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Unshaken Truth
by Josh Burns & Andrew Roark
What happened to us can happen to anyone. In a shocking number of cases, including ours, medical professionals and law enforcement have rushed to judgment when confronted with an infant or toddler’s apparent injury or, worse, sudden death. They stop looking for what really happened, an illness or underlying medical condition, instead calling it abuse based on nothing more than a flawed hypothesis. Too many families’ lives have been ripped apart because of this junk science; we want to bring attention to this persistent injustice. Josh Burns and Andrew Roark were both falsely accused of child abuse based on the debunked “Shaken Baby Syndrome” hypothesis. Both men were exonerated in the same week of November 2024. Since then, Josh and Andrew have been actively advocating for others falsely accused under this flawed, non-scientific theory. Josh testified before the Texas House of Representatives Criminal Jurisprudence Committee on behalf of Robert Roberson, a Texas man on
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The Unshaken Truth About the Death Penalty with Nan Tolson
Join Unshaken Truth for a powerful conversation with Nan Tolson, director of Texas Conservatives Concerned About the Death Penalty. In this episode, we examine why capital punishment conflicts with conservative principles and explore the urgent case of Robert Roberson—a man on death row whose conviction rests on debunked science.Through personal stories, scientific evidence, and bipartisan advocacy, this episode challenges listeners to reconsider their stance on the death penalty and understand the systemic failures that put innocent lives at risk. The Robert Roberson case: how flawed forensics and rushed judgments threaten justice-Why scientific integrity and transparency are essential in capital cases--Bipartisan efforts exposing fatal flaws in the death penalty system-Conservative arguments for ending capital punishment: fiscal responsibility, pro-life values, and limited government-Practical advocacy steps: engaging lawmakers, educating communities, and sharing storiesTexas Conservatives Concerned About the Death Penalty:Website: www.tcadp.org/TexasCCATDPX/Twitter: @texasccatdpFacebook: fb.com/TexasCCATDPInstagram: @texasccatdpYouTube: @TexasCCATDPEmail: [email protected] with Unshaken Truth:[email protected] www.unshakentruth.comMusic Credits: UKY9VUNEJUCDUZPV | 3R7LYKCZ91SY4BGZ | EWCHMZMJXDXLKUT4Photo Credits: Robert Roberson photos by Ilana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence Project | Family of Robert Roberson | Dallas Morning News | D Magazine | Wall Street Journal | Rep. John Bucy
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The Fight for Robert Roberson with Texas State Representative Joe Moody
In this powerful episode, hosts Josh Burns and Andrew Roark—both exonerees who were wrongfully convicted based on flawed shaken baby syndrome evidence—sit down with Texas State Representative Joe Moody to discuss the urgent case of Robert Roberson, a man on death row whose conviction rests on the same discredited science that nearly cost them their lives.Representative Moody takes listeners inside the dramatic effort to save Robert's life, including the unprecedented decision to issue a legislative subpoena to halt his execution. He reveals the shocking limitations of Texas's 2013 Junk Science Law, explains why it failed Robert despite being designed for cases exactly like his, and discusses the bipartisan coalition fighting to prevent an irreversible injustice.This conversation goes beyond one case to examine systemic failures in our criminal justice system: how outdated science becomes locked into convictions, why legal standards haven't kept pace with medical knowledge, and what reforms are desperately needed. Most importantly, it shows the human cost of these failures and the faith that sustains those fighting for truth.Whether you're passionate about criminal justice reform, concerned about wrongful convictions, or simply believe in evidence-based justice, this episode offers both sobering reality and actionable hope.- Robert Roberson's Case: The imminent execution of a potentially innocent man and striking parallels to other wrongful convictions- The Junk Science Crisis: How discredited medical theories continue to keep innocent people behind bars- Texas's Junk Science Law: The 2013 legislation, its promise, and why it's failing those it was meant to protect- Unprecedented Legislative Action: The controversial subpoena strategy and the legal risks Representative Moody and his colleagues took- Bipartisan Justice: How wrongful conviction cases unite lawmakers across the political spectrum- Face-to-Face with Death Row: Representative Moody's personal meeting with Robert Robertson and what it revealed- Systemic Reform Needs: From scientific standards to legal representation—what must change- Medical Evidence Matters: The critical role of differential diagnosis in distinguishing abuse from medical conditions- Take Action: Concrete ways listeners can advocate for reform and support those wrongfully convicted(http://www.unshakentruth.com) [email protected] episode represents more