Unlabeled Love

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Unlabeled Love

A supportive, judgment-free podcast for spouses of gender expansive people, such as crossdressers—where love meets lipstick and real talk. Through honest conversations, shared stories, and expert insights, we explore identity, connection, and acceptance with compassion, humor, and heart. You’re not alone—and every relationship deserves respect, authenticity, and a little sparkle.

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    014 From Keystone with Love

    McCartney and Violet reflect on seeing each other again at the Keystone conference, where they met listeners. They describe Keystone highlights, including workshops, the significant-other lunch, vending on the main floor, and their shared goal of helping spouses of gender-expansive partners feel less alone and more supported. McCartney and Deanne hosted a travel workshop about traveling in femme. They also share social moments like dinners, the gala, and dancing.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - ⁠⁠⁠⁠UnlabeledLove⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    013 Culture and Traditions Part 2

    Violet and McCartney continue a discussion on how culture and traditions shape reactions to gender expression for partners of gender-expansive people. They describe historical and cultural examples that challenge Western norms and distinguish gender identity from biological sex. The conversation highlights double standards that allow women to adopt masculine clothing more freely than men adopting feminine presentation. They encourage significant others to examine beliefs, keep open dialogue, and remember it is the same person regardless of presentation.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - ⁠⁠⁠UnlabeledLove⁠⁠⁠ Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    012 Culture and Traditions Part 1

    Violet and McCartney begin a discussion on traditions and gender norms, prompted by a passage from Peggy Rude’s My Husband Wears My Clothes about rigid conditioning around what men and women “should” do. Violet reflects on initial fear and hesitation when Katrina wanted to go out in public, realizing the reaction centered on social expectations and personal embarrassment rather than Katrina’s needs. They compare historical and cultural examples of shifting gendered clothing and labor roles, changing color norms like pink for men, and discuss stereotypes that still sharply separate “male” and “female” traits. You can contact us:email - [email protected] - ⁠⁠UnlabeledLove⁠⁠ Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    011 Healthy Boundaries

    This episode focuses on setting boundaries in relationships where one partner is gender expansive, including why boundaries matter and how they relate to trust and comfort levels. They describe physical, emotional, time, and material boundaries. They stress that boundaries should be specific, communicated calmly with “I” statements, and can evolve over time as acceptance grows. They also discuss healthy versus unhealthy partner responses, warn against guilt, manipulation, lying, or ignoring boundaries, and recommend individual or couples therapy with clinicians familiar with gender and relationship issues. They close by reminding listeners to prioritize empathy without losing one’s own identity.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - ⁠UnlabeledLove⁠ Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    010 Fearless and Fabulous

    Violet and McCartney discuss practical packing and presentation tips for cruising, including mix-and-match outfits, comfortable shoes, sweaters for cool evenings, shapewear, wigs, and nails. They address strategies for building confidence on board, including choosing quieter pool times. The conversation also focuses on encouraging spouses to join for community, self-care, and mutual enjoyment, and on examining whether hesitation stems from personal boundaries or fear of others’ opinions. They close by stating plans to see listeners at the Keystone Conference (March 18–22). You can contact us:email - [email protected] - UnlabeledLove Facebook - Violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    009-Pros and Cons

    In this episode, Violet and McCartney explore the pros and cons of being the significant other of a gender expansive person. Specifically, how it affects them, emphasizing that experiences vary by individual and relationship. They describe key pros such as enhanced communication, deeper intimacy and trust, creative self-expression, community connections, and even shared fashion tips. They also cover challenges and cons, including identity struggles for the partner, social stigma, financial strain, and conflicts over borrowing clothes and limited closet space. You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    008-From Denial to Acceptance

    In this discussion, Violet and McCartney explore the emotional complexities faced by significant others when their partners reveal that they are a crossdresser. They share personal anecdotes about dealing with grief, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. The conversation underscores the need for open communication and setting healthy boundaries. They emphasize the importance of journaling feelings to process emotions and encourage supportive dialogue between partners. The aim is to help couples strengthen their relationship as they navigate this sensitive subject.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee & McCartnie Rose

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    007 To share or not to share

    In this episode, Violet and McCartney discuss their experiences and considerations surrounding revealing their spouses' crossdressing identities to family, friends, and the world. They share personal anecdotes about the challenges of keeping secrets, handling potential rejection, and the importance of building trust and intimacy in relationships. They emphasize the need for patience and understanding when disclosing such personal information. Ultimately, the decision to share is presented as deeply personal, requiring careful consideration of timing and readiness on the part of both the crossdresser and their loved ones.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee

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    006 Cruising as the Significant Other

    In this episode of Unlabeled Love, Violet and McCartnie discuss McCartnie’s experience organizing and participating in the 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun' crossdressing cruise. McCartnie discusses the initial apprehensions and logistics of their first cruise, highlighting the challenges and learning experiences of making everyone, including herself, comfortable. They also talk about the latest cruise, including group activities, and emphasize the growing ease and enjoyment over the years. 💞McCartnie emphasizes the importance of creating a supportive environment for all, whether they're dressing fully or partially en femme. They conclude with thoughts on expanding such inclusive activities beyond cruises to foster community and social comfort.🌸💜You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee

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    005 McCartnie + Deann

    In this episode of Unlabeled Love, McCartnie discusses her journey of accepting her husband's cross-dressing over their 40-year marriage. She gradually realized her husband's preference for women's clothing, which initially left her feeling betrayed and disappointed. Over time, boundaries were set and adjusted, ultimately leading McCartnie to accept and even join Deann in related activities.💞The discussion highlights the importance of communication, trust, and mutual respect in maintaining a strong relationship despite unconventional dynamics. The hosts also emphasize the value of couples therapy and thoroughly analyzing the whole relationship when confronting such revelations.🌸💜You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee

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    004-Violet and Catrina

    In this episode of 'Unlabeled Love', Violet narrates her 30-year relationship with her partner, Catrina, highlighting the complexities of living with a crossdresser, including managing Catrina's appearances around their children and family. McCartney relates by sharing similar experiences with her partner Deanne, highlighting emotional nuances and societal perceptions. The episode offers an intimate glimpse into their lives, showcasing resilience and mutual support in their unique relationships.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee

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    003-Finding Belonging

    In this episode of 'Unlabeled Love,' Violet and McCartney share their experiences at the Keystone Conference, focusing on their initial discomfort and gradual acceptance.  They discuss the emotional journey of supporting their crossdressing spouses, and reflect on the emotional complexities and the gradual process of becoming more comfortable in these supportive communities.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee

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    002-Discovery Moment

    In this episode, Violet and McCartney share how they first learned their spouses were crossdressers and how their relationships evolved.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee

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    Episode 1 - How we started

    In this episode, Violet and McCartnie recount how they met and how they decided to start this podcast.You can contact us:email - [email protected] - Unlabeledlove.podcastFacebook - violet S. Lee

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    Unlabeled Love - Who are we?

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

A supportive, judgment-free podcast for spouses of gender expansive people, such as crossdressers—where love meets lipstick and real talk. Through honest conversations, shared stories, and expert insights, we explore identity, connection, and acceptance with compassion, humor, and heart. You’re not alone—and every relationship deserves respect, authenticity, and a little sparkle.

HOSTED BY

Violet S and McCartnie Rose

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