leap. Whether you're thinking about transitioning into OD or supporting someone who is, this episode offers a thoughtful look at the growth, challenges, and human-centered values that define the field. So grab a cup of coffee, and join us for an honest reflection on the journey from delivery to design, and from instruction to impact. ABOUT BETHANY RIOS, MPHBethany is a dedicated Learning and Development professional with a proven track record of delivering transformative training programs. With 8 years of experience in the field, Bethany has honed her expertise in designing and implementing innovative learning strategies that foster continuous growth and maximize employee performance.Throughout her career, Bethany has collaborated with diverse teams across industries such as healthcare and hospitality, tailoring learning initiatives to address specific organizational needs and drive meaningful change. Skilled in instructional design, e-learning platforms, and interactive methodologies, Bethany creates engaging, results-driven programs that consistently exceed performance targets.Believing that knowledge is the key to transformation, Bethany continues to empower leaders and teams to excel in an ever-evolving professional world. To connect with Bethany via LinkedIn:  www.linkedin.com/in/bethany-rios-mph-4a1aa8188Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 20: The Silent Partner - Power in Organizations

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth explores the powerful presence of organizational power dynamics and the influence they carry in shaping culture, conversations, and decisions. These dynamics often live beneath the surface, guiding what is shared, what remains unspoken, and how change takes shape across teams and leadership. Kenneth invites listeners to reflect on what it means to be brought in as a trusted voice, while also encountering subtle boundaries around what can truly be addressed. He offers thoughtful insights and strategies for navigating these moments with clarity and care, drawing on practical approaches that support trust, transparency, and systemic alignment. From mapping informal influence to guiding conversations that support meaningful dialogue, this episode encourages practitioners to remain curious, observant, and rooted in the values that support long-term transformation. So pour a cup of coffee, settle in, and join the conversation as we explore the quiet forces that shape our work in Organizational Development. Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 19: Allyship in Action with Dr. Victoria Mattingly

    In this powerful and personal conversation, Dr. Victoria Mattingly (Dr. V) - organizational psychologist, keynote speaker, and CEO of Mattingly Solutions - joins Kenneth to explore what it really means to act like an ally in the workplace.From her unexpected entry into IO psychology to the human-centered heart of her work, Dr. V shares the stories and insights that have shaped her journey. Together, they dive into how allyship can move from performance to partnership, how vulnerability and inclusion show up in leadership, and why being a “good-ish person” is more than enough when you’re growing.They explore real stories of leadership, resilience, and inclusion - from navigating illness and identity to reframing allyship as a shared responsibility grounded in trust and empathy. This is a conversation for OD professionals, DEI champions, leaders, and anyone who's learning to speak up, show up, and lead with heart.To order Dr. Victoria Mattingly's upcoming book, Act like an Ally, Work with an Ally, please visit www.mattinglysolutions.com/allyshipTo connect with Dr. V on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/vpmattingly/Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 18: The Myth of the Quick Fix - Why OD Work Takes Time

    We all love a quick fix - something that solves the problem, calms the chaos, and gets us back on track. But in the world of Organizational Development, quick fixes often don’t fix anything at all. In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth explores the myth of fast solutions and why real, sustainable change takes time, reflection, and iteration.He unpacks why surface-level interventions often miss the mark, how root cause analysis requires patience, and what it really means to “slow down to speed up.” You’ll hear an example of when a simple workshop request revealed much deeper organizational issues, and how OD work can uncover and begin to heal what’s underneath the surface.This episode is an invitation to OD practitioners, leaders, and changemakers to rethink what “results” look like, and to embrace the kind of work that leads to transformation, not just temporary relief.Stick around through the outro for exciting updates, including the launch of Kenneth’s new book The Flow of Five Tiers, upcoming guest interviews, and the release of a brand-new self-paced course: The 21-Day Leadership Reboot.Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 17: From Idea to Impact - Designing Strategic, Human-Centered Interventions