than a discussion about one case—it's a call to action. When scientific evidence evolves, our justice system must evolve with it. Robert Roberson's case demonstrates what happens when it doesn't: an innocent person faces execution while the evidence that could save him is locked out by procedural barriers.Josh and Andrew know this reality intimately. They lived it. Their freedom came only after years of fighting against the same flawed science that convicted Robert. Now, they're using their platform to ensure others don't suffer the same fate.Representative Moody's courage in taking unprecedented legislative action despite significant personal and political risk shows that change is possible when people of conscience refuse to look away. His bipartisan approach proves that justice shouldn't be a partisan issue.Music credits: UKY9VUNEJUCDUZPV 3R7LYKCZ91SY4BGZPhoto credits: Photos of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence Project Family of Robert Roberson Dallas Morning News D Magazine Wall Street Journal Rep. John Bucy
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Fighting Junk Science and Wrongful Convictions with Texas State Representative Lacey Hull
Unshaken Truth: Fighting Junk Science and Wrongful Convictions with Texas State Representative Lacey HullWhen flawed medical theories send innocent people to death row, who stands up for justice? In this powerful episode, hosts Josh Burns and Andrew Roark—both exonerated after wrongful convictions—sit down with Texas State Representative Lacey Hull to expose the dangerous role of junk science in our criminal justice system.Representative Hull has emerged as a fierce advocate for Robert Roberson, a Texas man on death row convicted solely on the now-debunked Shaken Baby Syndrome theory. As a champion for parental rights and evidence-based justice, she's fighting to secure Robert a new trial and prevent future tragedies rooted in pseudoscience.This episode reveals the urgent need to scrutinize medical evidence, reform forensic standards, and protect innocent lives from being destroyed by outdated theories masquerading as science.What You'll Discover:• How shaken baby syndrome and other pseudoscience have led to wrongful convictions across America • Robert Roberson's heartbreaking case: an innocent father facing execution based on discredited evidence • Critical flaws in medical and forensic testimony that courts still accept as fact • The personal toll: Representative Hull's visits with Robert on death row and his unwavering faith • Why comprehensive medical evidence—including autism spectrum disorder—was ignored in Robert's trial • Systemic failures: diagnostic errors, bias, and the barriers to justice during appeals • Legislative solutions: what reforms Texas needs to prevent future wrongful convictions • What true justice looks like for Robert and others convicted on junk scienceEpisode Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: When junk science destroys lives 01:02 - Josh and Andrew share their exoneration stories and the flawed medical evidence that convicted them 02:06 - Robert Roberson's case: wrongful imprisonment and a death sentence 03:34 - Meet State Representative Lacey Hull and her fight for justice reform 07:53 - Exposing the flaws: problems with forensic evidence, autopsies, and medical testing 09:01 - A death row visit: Robert's character, faith, and humanity behind the headlines 13:21 - Debunking misconceptions: what the evidence really shows in Robert's case 15:50 - The path forward: why Robert deserves a new trial with proper expert testimony 22:36 - Beyond one case: systemic bias, diagnostic errors, and the need for policy change 30:10 - The appeals roadblock: challenges in legislative intervention and reform efforts 32:46 - Envisioning justice: what Robert's exoneration would mean and reforms Texas must adoptResources & Additional Information:• Unshaken Truth Website: www.unshakentruth.com • Michael Morton Law (Texas wrongful conviction reform) • Autism Spectrum Disorder resources • Justice Corner - Get involved and contact usConnect with Representative Lacey Hull: • LinkedIn | TwitterThis episode is essential listening for anyone who believes in justice, evidence-based convictions, and protecting the innocent. Share it with your network to raise awareness about the urgent need for forensic science reform and systemic change in our courts.Subscribe to Unshaken Truth wherever you listen to podcasts, and join the fight against wrongful convictions.Photo credits: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence Project Family of Robert Roberson Dallas Morning News D Magazine Wall Street Journal Rep. John BucyMusic Credits: NT97ZKHQTVIQU0OT UAGWCLVVNNNZMGNK OHOXKVIET12O9NOW
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Exposing Flaws in Shaken Baby Syndrome with Keith Findley Part 2
UNSHAKEN TRUTH: Exposing Flaws in Shaken Baby Syndrome with Keith Findley EPISODE DESCRIPTIONWhen medical diagnoses become criminal evidence, innocent families pay the price. In this powerful episode, we sit down with Keith Findley—retired law professor and leading expert in wrongful convictions and forensic science—to uncover the dangerous flaws in shaken baby syndrome and how it has led to devastating miscarriages of justice. From the courtroom to the medical examiner's office, we explore how outdated science, systemic failures, and the tension between medical and legal communities have torn families apart. Keith shares insights from decades of work, including the heartbreaking Robert Robertson case, and reveals what reforms are desperately needed to prevent future wrongful convictions. What You'll Learn:- Why shaken baby syndrome remains scientifically controversial- How evolving medical understanding challenges decades of convictions- The emotional and legal toll on families wrongfully accused- Why medical professionals are deeply divided on this diagnosis- Critical reforms needed in forensic science and legal practices- The dangers of overdiagnosis in child abuse casesGUEST Keith Findley | Retired Law Professor & Wrongful Conviction ExpertKeith is a nationally recognized authority on wrongful convictions, forensic science reform, and criminal justice. His work has helped exonerate innocent individuals and reshape how courts evaluate scientific evidence. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS 🎙️ "Science is always changing, and we must adapt." 🎙️ "Robert's case exemplifies a massive injustice." 🎙️ "Science and law often exist in tension." TIMESTAMPS [00:00] The Debate on Scientific Rigor in Child Abuse Literature [03:58] The Evolution of Medical Understanding [05:19] Challenges in Prosecuting Shaken Baby Syndrome Cases [10:28] The Emotional Toll of False Accusations [15:49] Patterns in Wrongful Convictions [21:01] The Divide Among Medical Professionals [24:32] Reforming the Legal System to Prevent Wrongful Convictions [27:24] The Robert Robertson Case: A Cautionary Tale [31:15] The Dangers of Overdiagnosis in Child Abuse [33:23] The Tension Between Science and Law RESOURCES - Visit www.unshakentruth.com for more episodes and resources- Learn more about wrongful convictions and how you can help Contact: [email protected] TAGS #WrongfulConvictions #ShakenBabySyndrome #ForensicScience #JusticeReform #LegalReform #CriminalJustice #Innocence #MedicalMalpractice #UnshakenTruth Key improvements made:- Added compelling episode title and opening hook- Structured guest bio for credibility- Reformatted for better readability with clear sections- Added visual elements (emojis) for sound bites- Included actionable "What You'll Learn" section- Added hashtags for social media discoverability- Created urgency and emotional connection in the description Photo credits: Wisconsin Innocence Project University of Wisconsin Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence Project Family of Robert Roberson Dallas Morning News D Magazine Wall Street Journal Rep. John Bucy Music Credits: TYLXP8OKYKWE2LTK 5IX02NLL8KHJEJNT
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The Scientific Flaws Behind Shaken Baby Syndrome with Keith Findley Part 1
Unshaken Truth: The Scientific Flaws Behind Shaken Baby SyndromeEpisode DescriptionIn this groundbreaking episode, we sit down with Keith Findley, retired law professor and leading expert on forensic science reform, to examine one of the most controversial diagnoses in modern medicine: shaken baby syndrome. Findley reveals how a 1971 hypothesis became entrenched medical dogma without proper scientific validation, leading to devastating wrongful convictions and shattered families.Discover the hidden biases in forensic medicine, the institutional forces that resist scientific scrutiny, and why cases once considered "open and shut" are now being overturned across the country. This conversation challenges everything you thought you knew about child abuse diagnosis and exposes the urgent need for evidence-based reform in both medical and legal systems.Perfect for: True crime enthusiasts, legal professionals, medical practitioners, advocates for criminal justice reform, and anyone concerned about the intersection of science and justice.About Our GuestKeith Findley is a retired law professor, co-founder of the Wisconsin Innocence Project, and nationally recognized authority on wrongful convictions and forensic science. His pioneering work has helped exonerate numerous individuals convicted on flawed scientific evidence and has been instrumental in reforming forensic practices nationwide.What You'll Learn✓ The shocking origins of shaken baby syndrome and how it became medical "fact" ✓ Why cognitive bias and groupthink plague child abuse diagnoses ✓ How the American Academy of Pediatrics shaped—and potentially misled—medical consensus ✓ The emerging science that contradicts decades of accepted medical wisdom ✓ Why wrongful convictions continue despite mounting scientific evidence ✓ The critical need for multidisciplinary, evidence-based approaches in forensic medicine ✓ What needs to change in our legal system to prevent future injusticesKey Timestamps00:00 Introduction to Keith Findley and His Work 03:34 The Origins of Doubt in Shaken Baby Syndrome 06:20 The Evolution of Medical Understanding of SBS 09:17 The Role of the American Academy of Pediatrics 12:31 The Impact of New Scientific Research 15:13 Child Abuse Pediatricians and Their Authority 18:12 Cognitive Biases in Medical Diagnoses 21:16 The Need for Multidisciplinary Approaches 