    What separates a one-time workshop from an intervention that actually changes the way people work together?In this episode of Unboxing OD, we explore what it really takes to design effective Organizational Development interventions - those that align with strategy, honor the human experience, and create lasting movement in the system.Kenneth Pearson walks through how to ground interventions in real organizational goals, shares listener and colleague inspired stories from leadership and team-building engagements, and calls out the common traps that even experienced OD professionals can fall into. From overcomplicating the design to skipping diagnosis, this conversation is filled with practical wisdom and field-tested insights.We also dive into the value of integrating feedback loops - not as an afterthought, but as an essential part of how OD work breathes, grows, and evolves.Whether you’re designing your first intervention or refining your approach to systems-level change, this episode is here to support your journey.And if you’ve been listening and thinking, I’ve got a story to tell - you just might be our next guest. Reach out at [email protected] or connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn to learn more.The Flow of Five Tiers book, which expands on this philosophy, is available wherever books are sold!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 16: The Power of Storytelling in Organizational Development

    Storytelling isn’t just a soft skill - it’s one of the most powerful tools OD practitioners have to navigate complexity, build trust, and move people through change. In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson explores how stories can transform the way organizations engage with change, strategy, and culture.You’ll get a quick overview of how to simplify complex initiatives through narrative, craft compelling change stories that resonate, and use storytelling techniques to build authentic buy-in. Kenneth also shares a case study where shifting the story helped re-energize a skeptical and fatigued organization.Whether you’re leading transformation, supporting culture work, or simply looking for a better way to connect purpose with practice, this episode offers both strategy and heart.Plus, hear how storytelling plays a central role in Pearson & Pearson’s consulting approach and The Flow of Five Tiers - Kenneth’s upcoming book releasing May 27, 2025. And if you’ve ever thought about joining the conversation on the podcast, now’s your chance. Reach out at [email protected] or message Kenneth on LinkedIn to explore being a future guest.Because every OD practitioner has a story worth sharing, and the work becomes stronger when we share it together.Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 15: The Flow of Five Tiers - Seeing the Whole System

    What happens when we pause, zoom out, and ask: What are we really building?In this special episode of Unboxing OD, host Kenneth Pearson introduces The Flow of Five Tiers - a reflective, systems-based framework for understanding how real change happens inside organizations. Rather than offering another top-down model, this episode presents a fresh, integrated lens for OD practitioners and change leaders seeking clarity in complexity.Kenneth walks through each tier - Foundational Core, Leadership & Strategy, Culture & People, Processes & Systems, and Impact & Outcomes - exploring how these interconnected layers shape the flow of organizational life. You’ll gain a deeper understanding of how to identify misalignment, strengthen your interventions, and support sustainable change - not just at the surface, but at the system level.Rooted in idealism but grounded in experience, this conversation is both philosophical and practical. Because creating a healthy organization doesn’t start with a policy or a plan. It starts with people, especially the ones willing to ask better questions.The Flow of Five Tiers book will be available in May 2025 on the Pearson & Pearson LLC website, or wherever books are sold.Until then, this episode offers a meaningful introduction for those ready to shift from fragmentation to flow.Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 14: Building Trust & Credibility as an OD Practitioner

    Trust and credibility aren’t just nice-to-haves in Organizational Development - they’re foundational. In this episode of Unboxing OD, we briefly explore how OD practitioners can build influence without formal authority, create psychological safety within teams, and turn resistance into opportunity.Through the story of Devon, a new internal OD specialist navigating the difference between permission and trust, we uncover what it really takes to earn leadership buy-in and foster meaningful change.Whether you’re just stepping into the OD space or leading major initiatives without a formal title, this episode offers insight, encouragement, and real-world application for the moments that matter most.If you like this episode, we encourage you to subscribe! You can also e-mail me at [email protected] or connect with me on LinkedIn. You can also CLICK HERE learn more about The Flow of Five Tiers.As always, thank you for listening!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 13: A Day in the Life - The Key Responsibilities of an OD Professional