24:08 Challenges in the Legal System Regarding SBS 26:46 The Future of Shaken Baby Syndrome Research 37:38 The Debate on Scientific Rigor in Child Abuse LiteratureWhy This MattersThousands of caregivers have been convicted based on shaken baby syndrome diagnoses—many serving life sentences. As scientific understanding evolves, we're discovering that what was once considered irrefutable medical evidence may be fundamentally flawed. This episode sheds light on a crisis at the intersection of medicine, law, and justice that affects us all.Related Topics#ShakenBabySyndrome #WrongfulConvictions #ForensicScience #CriminalJusticeReform #MedicalBias #ScientificControversy #ChildAbuseDiagnosis #InnocenceProject #LegalReform #JunkScience #TrueCrime #JusticeReform📧 Contact us: unshakentruth76@gmail 🌐 Website: www.unshakentruth.com🔔 Photo credits: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence ProjectFamily of Robert RobersonDallas Morning NewsD MagazineWall Street JournalRep. John BucyMusic Credits: TYLXP8OKYKWE2LTK 5IX02NLL8KHJEJNT
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Brian Wharton Part 2
Unshaken Truth: The Detective Who Changed His Mind🎯 What You'll Learn in This EpisodeReverend Brian Wharton was the lead detective who helped convict Robert Roberson in a shaken baby syndrome case. Now, he's fighting to save Roberson's life—because he knows he got it wrong. The former law enforcement officer turned pastor reveals what made him realize an innocent man sits on death row. This is a story of courage, redemption, and the urgent need to fix a broken system before it's too late.In this episode, Reverend Wharton exposes:✅ How he became the lead detective in the Robert Roberson case – The investigation that seemed straightforward at the time ✅ The flawed shaken baby syndrome science that convinced him – Why the medical evidence he trusted was fundamentally wrong ✅ The moment everything changed – When and why he realized Robert Roberson is innocent ✅ The devastating role of child abuse pediatricians – How medical testimony can override facts and create false certainty ✅ What it takes to admit you were wrong – The personal and professional cost of standing up for truth ✅ How we can prevent future tragedies – Real reforms needed before another innocent person is executed⏱️ Episode Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: The Detective Who Became an Advocate 00:00 – Flawed Science and Shaken Baby Syndrome: How Medical Myths Sent Robert Roberson to Death Row 10:33 – The Role of Child Abuse Pediatricians: When Medical Certainty Overrides Evidence 13:35 – Preventing Future Miscarriages of Justice: Lessons from the Roberson Case 23:06 – Closing Thoughts and Prayer: Hope, Redemption, and the Fight to Save a Life👤 About Our GuestReverend Brian Wharton is a former law enforcement officer, pastor, and justice reform advocate. As the lead detective in the Robert Roberson case, he played a key role in Roberson's conviction for shaken baby syndrome. After learning that the science behind the conviction was fundamentally flawed, Wharton made the extraordinary decision to publicly admit his mistake and fight for Roberson's exoneration.His transformation from the detective who built the case to the advocate fighting to overturn it represents one of the most remarkable examples of moral courage in modern criminal justice. 🚨 Why This Episode MattersRobert Roberson remains on death row in Texas, convicted based on shaken baby syndrome evidence that has since been discredited. The lead detective who investigated the case now believes Roberson is innocent. This isn't just a story about one case—it's about how many other innocent people are behind bars because of outdated science and a system resistant to admitting mistakes.www.unshakentruth.comPhoto credits: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence ProjectFamily of Robert RobersonDallas Morning NewsD MagazineWall Street JournalRep. John BucyMusic Credits: TYLXP8OKYKWE2LTK 5IX02NLL8KHJEJNT
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Brian Wharton Part 1
Content Type: InterviewPrimary Goal: EducationalSummary: This episode of Unshaken Truth Podcast explores the wrongful conviction of Robert Roberson stemming from the debunked Shaken Baby Syndrome hypothesis, featuring Reverend Brian Wharton, a former law enforcement officer turned pastor, who shares his journey from police work to faith and justice reform. Discover insights into forensic misjudgments, the importance of understanding autism in legal cases, and the power of forgiveness and integrity.Keywords: Wrongful Convictions, Shaken Baby Syndrome, Forensic Science, Autism in Law, Justice Reform, Faith and Justice, Legal System Flaws, Exoneration, Criminal Justice, Ethical Law EnforcementKey TopicsWrongful convictions and forensic errorsThe impact of debunked Shaken Baby Syndrome hypothesisThe role of autism diagnosis in legal casesThe journey from law enforcement to pastoral workThe importance of integrity and forgiveness in justiceGuest Name: Reverend Brian WhartontitlesUnshaken Truth: Exposing the Shaken Baby Myth and Justice ReformFrom Law Enforcement to Faith: A Journey of Justice and ForgivenessSound Bites"His grace, his mercy offered to me.""The level of integrity that that shows.""Robert loves to know everyone's birthday."Chapters00:00Introduction to the Shaken Baby Myth06:04The Robert Robertson Case Overview08:23Investigating Medical History and Shaken Baby Syndrome12:12Testifying in Court and Initial Beliefs15:12Changing Perspectives on Guilt16:37Forgiveness and Integrity in Law Enforcement19:30Understanding Autism in the Context of the Casewww.unshakentruth.comContact Unshaken Truth: [email protected] credits: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence ProjectFamily of Robert Roberson Dallas Morning NewsD Magazine Wall Street JournalRep. John BucyMusic Credits: TYLXP8OKYKWE2LTK 5IX02NLL8KHJEJNT
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Justice
Justice🐕 This is Justice - and his story will break your heart and open your eyes.After being falsely accused of shaken baby syndrome, I spent 10 years fighting to clear my name. 10 years labeled as a child abuser. 10 years living a nightmare I didn't create. Through it all, my dog Justice reminded me what true justice really means.This video shares my story and shines a light on the broken system that destroys innocent families through flawed science and rushed judgments. Even worse - Robert Robertson sits on death row in Texas, also falsely accused of shaken baby syndrome. He could be executed for a crime that never happened.It's time for the UNSHAKEN TRUTH.🔔 SUBSCRIBE to join the fight for real justice and help amplify the voices of the wrongfully accused.👍 LIKE this video if you believe in protecting the innocent.💬 COMMENT your thoughts below - have you or someone you know been impacted by false accusations?📢 SHARE this video to spread awareness about wrongful convictions and flawed forensic science. 🎯 WHAT YOU CAN DO:1️⃣ Subscribe to the Unshaken Truth Podcast2️⃣ Learn about Robert Robertson's case - a man on death row for a crime that never happened3️⃣ If you work in medical, legal, or law enforcement fields - question the science and demand better standards🔗 IMPORTANT LINKS:• Unshaken Truth Podcast: www.unshakentruth.com ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS:0:00 - Meet Justice0:15 - My Story: 10 Years of False Accusations0:45 - The Broken System: When Doctors Rush to Judgment1:10 - The Responsibility of Prosecutors & Law Enforcement1:25 - Robert Robertson: On Death Row for a Crime That Never Happened1:45 - Why This Podcast Exists2:00 - What You Can Do Right Now2:30 - Real Justice is Worth Fighting For📝 SHOW NOTES:Key Topics Covered:• Personal story of false accusation of shaken baby syndrome• 10-year fight for exoneration• The role of child abuse pediatricians in wrongful convictions• Flawed forensic science and rushed judgments• Prosecutorial responsibility and rubber-stamping expert opinions• Robert Robertson's death row case in Texas• The mission of the Unshaken Truth podcast• How medical professionals, law enforcement, and legal workers can demand better standardsImportant Cases Mentioned:• Robert Robertson - Currently on death row in Texas, falsely accused of shaken baby syndromeCritical Issues Discussed:• Shaken baby syndrome is flawed science• The "first do no harm" medical oath and its violation• The weaponization of medical credentials• The destruction of innocent families• The need for thorough investigation vs. accepting expert opinions as gospel• The importance of questioning and protecting the innocentCall to Action:1. Subscribe to and share the Unshaken Truth podcast2. Research Robert Robertson's case3. Question the science and demand better standards 📧 CONTACT:For speaking engagements, interviews, or story submissions:Email: [email protected]#UnshakenTruth #WrongfulConviction #Justice #ShakenBabySyndrome #RobertRobertson #Innocence #CriminalJusticeReform #FalseAccusation #TrueCrime #JusticeReform #InnocenceProject #DeathRow #TexasDeathRow #ForensicScience #TrueCrimePodcastphoto credit: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence Project. Rep. John BucyMusic Credit: JM3XWAP2SO8CQSRH
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Episode 3 Trailer Brian Wharton
Unshaken Truth Podcast: Detective Brian Wharton Shares Insight into the Robert Robertson CaseDiscover the compelling story behind the Robert Robertson case through the eyes of retired detective Brian Wharton. In this episode, we explore the investigative journey, key revelations, and the wider implications of the case—shedding light on potential miscarriages of justice and insights into child abuse investigations.Key topics:The timeline of the Robert Robertson investigation and detective Wharton’s involvementHow new evidence could have altered the case’s trajectoryThe controversy surrounding shaken baby syndrome allegationsThe role of medical professionals and evidence in wrongful convictionsBroader issues in child abuse cases and investigative challengesInsights into forensic and investigative processes from Brian WhartonThe impact of public and legal perceptions on justice outcomesResources & Links:www.unshakentruth.comUnshaken Truth PodcastApple PodcastsSpotifyUnshaken Truth YouTube ChannelMusic credit: FKCOMDOS8XYRFBQWphoto credit: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence Project. Photo of Brian Wharton from Brian Wharton.