    What does a typical day look like for an Organizational Development (OD) practitioner? The short answer: there’s no such thing as typical.In this episode of Unboxing OD, we walk through the real-world responsibilities of OD professionals - how we move from deep diagnosis to intentional intervention, build strategic trust with leadership, navigate complex political dynamics, and make tough prioritization calls when everything feels urgent.Through the story of Liana, a fictional but deeply relatable OD consultant, we explore what it really means to do this work with clarity, compassion, and impact. From facilitating unexpected conflict to guiding leadership through culture change, Liana’s day captures the human heart of OD: showing up with purpose, listening well, and moving the system - one conversation at a time.This episode is for anyone doing OD work, considering the field, or trying to better understand what makes this role so critical in today’s organizations.If your team is facing change or complexity, Pearson & Pearson LLC offers project-based consulting that meets you where you are - and helps you move forward with confidence. And for those looking to deepen their practice, stay tuned for The Flow of Five Tiers, a forthcoming book that explores the foundational elements shaping organizational life.I'd love to hear from you! Connect with me on LinkedIn!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 12: Followership - The Unsung Power Behind Great Leadership

    What if the key to better leadership ... is better followership?In this episode of Unboxing OD, we’re flipping the script and turning our attention to a concept that’s often overlooked but absolutely essential - followership. We’ll explore what followership really is (and what it’s not), how it plays a vital role in organizational success, and why developing this skill is just as important as leadership itself.You’ll hear the story of Camden and Elise - two professionals navigating a shift in roles, power, and trust - and how their ability to move between leading and following created a stronger, more adaptable team. We’ll also unpack how OD practitioners can help individuals and organizations cultivate followership as a core capability, and why influence doesn’t require a title.Whether you see yourself as a leader, a follower, or something in between—this episode will challenge you to rethink how leadership really works and how we all contribute to the flow of organizational life.For support in strengthening leadership, followership, and team dynamics in your organization, reach out to Pearson & Pearson LLC at [email protected] or connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn.Thank you for listening!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 11: Systems, Ethics, Balance, & Growth - The OD Practitioner Mindset

    What does it really mean to think like an OD practitioner? It’s more than just knowing frameworks or designing interventions - it’s about embracing complexity, seeing organizations as interconnected systems, and balancing business outcomes with employee well-being. It’s about making tough ethical decisions with integrity and navigating change with a people-centered approach. And above all, it’s about self-awareness and continuous learning - because OD isn’t just about helping organizations grow, it’s about growing with them.In this episode, we’ll unpack the core elements of the OD mindset: systems thinking, ethical decision-making, strategic balancing, and the commitment to lifelong learning. Whether you’re new to OD or a seasoned practitioner, this conversation will help you refine your approach and strengthen your impact.Tune in as we explore what separates effective OD practitioners from the rest - and why shifting your mindset is the key to driving meaningful, lasting change.If you enjoy the episode, don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review! Let’s keep the conversation going - connect with me on LinkedIn or email me at [email protected] the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 10: What Does an Organizational Development Professional Actually Do?

    In this episode of Unboxing OD, we’re pulling back the curtain on a question that’s fundamental yet often misunderstood: What does an Organizational Development (OD) professional actually do? Today, we’re diving into the core responsibilities of OD professionals - diagnosing organizational health, designing targeted interventions, facilitating change, and measuring impact - all with the goal of helping organizations function more effectively and adapt to change more smoothly.We’ll explore how OD goes far beyond team-building exercises and training programs to address deeper challenges like leadership alignment, cultural transformation, and strategic growth. Through real-world examples, we’ll see how OD professionals use data-driven insights and human-centered strategies to solve complex organizational problems. The episode also covers the skills that set successful OD practitioners apart - such as facilitation, data analysis, and strategic thinking - and offers actionable steps for navigating common challenges, including resistance to change and organizational politics.Whether you’re an aspiring OD professional, a leader looking to strengthen your organization, or simply curious about what OD is all about, this episode has something for you. Tune in to discover the real-world impact of OD and gain practical insights for making your organization more adaptable, resilient, and effective.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson or e-mail him at [email protected] to share your questions and ideas for future episodes! Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 09: Leading with Purpose - The Connection Between Leadership & Management (Bonus Episode)