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John Grisham Part 2
Summary: In this episode hosts Josh Burns and Andrew Roark continue their conversation with best selling author John Grisham and explore the flaws in the criminal justice system, focusing on wrongful convictions caused by junk science like shaken baby syndrome, and discusses reforms needed to prevent future injustices. Guest expert shares insights on cases, legal reforms, and the importance of scientific integrity.Keywords: wrongful convictions, junk science, shaken baby syndrome, criminal justice reform, exoneration, forensic science, legal system, wrongful death casesKey Topics:Wrongful convictions and the role of junk scienceWhat the public should know about the Robert Roberson caseLegal reforms and the importance of scientific standards in forensic evidenceThe impact of jailhouse snitches, false confessions, and eyewitness misidentificationGuest Name: John GrishamUnshaken Truth: Exposing Junk Science in Wrongful ConvictionsHow Flawed Science Sends Innocent People to Death RowSound Bites"Robert Robertson's case is a tragic example.""Most jurors want to see the full story.""Hope for legal reforms and exonerations."Chapters00:00 Patterns in Wrongful Convictions08:45 The Impact of False Confessions10:40 The Flaws in the Justice System12:37 Understanding Robert Roberson's Case14:24 Questions Surrounding Shaken Baby Theory15:52 The Future of Robert's Case18:55 Optimism and Pessimism in Texas Justice20:38 Necessary Changes in the Legal Systemphoto credit: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence ProjectFamily of Robert RobersonDallas Morning NewsD MagazineWall Street JournalRep. John BucyMusic Credits: 0D1XPG8GAFZJ7SHN WKNDWZC7ZNV7CCYQ BLQZNNNF7A8Z9GER
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John Grisham Part 1
Unshaken Truth: John Grisham Part 1 Revealing the Flaws of Junk Science and Wrongful ConvictionsIn this episode of Unshaken Truth, hosts Josh Burns and Andrew Rourke talk with best selling Author John Grisham about wrongful convictions tied to debunked science like Shaken Baby Syndrome. They explore how flawed medical myths led to injustices, the fight for justice, and how faith and perseverance provide hope.Key TopicsPersonal journeys of Josh and Andrew, exonerated from wrongful child abuse convictionsThe dangers of junk science like Shaken Baby Syndrome in wrongful convictionsRobert Robertson's case: a tragic example of misused forensic evidence leading to a death sentenceHow high-profile figures like John Grisham are advocating against wrongful convictionsThe role of faith, forgiveness, and resilience in overcoming wrongful imprisonmentThe systemic challenges in overturning wrongful convictions and reforms neededThe importance of prosecutors having the courage to admit mistakes and undo wrongful convictionsTimestamps00:00 - Introduction: wrongful convictions, junk science, and our stories02:06 - Robert Robertson’s case: wrongful conviction based on shaken baby syndrome03:36 - John Grisham’s involvement and advocacy for justice reform04:08 - Meeting Robert Robertson on death row and his autism diagnosis05:38 - The influence of faith and forgiveness among exonerees09:29 - Flaws in trial procedures and prosecutorial misconduct12:55 - The difficulty in overturning wrongful convictions and systemic obstacles16:07 - The story of Ronald Keith Williamson’s wrongful death row exoneration18:13 - Awareness of the thousands of innocent people in prison; our advocacy efforts20:23 - The story of Tommy Ward: a wrongful conviction in Ada, Oklahoma22:03 - The resilience and peace of exonerees despite injustices23:38 - Why wrongful convictions are so challenging to overturn26:01 - Closing: ongoing efforts and resources, next episode previewResources & Linkswww.unshakentruth.comMusic credits: OMRDM06SFWGKD9FJ SPZKCNTRJBNSTH55photo credit: Photo of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence ProjectFamily of Robert Roberson Dallas Morning News D Magazine Wall Street Journal Rep. John Bucy
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Meet the host: Josh Burns Story Part 2
From Darkness to Exoneration: A Journey Through Justice and RedemptionIn this powerful episode, Josh Burns shares his harrowing experience of wrongful conviction, legal battles, and ultimate exoneration. His story highlights the injustices within the justice system and the resilience needed to fight for truth and justice.Key TopicsThe long and intense process of criminal pretrial discovery, including fighting for hospital records and battling hospital refusalsHow the emotional argument and circumstantial evidence influenced the jury's guilty verdictThe emotional and psychological toll of wrongful conviction, including PTSD and night terrorsThe challenges of incarceration, including solitary confinement and media coverageThe importance of legal support, pro bono efforts, and the role of the University of Michigan Innocence ClinicThe journey to exoneration after seven years, and the role of the Michigan Attorney General's Conviction Integrity UnitReunification with his daughter after nearly two years apart and the lasting impact of lost timeLessons learned: the need for systemic reform in the justice and medical systemsCall to action: fighting for the innocent and advocating for change to prevent future injusticesTimestamps00:00 - The chaos of fighting hospital records during criminal discovery00:26 - Internal emails that questioned the shaken baby syndrome diagnosis00:53 - The hospital's silence about findings that challenged the narrative01:22 - The legal battle to obtain complete medical records02:12 - The judge's involvement and the hospital's contempt of court03:08 - Expert witnesses testify against shaken baby syndrome diagnosis03:38 - The jury's guilty verdict afterDays of deliberation04:07 - The influence of emotional arguments over scientific evidence04:50 - The impact of the guilty verdict on Josh’s mental state and faith in the system05:05 - Facing incarceration and the challenges of legal harassment06:05 - Contact with law enforcement and attempts to wear ankle monitoring07:22 - The support system that sustained Josh during legal battles08:11 - The experience of sentencing and support from supporters at court09:11 - Life inside county jail and solitary confinement10:07 - The struggle to make phone calls and stay connected with family11:28 - The involvement of the University of Michigan Innocence Clinic12:10 - The enormous costs of legal defense and the disparity in resources13:37 - The emotional victories over science in courtrooms14:13 - The need for legal reform and upcoming efforts to change laws15:15 - The emotional toll of wrongful conviction and separation from family17:11 - Reuniting with his daughter after nearly two years apart18:01 - The trauma of losing time and the lasting effects of government overreach19:00 - The process of family reunification and adjusting back to normal life20:09 - PTSD, night terrors, and the struggle to reintegrate21:40 - The fight to overturn wrongful convictions and the role of the Conviction Integrity Unit22:17 - The joyous moment of declaring innocence and clearing his name23:29 - Life after exoneration: rebuilding relationships and new purpose24:13 - Why sharing these stories matters and fighting for justice for others25:26 - The importance of awareness and the fight to prevent wrongful accusations26:57 - Closing thoughts on standing up for the voiceless and systemic reformwww.unshakentruth.com
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Meet the host: Josh Burns Story Part 1
Exposing the Shaken Baby Myth: Josh Burns' Journey to ExonerationThis episode shares the compelling story of Josh Burns, a man falsely accused of shaken baby syndrome and wrongful conviction. Through his experience, we explore the pitfalls of medical misdiagnosis, systemic flaws in child protective services, and the importance of awareness for parents and caregivers in this episode:Josh recounts the traumatic events leading up to his daughter's hospitalizations and diagnosisThe misinterpretation of birth trauma versus abuse and its impact on his caseHow retinal hemorrhages and subdural hematomas can result from medical procedures and birth complicationsThe hospital's role, legal battles, and the push for justiceThe psychological toll of being accused, arrested, and separated from his familyThe importance of parental awareness of medical and legal rights in child abuse casesStrategies for recognizing medical misdiagnosis and advocating for innocent parentsResources for parents navigating complex child medical and legal situationsTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction to Josh Burns' story and wrongful conviction 00:22 - Josh's background and the events leading to his daughter's birth 00:54 - Details of the traumatic birth and initial hospital stay 01:41 - The accidental fall and symptoms that prompted medical concern 02:25 - The progression of vomiting, hospital visits, and ambulance ride 03:14 - The ambulance experience and emotional distress 04:08 - Hospitalization, tests, and discovery of retinal hemorrhages 04:55 - The initial accusations of abuse and hospital's role 06:53 - How the medical staff dismissed birth trauma explanations 09:08 - The diagnosis of retinal hemorrhages and suspicion of abuse 09:37 - The impact of being treated as criminals and the involvement of child protective services 11:15 - Interrogation by CPS and law enforcement, and parental helplessness 13:34 - The realization that birth trauma can mimic abuse signs 14:04 - The court process, parental rights’ termination 15:22 - The arrest of Josh and the legal battles that followed 16:08 - The trauma of losing custody and separation from his daughter 17:10 - The emotional toll and plea for awareness 19:22 - The importance of medical literacy and parental advocacy 20:10 - The "nuclear option" and hospital corporatism in abuse accusations 21:22 - Court proceedings: civil vs. criminal trials, verdicts, and family reunification 25:50 - Moving out of the home upon daughter's return and emotional reflection 26:19 - The aftermath and lessons learned Resources & Links:www.unshakentruth.comwww.tornfamily.com Connect with Josh Burns:www.unshakentruth.comunshakentruth76@gmail Music Credits: PB9JA1YI0EVKIZQE 87ZBLE2QPOBV6ZWJ KMNSVHFB0285DL2E ADIWJZ4AWHFZRY1SPhoto credit: Photos of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence Project.