    Leadership and management - two words often used interchangeably, yet they play distinct and complementary roles in shaping organizations. In this special episode of Unboxing OD, we explore how leadership and management work together to drive sustainable success.This episode holds particular significance as part of my graduate coursework at National University, where I’m pursuing a Master of Science in Industrial Organizational Psychology. I want to extend my gratitude to Dr. Lisa Teeter and the exceptional faculty at National University for their guidance in deepening my understanding of organizational leadership.We’ll unpack the evolution of leadership, drawing on recent research to explore transformational leadership, the coaching mindset, and the power of trust in leadership effectiveness. We’ll also break down goal-setting frameworks like SMART, WOOP, and PESTEL, showing how data-driven leadership fuels better decision-making.To bring these ideas to life, we’ll examine a real-world example - a Tribal Government’s emergency response during the COVID-19 pandemic. This case study illustrates how cross-functional leadership, data-informed decision-making, and strategic collaboration helped navigate a crisis and strengthen long-term resilience.Whether you’re leading a team, managing daily operations, or preparing for a leadership role, this episode offers valuable insights and actionable strategies to help you balance vision with execution.For those interested in advancing their knowledge in Industrial Organizational Psychology, check out the MSIOP program at Masters Industrial Organizational Psychology | NU.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes! -----ReferencesCrossley. C., Taylor, S., Liden, R., Wo, D., & Piccolo, R. (2024). Right from the start: The association between leadership, trust primacy, and customer loyalty. Journal of Business Ethics, 193, 409-426. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10551-023-05485-yEddy, P., VanDerLinden, K., & Hartman, C. (2023). Changing definitions of leadership or same old “hero” leader? Community College Review, 51(1Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 08: From Silence to Strength - How OD Practitioners Encourage Psychological Safety in the Workplace

    Imagine a workplace where people feel safe to speak up, share ideas, admit mistakes, and challenge the status quo without fear of judgment or retaliation. That’s the power of psychological safety, and it’s not just a nice-to-have - it’s a critical factor in an organization’s success. But creating this kind of culture doesn’t happen by accident. It takes intentional effort, and Organizational Development (OD) practitioners play a key role in making it a reality.In this episode of Unboxing OD, we’re taking a look at psychological safety - what it is, why it matters, and how OD professionals can help foster it within teams and organizations. We’ll break down practical strategies OD teams can use to influence leadership, design interventions, and create environments where employees feel empowered to take risks, innovate, and contribute meaningfully.Whether you’re an OD professional, HR leader, or simply someone interested in creating a more open and effective workplace, this episode will give you actionable insights on how to make psychological safety a cornerstone of your organization’s culture.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes! Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 07: Leading the Way - How Leadership Defines the Success of Organizational Development

    Leadership isn’t just a title - it’s the engine that drives Organizational Development. In this episode of Unboxing OD, we explore why leadership is the single most important factor in determining whether OD initiatives thrive or fade away. We introduce real-world examples, from Netflix’s commitment to culture to Uber’s early missteps, showing how leadership decisions shape an organization’s DNA. We’ll also dive into the challenges of engaging leadership in OD and practical strategies to bridge the gap between intent and action. Whether you’re an OD professional, a leader, or someone looking to better understand the intersection of leadership and organizational change, this episode will give you the insights to make a lasting impact. Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes! Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 06: More Than Words - Aligning Culture and Strategy for Real Impact

    Culture and strategy - two forces that shape every organization. But what happens when they’re not aligned? In this episode of Unboxing OD, we explore the powerful intersection of culture and strategy, breaking down how these elements must work together to create lasting success.We’ve all seen organizations with ambitious strategies that fall flat because the culture isn’t there to support them. A company might say it values innovation, but if employees are afraid to take risks, that strategy won’t gain traction. So how do we bridge that gap? We’ll discuss the real impact of culture on strategic execution, how organizations can ensure their culture and goals reinforce each other, and the role OD practitioners play in making it all happen.Join me as we unpack what it means to truly align culture and strategy, identify common pitfalls, and share practical steps you can take to ensure your organization is moving in the right direction - together.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes! Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 05: From Metrics to Meaning - Evaluating OD Success

    Success in Organizational Development isn’t always easy to define. Unlike tracking sales or profits, OD measures impact in areas like engagement, retention, and culture - elements that often resist easy quantification. In this episode of Unboxing OD, host Kenneth Pearson unpacks the art and science of measuring OD success.From leading indicators like engagement scores to lagging indicators like improved retention and productivity, we’ll explore the tools and strategies that help organizations connect their OD efforts to meaningful outcomes. Kenneth dives into real-world examples of how metrics have revealed the impact of initiatives, complemented by qualitative insights that bring the data to life.If you’ve ever wondered, “How do we know if our OD work is making a difference?” this episode is for you. Tune in to discover actionable ways to evaluate your efforts, refine your strategies, and communicate the value of OD to stakeholders.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes! Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 04: The OD Practitioner - Detective, Architect, & Culture Shaper

    What exactly does an Organizational Development (OD) practitioner do? You’ve seen them in action—or maybe just heard about them—but their role often feels elusive. In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson demystifies the role of the OD practitioner, peeling back the layers to reveal how these professionals guide organizations toward long-term success.Join us as we explore:The day-to-day work of an OD practitioner, from diagnosing challenges to shaping culture.The essential skills that make OD practitioners effective, including facilitation, active listening, and strategic thinking.Why their work often feels “invisible” but is critical to driving meaningful change.Common misconceptions about OD practitioners and what they really bring to the table.Whether you’re an aspiring OD professional, a leader working with one, or just curious about the field, this episode offers valuable insights into a career that’s equal parts art and science. Tune in and uncover the transformative impact of Organizational Development.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 03: Communication - The Heartbeat of Organizational Success

    Effective communication is the foundation of every successful organization, but it’s often easier said than done. In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson tackles the art of organizational communication—breaking down why it’s more than just talking, emailing, or sharing updates.Join us as we explore:Why communication isn’t about saying more but saying it better.The three pillars of communication: clarity, consistency, and connection.How to tailor your message to resonate with your audience.The transformative role of feedback in bridging communication gaps.Whether you’re a leader striving to connect with your team or an OD professional looking to refine your communication strategies, this episode offers practical insights to elevate how you share and receive information.Tune in to discover how better communication can drive alignment, foster trust, and create lasting impact in your workplace.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 02: The Human Side of Change - Keys to Leading Successful Transitions

    Change is inevitable, but managing it effectively is where the real challenge lies. In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson dives into the key components of change management that can make or break any initiative. Drawing on his experiences in the workplace and including a listener’s question about a chaotic tool rollout, Kenneth unpacks what it takes to plan thoughtfully, communicate clearly, engage teams, and provide the right support for lasting success.You’ll learn how to connect change initiatives to organizational goals, avoid common pitfalls, and ensure that your team feels equipped and empowered to embrace new ways of working. Whether you’re navigating change right now or preparing for the next big shift, this episode is packed with practical insights to help you lead with confidence and intention.Join the conversation, and don’t forget to connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson to share your questions and ideas for future episodes!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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    Episode 01: Introducing Organizational Development - The Human-Centered Approach

    Welcome to the first episode of Unboxing OD! In this episode, we dive into the foundational concepts of Organizational Development, exploring what it is, why it matters, and how it aligns people, processes, strategy, and culture to create thriving workplaces.Whether you're new to OD or looking to understand how it can transform your organization, this episode unpacks the core components of OD and how they work together to drive meaningful change. Discover why people are at the heart of every successful initiative, how streamlined processes support progress, and how culture and strategy play pivotal roles in creating sustainable success.Let’s connect! Find me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson or visit www.pearsonpearson.llc to learn more.Tune in now to start your journey into the transformative world of Organizational Development!Support the showCONNECT WITH KENNETH:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearsonPearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llcE-Mail: [email protected] ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS": Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSIONhttps://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-sessionSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATESHeather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Unboxing OD is your guide to making sense of Organizational Development - one thoughtful conversation at a time. Hosted by Kenneth Pearson, seasoned OD practitioner and author of The Flow of Five Tiers, this podcast unpacks the complexity of organizational life with clarity, compassion, and a bit of edge. Whether you're an early-career OD professional, a leader trying to navigate change, or simply someone who believes workplaces can be more human, you'll find grounded insights and actionable takeaways here. While most episodes are solo deep dives into the fieldwork and philosophy behind OD, we also feature voices from the field, bringing in experts, newcomers, and those who challenge the status quo. No jargon. No endless theory. Just practical wisdom, lived experience, and a steady focus on making organizations better for the people who keep them alive. Ready to deepen your OD practice? Connect with Kenneth on LinkedIn at

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Kenneth Pearson

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