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Meet the host: Andrew Roark's Story Part 2
From Injustice to Freedom: The Story of Redemption and ResilienceIn this episode, Andrew Roark shares his powerful journey from wrongful imprisonment to exoneration, detailing the emotional and physical toll of incarceration, the resilience required to rebuild life, and the importance of advocacy for others trapped behind bars. Key Topics:The detailed experience of prison life, from county jail to specialized units, including programming and work assignmentsThe impact of wrongful conviction and the long process of legal battles for exonerationThe emotional toll of imprisonment, including PTSD, trust issues, and rebuilding after releaseUnexpected talent and craftsmanship locked behind bars, highlighting the skill of inmate artisansThe moment of revelation: hearing about exoneration after 27+ years and the subsequent reintegration into societyNavigating the complicated process of legal appeals, ineffective counsel, and waiting for justiceThe role of family, especially his wife, in healing and moving forwardAdvocating for others still waiting for justice and sharing lessons learnedTimestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: A journey through wrongful imprisonment and hope 00:25 - Early prison experience: County jail to government center 01:00 - Life in the holiday unit and Brasoria prison 02:10 - Transfer to the Feguson unit and gang protocol 03:25 - Building trust and finding purpose through work and education 04:50 - Talents behind bars: Leatherworking and craftsmanship 06:15 - Coming home: The emotional moment of release 08:00 - The long legal battle: Ineffective counsel and appeals 09:30 - The moment of exoneration: Hearing actual innocence 11:00 - Reconnection with family and society after 27 years 12:30 - Reflecting on lost time and rebuilding life 14:00 - The significance of truth and justice in healing 15:30 - The role of faith and community support 17:00 - Sharing the story to help others and prevent future injustices.Photo credit: Photos of Robert Roberson by Iiana Panich-Linsman for The Innocence ProjectMusic credits: MJQFFSBDV90X2H6Y ED6JLRTHBQGZBUNW 5OKLVSXSE5GHVWOP A1I3PCWIKXFUREJHNote: The episode highlights the importance of perseverance, faith, and advocacy in transforming wrongful suffering into a catalyst for change.
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Meet the host: Andrew Roark's Story Part 1
Summary: This compelling interview explores the life-changing journey of Andrew Roark wrongfully convicted of a child injury, highlighting the flaws in the medical and legal systems, the emotional toll, and the eventual exoneration after 27 years. Discover insights into the challenges of wrongful convictions, the importance of scientific integrity, and the resilience needed to rebuild life after injustice.Keywords: wrongful conviction, shaken baby syndrome, medical science, legal system, exoneration, justice, child injury, forensic science, prison life, legal reformKey TopicsFlaws in shaken baby syndrome and medical scienceLegal system challenges and ineffective counselThe emotional and psychological toll of wrongful imprisonmentGuest Andrew Roark ExonereeKey FrameworksJunk Science vs. Peer-Reviewed ScienceLegal System ReformAction ItemsAdvocate for scientific integrity in medical and legal casesSupport organizations working to exonerate wrongfully convicted individualsEducate juries and legal professionals on forensic science limitationstitles27 Years of Wrongful Imprisonment: A Personal Journey to JusticeUncovering the Flaws in Shaken Baby Syndrome ScienceSound Bites"It's a helpless feeling.""I knew I didn't do anything."Chapters00:00Introduction to Andrew's Story00:36Life Before Conviction00:58The Turning Point: A Fateful Day12:02Arrested16:41The Trial24:07SentencingMusic credits: RQAA9BE8JUMXCEVZ 1NXZLPFOMGZYTFSO GKO4ISYCHCUZZQC0
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Our purpose in advocacy
The conversation begins with a discussion about finding purpose in adversity and the impact of personal experiences on helping others. It then transitions to the motivation to help others, especially in the context of impacting future generations.TakeawaysSurviving to help othersImpact on childrenChapters00:00 Purpose in Adversity
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Exonerated After 27 Years
The conversation covers the experience of a wrongful conviction, legal consultation, exoneration, emotional reaction, release, and reunion after years of wrongful imprisonment. It highlights the emotional impact of the justice system and the relief of being exonerated.TakeawaysWrongful convictionJustice servedChapters00:00 Wrongful Conviction and Legal ConsultationHQZ4AG5AELPML3SB
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Fighting For Those Who Can't
The conversation delves into the topic of presumption of guilt in court cases and the importance of fighting for the innocent. Josh Burns and Andrew Roark share their personal experiences and the impact it has had on their perspectives and actions.TakeawaysPresumption of guilt in court casesFighting for the innocentChapters00:00 Presumption of Guilt
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
What happened to us can happen to anyone. In a shocking number of cases, including ours, medical professionals and law enforcement have rushed to judgment when confronted with an infant or toddler’s apparent injury or, worse, sudden death. They stop looking for what really happened, an illness or underlying medical condition, instead calling it abuse based on nothing more than a flawed hypothesis. Too many families’ lives have been ripped apart because of this junk science; we want to bring attention to this persistent injustice. Josh Burns and Andrew Roark were both falsely accused of child abuse based on the debunked “Shaken Baby Syndrome” hypothesis. Both men were exonerated in the same week of November 2024. Since then, Josh and Andrew have been actively advocating for others falsely accused under this flawed, non-scientific theory. Josh testified before the Texas House of Representatives Criminal Jurisprudence Committee on behalf of Robert Roberson, a Texas man on
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